The ghostly remains of Derwent Village revealed from under water
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- Опубликовано: 8 окт 2022
- This video is about Derwent reservoir. The reservoir is in Derbyshire. In the Pennine hills. The Derwent valley was flooded to create the reservoir and in flooding the valley the village of Derwent and Ashopton were submerged underwater. This was done in the 1930's. We find the remains of Derwent hall a former home to the nobility and finally a youth hostel opened by Edward VIII. The Yorkshire water authority had to build the reservoirs for the ever increasing demands for fresh water from the cities of leicester Nottingham and Sheffield. The Derwent dam is featured and was used by the dam busters as practice in the second world war. This is a story of Derbyshire history and lost sunken villages. Also the engineering that created reservoirs and how in times of drought they reveal their secrets
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Thanks to the youtube channel Manchester Mudlarks for the suggestion ruclips.net/channel/UCNKG1tbCsCVR93c8mkr_yjQ
I do enjoy a bit of Manchester Mudlarking
@@martin4787 me to 👍
I have a neat story. There was a 1971 flooded town where I live in Ohio USA, called New Burlington. The last resident to leave was a man who was born there and a fire in their home had been maintained since his mother went into labor with him over 80 years prior. The day the police helped move him to a nearby farm, they gathered the hot coals from his fire, brought it with him and started a new fire. Neat old story of a fire that's been going since the 1880s.
That’s incredible you should make a video about it. 😮
I love things like that
11:20, that's not a window, it's a fireplace, surely.
My dad and his family, and many cousins grew up nearby in Bradfield Dale and have stories to tell of the buildings in Derwent and even a couple of pieces of the Hall and Church in their house. My aunts and dad have stories to tell also of the Dam-busters practice raids and a 'fake' Sheffield that was built up on the moor to distract the expected German raids. Great times and lovely film you made up there.
I was thinking the same, you can see the internal angle of the way the fireplace cheeks would have been set.
Visited this place for years, never saw any of these (based on date 1959 was another dry year, so it must be a rare occasion), thanks for sharing the story.
Looking for someone posting this before I did it definitely looks more like a fireplace
See below for more.
Thank you so much for sharing your story. Your families history should be written down / told and I for one would be listening with open ears 😊🙏 A lot of our true history has been destroyed.
I believe its all to do with King Arthur the 1st and King Arthur the 2nd. Our true hidden history, Alan Wilson & Baram Blackett have with research and evidence proved that the history of Britain has been written out of the story and then re-fabricated and regurgitated.
So it would indeed be very interesting learning and hearing from the people that actually lived these times and their memories and thoughts.
Thank you again 🙏❤️
Kindest regards
Ellie of Britainia
I love how the graffiti date-marks the exposure times over time. In 1950 and in 1990 people have been there, standing where you are standing, looking at what you are looking at, and between those times it's only been the fish.
Great video, Another bit of information, the bell from the church survives in the St Phillips church in Chaddesden which was built in the 1950's to serve the expanding housing estate. I was Christened there in 1964.
Hi. Thank you for sharing.
Where in Chaddesden? Have you a Chaddesden there or do you mean Chaddesden Derby.?
If you could please elaborate more 🙏 thanks again.
Kindest regards
Ellie of Britainia
@@shineurlight The church is on Taddington Road. and yes Chaddesden Derby.
Speaking as a bricklayer stonemason the workmanship here is second to none absolutely brilliant masters they were thanks again for posting
Thanks very much John
can you explain at 12:40 why the stone on the gate post seems to have not been finished , very strange
@@SilverKrow With regards to the unfinished stone facing at 12:40 if you look at the bottom of the post you can see there would have been a stone wall up against this face so this side would not have been seen. It seems the stonemason has realised he didn't need to work this side of the stone half way through carving it. I imagine a few expletives were utered by this craftman for the time wasted. Amazing story by the way thanks for sharing it.
I have been imagining Derwent Hall, the huge house, the owners, the servants, the village, the residents, all gone. What a shame. Great video Martin 👍🇬🇧
Never fails to fascinate, makes you feel a bit melencholy though when you think of the beauty of the place and the build quality of the hall.
