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You missed the fact that this ship has cooperative engagement capability and operate in Joint-Task-Force mode with seven Indian P-15A and B class destroyers as well as fourteen Indian P-17A and NGF class frigates (NGF just approved, so they won't be hear yet, but that is still a sizeable fleet of CEC enabled warships).
- American GE marine engine(LM2500) produced in India, under ToT.. - 76mm naval gun made in India completely - AK630 CIWS also completely produced in India.. - MF star Radar from Israel but more capable indigenously built AESA radar is in user trials and soon will be integrated with new ships - anti air defence MRSAM(barak 8) system is jointly developed by India and Israel and one of the best air defence system that can intercept supersonic cruise missiles with high kill probability rate.. - Mig 29k fighters with RD 33 engines are produced in India under ToT.. - combat management system designed and developed in Indian private organisation.
LOL indians trying to stay relevant in all conversations and matters. reality is india is no match for China. india will struggle will resupply and logistics in real war as nothing is made in india and is all bought.
Typical low self esteem indians which brag to show they have confidence... Dun flatter yourself ... Typical .. Tired of your types in Singapore..stop coming here
India should save itself time and effort and partner with France to build the new PANG aircraft carrier, with India's hull being built in India. This model was already used to build the Scorpene submarine's in Mazagon dockyard. The French would be eager for this deal and India gets tranfer of technology and continues with the built in India concept while acquiring what will likely be one of the most capable aircraft carriers in the world.
All due respect to France, but PANG is a nuclear carrier with French Naval Nuclear reactor design. Indian Naval Nuclear reactor designs tend to use a higher Uranium enrichment level (at around 20% or more) compared to French designs that use Low Enriched Uranium as fuel. This fundamental incompatibility is intractable. Furthermore, India does not intend to stop its designs at heavy carriers of the ilk of PANG and QE classes. India intends to graduate to building nuclear supercarriers by 2040s. That means an Indian design effort on a heavy carrier is an important step before India attempts to design a full-fledged supercarrier.
@@hertzwave8001 For starters, a heavy carrier like PANG can carry three squadrons of 12 fighters each + supporting air/rotorcraft. A supercarrier carries FOUR squadrons of 12 fighters each + supporting aircraft. Another, is how a heavy carrier can accommodate three launch catapults instead of the four on a supercarrier.
As the video mentioned, India was trying to save money and buy a used aircraft carrier to replace their old one, but unlike the past there were no western ships available as their traditional supplier UK stopped building them for awhile to save money so had no ships coming out of service at the time. US ones were too large and expensive to operate and it was questionable if they would sell one anyway given India's traditional friendship with Russia at the time. And the US tends to operate theirs for several years longer before retirement than European countries so their retired ones would likely need more work. The only used ship available in India's budget was a Russian designed one that needed a lot of work before it could be used as it was built as a hybrid carrier/cruiser with the bow section loaded with missile launchers instead of a flight deck. It ended up being a lot more expensive to convert than promised and was delivered late. In hind sight, considering the final ship cost, India would have been better off building their own instead with western help. That said, they did get a ship that was larger than any they had operated before and it was a good learning experience. It also allowed them to stay with their traditional weapons supplier, Russia, for the aircraft. At the time of the original deal, US India relations weren't as good as today. For their next carrier, they went with a home built carrier. India basically did the same thing as what China did. Took their Russian designed carrier, duplicated it with many improvements, trying to correct the flaws of the original design. This is easier and cheaper than designing a new ship completely from scratch, when India didn't have any experience with designing or building that ship type. Since they were similar, they could use some of the same equipment, including the initial aircraft, which would save them money over going with a completely new design. It is at this point that China and India are diverging in their approach in their next carrier projects. China, having gained some experience was willing to take more risks and spend more money to now try to make a more capable carrier like the ones the US builds, though lacking in experience with that type. India doesn't have that kind of budget so they continue to evolve their existing design for their next project rather than making a radical design change. While there are negatives with the STOBAR carrier types, In India's financial reality, staying with it made sense.
