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Milton McCrory vs Donald Curry
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1980's boxing was the absolute best.
All the decades that preceeded the 80's were amazing too. If I could pick an era it would be the 40's. If you lived in New York you could see multiple matches just about every night of the week. There were 4000 registered Welterweights alone in New York in the 40's. There were big gyms, boxing was front page news, and the best boxer ever was fighting twice a month. To see Sugar Ray as a Welterweight. The best ever in his prime, man I wish I could have seen him! At one point he was 128-1-1 with 84 koes!!!
@@kevdean9967yea if you was white I’m sure it was the best era 😂
Explain that
I was surprised that HBO aired this live and not PPV! There was no greater decade for boxing than the 80’s!
Donald Curry and Milton McCorry weren't on the same level of a unification bout like Leonard and Hearns.
PPV was only for the high high high end fights in 80’s all others were jot
Did PPV even exist back then ?
@@vince11harris no close circuit
McCrory may have said he was okay, but he clearly wasn't. Mills Lane should have waved it off.
I agree I like Mills Lane but that was terrible refereeing it was obvious the way he went down and slowly got back up he wasn't okay
This is brilliant how could anyone dislike this??
Probably a Kronk fan.
@@tw69hands2 or no one who didn't like boxing or don't know anything about boxing
@@danielE.muhammad7622 Yeah that too.
Because 1 in 15 people are just bad muppets.
Mills Lane is lucky McCrory survived that right hand. Should never have let that fight go on after that hook. That was scary watching it live.
Yeah anybody with common sense knew he was squambled eggs legs jelly he could barely even stand right after being smashed to the mat the first time
I think Lane took a few years off MMs prime with that one
Mills Lane was overrated as a referee.
That's why they teach you not to drop your right hand when you jab. Stunning counterpunch.
Mills Lane should have stopped the fight after the first knockdown. McCrory's "I'm okay" to the referee was instinctive. The fight should not have continued.
WHAT A LEFT HOOK BY CURRY FOR THE FIRST KNOCKDOWN.
AN ABSOLUTE PEACH OF A PUNCH.
The best! Curry rocked him in the first with a similar punch, which I forgot
Thanks for putting the whole program with pre fight features and post fight interview. One of the best knockouts such short compact punches. Curry was pound for pound right after Hagler at this point. Should be in Hall of Fame.
Donald Curry was a good fighter; a very good fighter but he does not deserve to be in the hall of fame!!! With the exception of Marlon Starling, Milton McCory, and Roger Stafford, he not only lost all his other big fights, but lost in devasting fashion!!! Lloyd Honeygan was a very ordinary fighter!!! As far as I am concerned, he was exposed when he moved up in weight. There areca number of welterweight champions that have successfully made the transition (Emile Griffith, Wilfred Benitez, Tommy Hearns, Roberto Duran, Ray Lenard, etc.).
Actually curry was considered number 1 then but Hagler was really
@@johnspencer2549 Curry got bad advice from Ray Leonard. He never should have fought Lloyd in the first place. Ray played him.
@@darylwoodard1054 People don't remember.....Donald Curry had a mental crisis, and TOTALLY fell out of love with Boxing.....This was all rumor and innuendo at the time, but looking back, it was very true.
He was weight drained he killed himself to make 147
Maybe the most perfect left hook I've ever seen.
One of the most perfectly executed Knockouts Ever!
I still don't understand how HBO Boxing does not exist anymore
Emanuel Steward was a very smart trainer. He did not believe Curry would burn himself out for a second. He told his guy that as a way to encourage him. Good chief seconds know what to say to motivate their fighters.
Curry was loading up and firing bombs from the beginning but the majority were landing and thus taking a bigger toll on McCroy than himself. Punches that miss tend to tire a fighter more. But Curry wasted no punches and was working the body well. A couple of shots were slightly below the belt but definitely not intentional. Curry was trying to land right on the belt.
