UPDATE: The DG-58 (renamed to DG-56 now) was nerfed quite hard in today's update. For details on any weapon changes throughout the year, check out this playlist: ruclips.net/p/PLnAiSQ-bKCPv_RvZHIFljF_ltqIuzXjQR
First time I used this gun was with the blueprint (no additional attachments as i didn't have it unlocked at the time) in a FFA and i was surprised at how good it was and eventually got first. I actually like it for after the MTZ-556
@@BlackDT Might just be the way you use them. I can't talk bc I've only purchased the game 5 days ago and have only worked on the starter AR and pistol. Might only have about 10 hours of playtime on MW3. It might be less that they "suck" and just be less versatile to all situations. I know in MW 2022, you didn't really have to account for range and headshots as much. I'd always rock the Scorpion in CoD past; whatever variant was in the game.
I want to start out saying if you change the setting to where you can hold the trigger and it will burst at full speed on it's own THIS GUN IS UNSTOPPABLE! The main reason I came was to give you a hard time about it being called the "dg-58" and I learned something!! It WAS the dg-58! Ace you're amazing with the work you do and the niche you fill (if it can even be called a niche) cannot be done any better! The Cod community is BLESSED to have you!!
This was the first gun I ever used in MW3 ( I had a blueprint for it, no idea why) and I immediately fell in love with it. I love burst guns, and it's so great to finally have a good one.
I've actually been happy with the starter AR. I could tell right away that it was the AN-94. I just didn't realize the gimmick it had going. I thought the 2-burst was only in single fire. It can shoot really fast if you don't just hold down the trigger. Can't wait for the gun guide.
I was actually surprised on how great the tac stance was for this gun, I tried it myself first time I unlocked this gun like day 2 of launch by unlock challenges, I also like to use a nice 2x scope because it's just enough with the right attachments where you can easily laser someone with 2 bursts at long range
Favorite gun in the game, love burst guns and glad we finally have good options again. I can see it catching a slight nerf though, just hope they dont destroy it. Maybe make it so you need to land 2 shots to head to get a 1 burst.
While I am aware some people may not be the biggest fan of tac stance in this game, I highly recommend giving this a shot. I have had so much fun moving around the map and taking fights with this gun. It gives another way to play the game and the hipfire spread on this makes this seem like a decent sniper support gun.
My first game using this, I absolutely popped off with it. Went on my so far longest streak with it (17 kills), and was just absolutely shredding people. We were on Skid Row and it was putting in serious work for me at level 1 with no attachments. But then again, I could have also been on the down-swing of the SBMM curve too, so you just never know I suppose.
I did it today.. one week ago I tried to tell ace about dg58. Now it's time to ask for SVA 545 for sure. Laser beam. I'm wiping out snipers across Maps
The Rate of fire in Semi-auto is as fast as the bust rate of fire, so you click really fast, or if you want something to auto your trigger (auto-clicker or on certain controller) you have an even faster time to kill than normal (if you dont touch the head) and its honestly quite broken
Hey ace, whenever you cover the sva, it's suprisingly accurate at range when you burst fire, and when you build for tac stance and hipfire spread, it's really fun to use. Just wanna spread the word on this!
I built my tac stance build by stacking as much aim walking speed as possible and then adding the hip firing accuracy as well, and this build is quite effective when paired with the stalker boots.
I always loved burst rifle since the M16 in COD4 and the type-95. Before I started using the DG-58 I was struggling due in part to the heavy SBBM, but now I'm having fun 😅.
Fun fact: This gun massively benefits from manual fire set to auto (settings). It fires at max fire rate just by holding down the trigger! Edit: it apparently doesnt to some people, but it still fires very quickly. A patch might've changed it, but i'd need to check.