India's first two carriers were light carriers of around 20,000 ton displacement built in the 20th century. India's next two (current carriers) are medium carriers of around 45,000 ton displacement and built in the 2000-2010s. India's next carrier will be a heavy carrier of between 65,000 and 75,000 ton displacement and be built in the 2030s. This will put India in a position to attempt building a nuclear supercarrier of 100,000 tons displacement in the 2040s, possibly to be commissioned right in time for India's 100th anniversary of Independence from British rule. ^In fact, I would be surprised if this is not the trajectory that Indian Navy takes. Two separate Indian Navy chiefs have stated in no uncertain terms that India's ultimate goal is to have a 5 carrier Navy with three operational at any given time: one each for the East, West and South.
The thing is, "India's Waters" might see Chinese carriers floating around, they have to be realistic and accept that America is potentially a risk to Indian safety in some scenarios, and of course, there's the real most dangerous nation on Earth has a carrier too: Thailand!
That would cost money to install catapults. Money the MoD would rather spend on tanks that hurt your bones, or nukes that are a fart in a thunderstorm if it all goes north.
now China makes The 300 megawatt-class F-grade heavy-duty gas turbine developed by China United Heavy-duty Gas Turbine Co., Ltd. has an output power of 300 megawatts, or 400000 horse power, 1 = 16.7 LM 2500 gas turbine, or 1 such engine powered AC have 4 time total power of INS Vikrant
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Well, I have been taught metallurgy in college and I have taken a look at the patent documents for Indian and American submarine steels. And the Indian DMR-292A/B and DMR-294A grade steels had a similar enough profile (in terms of Yield Strength, Ultimate Tensile Strength and Hardness) to the American HY-80, HY-100 and HY-130 steel grades (used in Virginia, Ohio and Seawolf classes). Convergent evolution would result in a similar steel QR and therefore I doubt there are any major differences between the steel grades of multiple leading nations. Given that India has been a leading nation in steel for all of human history (except the brief Colonial era) and given that India even today is a juggernaut in steel production (2nd largest steel maker in world, aiming to produce more steel production capacity than entire NATO combined by 2030, also owning half the steel businesses in European Union and Africa, etc), I'd say Indian steel is quality steel. Heck, even UK's top steel researcher (arguably one of the world's top) is Prof. Bhadeshia, an Indian origin gentleman and even his R&D in UK (which recently produced the strongest steel known to man and the first bulk nanomaterial made by humanity: Superbainite steel) has been funded by Indian Tata steel. So far, India's only Achilles heel has been specialty steel, where Germany reigns supreme. But that is fast changing with Government of India announcing PLI schemes for specialty steels.
@@death_parade Interesting! Thanks for the info! (I checked, and I think WD was reading straight off the Wiki for this carrier, so he may not have any idea what the various steel grades were/what was meant by it)
@@WeaponDetective Makes sense. Which is why its missing the update that Rafale-M has been selected and the contract is about to be inked as price negotiations are about to end.
"Saving money" looks like one cockup after another, why on earth would you consider Russian weapons firstly. You order interim aircraft while you wait for the 'wanted' aircraft.
lol why youre so butthurt..... russian navy is quite good, but its deteriorating technology wise..... when soviet union was getting dissolved they didn't have any money to maintain huge fleet so indians had a steal of a deal with the kiev class carrier, and plus your russian technology is the reason why many countries even have space programme at the first place , which has roots from the nazis.....
Well..... let us consider India's choices when it went shopping for aircraft carriers (and more) in the 1990s:- Russia . . . NOBODY ELSE Wow, gee, I wonder why the Indians bought their carrier from Russia!? I can't imagine! *shocked face* As for ordering the interim aircraft (Rafale-M) while you wait for the wanted aircraft is a VERY prudent approach given how TEDBF is already delayed by 5 years at least and given by the fact that whenever it comes, it will still need to be the airwings of a third and fourth Indian aircraft carrier built in the late 2020s and 2030s.