Leonard was spot on in his commentary and no doubt knew Curry was in total control. After his first retirement he predicted that Curry would emerge as his successor at welterweight. Starling was his biggest competition at the time and Curry and Starling had two great fights. They first was very close with Curry barley getting the win but Curry was more convincing in the rematch and in my opinion was the beggining of his short prime. From Starling 2 till the McCroy fight Curry was at the top of his game. A lot of factors lead to his quick fall. Yes struggling to make weight was part of it. But boxing is as much psychological as physical and Curry never was the same after his first loss. Some fighters never rebound. But it is easy to forgot that for short time he was great.
Also did anyone else hear that hook land? You could hear the sound of leather against McCroy's face. And like so many have said the fight should have not been allowed to continue after that. McCroy could have been killed or suffered serious brain trauma because he was basically defenseless when Curry just walked over and hit him with a hard right. And the fact that the ref actually started counting instead of immediately stopping it and getting the doctor in the ring was crazy. Thankfully McCroy was ok though. I wonder if Steward ever said anything about the fight bring allowed to continue. Of course he could have "thrown in the towel" but it was literally only a second or 2 from the time the decision to let the fight continue till McCroy was unconscious on the canvas.
As a Fort Worth native and a not real good amateur boxer myself, I can tell you the the left hook is favorite punch in that area from virtually all the boxing clubs. I had friends from other areas and they said it was less of a focus and jabs/crosses were the bigger focus. This was the late 70's to early 80's. Gorman's team was just called Gorman Masonry Boxing Club. They trained at the Golden Gloves Youth Center along side several other amateur clubs at that time. They held their tournaments at Panther Boys Club which was a huge boxing club in Fort Worth. I have extremely fond memories of both fights and friendships and yes I actually got to watch Donald spar often from 79 to 80. Unfortunately we boycotted the Olympics that year. I have no doubt he would have won gold.
Remember this being billed as the biggest and potentially best welterweight unification title bout since Leonard-Hearns 1. It was anything but that, as Curry absolutely demolished McCrory!
I remember McCrory was being groomed as the next Hearns
@@peterkugel2631 Ha. He was a tribute act
Starling vs Curry 2 for the title was more like the best welterweight fight since Leonard vs Hearns.
Crazy how both undisputed welterweight fights between curry-McCory and Spence-bud was one sided demolitions😂
@@vince11harrisAt least Crawford vs Spence went into the 9th so no embarrassment there. Spence had nothing to be ashamed of - he did his best & survived well in to the later rounds. However, Curry vs McCrory ended in under 2 rounds!!! Now, THAT IS AN EMBARRASSING LOSS.
Ironically, two years later Curry would be the victim of one of the most fluid left hooks ever against McCallum.
The Body Snatcher
That was one hell of a match. And just a few rounds before, Curry very nearly knocked out McCallum.
Curry wasn't the same since the lost to Honeyghan.
@@deanladue3151 😂
That was a case of Curry just losing his peak prime with that first loss to Honeyghan. This fight was a blow out Milton looked weak in there like he froze maybe he had a honey before the fight or something cause he got blasted out Curry was doing okay with the body snatcher till he lost his edge and focus then he had to feel it also so I see your point guess what goes around comes around huh
This shows what a shitty ref Mills Lane was. McCrory was knocked down by a textbook left hook. His head bounced off the campus. He tried to get up and went down again. He was stumbling in the corner and Mills hardly looked at him. Lane sends him back to get destroyed and then counts to ten with Milton's eyes rolling back in his head. Mills lane sucks
Spence and Crawford should view this together because Welterweight sensations have always battled for supremacy.
Donald Curry is one of my favorites
Same here.
The best left hook EVER 👌
1985! What a year!!
Curry was awesome.
dont know why an experienced ref like mills lane was counting that second knockdown
Because he realised he'd made a mistake letting it carry on so wanted to make it look like he hadn't,if you get what I mean,thats what I reckon anyway,but yes,silly wasn't it his eyes were gone.
Curry finally in ...that's justice
@coffeeinthemorning There are definitely less deserving fighters in the HoF. Boom Boom Mancini? Hello? Curry was the undisputed champ in his division and for about 2 or 3 years he was the best welterweight on the planet. He had a hard fall from the top, but so be it.
The perfect finish. That left hook then walks in and lets go a single right hand. Goodnight.
