What a glorious performance ot "the Wieners" with Haydn 102. A real unbeatable couple of orchestra and composer with this musical richdom. It is like coming home!
agree! he was so important and creative, and still he remains too much unappreciated. Not so much a composer for the common public, but of the utmost importance for the musicians, composers, music theory and history.
I think you might be referring to the composer Joseph Haydn; his father Mathias (1699-1763) was a wheelwright and local magistrate and according to most scholars, composed no music whatsoever.
@davidblackburn3396 You are certainly right but also he was a superb interpretator of so much of the classic repertoire just a marvellous Maestro, pianist, teacher, activist, lecturer, writer, name it.....Oh and he had a beautiful handsome face!...wonderful.
I’ve heard it said that the Earth is flat, and that the moon is made of green cheese; Bernstein was good in Haydn (though sounds slightly dated in some respects), but so were many others of his time, and since.
@@elaineblackhurst1509 I've heard it said that you don't know wtf you're talking about. After reading your post I'm sure of it. In fact I'd bet the farm on it.
@@davidblackburn3396 Unfortunately for you, I *do* know what I am talking about, and only comment on matters on which I am competent to express an opinion; Bernstein is good with Haydn, I suggest you leave it there as there are better. .
@@jeffreyjeziorski1480 i heard that unofficially this is nicknamed “The Romantic”. Unsurprisingly bc I think this symphony is arguably the most romantic sounding symphony of his - particularly the second movement.
@@ketanfernandes4094 The nickname ‘Romantic’ refers to Bruckners’s Symphony 4 of 1874 (constantly revived up to 1888); it was written at a time when Romanticism was the spirit of the age. Haydn’s Symphony 102 of 1794 is an entirely Classical symphony with pretty much zero characteristics of such an alien musical movement from the next century.
Dynamische live Aufführung dieser typisch haydnischen Sinfonie im relativ schnellen Tempo ohne schleppende Töne. Der unvergleichliche Dirigent leitet dieses typisch österreichIsche Orchester mit Feuer und Leidenschaft. Klasse!
@@GoldinDr YES!!! That is something that Maestro Bernstein told his conducting students. They were to conduct this work as if they were conducting Beethoven. Just after I finished my master class with the maestro, I was touring with my college's touring choir and brass & percussion ensemble and we were in Long Island. Maestro Bernstein was conducting the NY Philharmonic that evening doing this Haydn Symphony and the Bruckner 6th. A fellow student and I took the train into NYC and got cancellation tickets. The seats were literally a couple of feet from Maestro Bernstein. As the first movement ended and there was a break for latecomers to be seated, he turned around and recognized me and gave me a subtle wave. The woman sitting next to me asked me for my autograph thinking that I was someone important, however, I was only a lowly poor student at the time. To me, that concert was the best lesson on how to conduct this work. He made this Haydn Symphony sound as exciting as if it were the Beethoven 9th. The audience applauded with a STANDING OVATION for both this work and the Bruckner!
Wouldn't be surprised. Beethoven was a pupil of Haydn around the time, and Haydn even wanted Beethoven to put "pupil of Haydn" at the bottom of his (Beethoven's) compositions. But Beethoven refused! lol
@@winterdesert1 Haydn taught Beethoven counterpoint* from his arrival in Vienna in November 1792 until Haydn set off for his second long visit to England in January 1794; the lessons were not particularly successful. Notwithstanding that, Beethoven chose to dedicate his Opus 2 piano sonatas to Haydn on his return to Vienna, and indeed played through them for him, he declined however to append ‘Pupil of Haydn’ as requested by Haydn to this specific dedication. * A form of technical musical grammar using the standard manual of the age, Gradus ad Parnassum by Fux.
There is a symphony of Haydn's, Number 96 I believe, called "The Miracle". But this un-nicknamed symphony was apparently the symphony at which the so-called Miracle happened.