Without a catapult, you cannot take off or land an early warning aircraft. You will be sunk before you find the enemy. An aircraft carrier equipped with a catapult has a combat radius much larger than yours
in reality the Indian Navy needs no less than four carrier strike group . . . the indigenous INS Vikrant (R11) is inherently flawed by design & opting for a STOBAR carrier was a big mistake . . . the Indian Navy needs a proper 58,362 ton - 63,024 ton multi mission (CATOBAR) aircraft carrier powered by state-of-the-art next gen marine hybrid propulsion . . . within a budget of €4.8 Bn . . . there's a reason why USN & Marine Nationalé operate CATOBAR aircraft carriers, not just bcos they've the money . . . because anything else other than CATOBAR such as STOBAR & STOVL carrier is a compromise that undermines the very purpose of a carrier strike force . . . INS Vikrant (R11) STOBAR flight deck can be replaced with a new straight & flat flight deck end-to-end . . . but it'll need some significant modification to the frontal hull section & full replacement of the STOBAR flight deck . . .
I dont think these current carriers ate for striking enemies but rather guarding our own shores. Future projects should definitely look to heavier carriers with catobars on them.
@@frank871it's already too late to reconcile, bcos the enemy came & went and now they're preparing for round 2 & we're just not ready . . . basically we lack everything be it the navy or the army or air force . . . carrier strike groups are never deployed to patrol Indian shores because a aircraft carrier is the most vulnerable surface combatant of any warship in a carrier strike group . . . carriers are inherently under armed by design which is why carriers have to be protected by escorting surface combatants, destroyers & frigates even submarines . . . and that's why it's called carrier strike group . . .
@@desmond7914 Uncountable techs from Israel, Russia and France. Arighat SSBN, AESA radars, Early warning radars, helicopter engines, Long range SAM r some of them. 🥱
Not sure why China and India copies what the Russians do, Russia is not known for demonstrating even good Naval power especially Naval air power. India is improving that is for sure, Hope they retain the power projection they need for their corner of the world.
In India's case we do not have the funds to do what European or the US Navy can. Russian designs (e.g. STOBAR) are a lot more financially viable. For example IAC-2 was supposed to have nuclear propulsion, this has now been reduced to conventional gas turbines due to budget concerns. If the choice is having a super expensive carrier or a carrier with reduced capabilities but can do the job required, the best option is to opt for what we can afford.
1/. Saves billons of dollars. No need to reinvent the wheel and frees up billions for other defense projects 2/ Western technologies have replaced Soviet/Russian equipment on the carrier. Namely the GE 2500 power plants and the Israeli radar and combat information center 3/. Replaces older design in service 4/. India is already well along in development of a through deck aircraft carrier.
If you mean the ski jump configuration thats because india has years of experience using this type of config. Naturally they went for it. I do agree however that MoD should look forward to building heavier catobar and possibly emals carriers and stop being conservative.
@@warhawk4494 British pioneered the ski-jump for carriers when the RN flew Sea Harriers….. With the F-35B, a strike aircraft - with a 200 foot run can carry the weight of 2 Sea Harriers in fuel and ordnance.
indigenous： by Engine from the US, gun from Italy, Radar from Israel, Landing from Russia, anti air, Israel, close anti missile, Russia, Jet, Russia, ...............very very indigenous indeed
@@firetree2007 Do you know why it uses equipment from different countries? Because, unlike China, countries can sell their advanced equipment to the Indians and trust them not to turn around and copy it.
Do you know the most advanced fighter aircraft of Europe? It's eurofighter typhoon and it is manufactured in a joint collaboration between 4-5 most developed western countries i.e. Germany, UK, Italy, Spain. Similar things happened with tf kaan, KF21, J35 etc. Now say the same thing to yourself; cope and seethe.
I didn't know they were working on a new one.....always thought this was the same ship as the previous one and thought it was a refurbished ex Royal Navy carrier......shows what i know,lol😂😂😂😂
I mean if you make a stobar carrier it looks like the uk or soviet designs. If you make a catobar or emals carrier it'll look like a US design. There's only so many viable configurations you can choose from.
it was commisioned wayyy back way way back.... indians got a good deal with the soviets when they collapsed in 90s and they didnt had the cash to maintain a decent fleet so they sold it to us at good price.......so decomissioning the brit carrier was totally doable since it was ageing and was on the brink of obsolescence..........and for the working on new one, you have 0 clue that it will be a catobar AC , because drdo has already developed EMALS system just at the right time... and it will be more indegenious than ever with own missile defence system supplemented with indo israeli barak, and for the firepower obviously we have one of the best i.e brahmos 1 and 2 for it........
