Grading the Bills 2024 draft -- Will Beane trade for WR after only taking 1 in the draft?
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- Matt Parrino and Ryan Talbot give their final thoughts on the Bills' 2024 draft class. Did the Bills get everything they needed to do, and what holes remain on the roster? Brandon Beane spoke specifically about the receiver position and whether he'd consider a trade or a big-time target.
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Look, I love the picks, especially as human beings, but we've got the stud QB that we waited 2 decades to get on his 7th season. This was the best WR class in years, there's hardly any cap space left, you just lost Diggs AND Davis, and you don't even try to go up to get a top one, you don't double dip early, you don't even double dip at all??? Bills want to win a SB, let me ask you something then, how many top 10 players do the Bills have right now? 2? 3?
Couldn't have said it better myself
@Grobguyer sorry, but you're wrong
May be planning on trading for wide receiver later ??? 🤫
@@archcunningham5579 That was my initial thought, that they would somehow find the cap space to go get a top vet, but Beane said yesterday that that would absolutely would not happen. A few minutes ago they got WR Quintez Cephus, who is coming off a year suspension for gambling.
They don’t have the money to do it right now, which is why they cut so many and brought in youth. This year is about resetting the leadership core in the locker room, getting younger and cheaper. Next year they’ll be able to be more aggressive assuming these moves are successful.
I love the Coleman pick. He is freakish athlete and a human highlight. 4" taller & 20 more pounds then Diva Diggs and best of all NO EGO. Smart pick.
You only mention the positives but not the negatives!! He is a LOT SLOWER than Diggs! Another terrible draft by the Beane picker.
He has an ego trust me you will see.
@@timd4789you need an ego as a receiver to become great so yes he better have some swag
If you are in the NFL and you don't have an ego, then you shouldn't be in the NFL. You people that call him a diva must be from the everyone gets a trophy generation. 😂
@jasonwalter8636 These people that complain about Diggs being a diva are weak minded and must have sucked at sports. The last man picked in gym class 😂
Dj Moore won me my fantasy league last year. Pollard the year before. Im telling you, at least fantasy wise, Samuel is going to be extremely undervalued
If we’re so infatuated with speed why are we not loving KJ Hamler a 4.27 guy??
The wide receiver room is full. The running back room is stacked. The linebackers are improved. We got a top notch center. It's all good.
I was surprised and disappointed we didn't use some of the extra later picks go up and get Walker or one of the others in that range.
I’m ok with Carter pick. Low inventory on quality DT in league. Carter was the best defensive player on dukes defense…big drop off after him for 3 tech
We have 2 handy backs we can take some pressure off the receivers..and they can both catch but not throw to cook near the EZ
How did sherfield in Hardy work out for them they keep bringing in these tier 3 and 4 receivers thinking they can reach the super bowl with trash
Couldn’t reach it with Diggs and he’s better than anyone KC has the last 2 seasons like what? 😂🤣
Nah man, Bills fans are super doomers. Everything is the worst thing that has ever happened. Every player we take is going to suck. Beane and McDermott are the worst coach/gm in the world. It's so exhausting.
Considering the WR talent they passed on, this is potentially the worst draft in history. You go through all that to trade back and you don't even get the top safety or a safety that at least matches your style of play (insert Kaiir Elam flashback). The later picks show some promise, especially the C from Georgia, but my god, the biggest crop of WR talent ever drops into your lap just at the moment you need it, and you draft one dude who doesn't run routes, can't separate, and is a project you could have gotten in the third or fourth round. Can't go higher than a D on this complete hack job.