You could argue 3. While the M16 isnt as good as the DG and FR, its actually not half bad in this game, especially if you put some of the MW3 attachments on it. The higher vertical kick makes it very easy to get that 1 headshot you need to make it 1 burst. I used it a bit before i unlocked the FR and had one of my best games in MW3 so far with it
@@Jerrongamereview not that i know of, unless there is some kind of game setting that allows for auto burst. Also, it appears that the M16 actually needs TWO headshots to 1 burst instead of one, so its definitely not as forgiving as the DG and FR. Still decent in this game but i would not use it over the other burst weapons
Love these videos, Ace! Thought I'd be cheeky and say, it's the second time you've measured ADS in "metres per second" though... 😂. Keep up the good work. 👍
one vid i would love to see is comparison of hip vs tac vs asd and see the benefits and downsides of all three and best builds for some popular guns for each of these builds to maximize the potatioal
Agreed, I don’t even understand if there are any other benefits to tac stance other than a faster “aim walking” move speed. And I guess your gun doesn’t obstruct your vision but that’s not a big deal. I wonder if there is anything else
I tried leveling it in burst mode, and it really just didn't work out. For extremely long ranges it's great, but for general use I found the full auto mode to be more consistent. My guess would be that since you get the increased rate of fire off the first two shots even in full auto and the gun is a 5 shot kill, the burst delay, even though small, causes it to have a slightly slower TTK.
Try it in full auto and aim for 5 or 6 shot bursts. It turns it into a laser beam even when you build against recoil control and gun kick. Found it to be a little difficult if you take it too far but in general it melts people without needing to focus on accuracy at all. I went almost full ads and sprint to fire and it worked nicely for me.
I love that the burst rifles are actually good again. Even the less popular FR556 is decent if you dont want to use the more popular DG58. Hell, even the M16 functions better in this game than it did in MW2 lol. That said, the DG does feel just a tiny bit too strong up close. With how fast it can potentially kill with a single headshot, it probably should not be as forgiving up close for body shots as it is. A slightly longer burst delay would probably fix it. But if they want this to be the close range burst rifle while the FR is the longer ranged one, then they should increase the horizontal recoil on this. It could still work at mid range but would struggle more at long range. As it is now, its better than the FR in most situations, though i still prefer the FR because i love the Famas
There are rumors that the MW2 optics are not working properly in MW3 can you confirm if this is true? Also, DG-58 over M16? How does the M16 perform in this "new" game?
If you saw my last comment, ignore it. M16 needs 2 headshots up close for a 1 burst while DG and FR only need 1, and M16 still has way more kick. Ive had some really good games using the M16, and i would say its still more viable and forgiving than MW2, but overall its not worth using over the other two
Thanks for the Tac Stance build it was really helpful. Please do one of the PKM as well because getting that conversion kit sucked and that’ll help a lot of people out I’m sure. Also do you plan on doing separate conversion kit videos or will you try and include those in your guides as they roll out?
Talking about tac stance, I’ve noticed your ads time in it, even out of tac sprint, Is crazy fast, so much so I’ll swap to it while rushing in cqc it’s just that insane
Not really related to the DG, but at around 2:30 Ace notes that setting guns to semi auto changed damage profiles in MW2, as if that isn't still the case in MW3. However (at least with the dummies in the range) the Bas-B battle rifle is a 3 shot in fully auto while it is a 2 shot in semi auto. Haven't checked this with actual players but I wonder if Ace is aware of this.
I think he was implying specifically for this gun. In MW2 not all the weapons had damage changes but I believe the M16 and Lachmann Shroud both did (the only burst weapons). So he is saying this burst weapon does not follow that rule of thumb. One of the whole points to the battle rifle category is that they are usable in semi auto and full auto so that makes sense for the BAS-B
This gun has been nuts for me. I've used the fr 556 a good bit too. I like it as well but 25 rounds on a 3 burst is a head scratcher. You get left with one bullet after 8 bursts.......Better accuracy but i don't get the reduced mag size
I thought the same thing. Why put a 25 round mag on a 3 round burst weapon? The math aint mathing lol. At the very least make it 24 so that its actually divisible by 3
A burst weapon being more than just viable is such a treat. I tried it a couple days ago and found it fun to use for sure! Curious what kind of setupds you're going to recommend.
@@42ZaphodB42 Didn't play CW, didn't like it, so honestly it kind of vanished from my memory. lol Fair point though - I suppose I'm better showing appreciation for a burst rifle being good in the Modern Warfare series again.