*Of interest,* given the accumulation of foreign exchange owned by Russia in its partner India due to the re-exportation of resources and industrial production to the West, despite the sanctions. Which India wants to reinvest in the country (a major importer in Defense systems from Moscow), and Moscow is not interested in repatriating that assets to dollarize its economy, in order to be less dependent on the Fed and the IMF. Which opens the door to the invoice and acquisition of Indian Virkant aircraft carriers, already paid as Indian economic compensation, as well as a way to relaunch Russian fleet in this regard at a measured risk, and as a complement to its Project 23000 class in local Russian development. The problem is the real quality and reliability of these very early developments of India today, and the final interest of Moscow in this program, or in exchange of _Chakra_ (Akula) joint-atomic submarine rent program planned.
@@avkk2314 lmao, what? it absolutely is, as long as everything is made in house. but then again, average iq of an indian in 76, so, well, that explains
just look at your own footage of the video, it moves by knocking down and up all the time, how could any jet take off or land on it?? haha :)) to check how China's Fujian carrier moves, how smooth that is
@@hertzwave8001 To what end? We need to specify what task we need our fleet to accomplish. Then, we can go about deigning how large it needs to be. Currently, the understanding in Indian intelligentsia about the purpose of Indian Naval fleet seems to be the abiliy to dominate the Indian Ocean. There is no talk about exercising control over oceans beyond.
We have our indegineous Nuclear warheads, ballistic missiles, SR SAM, MBLRS, SMG,ATGMS, etc. No need for unecessary hate. But i know what kind of hypocrites you all are
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You missed the fact that this ship has cooperative engagement capability and operate in Joint-Task-Force mode with seven Indian P-15A and B class destroyers as well as fourteen Indian P-17A and NGF class frigates (NGF just approved, so they won't be hear yet, but that is still a sizeable fleet of CEC enabled warships).
- American GE marine engine(LM2500) produced in India, under ToT..
- 76mm naval gun made in India completely
- AK630 CIWS also completely produced in India..
- MF star Radar from Israel but more capable indigenously built AESA radar is in user trials and soon will be integrated with new ships
- anti air defence MRSAM(barak 8) system is jointly developed by India and Israel and one of the best air defence system that can intercept supersonic cruise missiles with high kill probability rate..
- Mig 29k fighters with RD 33 engines are produced in India under ToT..
- combat management system designed and developed in Indian private organisation.
Entire Hull and Superstructure made in India.
Already Chinese bots in the comment section are displaying the nervousness of their regime.
we scared. as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........."
Far from it, just adding a slight dose of reality to the mix, that's all.
LOL indians trying to stay relevant in all conversations and matters. reality is india is no match for China. india will struggle will resupply and logistics in real war as nothing is made in india and is all bought.
Dude no one cares
Typical low self esteem indians which brag to show they have confidence... Dun flatter yourself ... Typical .. Tired of your types in Singapore..stop coming here
India should save itself time and effort and partner with France to build the new PANG aircraft carrier, with India's hull being built in India. This model was already used to build the Scorpene submarine's in Mazagon dockyard.
The French would be eager for this deal and India gets tranfer of technology and continues with the built in India concept while acquiring what will likely be one of the most capable aircraft carriers in the world.
All due respect to France, but PANG is a nuclear carrier with French Naval Nuclear reactor design. Indian Naval Nuclear reactor designs tend to use a higher Uranium enrichment level (at around 20% or more) compared to French designs that use Low Enriched Uranium as fuel. This fundamental incompatibility is intractable.
Furthermore, India does not intend to stop its designs at heavy carriers of the ilk of PANG and QE classes. India intends to graduate to building nuclear supercarriers by 2040s. That means an Indian design effort on a heavy carrier is an important step before India attempts to design a full-fledged supercarrier.
The scorpene experience was not a good one . The follow on order for subs for the indian navy is an open tender not a follow on of scorpenes .
@@death_parade whats the difference between PANG's proposed specs and a supercarrier?
@@hertzwave8001 For starters, a heavy carrier like PANG can carry three squadrons of 12 fighters each + supporting air/rotorcraft. A supercarrier carries FOUR squadrons of 12 fighters each + supporting aircraft.
Another, is how a heavy carrier can accommodate three launch catapults instead of the four on a supercarrier.