What did Marv once say, when you start listening to the fans you end up sitting with them. Watching the Bills since Beane and McDermott got here was Sean knows DB's I am not concerned one iotta on that pick and add to that they were willing to move up, case closed.
guys it's a bit naive to be preaching hope for no real reason. The part you lost me was saying worthy scoring a touchdown be balanced by a 3rd round depth dt that honestly we might have draft anyways early in the 4th making a hypothetical sack. I actually do like the dt we picked up as well as a few other players we picked up but realistically the lower in the draft we go the less impact at least in the immediate sense they will make. Especially with McD seeming to have a freshman bias on players only letting them get true chance to start in year 2. I'm fine with hoping for the best but at the same time there is being an informed fan and being a homer claiming they will go to the super bowl in years they won't make the playoffs (not saying that is this year at all more describing the clueless fan type)
I am a hr guy and bean did the right thing. Look at the production of the team the last 8 games? They didn’t need diggs and they did awesome. Now we have more experienced players from last year with these new players spells success. Please compare the chiefs and the packers wide outs. They didn’t have a true number 1. I rather have 3-4 good receivers who produce instead of a super x receiver who doesn’t produce when we needed him to. A on the draft! Don’t be surprised if bean finds a way to pick up Brandon A from Sf! He likes to have mentors guide the rookies.
9:55 bills have a bottom 5 WR room we won’t have 1 1k WR
21:41 bills fans can only have blind hope and homerism instead of being real and being criticized for being negative
I actually loved most of the Bills draft. Keon Coleman is the one I'm most skeptical about, but hopefully he proves me wrong.
😂😂😂 I don't know about that one. I don't doubt him but he just really does jump balls and that's it. I don't understand the pick. Smdh
None of u are gms so it's all blah,blah
I think Brandon Beane has another plan. There were so many needs to fill, and getting another receiver didn't happen because, IF we didn't spend the draft capital necessary to move into the Top 9 picks to get one of the top 3 receivers of the draft, I think:
1) The Bills #1 receiver might NOT YET be on the team.
2) The Bills will either trade for a veteran #1 receiver (to bring Keon Coleman along slowly), OR pick one up as a free agent signing on a 1 year veteran minimum salary OR pick up a good veteran WR who failed to survive final cut-down
3) A few less prominent players already on the Bills roster are READY to step up thereby enabling more pass yardage accumulation "by committee."
Big mistake not drafting Malik Washington by Beane. Miami got him he's gonna be real good they got a steal in the 6th
NO. The fans are NOT upset. We KNOW it is the podcasters ..that are WDE RECEIVER OR BUST. At the end of the year, i DO NOT want to be looking at a highlight reel of circus catches but miss the playoffs because we cant stop anyone in the 4th quarter..
Speak for yourself..the fans dont want a fantasy roster...we actually want to win..i am SO AGGRAVATED BY PODCASTERS telling us the fans are gonna burn the city if we dont trade the farm for marvin harrison jr.
Stop watching podcasts then Jesus 😂😂😂😂😂
One of the better ways to grade this draft is to see what happens five years down the road. Not only do I want to win, I want to see us finally get over that KC hurdle to the Super Bowl... and finally win that.
I’m somewhat happy with the Coleman pick, I know Beane has a method to his madness, but I still think we’re lacking.
I can't find any presser with Dequan Hardy...odd...also no pic of him getting the call...
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Kincaid -90 rec
Samuel - 60
Coleman - 50
Shakir - 50
Cook - 30
Knox 30
Allen had 385 completions last yr… not missing too much for everyone else.. this doesnt seem crazy
Who cares what fans think. This was a GREAT draft this year. The Bills have several unproven WR's that are hungry and we just need one to show promise. Now we have Coleman, Shakir, Samuel, Knox, Kincaid, Cook, Ray Davis and the other guys I referenced. If you people don't think Josh can do ALOT with that I dont know what to tell you.
Somebody said Cole Bishop is not a good fit lol?!
Day 3 was perfect. We needed a power back like Davis. The Bills are building a power offense with 12 personnel and OL that are powerful run blockers.
Fact: Every last person now claiming to be happy that the Bills traded away their 1st round pick, spent months gleefully speculating on who the Bills' 1st round pick would be.
Bills want to get more physical on offense. Coleman checks that box. Worthy would fail on that critrua.
Chiefs wanted speed. Worthy checks that box and Coleman dies not.