I would also say that for accuracy, you could put the AOK 4.0X RQ-9 Recon scope on it. Slows you down a bit, but it's a 4x scope without sniper glint (according to attachment description).
The mercenary camps are at random locations every match you play they have a tent icon on them but do becareful attacking them, they shred your armor quick and can down you easily if you get caught off guard
Hey Ace, did you notice that they completely removed the burst delay on the Shroud? Its pretty much a direct upgrade from the MP5 now ((in my opinion)) you can just spam triggee and youve got a recoil free full auto on it.
Could you do a guide for which MW2 weapons are viable in MW3? I know they just carried over the old stats, but with the new health values and ttks, what was good might not still be good. I tried finishing a couple Gold challenges from MW2 in MW3 and the guns just felt unusable.
Yo Ace, do you think you’d make a video on the MW2 weapons and if any of them are viable in MW3? I skipped MW2 and am wondering if any of them are worth unlocking and if so which ones. That would be pretty neat.
he made a video on this 3 weeks ago using info from the beta called "Will MWII Guns Be Any Good in Modern Warfare III?", so unless there were any major changes that should answer your question
Burst guns are my fav guns too use im so happy to see good burst guns finally since ww2. I wish the famas was more of a consistent 1 burst tho, make it so 3 shots to upper torso is a 1 burst landing. Or add a 4 round burst gun for that cus the famas might kill too fast in 1 burst. I think the guns r pretty balanced tbh idk what there gon a balance but I think there just gonna ruin the balance most likely. Maybe the holger should get a tiny range nerf but thats about it
My friend, as much as i love the Famas (its been one of my favorite weapons since OG MW2), they better not dare make it 1 burst to the chest lol. Its accurate enough. Possibly even too accurate as it barely kicks enough to hit the head
@@ThatBluePit Famas is also my fav gun since the og mw2. The dg is better tho, so I want them to buff famas a bit so I have a reason to use it over the dg
@@Sideways_Singh imo the Famas is balanced fine. The DG is just very slightly overpowered. It does almost everything that the balanced Famas can do, but better (FR has advantage at long range though)
@@ThatBluePit actually ur right, the dg aint even op, there all pretty balanced, I just had the wrong attachments on my famas. I just made a disgusting build it might be better then the dg
Idk what all you might need to do... but something you could look into is apparently some steam players are dealing with losing AA if they put mw2 sights on mw3 guns... or in general. I'm on BattleNet so im not seeing it personally but ive heard multiple people playing through steam that have claimed it to be the case
After games of long burst delays that aren't even accurate, this much accuracy for that low of a delay is insane. Would not mind if either was increased because all it does is emphasize building for accuracy.
I like that they didn't give them that high of a burst delay. Makes these guns much better to control and reliable. If you miss a burst, you're not as easily punished. Added bonus: It's also much more realistic. I always had some very mixed feelings about infinity wards burst rifles. They were totally useless. Loved playing with them in the battlefield games and this feels MUCH better to use. BF4's M-16 had ZERO burst delay, so could basically full-auto it. Was a cool gun.
@@Sicdirewolf yeah it’s in accessibility and called “manual fire assist” or something like that and labeled as a setting to help players with motor skill issues. You change it from press to hold and if you hold the trigger the gun keeps firing. Semi auto guns(pistols) fire slow as hell tho
Love how the 1 bursts are solid this one is broken tho. Need to lower the headshot. I think if this is a consistent 2 burst kill then it will still be top tier but not busted
Doesn’t need a headshot nerf. All burst weapons should have strong head damage to reward accuracy. And the whole point of burst guns is to be able to one burst or else they’re useless
@@furryfoxjetpilot this gun isn’t useless if it doesn’t one burst unlike other games. The fire rate is fast enough it still kills faster than average. It all has much better precious than full auto weapons with the same TTK
Everything should be fun and viable and balanced around the casual gamer who is looking for some fun after school or work. I’d rather see them buff other options than nerf existing options. Lots of OP guns makes it fun to argue which is better while nerfing things leads to shifting metas and a seemingly nonstop cycle or nerfing the existing stuff and releasing something that was balanced without those nerfs in mind
This is good. But rip cold war burst guns . But according to the feedback from mw2 , muh ttk. This is why i use the kvd enforcer, two shot to the chest , one shot to the dome .