These lost villages are absolutely fascinating! One good thing to come out of the extra dry summer. Thanks Martin, James and co for giving us such fab videos. ❤️
Hi Martin and crew, remember my dad taking us to see the remains of both villages in the drought of the 70’s either 76 or 77, really sad though to see the remnants , the church steeple didn’t get demolished until later on, there is the remains of a railway that used to transport the stone etc to construct the howden and derwent reservoirs, 617 squadron used to train over the derwent reservoir for the dams raid in 1943
Looks like they walked on the railway in the video - characteristic embankments in the footage I thought.
The 76 drought reveal, went up, but the church tower had been demolished donkeys before.
A lovely video Martin, such a shame a wonderful old house had to go for the sake of a reservoir. Its amazing how many features of Derwent Hall become visible at low water, another piece of history lost to progress. Many thanks for producing brilliant, interesting and varied video's, really appreciate all the time you put into researching and editing the content, so professional. James and yourself make a great duo, always bringing smiles to a Sunday evening, thanks once again.🙂👍
Cheers Steve, much appreciated, really enjoyed the day 👍
That fireplace in Derwent House was a work of art......I suspect the first big piece of stone you found with the fan flutes on it sat on top of it.....
Must have been a phenomenal building....
Martin and Co, high time I reflected a small token of my appreciation for the great stuff y'all been bringing me . Much appreciated - keep 'em coming 🙂
Lol nice name
That was fantastic thanks. Such a shame that village had to go. We have that here too, whole townships flooded. I can understand the church spire being destroyed having to stop people hurting themselves. Thanks for taking me along. Please stay safe and take care
The mystery item at 1:50 appears to be a watering trough for horses / animals, and the post at the end is maybe a hitching post or gatepost. Thanks Martin & Gang for the wonderful adventures, absolutely love every video. Oh...and yes, moral of these stories is NEVER build a house in a village in a valley if you want it to remain. Such a sad shame. Derwent Hall was such a beautiful example of architecture, all lost. By the way, you blokes Bohemian Rhapsody at the end was priceless.
Thanks am glad you enjoyed the singing 😄
Given the gate at the end (that’s what the latch is for) and it being level with the road, I would bet on a sheep dip.
Dips were used to wash the dirt off the wool prior to shearing and with quite a bit of arsenic added to kill parasites (like ticks) in the fleece (more environmentally friendly alternatives are used today but the equipment is the same).
What an extraordinary film!!!!! Tragic these people had to give up their homes for the reservoir. Sad to see those beautiful buildings demolished. Special thanks to James for gingerly walking out to the "pump house" to take a video. I would have been moaning away if the interior of that was left a mystery. Thanks, Martin, for another excellent video of a place most of us will never have to ability to see. Thanks Gents!!!
Thanks very much Suzie,
@@MartinZero You're quite welcome Sir!! I look forward to your Sunday history lessons.
The Church at West End village (Washburn Valley) suffered the same fate, but in its case, the tower was always going to be above the waterline and and was demolished before the reservoir was filled, however, the reason for its demolition was the same.
Also a factor was that stone (especially dressed-stone) from many of the buildings, was also used in the construction of the decorative dam-features!
Yeah I can remember SEEING the top of the church before they blew it
One thing which always amazes me when Haweswater drops really low, is the you can walk through the old paths of Mardale village, and one of the paths crosses an old pack horse bridge that goes over the original beck that flowed through he village.
Got to just thank you and your guys for all the Manchester videos. My son graduated from Manchester University, and made his home in Manchester, working as a pharmacist in Salford Royal. Having watched your channel, I now have a great love of Manchester and am trying to visit some of the sites you have shown me, particularly the Roman relics. And also a big thanks for introducing me to the Scottish National libraries website for side by side mapping, so useful, cheers mate. I'm way to old to do any culverts so no worries there, but so interesting to watch you lot doing them. Also following and enjoying Paul and Rebbeca's videos too, stay safe lads 👍
martin I'm blown away with so much information put into 25 mins a massive thank you to you all for putting this up....its such an intresting historical cycle of men's efforts to build then tear down and cover then to see nature and the seasons work together to peel back the past show off what men built and destroyed and nature to recover and reclaim ....amazing video and drone shots well done mate x
Thanks very much Bob, glad you enjoyed
Very interesting Martin. Derwent Hall looked a beautiful place but the demands for water were too great for it to survive in a perfect valley for flooding.
It would be a longer journey for you but a similar thing was done at Rutland Water . The church there survived but is half buried at the edge of the reservoir. It is still used I believe. I saw an exhibition in there of photographs of the valley/village . Near Oakham.