Its not apples to apples. Its players and fit in schemes and how teams want to change ir improve.
If Bills fans weren’t thrilled (and I was ecstatic) with Ray Davis…they will be. He might have been my favorite pick of the day value wise. He was a stud at Kentucky. I was expecting a WR at that spot or with our third rounder but I was ecstatic with Dwayne Carter as well as Ray Davis to me the Bills get a B plus draft imo. I think they had a sneaky good draft. The C from Georgia was again such great value and I believe he’ll be a starter for many years to come, he has that potential
Kincaid isn't a YAC guy. For that reason, a 1st Round pick was a little too expensive i think.
Do not compare Shavers to 2 and early 3 round receivers. That’s unfair to the prospects that were just drafted… common, lazy.
Everybody's complaining about the lack of talent. Ther've been far lesser rosters that have gone further than what we've produced the last seven years.... We have more than enough talent between receivers, Tight ends, and pass catching RB backs. Not every team's going to have 2 star 1a/b receivers on it. You could count on one hand in the entire league the teams that have that. This year comes down to coaching, plain and simple. Defense needs to close it out when we get to the playoffs, And the offense needs to be well rounded and fundamentally sound. McD and the coordinators need to step up.
This is part 1 of the Bills rebuild, part 2 comes next offseason. Forget the Chiefs because its unlikely the Bills will be good enough to beat them next season. They might still be good enough to make the playoffs, but this is a rebuild on the fly that is likely targeting 2025.
Well said Ryan. The Bills don't make draft picks on what the fans want. They have their grades. They have their board and they follow it.
I wish they would have double dipped at receiver. Troy Franklin fell in the draft and then Malik Washington fell a little bit. I wish they would have got one of them but, if they didn't have a good enough grade on them in the spots they picked then so be it. Just got to trust the process.
19:33 when the bills start 1-4 and Coleman has 11 catches and 89 yards all of you are gonna be bitching and moaning
KJ Hamler? Beane must've really gave you guys the script for tonight 😂
I like the picks. We have to be patient to see what they're like.
It's unfortunate so many bills fans are complaining. You people are spoiled, and some of you are just plain stupid. Give the process a chance. The Bills will be a top team again this year.
I think Beane did a fine job with the draft. I also think someone in the Bills IT department needs to block all phone calls from a Kansas City area code during the draft... 🤔
All you posters talking about trading for Ayuk, we don't have the cap room for him or any other top of the line WR. We only have 3 million in cap space.
Davis has great vision..lovely highlight reel..that is worth an extra yard of pace
49:08 it’s amazing how ppl
Now don’t want a WR1 that gets a lot of targets but when we had diggs yall were happy as a clam
I think we were happy to have him but not happy that he HAD to be fed the ball to keep him happy.
I wanted us to get Troy Franklin once he fell. That would have been a nice double dip, one of them is likely to hit
You should tell people to use the free tria for text durring otas so they know they want it for training camp
What had this team done to deserve anything other than pessimism?
20:35 not one person in the bills RUclips space EVER talked about Carter let’s not act like he’s the guy we wanted
Jeremiah had him as the 3rd best DT in the draft…getting him in the 3rd round was smart and means at that pick Beane had him as BPA. BTW…. Love the alternate ending of the KC game where Carter sacks Mahomes to end the game
@@buffalobills4life122 well I’m gonna have to disagree he wasn’t the 3rd best DT or BPA he may have been the best DT left at the time but not BPA and again I like Carter just don’t want ppl to pretend they wanted him all along
17:25 most leading question 🤣🤣 I love it
Dolphins , 9ers , bengals , cowboys , eagles , titans , jags , Texans should I keep going ? 48:19
The bills have both the best, and the worst fan base in the league haha
Bottom 5 WR room in the league but, we got better on defense.
Going back to the bills in the 2nd half against KC, McDermott has poyer drop down and cover Kelce. They do have their preference but McDermott is comfortable making adjustments in game
Disappointed they didn’t go up and get another receiver
They didn't even need to trade up; Franklin and Baker were still there in the 4th round
Head scratcher to me. They better have this right. I guess we will see.