UPDATE: The DG-58 (renamed to DG-56 now) was nerfed quite hard in today's update. For details on any weapon changes throughout the year, check out this playlist: ruclips.net/p/PLnAiSQ-bKCPv_RvZHIFljF_ltqIuzXjQR
God, thanks!! Can u make an MW2 updates playlist too! It is starting to be crazy trying to catch up for weapon balancing in these games!
no it deserved to be top tier@@Stefano-lq6to
We finally have good burst guns after what feels like FOREVER
Sledgehammer "Ha. Hope you enjoyed it"
Cold War burst guns were crazy though
Warzone in 2021:
@@snoopcodd they were good, but not this crazy
@@mikeyplayzwrld I'm talking about mp :)
First time I used this gun was with the blueprint (no additional attachments as i didn't have it unlocked at the time) in a FFA and i was surprised at how good it was and eventually got first. I actually like it for after the MTZ-556
Glad lots of guns are good this year. The og mw2 mantra of "if everything is op, nothing is"
Idk what you mean a lot of the guns are trash. Most of the SMGs, all of the shotguns, and a ton of the MWII guns suck.
@BlackDT i totally agree. Hopefully they take the stance of buffing bad stuff rather than just nerfing the good
Have you used the Sidewinder or most of the SMGs?
@@BlackDTThe fullsize Uzi and UMP-45 are fucking goated though.
@@BlackDT Might just be the way you use them. I can't talk bc I've only purchased the game 5 days ago and have only worked on the starter AR and pistol. Might only have about 10 hours of playtime on MW3. It might be less that they "suck" and just be less versatile to all situations. I know in MW 2022, you didn't really have to account for range and headshots as much. I'd always rock the Scorpion in CoD past; whatever variant was in the game.
Can we get a brief video explaining the viability of the Mw2 weapons in this game? Great content as always Ace!
There just there for those people who want em I guess 😅
It's pretty common sense that the top guns in MW3 will be MW3 guns until the accidentally nerf everything so that MW2 guns are good again.
Truegamedata has a couple of good videos for that, one on ARs and one for SMGs
M13 and vel are the best 2
M13b is OP try it
I want to start out saying if you change the setting to where you can hold the trigger and it will burst at full speed on it's own THIS GUN IS UNSTOPPABLE! The main reason I came was to give you a hard time about it being called the "dg-58" and I learned something!! It WAS the dg-58! Ace you're amazing with the work you do and the niche you fill (if it can even be called a niche) cannot be done any better! The Cod community is BLESSED to have you!!
Top 3 weapons in the game amongst MWIII weapons, definitely.
1. BAS-B
2. Holger 556
3. DG-58
But if you include MWII weapons, M13B takes the #2 spot
I never got around to unlocking the M13 last year so I'll have to give it a go.
sva 545 is also solid.
@@steerj07mercenary bots in zombies have a chance of dropping the m13b
S'all good, I check and the gun is already unlocked in MW3 for me to use@@Nixon_47
@@Nixon_47really
This was the first gun I ever used in MW3 ( I had a blueprint for it, no idea why) and I immediately fell in love with it. I love burst guns, and it's so great to finally have a good one.
You got the blueprint from beating the campaign or beating one for the campaign missions I forgot which one
@@Chanman886sGaming Think the final one gives it to you
Thank you so much ace for including a tac stance build adding a third build to cater to those challenges is always helpful
I've actually been happy with the starter AR. I could tell right away that it was the AN-94. I just didn't realize the gimmick it had going. I thought the 2-burst was only in single fire. It can shoot really fast if you don't just hold down the trigger. Can't wait for the gun guide.