We used to visit Derwent Water now and again, when I lived in Manchester, but I've never seen it looking like this! There's something mysterious and a bit spooky about submerged places. Fascinating! Nice one Martin and colleagues. ⭐⭐⭐👍
Thanks William I agree very moving to see
Love this place I live in Nottinghamshire so Derbyshire is a go to place, as a child in the 70s i was always taken here my late dad got speaking to an elderly gentleman who told us all about the villages. Continued to visit throughout the years not been this summer so a huge thanks for the video, always wondered why they have never capitalised and built a museum and a little coffee shop to share the great story
All these remains that you found were amazing. It's absolutely wonderful being able to view these things. All the detail so well preserved after all these years. Fascinating! 🤗
Thanks, yes it was well worth the drive up there
Martin, the trough past the old stone post is most likely a sheep wash. We have an identical one at Plumpton Hall in Cumbria. I have Haweswater reservoir on my doorstep, which now and again, in drought conditions shows the emnants of the drowned village of Mardale, also Thirlmere reservoir when low shows the outline of the village of Armboth, fascinating, aren't they.
Thinking the same! Also that would mean the remains of the large adjacent building would've been a barn. Discovered through a bit of research that the strange building with the barrelled-roof was the village's pump-house, most likely primarily supplying water to the large Derwent Hall residence!
This probably the best video of a very fascinating subject I've seen. The drone footage, the high definition close ups of the architecture and some old images of Derwent villages I never seen before make this the best yet. Thank you for the effort you've put into producing this.
I agree that this is all too good to miss. Not bored with reservoirs at all, quite the reverse! I think someone else has said that that mystery building was a pump house. I watched another video about this reservoir and its maker thought it was a farm building too, but I looked it up myself as I had my doubts. As it happens, I lived next to the Moehnesee dam, near Soest in Germany for two years, one of the targets of the Dam Busters, but I've never been to see the Derwent reservoir! ( While in Germany I once had a conversation with the grandfather of a local person I knew who had taken pot shots at the low flying aircraft with his hunting rifle the night they breached the dam!) And the Moehnesee too was flooded to create a new reservoir to serve the industrial area of the Ruhr. That map made sense of it all and thanks for those fascinating facts about Derwent Hall and the church. It was a very cheery brew this time and so a sort of mixed feeling video for me. Of course it was necessary to sacrifice the two villages but it's still a sad feeling, and to see the church tower finally bite the dust, was saddest of all. Thanks guys that was a brilliant watch!
Thank you, yes I was very sad they blew up the church it was such a good feature
@@MartinZero Fred Dibnah would have done a better demolition without resorting to explosives 😎
I was around here yesterday Martin, and you can now walk all around the building on the other side of the reservoir (in your video around the 4 minute mark). I went on a guided walk around here a few years ago, further down past Howden dam is where the old navvies village used to be (Tin Town) where the workers who built the dams lived. But that building is apparently something to do with the reservoir, an old Valve House, and not part of the remains of Derwent.
I enjoyed seeing the amazing artifacts. It's sad when a whole town with all its history is demolished and flooded.
I am very glad you made the trek down to the exposed hall and village. The stonework is a treasure and for some reason I'm fascinated by those stairwell pantries. You always do a superb job telling the story of a place. Including the footage of the demolished tower made it all the more poignant.
The building you looked inside was a pump house.
You also looked a a large carved piece of stone, then moved to another feature just behind it. 10:50-11:15 That was a fireplace and that large carved piece of stone used to sit on top of it.
I had heard that. That’s why a put a comment next to it. Do you have anymore info
@@MartinZero I can add that it had lovely white glazed tiles on the ceiling, and possibly the walls as well. From the inside, it looks like the walls had been prepared for demolition, but never executed. From the drone shots overhead, my surmise would be that those dark rectangular shapes under the water might have been chambers (plant rooms) for boilers, pumps, valves etc and so forth. They all appear to be joined by a central channel, a passageway. Given the relative difference in levels between the "pump house" and chambers, I'd say they were underground, and given the decorative stonework of the pump house, and the glazed tiles within, I'd hazard a guess that the pump house itself was a prized structure, but the plant to run it was less aesthetically pleasing, and therefore hidden underground. There would likely have been an underground gallery for the water pipes which carried the water from the pumps, to wherever it was required. Hence the passageway joining the chambers.