Wow that was the golden age of boxing, not the poor fights we get these day's !!
I can see why he was called the Cobra.
Curry was considered destined for greatness after this fight. He sure looked sharp here!!!
Hey this was a great champ against a good champ the Cobra already knew he could get to him he already beat Lorocca who I thought might have a chance he was so flashy like Ali but DC demolished him so he was just growing and this was flawless victory
As soon as that right hand landed Miles Lane knew he fucked up
The first time I saw Donald Curry fight was his sensational KO of Eduardo "Cheetah Ruiz" Rodriguez. The sheer power and speed with which Curry hit an opponent was mind-numbing. This dude was the king of KO's...❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Donald Curry s Electric Sensational KO over Good Underfeated Champion Milton McCrory is one of The Best Dominant Performances i ever seen in a Big Fight in Boxing 🥊 Amazing
For a short period of time,1984-1985, Donald Curry was as talented as any fighter I have ever seen.
He was undisputed at welterweight! Stop hating Donald Curry was a monster. Losses doesn’t mean you’re not a great fighter. All the greats lose except for a few but the point is just because you lose doesn’t mean you suck!
He was never the same fighter after losing and getting destroyed by honeyghan. To be great you have to get over a loss.. he didn't
Dangerous refereeing by Lane here. The fact he allowed Milton continue after the first knockdown was bad enough but he actually started to count after the 2nd killer knockdown. This was reminiscent of Tyson-Berbick when he followed Trevor around and was counting as that dude struggled to get up, fell down and struggled again to stand up. He probably would have allowed it continue had Berbick somehow managed to take more than three steps before tumbling again.
Lane most likely gave Berbick the benefit of doubt since he was the champ and it was a shot to the temple that took his balance.He was hurt but not out. He was aware enough to get mad about the flopping he was doing ,as he was doing the flopping.
Different era of boxing.
He should have been counted out after the first knock down. To allow him to continue was negligent at least, borderline actionable at worst. He could have suffered permanent damage after the second. It should never have been allowed to happen. Cross reference this with Eubank- Watson II. Very similar circumstances, caused serious injury.
Shame these warriors didn’t have the Internet to maximise expose and earning potential. Thankfully with have Rich and this fabulous channel celebrating these warriors of old.
Was there ever a sweeter punch thrown in the whole history of boxing?
Great question.
Sugar Ray Robinson vs Gene Fuller perhaps. But even Sugar Ray Leonard (at ringside) said "you won't see a better left hook thrown by anyone".
He should not have been allowed to continue
Nunn vs Kalambay
@@michaelhughes8413 Yes that was called "the perfect punch". Fulmer woke up in his corner and Ray was dancing around with his hands up across the ring. Gene then asked his corner "why is Ray doing exercises between rounds". They told him he had been counted out and the fight was over. Wow he was really confused.
@@ksmith5325I think that punch wasn’t a left hook but rather a straight left / left cross from the southpaw position (Nunn was a natural lefty).
I remember this fight like yesterday This fight took Donald to another level ..But for some reason he never got the chance to fight Hearns,Hagler my his soul rest Aaron Pryor or Leanard....He said he wasn't motivated for Lyod ..I believe if he would fought Leonard or Hearns he stood a chance of beating both of them at the time many considered him pound for pound the best in boxing..Am glad he made to the hall of fame...He is one of my favorite fighter of all time..
He should have moved up in weight after this fight. He had been struggling to make 147 for a while . How much of that was his natural growth vs. liking to eat I didn't know. I am sure is was a little of both. But starving to make weight combined with all of his out of the ring distractions were too much. And he never was the same after that first loss. If he could have rebound psychologically then perhaps he beats McCallum and perhaps eventually gets a big money fight. Prime for prime I would probably pick Leonard, Hearns and Hagler over Curry but I would give him a good chance against Leonard and Hearns. But the thing is in 1986 Leonard and Hagler were slightly past prime and Hearns seemed to be as well. So a very prime Curry against a past prime one of the big 3's might have been interesting. The only way he could have beaten Hearns would have been to knock him out and Hearns did not have a great chin. But to do that he would have to get past one of the best jabs ever and be at risk from Tommie's deadly right. But if it went the distance Hearns wins on points for sure. Leonard would be interesting. Curry was just as fast as Benitez and had a defense almost as good. But the huge difference is Curry had real power which Benitez lacked. Trading blows with Curry would be a big mistake. In 1985 I am not sure if Ray would beat Donald. In his one comeback fight he did not look very impressive. It would have been a great one for sure.