I was actually surprised on how great the tac stance was for this gun, I tried it myself first time I unlocked this gun like day 2 of launch by unlock challenges, I also like to use a nice 2x scope because it's just enough with the right attachments where you can easily laser someone with 2 bursts at long range
Favorite gun in the game, love burst guns and glad we finally have good options again. I can see it catching a slight nerf though, just hope they dont destroy it. Maybe make it so you need to land 2 shots to head to get a 1 burst.
Always glad when your set ups start coming out man I appreciate all the hard work and testing you do!
While I am aware some people may not be the biggest fan of tac stance in this game, I highly recommend giving this a shot. I have had so much fun moving around the map and taking fights with this gun. It gives another way to play the game and the hipfire spread on this makes this seem like a decent sniper support gun.
Glad the “Excellent Attachment Combinations” are back
“Awesome Attachment Combinations” didn’t a ring to it
My first game using this, I absolutely popped off with it. Went on my so far longest streak with it (17 kills), and was just absolutely shredding people. We were on Skid Row and it was putting in serious work for me at level 1 with no attachments. But then again, I could have also been on the down-swing of the SBMM curve too, so you just never know I suppose.
Can't wait to see the SVA 545 video. Fingers crossed it comes soon.
I did it today.. one week ago I tried to tell ace about dg58. Now it's time to ask for SVA 545 for sure. Laser beam. I'm wiping out snipers across Maps
My favorite gun just tapping it for the faster couple shots work really well at long ranges
The Rate of fire in Semi-auto is as fast as the bust rate of fire, so you click really fast, or if you want something to auto your trigger (auto-clicker or on certain controller) you have an even faster time to kill than normal (if you dont touch the head) and its honestly quite broken
DG-58 is my go to for head glitches. It’s so nice picking off those that want to hide!
I really like tac stance, glad to see some builds using it, idk it just feels cool
Hey ace, whenever you cover the sva, it's suprisingly accurate at range when you burst fire, and when you build for tac stance and hipfire spread, it's really fun to use. Just wanna spread the word on this!
I built my tac stance build by stacking as much aim walking speed as possible and then adding the hip firing accuracy as well, and this build is quite effective when paired with the stalker boots.
I always loved burst rifle since the M16 in COD4 and the type-95. Before I started using the DG-58 I was struggling due in part to the heavy SBBM, but now I'm having fun 😅.
just disable crossplay to get rid of the pc sweats. on xbox it's like sbmm no longer exists with crossplay off
@@TheKennyVu I play on PC with a DualSense controller lol.
@@ViTranDoof. You did this to you. Feels bad man.
7:00 dude when I did this camo I was dreading the TAC STANCE, but when I built the gun for it...OMG IT'S KIND OF OP.
Fun fact: This gun massively benefits from manual fire set to auto (settings). It fires at max fire rate just by holding down the trigger!
Edit: it apparently doesnt to some people, but it still fires very quickly. A patch might've changed it, but i'd need to check.
No, it doesn’t. With that setting on it fires MUCH slower than you can fire it manually.
i LOVED running hipfire famas in mw2019, if i do ever buy this game its instantly gonna be hc ffa for me with this gun in hipfire
As a burst fire fan I am so glad we have 2 great options this year,
You could argue 3. While the M16 isnt as good as the DG and FR, its actually not half bad in this game, especially if you put some of the MW3 attachments on it. The higher vertical kick makes it very easy to get that 1 headshot you need to make it 1 burst. I used it a bit before i unlocked the FR and had one of my best games in MW3 so far with it
@@ThatBluePit Can you convert the m16 to full auto?
@@Jerrongamereview not that i know of, unless there is some kind of game setting that allows for auto burst. Also, it appears that the M16 actually needs TWO headshots to 1 burst instead of one, so its definitely not as forgiving as the DG and FR. Still decent in this game but i would not use it over the other burst weapons
Love these videos, Ace! Thought I'd be cheeky and say, it's the second time you've measured ADS in "metres per second" though... 😂. Keep up the good work. 👍
Never was a fan of burst fire guns but this is fun to use
I've been really digging this gun. My favorite so far.
the dot in the middle of tac stance crosshairs is VERY accurate
Best gun in the game, got a nuke on Rust with it on Tuesday night! Thanks for the setups as always Ace.
