i'm a fulham fan all my life, and we might not have ever had the loudest support, when we had terraces 10 years back it was far better. seats have ruined atmosphere at loads of grounds, and part of what made it so great - standing and getting pissed with your mates, oh those were the days. its all for families now.
I used 2 stand in the shed, havent been 2 a game since '99 n wouldnt go back now anyway wiv or wivout terraces as u couldnt bring back wot once was. Not the club I grew up wiv anymore, though I still hav fond memories of terrace days gone by. RIP The Whitewall
I am too young to remember the terraces but have heard stories of rangers v celtic games where people said it was like raining glass bottles and the best atmosphere in the world. Ultras1 BRING BACK TERRACES!!
Yep I am a Chelsea fan, and I do have something against Liverpool supporters, but I do admire the atmosphere you put on in the Euro games. I've been travelling up an down the country for many years watching us play, since the 70s to be more precise, and I do know how passionate your fans are. That is why I belive that the masses of your fans were the base cause of both the disasters. Some of the fans outside the grounds did not have tickets and forced their way in. Fact.
good song choice! I remember when newcastle fans protested about season ticket prices rises after the extension by standing all game for a few matches. Eventually only about a 3rd of people were left standing, they asked everyone to sit down over the PA, there were 52000 standing for another half a dozen games after that. Ironic, the people who allow the clubs to exist have no say in any aspect of them.
I miss the old days of standing in the shed. knees up muvver brown, we r swaying, lets go fuckin mental...great terrace songs, those days can sadly never cum back. RIP Whitewall, shedend chelsea
Well said mate, I think something seriously needs to be done. Make your home a fortress. England Used to have the most passionate fans in the world but now the rest of the world makes us look like we have no passion when we all know we do!
Im British and i know plenty of people who watch the NFL, especially at uni, but football wont die, not in our generation atleast, i love Blackburn Rovers and i will until the day i die
2. Once those gates were opened the fans went through into a tunnel where they couldnt see what was at the other end. they didnt know ppl were being crushed. 3. The tunnel lead to the area behind the goal (pens 3 and 4) which were already full - leading to around 3000 people being funnelled into an area which was designed to hold 1600-2000.
Lower leagues have no trouble on their terraces because hardly anyone attends their local football clubs games down there. They had CCTV at Hillsborough. It never prevented that from happening. With seats there is a designated place for each fan. Everyone feels safe and in todays modern stadiums (many of which are built from scratch) you often get perfect views all round. But with terraces you get 4-5 people crammed into the same space.
hi. this is a very nice video. just thought i'd share my experience. Im a greek guy supporter of panathinaikos. Yes i know our championship is miles behind. maybe thats why we still have the chance to stand up. Our stadiums are alla seated however in the parts of the stadiums which are for the more fanatic fans we just stand up on top of the seats. We still have a lot of hooliganism. in and out of the football grounds. 2 years ago a panathinaikos fan was stabbed to death by arch rival hools
Brilliant video and spot on. All seaters have ripped the soul out of going to football in so many ways. After Hillsborough, it suited our FA and the police to point the finger of blame at terracing, where the truth of it was it was their incompetence that led to it. Yes, the squalor of stadium's has gone but has been replaced with a soul-less atmosphere. It has just become sterile and quite frankly-boring. I could go on for hours.... Very sad.
@spire1997 I get a sense of pride, knowing that when I say I'm from Manchester when I'm in another country talking to foreigners, people recognise the place because of Manchester United. A lot of people in Europe talk about United as being in the same elite group with Real Madrid, Barca, Juventus, the Milan teams. I just see it as my local football club, and I'd still go whether we were Champions League or Conference, fortunately I've never seen the dark days as I'm too young to remember them
Thank god football terraces are a thing of the past.We may view the terraces and standing with nostalgia but it isnt as good as we may remember.I was at colchester 2 years back watching sunderland in a standing section and it was a nightmare .I couldnt see fuck all.Thank god for all seater stadiums
This almost implies that Justice Taylor advocated the removal of terraces. Which he didnt, we could have kept the terrace as Germany have whilst listening to the key points of Justice Taylors report.
