Not a fan of using Luminar to replace skies. It's gonna introduce second guessing every image all the time and that's really bad for photography in my opinion. Also I feel like this video is an ad for both Luminar and the ND filter company, forgot its name. I much prefer your actual image and what you had to do to get it, even though it's obviously far from being perfect. I used Luminar at some point and was amazed at its functions but it kind of made me take worse pictures because I knew that I don't need to try hard to get everything right because... you can always fix it later in post processing. I wasn't thinking: "oh man I can get here another time when the weather is more dramatic." For me, it turns out, that's the reason WHY I shoot landscapes. It's the procedure of getting out no matter what that's been degraded. Edit: Also look at the pillars. You can see the glow effect that plague a lot of instagram over processed images. Luminar is cool for amateurs and beginners.
@@deransadventures Elia also has been pushing this. No respect for him anymore. Why did they spend an extra week in a small Italian town to get the perfect sky when all they had to do is use this garbage piece of software? The sad thing is that one of the photos that Elia used looked fake. If you been to the location, the clouds would never appear in the manner he edited in.
@@FelixCervantes I mean everyone has to make money. I don't mind pushing products as long as they're honest about them. Elia doesn't actually use the software, it's just income which is fine.
@@FelixCervantes Elia has been using Luminar as a plug-in for a good 5-6 years now. As for the Italian town, it wasn’t that we didn’t have a good enough sky, we couldn’t even see the town and mountains in the distance. Sometimes the weather is so bad that it’s not about just replacing a sky but getting a solid background to even be able to work with. -P
Seriously. He had me until the fake sky addition. Not even fake sky, but a full effect on the image. The early part of the video had some great tips for initial shooting. Money ruins everything.
@@EdRode end of your story. I, like a lot of people will still tell you it's a PHOTO since you couldnt even tell what it is if you never watched that video
luminar promotional channel... youtube suggested this video, shit nothing changed since i unsubscribed. You guys used to produce some amazing content back in the day.
Adjusting basic parameters versus adding composite image elements is a whole other thing. I don’t know what he did to the initial pre-luminar photos, if anything, but I love the photos in the first half of the image.
As always on F-Stoppers, another tutorial with only one goal in place - to push very specific software. The titles of the videos should be "today we are selling XXX, get ready."
The instant you use the computer to ADD to the image, as opposed to simply sharpen and adjust contrast, you no longer have a photograph and should not call it a Photograph. It is now an Image created in the computer, i.e. Photoshop creation.
Excellent tut. Eventually all comes down to discernement. The proportions between the large zones of the whole image and their internal composition, the forms that are included. Thus, the forms of the first artificial sky, the round ones, were disturbing when put in relation with the other large zones as the water, so the choice then of the smooth clouds solved this issue. This is the final discernement of a pro.
Glad these filters were invented already. There's a lot of magnetic style modifiers like for speedlights and studio strobes. Makes me giggle seeing Patrick out in the cold like that outside of tropical Puerto Rico.
I do wish there was a location just a bit higher and over the bridge so show both lanes a bit better. But until they build a 10 story building, this is as good as it gets. By the way, you in town? We should grab lunch before I head back to the island .-P
sky replacement destroyed the bridges suspension cables detail, i had the same issue with a sky replacement on a Brooklyn bridge image. Nice try luminar but useless
My favorite piece of camera gear for atleast half the year are photographers gloves. Super warm magnetic index and thumb flaps and has textured grip. Use them all the time even when a camera isnt in my hands. But those magnetic filters are 500 iq will definitely be looking into those.
Gloves. No need for expensive “photography gloves”. Shooting gloves have the fold back fingers too. They’re not expensive. Or my personal favourite, fingerless gloves. For that Great Depression era hobo look.
Hi, you have done a great job. The sunset is my most favorite photo to shooting. Just want to know if HDR would help in post-processing giving more details in the dark areas.
Not possible once you’ve maxed out your low ISO and don’t want to stop down anymore. At some point you need a ND filter if the scene is still too bright. -P
To me this is not photography. Going out, waiting for those special lights, clouds to appear make this fun and interesting and also challenging. Just making a mediocre shot and editing\faking the crap out of it just would not satisfy me.
freezing on the side of the road for an hour or more...changing the sky because "it was not was i hade in mind"... how can you call this photography ?! thats like loosing time outside, just google the bridge and add your sky and you will get your "happy moment " and we will happy we did'nt loose our time here.yeah, im rude i know, im tired to see more sale pitch in a video and that doesn't help photographers .
I am pretty sure Kase also makes magnetic filters. Also an addition, if you cant get 'long enough' car trails, instead of a ND filter you can just take a lot of exposures, and add them together in photoshop. A doubling in exposures doubles the effective exposure time, and reduces the noise by half. For example, taking 8 shots (1 doubled 3 times), at ISO 800, 1 second and blending these 8 in photoshop has the same effect as a single 8 second exposure at ISO 100. This might not seem very useful, but this does allow for taking longer exposures hand-holding a camera (by later aligning the frames in photoshop, then merging). It also allows for as long exposures as you want on a tripod without carrying an ND filter. Although sometimes it might take an unreasonable amount of shots to get it.