Why are these comments so pressed against india
This ur audience
Chinese and pakistani bots
Good video. good work India.
Stop pooping on the beach folks...
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As the video mentioned, India was trying to save money and buy a used aircraft carrier to replace their old one, but unlike the past there were no western ships available as their traditional supplier UK stopped building them for awhile to save money so had no ships coming out of service at the time. US ones were too large and expensive to operate and it was questionable if they would sell one anyway given India's traditional friendship with Russia at the time. And the US tends to operate theirs for several years longer before retirement than European countries so their retired ones would likely need more work. The only used ship available in India's budget was a Russian designed one that needed a lot of work before it could be used as it was built as a hybrid carrier/cruiser with the bow section loaded with missile launchers instead of a flight deck. It ended up being a lot more expensive to convert than promised and was delivered late. In hind sight, considering the final ship cost, India would have been better off building their own instead with western help. That said, they did get a ship that was larger than any they had operated before and it was a good learning experience. It also allowed them to stay with their traditional weapons supplier, Russia, for the aircraft. At the time of the original deal, US India relations weren't as good as today.
For their next carrier, they went with a home built carrier. India basically did the same thing as what China did. Took their Russian designed carrier, duplicated it with many improvements, trying to correct the flaws of the original design. This is easier and cheaper than designing a new ship completely from scratch, when India didn't have any experience with designing or building that ship type. Since they were similar, they could use some of the same equipment, including the initial aircraft, which would save them money over going with a completely new design.
It is at this point that China and India are diverging in their approach in their next carrier projects. China, having gained some experience was willing to take more risks and spend more money to now try to make a more capable carrier like the ones the US builds, though lacking in experience with that type. India doesn't have that kind of budget so they continue to evolve their existing design for their next project rather than making a radical design change. While there are negatives with the STOBAR carrier types, In India's financial reality, staying with it made sense.
Well Indias carrier is 3.1 billion USD dont understand where they cut the costs 🤔
It would appear that India is more interested in controlling her own waters for which these smaller carriers should be better suited.
We're also looking forward to building a 65000 tonne aircraft carrier in the decade to come.
Well, no. I think most people forget that India's "own waters" is an entire ocean. That's why they want a bigger carrier.
India's first two carriers were light carriers of around 20,000 ton displacement built in the 20th century.
India's next two (current carriers) are medium carriers of around 45,000 ton displacement and built in the 2000-2010s.
India's next carrier will be a heavy carrier of between 65,000 and 75,000 ton displacement and be built in the 2030s.
This will put India in a position to attempt building a nuclear supercarrier of 100,000 tons displacement in the 2040s, possibly to be commissioned right in time for India's 100th anniversary of Independence from British rule.
^In fact, I would be surprised if this is not the trajectory that Indian Navy takes. Two separate Indian Navy chiefs have stated in no uncertain terms that India's ultimate goal is to have a 5 carrier Navy with three operational at any given time: one each for the East, West and South.
The thing is, "India's Waters" might see Chinese carriers floating around, they have to be realistic and accept that America is potentially a risk to Indian safety in some scenarios, and of course, there's the real most dangerous nation on Earth has a carrier too:
Thailand!
India🕉🕉🇮🇳🇮🇳
i am still waiting for this Indian Carrier will be added to Modern Warships
if the indians can launch f18s from the decks so can the british from their carriers. Makes you wonder.
That would cost money to install catapults. Money the MoD would rather spend on tanks that hurt your bones, or nukes that are a fart in a thunderstorm if it all goes north.
Sure, you could launch an F/A-18 from a QE class carrier... where do you plan to land it?
India considered the F-18 and rejected it in favor of Indias Tejas and French Rafale…😊
The Indian carrier has wires for recovery. QE class doesn't have those.
I don't think UK needs it.
They have F35B VTOL
Will you also re-uploaded the japanese aegis destroyer video ?