@lfcJT07 I respect the idea that safety should be a priority, and it goes without saying that the Hillsborough disaster should always be remembered and taken into account, especially when discussing the return of safe standing terraces. But safe standing terraces have worked!! it has been tried and tested all over europe and it has brought back the amazing atmosphere that fans can create whilst standing side by side, chanting their team on!! BRING SAFE STANDING TO ENGLAND, and save our game!
I agree with MANC90, the only way terraces will come back is through 'people power', fans from all clubs need to put their rivalries aside and unite in this cause. I'm not suggesting forcing everyone to stand, just bring back the CHOICE already. I've been voting with my feet, only paying to watch football at grounds that still permit standing. Imagine if everyone football fan in the country did that, then someone would have to take notice...
Terraces will be just one of many things that will eventually be stripped from the game in the coming years. It's very sad but I think we will be left with a group of 14-20 teams that are in a league with no relegation, owned by foreign billionaires for the most part, playing games attended by rich people who couldn't tell you the names of more than 2 of the players and have zero connection to the club, the sport, the players or the fans... they are just "consumers"
Anyone over a ceratin age will tell you the atmosphere at grounds since they became all seated is nowhere near what it was in the terrace days. Be it Liverpool or Lincoln, the real passion has gone.
well I think there are advantages to seats too. The biggest one is that now you have a limit of how many people can be allowed in. And then everyone has their own space. Nobody is going to be squished in one area of the stadium and other place is not going to be empty. Finally, it is obviously a marketing issue where seats based on their location have a different price. Finally this could have reduced the hooligan effect. 5/5 thx for sharing
@hattonaxeman A minor league baseball stadium near my home has an area in the outfield set aside for standing, sitting, picnicking, whatever. It's just open ground. I've never been there myself. (Tickets are inexpensive, but very hard to come by.)
I'm a United fan who used to go to a lot of games in the late 70s and 80s. Whilst I admit I hate Liverpool as a club these people who died were fans who died when they were following their team. I remember how the police treated us as scum. Seeing a 14 year old kid being hit with a truncheon for standing off the pavement in a police escort. At the end of the day the police couldn't give a toss about their well being and when it backfired on them they lied through their teeth to get out of it.
An excellent vid. God I miss terracing, I was fortunare enough to stand on the North Bank at Upton Park just before they tore it down in the 90s. I hate sitting in modern stadiums, it's soulless. Safe standing would be a welcome addition to the modern game but sadly, highly unlikely.
teh reason why you wont find many stadiums with terrace's was because of the hillsborough disaster, after that they thought it would be a better to have all seater stadiums. you will find terraces in lower leauges because 1, they don't have such a big fan base, and 2 they don't have money to put the seats in.
i prefer seating, way more comfortable. I bet if all the grounds used to be all seater, and then they changed them to standing, people would still complain.
Beautiful yet tragic. The SUSD campaign and others are working hard to restore this great culture. The terraces sowed what Sky and the other money grabbing evil empires reaped at the dawn of the 90s. Long may it continue in Europe.
and 2nd nice to see craven cottage on there but I would like to point out that the stand shown is exactly the same as in that picture, we have managed to keep the history of our ground alive
Actually I'm a Celtic fan. We know how to create a great atmosphere whether it's seats or terraces. Given the choice between a crumbling smelly terrace or a modern purpose built arena I know what I'd choose. People forget that the game built for the working class man died long ago. Just look at the footballers for a start. It's not just a sport, it's become more like the entertainment industry, so people with the money to pay to see games demand the best views and to sit in the best stadiums.