Donald was great for a short time and other than Starling had no real competition during his prime. Some of the fighters were good but not great. Jones cut to easy and that Italian dude was fast but could not take Donald's power. And we know McCroy had some fundamental flaws that Curry easily took advantage of. Dropping the right every time he jabed made him an easy target for the left hook. He actually got nailed by one in the first round as well. It was not nearly as perfect as the one in round 2 but McCroy was hurt by it.
@@bobbywise2313Wow, you know your welterweight boxing, that’s for sure! I agree with you on Don giving Leonard & Hearns (& Benitez) hard, competitive fights. At the time (in boxing, a lot of its to do with timing too), the only member of the Fab 5, I would have put good money on to beat Curry was the Marvelous One, Hagler was just too big & too strong (basically, too much of a natural middleweight) for Curry to beat. Also, Curry often negated his smart boxing style to try to knock opponents out (eg with McCallum) & this would have resulted in a loss for Don - as we all know Hagler was not a man who could be knocked out.
@@arjunakorale6166 Yes Hagler would have been too strong. But the Hagler that lost to Leonard had slowed significantly. He might have done pretty good againt that Hagler. But the Hagler from a couple of years early would have knocked Curry out.
I am so torn and conflicted with Don. He was my idol growing up from his amateur years all the way to being welterweight champion. I do believe he was close to being an all time great fighter. But due to starving himself to make weight and having the flu he lost his title in the worst way. The problem is he never was the same after that loss. This happens to a lot of fighters. Part of what makes a fighter great is how well they bounce back after a loss. Hearns, Leonard and Hagler all had losses that they shook of and bounced back from. To be fair the only fighter to really beat Hagler in the ring was Will the Worm Monroe. .Hagler avenged that loss very well though. Leonard bounced back after losing in Montreal and Hearns became an even better fighter after Leonard 1. But Curry was mentally just not the same after his first defeat. That is probably why I rank him pretty high on all time great welterweights but probably not top 10. At his absolute best I am not sure that all of the top 10 could have beaten him though.
Peak Donald Curry. Couldn't imagine his career going in to the tailspin it did.
Milton never looked like he had his legs under him from the outset, here: a bit like Hearns vs Hagler. I wonder if he was struggling with the weight.
That left hook was beautiful
That hook was so fast you barely see it on camera.
The night Sugar decided he wanted none of Curry
Factual!
Julian Jackson Vs Terry Norris and against Bomber Graham ✌️✌️
When REAL FIGHTERS DIDN'T DODGE OTHER FIGHTERS
After this devastating KO of an excellent fighter in McCrory, a terrifying message was sent to the rest of the sport. THE COBRA IS KING!!
Could our new wave of warriors do the 15 rounds? Some now way, some yes. Look at the state of some fighters after a few rounds never mind 15!!!! Which ever way you look at it, these olds school warriors are a different breed. Best wishes to all of them.
Amazing...Curry was such a beautiful puncher...His peak right there.
The greats classics mcrory vs curry love the classics good.looks coachstrout!!!🥊🥊
The 80's had the greatest Welterweights ar one time: Leonard, Duran, Hearns, Benitez, Curry, Palomino, Sterling and McCrory.
Mills Lane sucks as a ref and this fight shows it. The left hook by Curry floored Milton McCory. Then he got up and went down again because his legs didnt work and his brain was short circuited. So why would Mill Lane allow him to take the final right?!? The answer to that question is because Mills Lane is inept.
*MILTON* went to sleep at the *HILTON*
LOL!
My favourite knockout of all time (Tyson vs Botha 2nd)
Donald Curry was one of the most self absorbed fighters I have ever seen. He incessantly talked about himself in the third person but so did other fighters like Michael Nunn. But in the interview when he talked about his brother's placement in a mental hospital and his sister dying in an accident it is viewed as an inconvenience to him.