Yes
now China makes The 300 megawatt-class F-grade heavy-duty gas turbine developed by China United Heavy-duty Gas Turbine Co., Ltd. has an output power of 300 megawatts, or 400000 horse power, 1 = 16.7 LM 2500 gas turbine, or 1 such engine powered AC have 4 time total power of INS Vikrant
whats is the engine output of carrier shandong thats the correct comparison u fool 😂
@@AshishBagade-hv4el Shangdong with 200,000 shaft horsepower (SHP)
about 2 times of Vikrant
Feedback: If you tell us stuff like steel type used in construction, you have to give a brief description on its pros/cons. Not everyone here has a metallurgy or engineering/welding background.
Well, I have been taught metallurgy in college and I have taken a look at the patent documents for Indian and American submarine steels. And the Indian DMR-292A/B and DMR-294A grade steels had a similar enough profile (in terms of Yield Strength, Ultimate Tensile Strength and Hardness) to the American HY-80, HY-100 and HY-130 steel grades (used in Virginia, Ohio and Seawolf classes).
Convergent evolution would result in a similar steel QR and therefore I doubt there are any major differences between the steel grades of multiple leading nations. Given that India has been a leading nation in steel for all of human history (except the brief Colonial era) and given that India even today is a juggernaut in steel production (2nd largest steel maker in world, aiming to produce more steel production capacity than entire NATO combined by 2030, also owning half the steel businesses in European Union and Africa, etc), I'd say Indian steel is quality steel. Heck, even UK's top steel researcher (arguably one of the world's top) is Prof. Bhadeshia, an Indian origin gentleman and even his R&D in UK (which recently produced the strongest steel known to man and the first bulk nanomaterial made by humanity: Superbainite steel) has been funded by Indian Tata steel.
So far, India's only Achilles heel has been specialty steel, where Germany reigns supreme. But that is fast changing with Government of India announcing PLI schemes for specialty steels.
@@death_parade Interesting! Thanks for the info!
(I checked, and I think WD was reading straight off the Wiki for this carrier, so he may not have any idea what the various steel grades were/what was meant by it)
Is this re-upload
Yes
@@WeaponDetective Makes sense. Which is why its missing the update that Rafale-M has been selected and the contract is about to be inked as price negotiations are about to end.
taiwan is not china
Can you please do some research on Indian airforce Boeing 707 and make a video on it
12:05: that aircraft just looks like a copy of the Rafale M with folding wings and a slightly different air intakes’ design….
That is because you are eyeballing it. It is a larger sized aircraft.
i like it
Good video 👍
didnt you already upload this video already a while ago, did it get taken down or something?
Due to copyright issues, we had to re-upload the video.
"Saving money" looks like one cockup after another, why on earth would you consider Russian weapons firstly. You order interim aircraft while you wait for the 'wanted' aircraft.
lol why youre so butthurt..... russian navy is quite good, but its deteriorating technology wise..... when soviet union was getting dissolved they didn't have any money to maintain huge fleet so indians had a steal of a deal with the kiev class carrier, and plus your russian technology is the reason why many countries even have space programme at the first place , which has roots from the nazis.....
Well..... let us consider India's choices when it went shopping for aircraft carriers (and more) in the 1990s:-
Russia
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NOBODY ELSE
Wow, gee, I wonder why the Indians bought their carrier from Russia!? I can't imagine! *shocked face*
As for ordering the interim aircraft (Rafale-M) while you wait for the wanted aircraft is a VERY prudent approach given how TEDBF is already delayed by 5 years at least and given by the fact that whenever it comes, it will still need to be the airwings of a third and fourth Indian aircraft carrier built in the late 2020s and 2030s.
Those 30 mm gun turrets look like "dealeks" from the tv show "Dr Who"
It's just Daleks.
@Del_S i thought i misspelled it...but thanks anyway..👍👍👍
Rafael M is chosen already.
This is a reupload. The original video was made before the Rafale-M was chosen.
This video Everest highest honestly astro sundar
Without a catapult, you cannot take off or land an early warning aircraft. You will be sunk before you find the enemy.