Anything they may bring back in years to come would be a shadow of its former self. Sadly those days have gone. My sons will never have the experiences I had (In some ways thats a good thing,haha). I still have many fond memories of the big open terrace & glad I had my day. A time when Chelsea really were Chelsea. RIP The Shed.
Bring safe standing to England, why have we still not got it? German supporters have proved it works, thousands of fans stand in seated areas causing more trouble anyway. The only way to improve atmospheres in England is to let those who wan't to, STAND and make some noise!
Soon Chesterfield will join that list and i'm absolutely devastated about it. We're building an all seater legoland stadium and losing the ground that has been our home for nearly 150 years. Saltergate is Chesterfield Football Club. Thanks a lot to the F.A for making football all about corporate facilities and revenue, fuck what the fans want.
I have stood on many and im 13, we always go in the standing bit, better atmosphere and everything :D it's awesome, sitting is shite and we never go in it, i go to every home and away game, there is always standing. are you saying you don't get any? what football team do you support?
United fans should campaign to get a tier of the South Stand safely terraced if and when it gets rebuilt. Surely at the most supported club in the UK this could be possible, and then other clubs could follow suit?
yes but the thing about terracing is the management of it. at least with seating its organized and there is an exact capacity that it is meant to hold. safe terracing would be amazing, but its a proven death trap. now if you would still like to debate this, name one crush due to it being a seated stadia.
All seater stadiums signalled the death of working class football and the game was changed forever. Hillsborough did not occur due to the terraces, it happened due to lack of police control and their failure to react in a major incident situation. I lost a family member at Hillsborough and i think the tragedy is far too often used as a scapegoat for turning a working class sport in to a corporate money making business.
Dont get me wrong. Football is not hooliganism. However, the feeling of being in the middle of the standing part of the stadium chanting and singing waving banners lighting up flares and having a great time while supporting your team is (for me) miles better that sitting in your posh seats with a great view next to boring fans who tell you to sit down when you get up for a chance.... in conclusion... fuck modern football !
It was louder than Anfield in last years survey. It holds 11500 and many a football fan has commented on how it'll be a sad loss if we have to leave it. I've only just noticed your age, your only a kid, what do you know about anything. I've visited football grounds up and down the country including Anfield. I have seen first hand how diluted the atmosphere has become at premiership grounds. Anfield is one of the worst. Imagine saying that 20 years ago.
Most fans do. Don't know about other teams but at Liverpool in the big big matches the Kop stay stood up and every seems to sing and get into it a bit more when stood up. I prefer to stand and have a sit down at Half time. I'm sure most other fans share the same opinion. Plus being 6ft 5 and the bloke i got with 6ft 6 you get naff all leg room so standing is much more comfortable for me. Only place i've ever had adequate leg room was Cardiff Millenium Stadium. Shame bout the old stadiums mind
shut it, that was only one incident, nothing like that happened in all those years before that when terracing was there, it was the fencing that caused hillsborough to happen with fans being pushed onto the big fences they had at the front.
"maybe i should do my home work", what that an attempt to patronise me? The leppings lane end was overcrowded because a gate was opened that shouldn't have been. If the terrace was kept to capacity then it would have been perfectly safe. Like i said, it was the overcrowding that killed people not the actual terrace. I stand on a terrace every week at my local club and its perfectly safe. Bars stretch across the legnth of the terrace to avoid mass movement.
Grêmio is building a new stadium, but it wont be ENTIRELY seater. There will be a terrace for the famous Geral Firm (not really a firm, in Brazil, its called a Torcida Organizada, or Organized Fans), so they can continue to do their famous avalanche. check it out NKL9zzq0uCE 5XDajXhGL_I
I think Hillsborough was a combination of Liverpool fans and bad policing, because half the fans that were outside the gate did not have ticktes, therefore causing the crowding outside which subsequently led to police having to let you in, to avoid crushing outside. Heysel, well, I find it a big coincidence that the two major disasters of football terracing involved Liverpool FC supporters..
how can people write disgusting things about 96 innocent people losing their lives? have you got no respect? RIP to all the 96 Justice will soon come You'll never walk alone xXx
1:52 Probably the best picture of United fans in all time. Even though I don't like Liverpool, Back in the day, No stands were more decorated as much as Old Trafford or Anfield. Like heres Anfield = 0:58, Heres Old Trafford = 1:52. Hardly tell the difference. Now though sadly, wooden flag poles are banned from Old Trafford and get confiscated by stewards on the way in. There's no words on how much i hate modern football.