Quel dommage. Il y a perte de controle dans le dernier mouvement. Ca va trop vite. Les musiciens sont.... miraculeux de pouvoir aller a ce tempo... J ai trouve tout le reste magnifique.
The beginning of his symphony particularly seems to show us, human kind, the appearance of the celestial world. Enormous intelligence emanated from the core of the piece will go far above those Bruckner's monotonous and tiresome symphonies.
Astonishingly, this is not entirely accurate; the genuine one-in-a-bar Scherzi found in Haydn’s later quartets (as opposed to speeded-up Minuets) can only have been prompted by Haydn’s close association and time spent with Beethoven.
What a glorious performance ot "the Wieners" with Haydn 102. A real unbeatable couple of orchestra and composer with this musical richdom. It is like coming home!
Beautifully played
by this great
orchestra. 😅 ❤
this piece encompasses the complete genius of Haydn. Glorious performance by a true Haydnian.
Papa Haydn will always be one of the most glorious masters of music!!!
agree! he was so important and creative, and still he remains too much unappreciated. Not so much a composer for the common public, but of the utmost importance for the musicians, composers, music theory and history.
I think you might be referring to the composer Joseph Haydn; his father Mathias (1699-1763) was a wheelwright and local magistrate and according to most scholars, composed no music whatsoever.
Rimaki-Korsakov considerd Haydn as one of the key masters of orchestration. This can be easily understood listening at the tones of this symphony.
Not only Rimsky-Korsakov: see www.persee.fr/doc/ahrf_0003-4436_2005_num_340_1_2767 (in French).
Haydn and a large orchestra sound great!
Ein glänzendes Werk, meisterhaft interpretiert von Orchester und Dirigent! Bravissimo!!!
I've heard it said that Bernstein was the 20th century's greatest conductor of Haydn. In light of a performance like this I can't disagree.
@davidblackburn3396 You are certainly right but also he was a superb interpretator of so much of the classic repertoire just a marvellous Maestro, pianist, teacher, activist, lecturer, writer, name it.....Oh and he had a beautiful handsome face!...wonderful.
I’ve heard it said that the Earth is flat, and that the moon is made of green cheese; Bernstein was good in Haydn (though sounds slightly dated in some respects), but so were many others of his time, and since.
@@elaineblackhurst1509 I've heard it said that you don't know wtf you're talking about. After reading your post I'm sure of it. In fact I'd bet the farm on it.
@@davidblackburn3396
Unfortunately for you, I *do* know what I am talking about, and only comment on matters on which I am competent to express an opinion; Bernstein is good with Haydn, I suggest you leave it there as there are better.
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that communication on the potograph... so loving and radiating: we are going to make together great and timelelss music..
The most overlooked of Haydn’s London Symphonies in terms of depth and quality.
Probably would not be as overlooked if it were one of those with a nickname. Just a number but the equal of any of those with a nickname.
How about Symphony #102 The Underplayed?????
@@jeffreyjeziorski1480 i heard that unofficially this is nicknamed “The Romantic”. Unsurprisingly bc I think this symphony is arguably the most romantic sounding symphony of his - particularly the second movement.
Yes, the same with the glorious no 99
@@ketanfernandes4094
The nickname ‘Romantic’ refers to Bruckners’s Symphony 4 of 1874 (constantly revived up to 1888); it was written at a time when Romanticism was the spirit of the age.
Haydn’s Symphony 102 of 1794 is an entirely Classical symphony with pretty much zero characteristics of such an alien musical movement from the next century.
An overlooked work.
still has that
Beethovenian
energy. 😮
Dynamische live Aufführung dieser typisch haydnischen Sinfonie im relativ schnellen Tempo ohne schleppende Töne. Der unvergleichliche Dirigent leitet dieses typisch österreichIsche Orchester mit Feuer und Leidenschaft. Klasse!
This was a Haydn symphony Bernstein programmed from his first years as a conductor, the one he performed the most.
Interesting. It's also the one that sounds the most like early Beethoven (to my ear, anyway). I wonder if that's part of the reason.