An aircraft carrier equipped with a catapult has a combat radius much larger than yours
in reality the Indian Navy needs no less than four carrier strike group . . . the indigenous INS Vikrant (R11) is inherently flawed by design & opting for a STOBAR carrier was a big mistake . . . the Indian Navy needs a proper 58,362 ton - 63,024 ton multi mission (CATOBAR) aircraft carrier powered by state-of-the-art next gen marine hybrid propulsion . . . within a budget of €4.8 Bn . . . there's a reason why USN & Marine Nationalé operate CATOBAR aircraft carriers, not just bcos they've the money . . . because anything else other than CATOBAR such as STOBAR & STOVL carrier is a compromise that undermines the very purpose of a carrier strike force . . . INS Vikrant (R11) STOBAR flight deck can be replaced with a new straight & flat flight deck end-to-end . . . but it'll need some significant modification to the frontal hull section & full replacement of the STOBAR flight deck . . .
I dont think these current carriers ate for striking enemies but rather guarding our own shores. Future projects should definitely look to heavier carriers with catobars on them.
@@frank871it's already too late to reconcile, bcos the enemy came & went and now they're preparing for round 2 & we're just not ready . . . basically we lack everything be it the navy or the army or air force . . . carrier strike groups are never deployed to patrol Indian shores because a aircraft carrier is the most vulnerable surface combatant of any warship in a carrier strike group . . . carriers are inherently under armed by design which is why carriers have to be protected by escorting surface combatants, destroyers & frigates even submarines . . . and that's why it's called carrier strike group . . .
Which country provide the most parts for India to stick up its aircraft carrier?
India - 72.2%
Answer is No one...... India has technology transfer and local manufacturing with Transfer of technology for almost all critical systems.
We throw dollars and buy manufacturing rights rather importing for techs we don't have.
@@nishantshrivastava9674 So what has India bought todate?
@@desmond7914 Uncountable techs from Israel, Russia and France.
Arighat SSBN, AESA radars, Early warning radars, helicopter engines, Long range SAM r some of them. 🥱
Not sure why China and India copies what the Russians do, Russia is not known for demonstrating even good Naval power especially Naval air power. India is improving that is for sure, Hope they retain the power projection they need for their corner of the world.
In India's case we do not have the funds to do what European or the US Navy can. Russian designs (e.g. STOBAR) are a lot more financially viable. For example IAC-2 was supposed to have nuclear propulsion, this has now been reduced to conventional gas turbines due to budget concerns. If the choice is having a super expensive carrier or a carrier with reduced capabilities but can do the job required, the best option is to opt for what we can afford.
1/. Saves billons of dollars. No need to reinvent the wheel and frees up billions for other defense projects 2/ Western technologies have replaced Soviet/Russian equipment on the carrier. Namely the GE 2500 power plants and the Israeli radar and combat information center 3/. Replaces older design in service 4/. India is already well along in development of a through deck aircraft carrier.
If you mean the ski jump configuration thats because india has years of experience using this type of config. Naturally they went for it. I do agree however that MoD should look forward to building heavier catobar and possibly emals carriers and stop being conservative.
Remember when British carriers had ski jump ramps? I do. So did they copy Britain? Or Russia? Who did Russia and China copy? They copy Britain. Sooooo
@@warhawk4494 British pioneered the ski-jump for carriers when the RN flew Sea Harriers….. With the F-35B, a strike aircraft - with a 200 foot run can carry the weight of 2 Sea Harriers in fuel and ordnance.
Maybe they could have built new harriers for the ship ?? They would be able to carry a lot more of them.
Harriers were retired almost 8 years ago.
@@rohitb5834 Yes I know ! Thank you.
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indigenous： by Engine from the US, gun from Italy, Radar from Israel, Landing from Russia, anti air, Israel, close anti missile, Russia, Jet, Russia, ...............very very indigenous indeed
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@@firetree2007 Do you know why it uses equipment from different countries? Because, unlike China, countries can sell their advanced equipment to the Indians and trust them not to turn around and copy it.
Made from Indian Steel , Design bureau, Electronics & others. Moreover capital has been circulated domestically
@@kutter_ttl6786 because you can make nothing don't be shy tell the truth
Do you know the most advanced fighter aircraft of Europe? It's eurofighter typhoon and it is manufactured in a joint collaboration between 4-5 most developed western countries i.e. Germany, UK, Italy, Spain. Similar things happened with tf kaan, KF21, J35 etc. Now say the same thing to yourself; cope and seethe.