The Ellis stadium disaster (look it up). A 60'000 all seater stadium in South Africa. Are all seaters proven death traps now as well? Hillsbrough also had a capacity, it just wasn't adhered too. If it had been then it wouldn't have happened. Like i said, bad management caused the disaster not the terracing. When a car crashes on a road does that mean the road should be shut down? Or does it mean the road should be managed so it becomes safer for the road users.
Following the Hillsborough disaster, Lord Justice Taylor was appointed to conduct an independent inquiry into the events surrounding and leading up to it. Taylor's inquiry sat for thirty-one days and published two reports, one interim report that laid out the events of the day and immediate conclusions and one final report that made general recommendations on football ground safety. who would u rather trust, taylor or the proven liar Mc Kenzie? TRUTH AND JUSTICE NOW! JFT 96
most rugby league grounds have a terrace the terrace at Headingley strtches the length of the pitch holding roughly 8000 and theres no problems why the same cant be put in the football i dont know?
A great example of this is my team Leicester City now at the Walkers Stadium n u would av to x10 the noise level to get anywhere near the mad atmosphere that was at Filbert Street, its embarrasin.
terraces are a thing of te passed and sadly missed.. however althought seats are now in place at ground we could revoilt all teams across the country and say fuck u i aint sitting down im standing!!
@KopOut8 Agreed there, Old Trafford pisses me off these days, I can name the entire starting 11 from the Champions League Final from 99, I'd love to see how many more of the 73,000 could do that. Most of them wouldn't even know where the Stretford End gets it's name from, or which end the Scoreboard End is. My connection to Manchester United is that I was born 5 miles from there. I'd love to know how many other 'fans' can say similar not many I bet.
Every single supporter without a ticket couldn't possibliy know that 5000 others were rushing in as well, police should have acted more responsibly. The supporters didn't know how filled the stadium was until it was too late.
Terrace's will eventually return, it'll just take a goddawful long time.
I have lost a part of my youth & my son will never know the commararderie that terracing gave. Great video & thnaks for the memories.
I'm just glad I had my days in the Shed, my son's won't get that chance. Football died years ago in my eyes.
i'm a fulham fan all my life, and we might not have ever had the loudest support, when we had terraces 10 years back it was far better. seats have ruined atmosphere at loads of grounds, and part of what made it so great - standing and getting pissed with your mates, oh those were the days. its all for families now.
Its our turn to re-locate to a souless all seater next season. I'm absolutely devasted. RIP Saltergate and our very own Spion Kop.
I used 2 stand in the shed, havent been 2 a game since '99 n wouldnt go back now anyway wiv or wivout terraces as u couldnt bring back wot once was. Not the club I grew up wiv anymore, though I still hav fond memories of terrace days gone by. RIP The Whitewall
I am too young to remember the terraces but have heard stories of rangers v celtic games where people said it was like raining glass bottles and the best atmosphere in the world. Ultras1 BRING BACK TERRACES!!
Yep I am a Chelsea fan, and I do have something against Liverpool supporters, but I do admire the atmosphere you put on in the Euro games. I've been travelling up an down the country for many years watching us play, since the 70s to be more precise, and I do know how passionate your fans are. That is why I belive that the masses of your fans were the base cause of both the disasters. Some of the fans outside the grounds did not have tickets and forced their way in. Fact.
good song choice! I remember when newcastle fans protested about season ticket prices rises after the extension by standing all game for a few matches. Eventually only about a 3rd of people were left standing, they asked everyone to sit down over the PA, there were 52000 standing for another half a dozen games after that. Ironic, the people who allow the clubs to exist have no say in any aspect of them.