DG-58 reminds me of the Type 95 from the OG MW3
Ace, will you be coving the mw2 guns since they've been rebalanced?
one vid i would love to see is comparison of hip vs tac vs asd and see the benefits and downsides of all three and best builds for some popular guns for each of these builds to maximize the potatioal
Agreed, I don’t even understand if there are any other benefits to tac stance other than a faster “aim walking” move speed. And I guess your gun doesn’t obstruct your vision but that’s not a big deal. I wonder if there is anything else
Great video, when you do the gun guide for the SVA, please try the gun in burst mode, I’d like to see how it compares to auto
I tried leveling it in burst mode, and it really just didn't work out. For extremely long ranges it's great, but for general use I found the full auto mode to be more consistent. My guess would be that since you get the increased rate of fire off the first two shots even in full auto and the gun is a 5 shot kill, the burst delay, even though small, causes it to have a slightly slower TTK.
Try it in full auto and aim for 5 or 6 shot bursts. It turns it into a laser beam even when you build against recoil control and gun kick. Found it to be a little difficult if you take it too far but in general it melts people without needing to focus on accuracy at all.
I went almost full ads and sprint to fire and it worked nicely for me.
The FR556 is like the bizzare twin of this gun. It's so similiar and horrible at the same time
I love that the burst rifles are actually good again. Even the less popular FR556 is decent if you dont want to use the more popular DG58. Hell, even the M16 functions better in this game than it did in MW2 lol.
That said, the DG does feel just a tiny bit too strong up close. With how fast it can potentially kill with a single headshot, it probably should not be as forgiving up close for body shots as it is. A slightly longer burst delay would probably fix it.
But if they want this to be the close range burst rifle while the FR is the longer ranged one, then they should increase the horizontal recoil on this. It could still work at mid range but would struggle more at long range. As it is now, its better than the FR in most situations, though i still prefer the FR because i love the Famas
Thx for going the xtra mile on the tac stance, I’m actually beginning to like burst guns 🤜💥
There are rumors that the MW2 optics are not working properly in MW3 can you confirm if this is true? Also, DG-58 over M16? How does the M16 perform in this "new" game?
I really want to know how the m16 is in this game too.
M16 performs well for me. But I'm used to the M16 so your mileage may vary
Same, I've used the m16 in pretty much every game. I haven't played this game yet. I want to see how it goes against the other two burst guns.
If you saw my last comment, ignore it. M16 needs 2 headshots up close for a 1 burst while DG and FR only need 1, and M16 still has way more kick. Ive had some really good games using the M16, and i would say its still more viable and forgiving than MW2, but overall its not worth using over the other two
These videos are very helpful. Thank you for putting these together!
The tac stance dg is capable of cross map kills ... Its honestly not a bad set up at all. I found myself using this build even after getting the camo
Its my go to for any assault rifle tac stance challenges.
Thanks for this one my guy 🙏
0:41 thanks for listening and addressing it
Thanks for the Tac Stance build it was really helpful. Please do one of the PKM as well because getting that conversion kit sucked and that’ll help a lot of people out I’m sure. Also do you plan on doing separate conversion kit videos or will you try and include those in your guides as they roll out?
Talking about tac stance, I’ve noticed your ads time in it, even out of tac sprint, Is crazy fast, so much so I’ll swap to it while rushing in cqc it’s just that insane
This is my favourite gun!
Not really related to the DG, but at around 2:30 Ace notes that setting guns to semi auto changed damage profiles in MW2, as if that isn't still the case in MW3. However (at least with the dummies in the range) the Bas-B battle rifle is a 3 shot in fully auto while it is a 2 shot in semi auto. Haven't checked this with actual players but I wonder if Ace is aware of this.