That's just my thoughts. I may way off the mark.
Thank god, I was wracking my brains for what that building could be!
These just get better and better, Martin...and I love the banter: 'I've been throwing sticks for him.' Priceless! Please keep them coming.
Yuppers, and the sly slip of the tounge in the discussion over brioche swirls or pastille da nata tarts(Portuguese custard tarts) which wasn't edited out 🧐
I think this will be one if my favorites. As usual, I'd love to see the remains in person. Maybe someday...
Thank you, if you do go, The Snake pass was closed but am sure its temporary
These low-water videos are the best you've ever made. I want to restore these places.
Thanks 👍
Always enjoy the videos and your enthusiasm for your 'neck of the woods'.
It is a proper release from the bad news and misery of our modern world to see the past and its former glory in such spectacular countryside. You never fail to remind me of the beauty of our wonderful environment that we pass by on our daily lives.
A very well documented video you've made here, Martin. That Derwent village looked to have some buildings of real classic architecture, and it's nice to see that some of the remains have shown with the water being so low in the reservoir. Many thanks to you and the lads for the presentation.
Thanks Ffranc much appreciated as always
The reservoirs are more or less in my back yard and I have visited many time to Ladybower, but have not been since the water receded you always seem to find more which is a credit to you and the quality of your videos mate which we all enjoy so much.
Great video, sad to see a lovely village disappear and the ruins re-appear. Thanks Martin and Team.
Fascinating history there! That is sad, about the loss of the fine old architecture, but at least there are the old photos, maps, and remains. I can imagine all the little arches and pantries making excellent fish habitat, when the water levels are higher. Thank you Martin, and the kids, for another fantastic and informative video! 😊👍
excellent video. A lot of effort and nice work on explaining the history. I felt sad watching the church tower being demolished, history is so precious. I've used the nls sight for many years and have done overlays on google earth and it still astounds me at how accurate maps of the late 19th century are when compared to actual satelite images.
Always a treat to watch you and the boys gambolling over the terrain!
Gambolling 👌😄
I went to see this in 1989-90. I don't think the water level was quite as low as it is here, though. Interesting peek into an untouched piece of history.
You're the one who left his mark on that part of the hall LOL
I was JUST here last weekend!
Great explore!
Thanks Jack
Excellent video, Martin & Co. Thank you.
Just love the old stories you bring us
Thank you
Fascinating video and history Martin.
Thank you so much for this absolutely fantastic footage
Completely fascinating and brilliant insight into the lost past of Derwent village. Expertly presented. Well done and many thanks.
Thank you David
That was really cool, thanks for showing us all the exciting features!!!
Thanks for this Martin. I recall going to see it long, long ago (1957 I think) when the water level was quite low (but not like this). It makes me sad to think of the village being destroyed - even though it was for a good cause.
This is awesome, brilliantly put together with the old maps and very well explained! Thanks! 👌🏼
Thanks Fanny 👍
Thanks Martin, and everyone else involved, your enthusiasm and excitement are palpable.
Thank you Tim
Thank you for that video. Three to five generations ago my family's name was Derwent (somehow it was changed the Darwent). However, my ancestors lived in Hope Valley as farmers as long ago as 1630. I knew about Derwent Hall and it's village for awhile. It's unfortunate about its demise. Your tour of the reservoir brings honour to it's memory. ❤️❤️
Thank you, really enjoyed watching your video 👍🏻
Great video it's good to see these places like you said it might not be visible again for years. The black and white photo overlaid was brilliant showing the village as it was now and then. The masonry work on these remains was fantastic buildings built with pride and built to last like the bridge you showed with the arch. Great work guys 👍
Yeah that stonework was amazing, thanks David
Wow history… Absolutely brilliant keep it up
Good video Martin, something really eery about sunken remains of buildings. A living photo that keeps its original shapes in memory but whose destruction by the water is so visual.
Great history video guys. This is 'hopefully', a unique chance to see the remains of this area and you have captured it beautifully. Thank you for your time for uploading and sharing.
Thanks David
Nice video Martin, thanks for the information about this lovely place. Chris
Thanks Martin, for this brilliant investigation. About 30years ago I fished Jumbles Reservoir (near Bolton) and after a long hot summer I was fishing amongst the buildings that had previously been a village. It is a lot smaller than Derwent Water but the history is similar. Take care and all the best. Stevie
That sounds good Steve, I will look up Jumbles
That's awesome! Interesting to see if the water goes any lower and more will be revealed. As always great video Martin
Yes its fascinating to look at, hard to make everything out there is so much. thank you Steven
One of your best videos yet. Loved the brioche bantz
Fascinating video Martin, thanks.