I miss the old days of standing in the shed. knees up muvver brown, we r swaying, lets go fuckin mental...great terrace songs, those days can sadly never cum back. RIP Whitewall, shedend chelsea
Well said mate, I think something seriously needs to be done. Make your home a fortress. England Used to have the most passionate fans in the world but now the rest of the world makes us look like we have no passion when we all know we do!
So true. I can't see fans in this country helping each other out though unfortunately.
Ignore all the idiots mate.
May he rest in peace with the others.
We're all Liverpool fans today Xx.
been told to sit down for 90mins and dont banter with away fans,football will be like a day at the cinema very soon.
Im British and i know plenty of people who watch the NFL, especially at uni, but football wont die, not in our generation atleast, i love Blackburn Rovers and i will until the day i die
2. Once those gates were opened the fans went through into a tunnel where they couldnt see what was at the other end. they didnt know ppl were being crushed.
3. The tunnel lead to the area behind the goal (pens 3 and 4) which were already full - leading to around 3000 people being funnelled into an area which was designed to hold 1600-2000.
No fans=no football.
Lower leagues have no trouble on their terraces because hardly anyone attends their local football clubs games down there. They had CCTV at Hillsborough. It never prevented that from happening. With seats there is a designated place for each fan. Everyone feels safe and in todays modern stadiums (many of which are built from scratch) you often get perfect views all round. But with terraces you get 4-5 people crammed into the same space.
Remember crush barriers and open terracing? Much better atmosphere and warmer too!
hi. this is a very nice video. just thought i'd share my experience. Im a greek guy supporter of panathinaikos. Yes i know our championship is miles behind. maybe thats why we still have the chance to stand up. Our stadiums are alla seated however in the parts of the stadiums which are for the more fanatic fans we just stand up on top of the seats. We still have a lot of hooliganism. in and out of the football grounds. 2 years ago a panathinaikos fan was stabbed to death by arch rival hools
Brilliant video and spot on. All seaters have ripped the soul out of going to football in so many ways. After Hillsborough, it suited our FA and the police to point the finger of blame at terracing, where the truth of it was it was their incompetence that led to it.
Yes, the squalor of stadium's has gone but has been replaced with a soul-less atmosphere. It has just become sterile and quite frankly-boring. I could go on for hours.... Very sad.
@spire1997 I get a sense of pride, knowing that when I say I'm from Manchester when I'm in another country talking to foreigners, people recognise the place because of Manchester United. A lot of people in Europe talk about United as being in the same elite group with Real Madrid, Barca, Juventus, the Milan teams. I just see it as my local football club, and I'd still go whether we were Champions League or Conference, fortunately I've never seen the dark days as I'm too young to remember them
All seater stadiums have no identity or character.
love the use of 'horrendously disfigured', top class. im too young for terraces, i feel i missed out a lot
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and if lord taylor said that terraces where safe, then why were they torn down. surely not for decoration, no?
local lower league football is where the standing and banter is at!
Thank god football terraces are a thing of the past.We may view the terraces and standing with nostalgia but it isnt as good as we may remember.I was at colchester 2 years back watching sunderland in a standing section and it was a nightmare .I couldnt see fuck all.Thank god for all seater stadiums
I agree, goal celebrations wer just not the same as they used to be from the crowd...
completely my point. not only that, just out of respect for those who died at hillsborough we should sit.
This almost implies that Justice Taylor advocated the removal of terraces. Which he didnt, we could have kept the terrace as Germany have whilst listening to the key points of Justice Taylors report.