@@GoldinDr YES!!! That is something that Maestro Bernstein told his conducting students. They were to conduct this work as if they were conducting Beethoven. Just after I finished my master class with the maestro, I was touring with my college's touring choir and brass & percussion ensemble and we were in Long Island. Maestro Bernstein was conducting the NY Philharmonic that evening doing this Haydn Symphony and the Bruckner 6th. A fellow student and I took the train into NYC and got cancellation tickets. The seats were literally a couple of feet from Maestro Bernstein. As the first movement ended and there was a break for latecomers to be seated, he turned around and recognized me and gave me a subtle wave. The woman sitting next to me asked me for my autograph thinking that I was someone important, however, I was only a lowly poor student at the time. To me, that concert was the best lesson on how to conduct this work. He made this Haydn Symphony sound as exciting as if it were the Beethoven 9th. The audience applauded with a STANDING OVATION for both this work and the Bruckner!
When I first heard it, I was suprised how similar it was to Beethoven's 4th.
@@ellisteinhauer3366
Beethoven studied counterpoint under Haydn.
@@GoldinDr
Bernstein played Haydn because it was Haydn and he both liked and understood the music, not because it ‘sounds…like early Beethoven’.
The first movement has a kind Weberian swagger about it.
Quite a forward thinking symphony for the time
Amen!!!!
If I should hear this for the first time (2nd movement) and someone asked me who the composer is, I would say....... Beethoven.
With 104 great symphonies, it is very hard to pick one as the very best but 102 is a great candidate, especially the incredible slow movement.
Yes, it is pretty hard. Although, my favourites are 5. N°101; 4. N°92; 3. N°45; 2. N°104, and my absolute favourite 1. N° 98
anyone else kinda hear Beethoven Symphony 4 here?
Wouldn't be surprised. Beethoven was a pupil of Haydn around the time, and Haydn even wanted Beethoven to put "pupil of Haydn" at the bottom of his (Beethoven's) compositions. But Beethoven refused! lol
@@winterdesert1
Haydn taught Beethoven counterpoint* from his arrival in Vienna in November 1792 until Haydn set off for his second long visit to England in
January 1794; the lessons were not particularly successful.
Notwithstanding that, Beethoven chose to dedicate his Opus 2 piano sonatas to Haydn on his return to Vienna, and indeed played through them for him, he declined however to append ‘Pupil of Haydn’ as requested by Haydn to this specific dedication.
* A form of technical musical grammar using the standard manual of the age, Gradus ad Parnassum by Fux.
great
There is a symphony of Haydn's, Number 96 I believe, called "The Miracle". But this un-nicknamed symphony was apparently the symphony at which the so-called Miracle happened.
"The miracle"?? no...."surprise".....
@@sarahjones-jf4pr No, the "surprise" symphony is actually #94.
You are correct: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._96_(Haydn)
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Quel dommage. Il y a perte de controle dans le dernier mouvement. Ca va trop vite. Les musiciens sont.... miraculeux de pouvoir aller a ce tempo...
J ai trouve tout le reste magnifique.
The beginning of his symphony particularly seems to show us, human kind, the appearance of the celestial world. Enormous intelligence emanated from the core of the piece will go far above those Bruckner's monotonous and tiresome symphonies.
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Mendelssohn Symphony 1
Early Beethoven sounded like late Haydn. Not the other way around. Haydn wasnt influenced by Beethoven.
Astonishingly, this is not entirely accurate; the genuine one-in-a-bar Scherzi found in Haydn’s later quartets (as opposed to speeded-up Minuets) can only have been prompted by Haydn’s close association and time spent with Beethoven.
@elaineblackhurst1509 good point.
wow..incredibly dull.
ah, opinions; never a shortage of them.
AM inclined to agree rather boring symphony.
You should showw Haydn how it's done.@@sarahjones-jf4pr
@@jayglithero524 O.K lets go..