Thanks very much
I love this video. Talk about walking back to old times. Thanks, Martin.
Well done finding footage of the demolition of the church tower Martin. I would never have expected that to have been recorded. Ant, from Trekking and Towpaths, has a few videos of these reservoirs, here on YT.
Some of the stonework has survived in remarkably good condition. I would have expected the water to have done more damage. I wonder if you'd find much if you were to metal-detect the area.
So much effort has gone in to this, excellent!
Marvellous explore Martin.
Thanks Richard
Its lovely to see the remains of the village. It must have been spectacular to see in all it glory, Another great video Martin and boys.
Yeah I bet it was a lovely idyllic place
Enjoyable video, thank you.
Very interesting. Thanks for exploring.
This is the 3rd video I've watched in as many months about Derwent showing the old remains since the water dropped but Martin & his crew has put the others to shame. So much more info to accompany the sights. Another very professional & enjoyable video. Thanks Martin 👍🏻
Thank you Nez Bitt glad you enjoyed
Great video this, amazing there is still so much under the water.
Another cracking video mate! Keep ‘‘em coming. Cheers.
Thanks Andy
Thanks you Martin for nice video see you next time
Glad you managed to see it! This place is so fascinating
Yeah its brilliant isnt it
Excellent explore really enjoyed it
Such stunning ruins! I can't get over the workmanship of the stonework. Great video again. 😊👏
I love this! 😍 About 8 years ago, I worked at the YHA hostel in nearby Castleton. They have history panels with photos that talk about Derwent Hall hostel and the villages that were destroyed for the reservoirs. There is another story about the church tower, which is that the bell could be heard after it was destroyed. Thanks for showing this, I have been there a few times but never when the water level is particularly low.
I'm sure Ive read somewhere, that the actual bell was removed & transferred to a nearby church.
Thank you for sharing x
Thanks Tina
Martin you are such a joy. Your videos are so exciting and interesting, Thankyou so much
Thank you Judith 😀
You gentleman never disappoint. This is especially interesting. Thank you.
Thanks Katherine
Woah that's amazing Martin. Thanks for taking the time to do the vids. It's a cracking place to visit 😉
Yeah well worth a visit, thank you Lisa
Thanks, Martin. Yet another fascinating and interesting video 👍
Thanks Malc 👍
A very moving video on time people and change. Most interesting. Thank you.
How cool is that? Thanks for showing us Martin!
Thank you
Cheers, Martin. Brilliant :)
Brilliant guys Thx
Thanks for the upload Martin, i'm going again next weekend for another look, good! video thanks👍
Be interesting to see the water levels and thank you
Great video, thanks 👍
Very interesting video , a glimpse into the past , thanks for posting
That is incredible! Great work.
Thanks Dana
Great video again Martin and friends and great knowledge of the area and surrounding areas
Cheers Adrian
Another brilliant video, Thank you.
Thank you sir
Britain looks like a fascinating place with so much history in every corner. As with every country, so much is lost and torn down to make way for newer and bigger things.
Ohh, I was hoping you'd take a look at this one!
Such a shame the church spire was demolished, I would have loved to see it for myself. Would have been such a sight seeing it poking out the water.
Great coverage as always Martin!
fascinating story, with some incredible pics thanks Martin, superb video
Thanks very much
This was absolutely fascinating, I've been wanting to visit the longdendale valley for years. You ought to do a video on Ashway Gap House that once stood on the banks of Dovestone Reservoir if you're not already aware. I think some foundation still remains.
Yeah Ive heard of that, wasnt it a large house ?
@@MartinZero yes, and it's rumoured Jimmy Saville and others in certain circles visited it.
@@MartinZero though if you do a video on it, don't mention JS or the thought police will come after me 🤫😏😏😂
Haunting to see the town like that ....thank you for the history. Cheers from the USA 🇺🇸
Never disappointed looking at that countryside and history. Such a beautiful place anywhere you look.
Interesting video thankyou.
Fascinating lovely video
Thanks Adrian
I very much enjoyed this Martin! MINT👌
Cheers Paul