@lfcJT07 I respect the idea that safety should be a priority, and it goes without saying that the Hillsborough disaster should always be remembered and taken into account, especially when discussing the return of safe standing terraces. But safe standing terraces have worked!! it has been tried and tested all over europe and it has brought back the amazing atmosphere that fans can create whilst standing side by side, chanting their team on!!
BRING SAFE STANDING TO ENGLAND, and save our game!
I agree with MANC90, the only way terraces will come back is through 'people power', fans from all clubs need to put their rivalries aside and unite in this cause. I'm not suggesting forcing everyone to stand, just bring back the CHOICE already. I've been voting with my feet, only paying to watch football at grounds that still permit standing. Imagine if everyone football fan in the country did that, then someone would have to take notice...
Terraces will be just one of many things that will eventually be stripped from the game in the coming years. It's very sad but I think we will be left with a group of 14-20 teams that are in a league with no relegation, owned by foreign billionaires for the most part, playing games attended by rich people who couldn't tell you the names of more than 2 of the players and have zero connection to the club, the sport, the players or the fans... they are just "consumers"
1:50 old stamford bridge was legendary.
Anyone over a ceratin age will tell you the atmosphere at grounds since they became all seated is nowhere near what it was in the terrace days. Be it Liverpool or Lincoln, the real passion has gone.
well I think there are advantages to seats too.
The biggest one is that now you have a limit of how many people can be allowed in. And then everyone has their own space. Nobody is going to be squished in one area of the stadium and other place is not going to be empty. Finally, it is obviously a marketing issue where seats based on their location have a different price. Finally this could have reduced the hooligan effect.
5/5 thx for sharing
@hattonaxeman A minor league baseball stadium near my home has an area in the outfield set aside for standing, sitting, picnicking, whatever. It's just open ground. I've never been there myself. (Tickets are inexpensive, but very hard to come by.)
Beautiful tune. Terraces are sadly gone now. F**k modern football.
1min 3secs. The auld shed at Rugby Park, Kilmarnock. Sadly missed.
Bring back terracing.
I'm a United fan who used to go to a lot of games in the late 70s and 80s. Whilst I admit I hate Liverpool as a club these people who died were fans who died when they were following their team. I remember how the police treated us as scum. Seeing a 14 year old kid being hit with a truncheon for standing off the pavement in a police escort.
At the end of the day the police couldn't give a toss about their well being and when it backfired on them they lied through their teeth to get out of it.
we still have terraces in ireland
An excellent vid. God I miss terracing, I was fortunare enough to stand on the North Bank at Upton Park just before they tore it down in the 90s. I hate sitting in modern stadiums, it's soulless. Safe standing would be a welcome addition to the modern game but sadly, highly unlikely.
Bring back the terraces? Sure, if you want to drag football back into the dark ages. Bring back hooliganism too while we're at it.
very sad and excellent song.
teh reason why you wont find many stadiums with terrace's was because of the hillsborough disaster, after that they thought it would be a better to have all seater stadiums. you will find terraces in lower leauges because 1, they don't have such a big fan base, and 2 they don't have money to put the seats in.
You ain't seen nothing like the mighty shed!!! :)
He does, he gets himself down Twerton!
i prefer seating, way more comfortable. I bet if all the grounds used to be all seater, and then they changed them to standing, people would still complain.
Very sad indeed! My respects from Brazil.
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Beautiful yet tragic. The SUSD campaign and others are working hard to restore this great culture. The terraces sowed what Sky and the other money grabbing evil empires reaped at the dawn of the 90s. Long may it continue in Europe.
what do you mean, theyve completely rebuilt 3 stands.
cud never beat the baseball ground
and 2nd nice to see craven cottage on there but I would like to point out that the stand shown is exactly the same as in that picture, we have managed to keep the history of our ground alive
Actually I'm a Celtic fan. We know how to create a great atmosphere whether it's seats or terraces. Given the choice between a crumbling smelly terrace or a modern purpose built arena I know what I'd choose. People forget that the game built for the working class man died long ago. Just look at the footballers for a start. It's not just a sport, it's become more like the entertainment industry, so people with the money to pay to see games demand the best views and to sit in the best stadiums.