I thank the wr's room has potential
You guys could start to get a lot of UK fans now.
Is ISABELLA still with us?
Hear me out, this was a solid draft for the Bills, finally the organization drafted players in positions they needed, I believe the bills 5th buffet will be considered a huge success in the future, curve ball was the RB, but at least he's what the Bills needed, also I agree with the fellows, they absolutely should've drafted 2 WR but all in all these good picks
Traded quality for quantity
@@davidsoria7701definitely not
After Ruggs and Rice, Bills better keep Coleman away from fast cars.
29:48 McGovern had his best season as a pro at Lg last year same with Dawkins keep that chemistry and only change 1 position
Happy with the draft overall.. just wish we'd have doubled down and got Franklin. Coleman and Franklin on the same offense would have been potential gold.
7:15 cool beane follows his board has he ever thought that maybe just maybe he can be wrong at times ? lol and he needs to adjust his board ?
4:52 we just need to be real and not act like every single pick is elite and gonna be good the best picks were van pran and Jamal Soloman
This is gonna be a try hard year in preparation for the following season. We have the draft pics and the payroll available in '24. I think we'll be ok. There's still time to add quality
13:55 thank god there was no trade up takers for bishop it saved us capitol
I think the Bills are really setting things up for next years draft where you will probably make some big moves with extra draft picks and a better cap situation.
The WR room this year is the LB room of last year... bills knew what they had and were ready to play. They didn't freak out and listen to the media saying the WR room is weak. They new they had 1 opening, thry grabbed a WR with potential
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Hilarious you two slappys feel qualified to grade Bills draft…
I am hoping and expecting that this draft should be considered the first half of two drafts (this year and next) which will be seen in the future as a unit; retooling the roster.
I agree with Matt I think it is important to keep strengthening the future of the bills solid draft overall for me I think it is important to keep us in contention for yearly playoff runs
9:16 we aren’t in a position to go off of potential talent we need real talent
Booker went to the Bears at 144, which was the Bills pick that they traded back to the bears (Bates) for a 4th next year.
I think this is the best bills Draft class ever, 7 outta these guys will start in 2 to 3 years
Bishop does not make up for how horribly beane handled the WR room this offseason sorry. You can try and polish this turd all you want but they are not competing for a SB this year with this roster sorry
It seems like they went safe and cheap..
Can you cry more? Sorry
15:12 right like BTJ getting taken at 24
Keon had a great presser
Comedy gold. Love the guy.
I like to make pancakes for dinner .
Bean is wasting Josh Allen prime
Was Andy Reid of Chiefs wasting Mahomes years only #1 receiver he ever had was Tyreek Hill and they won 2 SBs after his departure ❤
I think the Bills had a very good draft and’s so do most experts.
I honestly thought they’d give Brendon Rice a shot
B+ draft in my view. Love Bishop and the DT. Concerned about Coleman, i would have taken McConkey at 33. But that is why I'm not the GM. I truly do trust Beane and McDermott. Go Bills
Josh wanted Coleman. Pay attention. We need a bigger athletic receiver and Coleman fits the bill and has more potential to become a star. Ladd is too similar to shakir and Samuel
Cause beane has drafted so many all pro WRs lol. He can't possibly be wrong about worthy and Coleman. SMH
It’s literally the 1st time he’s drafted a WR before day 3
Top end WR talent isn’t a regular szn issue when your QB is JA17. Who in this receiving group in the divisional round is getting separation for Allen when Bills are in the red zone with szn on the line in 4th qtr? We’re missing that and we have a new OC. Bills don’t even have enough roster spots for these players in season. Let it play out but this is now a playoff roster not a SB one as far as expectations
You guys are the best of the bills coverage. You can’t be serious about a 30 year old Mack Hollins and a Kj Hamler who has played 10 games the last 2 seasons. Call it what it is. We have major need at WR and they went back to back defense in then2nd and 3rd. Traded back to really take 4-5th round picks. And how can you not question beans draft picks? He’s drafted 2 1st team all pros (seasons). 2. in 8 drafts.