I think he was implying specifically for this gun. In MW2 not all the weapons had damage changes but I believe the M16 and Lachmann Shroud both did (the only burst weapons). So he is saying this burst weapon does not follow that rule of thumb. One of the whole points to the battle rifle category is that they are usable in semi auto and full auto so that makes sense for the BAS-B
This gun has been nuts for me. I've used the fr 556 a good bit too. I like it as well but 25 rounds on a 3 burst is a head scratcher. You get left with one bullet after 8 bursts.......Better accuracy but i don't get the reduced mag size
I thought the same thing. Why put a 25 round mag on a 3 round burst weapon? The math aint mathing lol. At the very least make it 24 so that its actually divisible by 3
The MCW is my go to tryhard gun, but the DG is the best gun in the game right now. No question
The true power of this gun comes from its uncapped semi-auto firerate. Using the mouse wheel you can easily pump out 1000+ RPM
I CANNOT believe that the three ARs you've covered reduce shots to kill with only one headshot. It's like they had it out for smg users specifically
A burst weapon being more than just viable is such a treat. I tried it a couple days ago and found it fun to use for sure! Curious what kind of setupds you're going to recommend.
*cough* Cold War's M-16 and AUG want to have a word.
@@42ZaphodB42 Didn't play CW, didn't like it, so honestly it kind of vanished from my memory. lol Fair point though - I suppose I'm better showing appreciation for a burst rifle being good in the Modern Warfare series again.
@@Just_a_commenter why didn't you like it? CW was honestly just a better version of this game lol
One of my top 3 guns
Will u be making a tac stance breakdown?
I love it might be one of my favorites in The game
The BSP is a beast of a gun.
Could you mention mag holster reload times in the future?
This gun is night and day compared to the M16 last year. Love it.
I would also say that for accuracy, you could put the AOK 4.0X RQ-9 Recon scope on it. Slows you down a bit, but it's a 4x scope without sniper glint (according to attachment description).
Love this gun!
The mercenary camps are at random locations every match you play they have a tent icon on them but do becareful attacking them, they shred your armor quick and can down you easily if you get caught off guard
Hey Ace, did you notice that they completely removed the burst delay on the Shroud? Its pretty much a direct upgrade from the MP5 now ((in my opinion)) you can just spam triggee and youve got a recoil free full auto on it.
Still has a terrible TTK tho.
@JohnWick-qz7us yea most weapons do now
Ace - What vest do you like to run ? Can you share the rest of your class set up one video?
Does underbarrel shotgun kills count as tac stance?
Could you do a guide for which MW2 weapons are viable in MW3? I know they just carried over the old stats, but with the new health values and ttks, what was good might not still be good. I tried finishing a couple Gold challenges from MW2 in MW3 and the guns just felt unusable.
Check out a youtuber by the name of truegamedata, he covered the TTKs of all the ARs and SMGs already for both MWII and MWIII weapons
Yo Ace, do you think you’d make a video on the MW2 weapons and if any of them are viable in MW3? I skipped MW2 and am wondering if any of them are worth unlocking and if so which ones. That would be pretty neat.
he made a video on this 3 weeks ago using info from the beta called "Will MWII Guns Be Any Good in Modern Warfare III?", so unless there were any major changes that should answer your question
@@IAmMadMattDog That was a theoretical video. I'm not sure that the MWII weapons were exactly ported over.
Ace, your intro. I see that. Nice
I dont feel like it should catch a nerf. It does what burst guns are supposed to do. Hit hard and pick off targets. My favorite gun to use atm
Soo this is literlly the Type 95 returning ironically to MWIII, what a comback
I really like this weapon, especially Soap's edt. Real laserbeam
Forgot how good ur channel was
This gun is outrageously good which scares me into thinking itll be nerfed.. i laser people across the map like nothing.