Anything they may bring back in years to come would be a shadow of its former self.
Sadly those days have gone. My sons will never have the experiences I had (In some ways thats a good thing,haha). I still have many fond memories of the big open terrace & glad I had my day. A time when Chelsea really were Chelsea. RIP The Shed.
Bring safe standing to England, why have we still not got it? German supporters have proved it works, thousands of fans stand in seated areas causing more trouble anyway. The only way to improve atmospheres in England is to let those who wan't to, STAND and make some noise!
Soon Chesterfield will join that list and i'm absolutely devastated about it. We're building an all seater legoland stadium and losing the ground that has been our home for nearly 150 years. Saltergate is Chesterfield Football Club. Thanks a lot to the F.A for making football all about corporate facilities and revenue, fuck what the fans want.
How I miss the old Clock End and North Bank...
Thank you for making this video. SAVE ANFIELD STADIUM.
I have stood on many and im 13, we always go in the standing bit, better atmosphere and everything :D it's awesome, sitting is shite and we never go in it, i go to every home and away game, there is always standing. are you saying you don't get any? what football team do you support?
How I miss the old North Bank and Clockend...
I must admit im partial to a prawn sandwich with a nice bit of mayo.
I agree mate, hope baggies come back up!
Well obviously, but every ground had a barrier.
United fans should campaign to get a tier of the South Stand safely terraced if and when it gets rebuilt. Surely at the most supported club in the UK this could be possible, and then other clubs could follow suit?
yes but the thing about terracing is the management of it. at least with seating its organized and there is an exact capacity that it is meant to hold. safe terracing would be amazing, but its a proven death trap. now if you would still like to debate this, name one crush due to it being a seated stadia.
Dont go to matches! Show that you dislike the way fans are being treated!
All seater stadiums signalled the death of working class football and the game was changed forever. Hillsborough did not occur due to the terraces, it happened due to lack of police control and their failure to react in a major incident situation. I lost a family member at Hillsborough and i think the tragedy is far too often used as a scapegoat for turning a working class sport in to a corporate money making business.
Dont get me wrong. Football is not hooliganism. However, the feeling of being in the middle of the standing part of the stadium chanting and singing waving banners lighting up flares and having a great time while supporting your team is (for me) miles better that sitting in your posh seats with a great view next to boring fans who tell you to sit down when you get up for a chance.... in conclusion... fuck modern football !
It was louder than Anfield in last years survey. It holds 11500 and many a football fan has commented on how it'll be a sad loss if we have to leave it.
I've only just noticed your age, your only a kid, what do you know about anything. I've visited football grounds up and down the country including Anfield. I have seen first hand how diluted the atmosphere has become at premiership grounds. Anfield is one of the worst. Imagine saying that 20 years ago.
rip the kippax MAINE RD. u all been there u all know it.
Bring back the terraces!
YES.
mate i don't think all of those were ticketless you know
@WelcomebackEm I would mate, but when your family has been supporting your team since the 19th century, its difficult to turn your back on them.
Technically there isn't anything wrong with terraces...it's bad management that screws it up!
Most fans do. Don't know about other teams but at Liverpool in the big big matches the Kop stay stood up and every seems to sing and get into it a bit more when stood up.
I prefer to stand and have a sit down at Half time. I'm sure most other fans share the same opinion.
Plus being 6ft 5 and the bloke i got with 6ft 6 you get naff all leg room so standing is much more comfortable for me. Only place i've ever had adequate leg room was Cardiff Millenium Stadium.
Shame bout the old stadiums mind
At 2.12, i think that is the east terrace at Charlton Athletic, the biggest of them all
shut it, that was only one incident, nothing like that happened in all those years before that when terracing was there, it was the fencing that caused hillsborough to happen with fans being pushed onto the big fences they had at the front.