yea I agree completely in our wr room still being extremely lacking especially the more I look into Coleman experts saying he's more of a big slot on account of his lack of separation. It truly bothers me how little beane seems to value wrs especially considering how high the salaries for good ones is going. I feel like we needed to take a few swings this draft when we didnt get one of the top 4 guys and only wrs with consistent chance of being an actual number 1 wr. Now our best bet is to overpay a veteran hopefully on a short term prove it deal or trade for one we need to overpay to keep happy. It seems like we cleared all this cap space only to waste it on digga 31 mil cap hit and needing hopefully to pay his replacement. I just worry the plan is to have a so so year where we end up drafting in teens or high single digits putting all hopes into all the draft picks we seem to be stocking next year. I just don't trust beane's ability to.draft consistently good players. To often he fails to evauluate young talent properly (ie letting wyatt teller walk and drafting poorly at skill positions imo) or just being to inconsistent as he seems to have moved to taking as many chances as he can versus trying to identify specific prospects they want... maybe I'm wrong as I'm certainly hoping beane proves me wrong and somehow Coleman turns into an all pro X receiver and not a decent big slot wr. Just really lost a lot of faith in bills braintrust this offseason. If the plan is to take a half step back this year to properly compete for rest of Allen's career then have the balls to say it rather than trying to rob the fans who spend good money to watch what will be a very flawed team not expected to go far due to lack of weapons. I just hate that the only benefit we have of a defensive specialty head coach in McD putting out a respectable defense despite lack of superstars is wasted by always overdrafting defense...
Josh Allen has never been 1st team all pro. What a terrible Beane pick
Dude your spoiled. They were trash after Kelly and crew left forever. Now they are a successful franchise and your crying a river. Unrealistic fan.
Grow up baby
It's hard to draft 1st team all-pros when you're picking at the end of the round every year.
This draft is perplexing. Beane say you draft “best available” but now it’s drafting for need. Not a recipe for success. As always, the results will be judged in 3 years and their jobs are on the line just as the new stadium with higher ticket prices is scheduled to open.
Your an expert? Yah spoiled. Bills sucked for 20 plus years and now their a valid franchise and all you experts are crying. 1 team wins
@@rodneyjohnson5457 expert? Nope. On the couch just like you.
Far more issues with colemans games than worthy bud. Coleman route tree is so bad
He's a bust. I feel confident saying that. I'll eat a real dead crow if I'm wrong. And I'm a man of my word. I hate dead animals but I'm that certain. Now, if they made him a te, he'd be legit maybe. They laid an egg on this one. Now, if they trade for a legit long term number 1 not 28+ yrs old, then I'd be willing to lay off. But even then, that Coleman pick was eye raising. Bean has something lined up. I also believe that he had a different plan, he just wanted the player to fall instead of moving up. I think that could've been the Jacksonville wr. Btj. I think he saw kb in Coleman. It seems their trying to build a Carolina team 2.0 instead of just building a buffalo team. I think they did wonders for this team and brought a lot of entertaining fb to y'all city. But it may be time that your ownership says enough. He owns the sabs to, ain't it? That team is a bunch of gutterballs as well. No offense. I feel sorry for y'all because I have to admit, that city is the most loyalist of a fanbase you'll find in north America whether ppl want to admit that or not. Yall deserve way better man. It's a damn shame tbh.
Worthy is 160 pounds with stone hands, Coleman is huge with vice grips, going against weak small CBs this day and age. Leave the scouting to the scouts
@@rickc9783 he'll bulk up. That's not a big deal. You can always gain weight. I don't think you can make someone a better route runner. Maybe I'm wrong. Idk. Dude is still slow. I know you can't teach that.
This draft was not flashy. It addressed our needs. I am very happy with how it turned out.