Honeyghan destroyed curry and after that he was never the same fighter
Sorta weird how Curry was on the fast track to be the world's best boxer -- then he lost to Honeyghan and was never the same.
I’m sorry
Yes i agree,all it took was one good beating to turn out the lights on Curry's rise to fame.
Despite this loss Milton McCrory was a World Class Boxer. As a fighter it's not easy to compile a 27-0-1 (22 KOs) record, especially back then. I believe the contrast in persona may have given Curry an edge. Both were Fine Fighters.
They were supposed to fight in 1983, early part of the year for Sugar Ray's vacated undisputed world title. Steward made the stupid move to not fight Curry then, when McCrory could have beaten him.
Most will disagree but McCrory's (obviously before the KO) timing was much better in the second round and he landed a few good shots himself. McCrory didn't have great hand speed but did have solid footwork and moved well. He had Curry lunging a bit as well as a little off-balance early in the second (which rarely if ever happened in a Curry fight - Curry was always an extremely controlled and well-disciplined fighter). I think if (and will agree it was a big if after that first round) McCrory could have gotten into the second half of the fight he would have had a shot.
Maybe he would have been competitive but Curry's speed and timing was too much at that time.
Lloyd Honeyghan - There is always someone coming round the block- 😱
I still to this day do not understand how that happened. It seemed like Curry got old over night because of 400 amateur fights or Honeyghan had his number.
Damn poor refereeing there by Lane, mccrory actually just walked into that right hand like a zombie, dont think he knew what he was doing at all.
Love how Vince dicola's classic "War" from Rocky 4 narrated the feature piece proir to the bout! And also his "Training montage" from Rocky 4!!
Punch of the century 35:08
This is the same fighter that lost to Lloyd Honeyghan?
Nah. Curry was weight drained and having issues leading up to the Honeyghan fight
Exactly. But Curry never recovered psychologically from that loss.
Jones beat McCrory twice- and was effing robbed. Curry beat Colin fair and square. Brutal. Everyone in Britain knew this would happen.
I agree. Jones certainly won the first fight with McCrory and possibly the second as well. Having watched all those fights you mentioned it was clear that Curry was a class above Milton.
Honeyghan destroyed curry and he was never the same after.
@@jaydebeer7251 Yep I think Lloyd was massively underestimated by Curry camp due to lack of names even though he was unbeaten. Curry seemed to struggle to make weight.
Problem for Curry was Light Middleweight had McCallum Jackson and Mugabi floating about. That's a load of fists which can put holes in concrete. He did beat Rossi for title easily but Honeyghan had done that years before
I remember my dad picking mccrory to win . but i thought otherwise
Just to put the record straight..Curry did Not knock out Colin jones...
Soo RIGHT! Not even close to a KO as it was stopped due to very bad cuts.
Absolutely - Jones was never knocked out in his career, the only stoppage was by that cut and I doubt that Curry would have been able to. Fight would likely have ended in a points win for Curry had Jones not been so badly cut early on.
More like honeyghan destroyed curry😂😂😂
36:04 Tearfully funny and inappropriate for McCrory's entourage! 😆
That really sounded like Sherman Klumps's dad! "DAYUM!"
Rumor has it Milton is still telling the Ref he is ok
Lol
McCrory looks like a beginner sparring with a pro. Wow what a mismatch. How the hell did he ever win a title ???
Donald Curry had enough happen to him in a year than most people in a lifetime. I am surprised he came through it all and didn't become a complete basket case.
I saw this fight live. I remember thinking McCrory's trunks looking very high up on is torso. Rewatching it now, Milt might as well have had his trunks at his underarms. Not that it would have helped him.
I had great hope in Donald curry as he looked great especially against Milton. But after getting destroyed by Lloyd honeygan he was never the same
That last punch.....
Thanks for the video
Always wondered how Leonard felt about his comeback after watching this fight. Always thought Leonard was smart to challenge Hagler (after his wars with Hearns, Roldan, Duran, and Mugabi) than to tangle with a younger, hungry and gifted Curry.