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That was a good attendance for Wigan in that photo 1:35
BTW - I am a Wigan fan!
"maybe i should do my home work", what that an attempt to patronise me?
The leppings lane end was overcrowded because a gate was opened that shouldn't have been. If the terrace was kept to capacity then it would have been perfectly safe. Like i said, it was the overcrowding that killed people not the actual terrace.
I stand on a terrace every week at my local club and its perfectly safe. Bars stretch across the legnth of the terrace to avoid mass movement.
good comment mcgreg. respect!
Grêmio is building a new stadium, but it wont be ENTIRELY seater. There will be a terrace for the famous Geral Firm (not really a firm, in Brazil, its called a Torcida Organizada, or Organized Fans), so they can continue to do their famous avalanche.
check it out
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I think Hillsborough was a combination of Liverpool fans and bad policing, because half the fans that were outside the gate did not have ticktes, therefore causing the crowding outside which subsequently led to police having to let you in, to avoid crushing outside. Heysel, well, I find it a big coincidence that the two major disasters of football terracing involved Liverpool FC supporters..
how can people write disgusting things about 96 innocent people losing their lives? have you got no respect?
RIP to all the 96
Justice will soon come
You'll never walk alone xXx
you got a hell of a lot more fans in a terrace than you can in all seater so thats probably why atmosphere is not as good.
1:52 Probably the best picture of United fans in all time. Even though I don't like Liverpool, Back in the day, No stands were more decorated as much as Old Trafford or Anfield. Like heres Anfield = 0:58, Heres Old Trafford = 1:52. Hardly tell the difference. Now though sadly, wooden flag poles are banned from Old Trafford and get confiscated by stewards on the way in. There's no words on how much i hate modern football.
Lord Taylor said it himself. Standing is not intrinsicly unsafe. I rest my case and you lose.
The Ellis stadium disaster (look it up). A 60'000 all seater stadium in South Africa. Are all seaters proven death traps now as well?
Hillsbrough also had a capacity, it just wasn't adhered too. If it had been then it wouldn't have happened. Like i said, bad management caused the disaster not the terracing.
When a car crashes on a road does that mean the road should be shut down? Or does it mean the road should be managed so it becomes safer for the road users.
great effort arabian nights 37. I like wot you done there.
Following the Hillsborough disaster, Lord Justice Taylor was appointed to conduct an independent inquiry into the events surrounding and leading up to it. Taylor's inquiry sat for thirty-one days and published two reports, one interim report that laid out the events of the day and immediate conclusions and one final report that made general recommendations on football ground safety.
who would u rather trust, taylor or the proven liar Mc Kenzie?
TRUTH AND JUSTICE NOW!
JFT 96
to be honest you have to have respect for fulham their ground has hardly changed
most rugby league grounds have a terrace the terrace at Headingley strtches the length of the pitch holding roughly 8000 and theres no problems
why the same cant be put in the football i dont know?
didn't this video used to have another song with it?
A great example of this is my team Leicester City now at the Walkers Stadium n u would av to x10 the noise level to get anywhere near the mad atmosphere that was at Filbert Street, its embarrasin.
terraces are a thing of te passed and sadly missed.. however althought seats are now in place at ground we could revoilt all teams across the country and say fuck u i aint sitting down im standing!!
well said. YNWA.
@KopOut8 Agreed there, Old Trafford pisses me off these days, I can name the entire starting 11 from the Champions League Final from 99, I'd love to see how many more of the 73,000 could do that. Most of them wouldn't even know where the Stretford End gets it's name from, or which end the Scoreboard End is. My connection to Manchester United is that I was born 5 miles from there. I'd love to know how many other 'fans' can say similar not many I bet.
Every single supporter without a ticket couldn't possibliy know that 5000 others were rushing in as well, police should have acted more responsibly. The supporters didn't know how filled the stadium was until it was too late.