there's a special place in hell for pp who uses phrases like "first cold war"
I didn't know they were working on a new one.....always thought this was the same ship as the previous one and thought it was a refurbished ex Royal Navy carrier......shows what i know,lol😂😂😂😂
I mean if you make a stobar carrier it looks like the uk or soviet designs. If you make a catobar or emals carrier it'll look like a US design. There's only so many viable configurations you can choose from.
it was commisioned wayyy back way way back.... indians got a good deal with the soviets when they collapsed in 90s and they didnt had the cash to maintain a decent fleet so they sold it to us at good price.......so decomissioning the brit carrier was totally doable since it was ageing and was on the brink of obsolescence..........and for the working on new one, you have 0 clue that it will be a catobar AC , because drdo has already developed EMALS system just at the right time... and it will be more indegenious than ever with own missile defence system supplemented with indo israeli barak, and for the firepower obviously we have one of the best i.e brahmos 1 and 2 for it........
People get confused because the original Vikrant was in fact a refurbished RN carrier.
*Of interest,* given the accumulation of foreign exchange owned by Russia in its partner India due to the re-exportation of resources and industrial production to the West, despite the sanctions.
Which India wants to reinvest in the country (a major importer in Defense systems from Moscow), and Moscow is not interested in repatriating that assets to dollarize its economy, in order to be less dependent on the Fed and the IMF.
Which opens the door to the invoice and acquisition of Indian Virkant aircraft carriers, already paid as Indian economic compensation, as well as a way to relaunch Russian fleet in this regard at a measured risk, and as a complement to its Project 23000 class in local Russian development.
The problem is the real quality and reliability of these very early developments of India today, and the final interest of Moscow in this program, or in exchange of _Chakra_ (Akula) joint-atomic submarine rent program planned.
i cant take any carrier with a cope slope seriously
with that said thanks india for chosing our Rafale M
China has Fujian carrier now, much better than QE2 .what a joke when you say china does not have a comparable carriers to western standards 😂
This video is a reupload. When it originally came out the Fujian was still being fitted out.
Indigenous? Ahahah nope. It was built in Russian harbors. Nothing "indigenous" there.
It was build in Kerala do some basic research before blabbering
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how about launching fujian bot
I can’t even imagine how horrible it must smell onboard an Indian carrier.
Im sure the stink of jet fuel masks other oders.
Smells better than stinky racists
Yeah just like you mom's cat(synonym)
Runs on the power of recycling human waste
4 chan bot thinks he did a funni
Nobody wants to run by recycling your ilk.
Tell me a single weapon that is completely "indigenous" in India, such tank? jet? warship? NONE.
Copying others is not indigenous
Meanwhile chowmeins using reverse technology to call it of their own. That's not being indigenous, that is theft.
U guys do your reverse engineering 😂😂
@@avkk2314 lmao, what? it absolutely is, as long as everything is made in house. but then again, average iq of an indian in 76, so, well, that explains
Atleast we do give people indigenous c0r0na virus... 😏
just look at your own footage of the video, it moves by knocking down and up all the time, how could any jet take off or land on it?? haha :)) to check how China's Fujian carrier moves, how smooth that is
Bro just left 3 comments back to back trying to put down the Indians. He's coping hard.
Fujian! That failed AC which spent more time in dock than in open sea. Nice joke
How is your nuclear submarine in water
@@kutter_ttl6786 i dont think the chinese needs to cope for indians, if anything, its the opposite
Surely we shouldn't learn from the Zhou class, wumao?
What the hell is the Indian Navy?
The current 5th largest, and growing to be the 3rd largest Navy on Earth by 2030s.
@@death_parade i want my navy to be bigger
@@hertzwave8001 To what end? We need to specify what task we need our fleet to accomplish. Then, we can go about deigning how large it needs to be. Currently, the understanding in Indian intelligentsia about the purpose of Indian Naval fleet seems to be the abiliy to dominate the Indian Ocean. There is no talk about exercising control over oceans beyond.
@@death_parade i want my navy to be bigger than india navy china navy america navy europe navy all navy ok
Do you have that much of sea and sea trade route to protect?
Everything that’s called indegenous in India is little more than assembled junk 😂
We have our indegineous Nuclear warheads, ballistic missiles, SR SAM, MBLRS, SMG,ATGMS, etc. No need for unecessary hate. But i know what kind of hypocrites you all are