My all time favorite boxer. The Lone Star Cobra !
35:27 When you catch a cramp while doing your stomach crunches
One of the most devastating knockouts you will see
Is it just the way he normally talks or does McCrory already sound kinda punchy here? Also, lots of love for Mills Lane but counting McCrory out was asinine. He clearly was NOT getting up, and really should have been asked to step forward before being allowed to continue after the first KD.
Sorry, but Ubaldo Sacco vs Gene Hatcher in july 1985???
Wonder how this Curry would fare against Leonard.
Prime vs Prime would be a fight for a minute. Then late in the fight, Leonard takes Curry out.
@@Belburg As a huge Curry fan, I grew up in Fort Worth, I actually agree with you. Curry obviously had enough power to win but chances are Leonard never lets him get set. I could see it very competitive though.
@@bobbywise2313 Curry was the one guy who could have given Leonard a go at that time. McCrory could have been, he didn't hold Ray in awe like most, but his hand injury, and lackluster performances later didn't really convince me.
@@Belburg I was a huge fan of Donald. I was an amateur boxer about 5 years his junior and no where near his level. But I trained at the Golden Gloves Youth center which is where all the Gorman Masonry fighters trained back then. A lot of different boxing clubs trained there. So I got to watch him spar a lot. I have no doubt he would have won gold in 1980 if we had not boycotted the Olympics.
The interesting thing about him as a pro is how short his prime was. I would say from Starling 2 till this fight was pretty much it. His pro fights before the rematch with Starling were not nearly as impressive. He seemed to be more aggressive and dance less after there first fight and his power was really impressive.
He was struggling to make weight for while before his first loss. But to be fair part of being great is how you rebound from a loss and he was never the same after that. At his best he was a great welterweight in my opinion but he will never be mentioned as being in the category of Robinson, Leonard or Hearns. But at the same time I fell if we just look at him at his best he ranks very high amongst the welterweights. I can only think of a few that I would favor over peak Curry. The 3 I mentioned would definitely be favored over him but it gets harder after that to say I would definitely favor one over him at his best.
Curry would have done all the work, won nine of the twelve rounds then the judges would give it to Leonard on a split decision.
Someone said Joshua Ngannu reminded them of this? I dunno so much.
Most fighters from kronk had glass chins Tommy hearts for one
a joe frazier left hook replica!!
Inside the ring Curry was heading towards greatness. Outside the ring Curry's gifted abilities werent good enough to win.
Milton certainly wasn't right was he?
Sweet left hook
I never understood how the hell he got up from that left hook.
37:07
I'll never understand how McCroy. Was ever a champion ??? No chin boxing skills of a girl? They wouldn't put him in with hearns at training because tommy had to heavy hands and Milton could cope with him. Would never be the same after this fight
Jesus, Curry was bad at speaking, I didn`t know he was so inarticulate.
Sir he’s a boxer.He gets hit in the head for a living.
@@sonofapollo5892 he was not that bad..
This fight may have made Curry believe he was better than he actually was. Started believing the hype!
Should have been stopped after first KD
Donald Curry 🥊🪨🥊🪨
never thought curry would be beat was so next nook then shit happens
A great fighter gets over a loss and comes back. Honeyghan destroyed curry and he was never the same afterv
None...And I MEAN "NONE" of the FAB 4 of the 80s wanted ANYTHING to do with ANOTHER FAB 4... Aaron Pryor/Donald Curry/Mike McCallum/& Jullian Jackson....."Straight-up Facts".
Good afternoon bro you are a fanatic like me straight facts no sentiments.
Arbitro onvompetente
lol yeah really you and marvin doa don
Honeyghan put a beating on that clown Curry and he was never the same fighter since.
Honeyghan got lucky that he fought a who was in between management that had gotten ugly if not for that Donald would have given Honeyghan the beating Marlon Starling gave him and Marlon beat the shit out of Honyghan!
Thankfully my man Marlon Starling beat down Honeyghan & avenged Curry
There were few bigger clowns in boxing than Honeyghan. I remember Mark Breland knocking him down so many times everyone lost count.
Donald Curry is one of my favorites