Burst guns are my fav guns too use im so happy to see good burst guns finally since ww2. I wish the famas was more of a consistent 1 burst tho, make it so 3 shots to upper torso is a 1 burst landing. Or add a 4 round burst gun for that cus the famas might kill too fast in 1 burst. I think the guns r pretty balanced tbh idk what there gon a balance but I think there just gonna ruin the balance most likely. Maybe the holger should get a tiny range nerf but thats about it
My friend, as much as i love the Famas (its been one of my favorite weapons since OG MW2), they better not dare make it 1 burst to the chest lol. Its accurate enough. Possibly even too accurate as it barely kicks enough to hit the head
@@ThatBluePit Famas is also my fav gun since the og mw2. The dg is better tho, so I want them to buff famas a bit so I have a reason to use it over the dg
@@Sideways_Singh imo the Famas is balanced fine. The DG is just very slightly overpowered. It does almost everything that the balanced Famas can do, but better (FR has advantage at long range though)
@@ThatBluePit actually ur right, the dg aint even op, there all pretty balanced, I just had the wrong attachments on my famas. I just made a disgusting build it might be better then the dg
For the tax stance build swap the comb for the Q22 tactical grip
I thought that the cold war burst guns were broken I want them back now 🤣
CW burst guns could 1 burst to the body even the limbs, so this is actually less powerful. The fast burst delay is nice though.
Idk what all you might need to do... but something you could look into is apparently some steam players are dealing with losing AA if they put mw2 sights on mw3 guns... or in general. I'm on BattleNet so im not seeing it personally but ive heard multiple people playing through steam that have claimed it to be the case
So it's like playing SWAT in Halo with a BR. Nice.
After games of long burst delays that aren't even accurate, this much accuracy for that low of a delay is insane. Would not mind if either was increased because all it does is emphasize building for accuracy.
Been getting fried by this and the MTZ lately. Just insane.
Definitely my next gun to try out
It's the most dominant gun in the game. Enjoy it while you can, they'll definitely be nerfing it.
What is the time to enter tac stance?
Best gun in the game in my opinion.
About time we have a good burst gun.. I really hope they don’t nerf it.
I like that they didn't give them that high of a burst delay. Makes these guns much better to control and reliable. If you miss a burst, you're not as easily punished. Added bonus: It's also much more realistic.
I always had some very mixed feelings about infinity wards burst rifles. They were totally useless. Loved playing with them in the battlefield games and this feels MUCH better to use. BF4's M-16 had ZERO burst delay, so could basically full-auto it. Was a cool gun.
Can you please do the FR 556/ the Famas
This looks like VHS-1. It's always nice to see Croatian weapons in videogames.
Thank god he didn’t publicly talk about the accessibility setting that makes the bursts automatic ensuring a perfect burst delay
Wait…that’s a setting?
@@Sicdirewolf yeah it’s in accessibility and called “manual fire assist” or something like that and labeled as a setting to help players with motor skill issues. You change it from press to hold and if you hold the trigger the gun keeps firing. Semi auto guns(pistols) fire slow as hell tho
Love how the 1 bursts are solid this one is broken tho. Need to lower the headshot. I think if this is a consistent 2 burst kill then it will still be top tier but not busted
Agreed I think that would be a good nerf for it. Let the slower Fr 556 be the burst gun that can one burst with headshots
Doesn’t need a headshot nerf. All burst weapons should have strong head damage to reward accuracy. And the whole point of burst guns is to be able to one burst or else they’re useless
@@furryfoxjetpilot this gun isn’t useless if it doesn’t one burst unlike other games. The fire rate is fast enough it still kills faster than average. It all has much better precious than full auto weapons with the same TTK
Everything should be fun and viable and balanced around the casual gamer who is looking for some fun after school or work. I’d rather see them buff other options than nerf existing options. Lots of OP guns makes it fun to argue which is better while nerfing things leads to shifting metas and a seemingly nonstop cycle or nerfing the existing stuff and releasing something that was balanced without those nerfs in mind
This gun is really accurate when using the aim op-v4 optic
why cant i see DG-58 and only DG-56?? Nothing is showing in armoury unlocks?
I use this thing on semi auto in hardcore and it’s literally crazy
What the M16 should have been
That gun is really good ❤❤
ACE how long does it take you to make such a video? You are really amazing
This is good. But rip cold war burst guns . But according to the feedback from mw2 , muh ttk. This is why i use the kvd enforcer, two shot to the chest , one shot to the dome .
Where can we see damage stats?? For every range
Thank god. I've been trying to use the M16 and it's just not that good for any gunfight in this game.
I blame u for the nerf today 🤣