Totally awesome technique that I use a lot. It’s funny to me though that people complain about replacing a sky yet they some of these other stacking techniques are totally fair game. Not saying you are saying that but I know many photographers who make these arbitrary distinctions. -P
Ai makes for a lazy artist (photographer) I get having cool looking imagins but adding inthing that weren't even at the shoot its like going fishing catching nothing going to the store buying a big fish and telling everyone you caught this huge fish.
There's no reason to use the Low Iso or expanded Iso settings unless you shoot jpegs because it doesn't actually reduce exposure, it just reduces the lattitude of your images. Same thing if you want into your raw processor and dropped or raised the exposure afterwards
A few places here on YT have disproven that over the years. ( actual testing of Nikon, Cannon, and Sony at different ISOs and getting the same final exposure ) Starting with a close exposure has less noise than a base and just lifting it up in post, in RAW. Some cameras are better than others on this but it was shown for most, get close with exposure is the best bet.
It must be something on your device. The audio was recorded directly into the camera and having watched and edited this on a few devices, I can say it looks perfect to me. Not sure what device you are viewing it on but maybe something is acting strange there? -P
I used autofocus and the switched the lens into manual to lock it. At f/8 everything should be, and was, tack sharp due to the large amount of DOF. If you had a close foreground element then you’d def want to manual focus and prob even focus bracket to get the most dof out of your image if that is your intention. -P
Ahh yes let's encourage complete sky replacement-shouldn't even be a thing. Really hate when people talk about how to get a larticular image then just create what they wanted in post. Do it in camera...
@@johnleeclair if a scene doesn't have what you want in the image try again another day. That's the entire point of photography to capture a moment in time-not using a software program to artificially produce something.
@@trevorlawson1714 I can understand that for personal photography, but what about when you have a client that needs a photo and doesn't have time for you to wait around for the right day?
@@johnleeclair I think if the conditions aren't right then the image shouldn't be manipulated and communicated as if they were captured in camera. Its not photography it's basically graphic design at that point.
Really... you too?? Luminar AI is the equivalent of Monet borrowing one of Van Gogh’s skies for his own paintings. Sky and other replacements are diluting the photography world with manufactured images. If you’re a graphic artist... okay. A photographer... nope.
Really over you guys pretending a company is the first to do something when they aren't. There's no way you aren't entirely aware of Kase filters. I mean, you're a photography channel, right? Freewell is just ripping them off. I get it, you gotta pay the bills. But this just makes you look bad. "What they've come up with is pretty ingenious" is an outright lie.
You are pushing another lie here when you say “ripping”. yes magnetic filters are there for long time not by freewell not by Kase but even before some company did make, Freewell have them over year now so it’s matter of discussion who got it first.
@@FStoppers That's fair but you aren't even aware they exist? I mostly follow landscape photographers and they seem to be becoming more and more popular in that genre.
@@deransadventures You are “ripping” everyone by forcing they should know everything. Who knows Kase even if both freewell & Kase made year back Freewell has done great job i did use both and decided to keep freewell as magnets are more better in them.
@@HITESHGG You don't run a very popular photography channel and even you knew about them. That's my point. I'm not forcing anything. Even if they weren't aware it seems like 5 minutes of research would have been worthwhile. I wouldn't want to credit a company for "coming up with" something if they weren't the ones who came up with it. That's all I'm saying. No disrespect to FS, and it wouldn't be a big deal if they didn't do this quite a lot.
Unless you are rich and buy one filter per lens size, the magnet just good for one lens size. I buy a big ND and step rings and its usable on all my lenses and just pay for one set of ND...so I can afford some Peterxxxxx ND.
Don't like it at all. Fake sky, fake colors, looks like you're in a candy shop. Photograph what's in front of you and forget AU (artificial unintelligence). You ruined a reasonably good photo. Can't stand fake pictures.
I LOVE that [original, darker] sky. Dusk is one of my favourite times
I much prefer the pre-AI image. It's awesome.
Not a fan of using Luminar to replace skies. It's gonna introduce second guessing every image all the time and that's really bad for photography in my opinion. Also I feel like this video is an ad for both Luminar and the ND filter company, forgot its name. I much prefer your actual image and what you had to do to get it, even though it's obviously far from being perfect. I used Luminar at some point and was amazed at its functions but it kind of made me take worse pictures because I knew that I don't need to try hard to get everything right because... you can always fix it later in post processing. I wasn't thinking: "oh man I can get here another time when the weather is more dramatic." For me, it turns out, that's the reason WHY I shoot landscapes. It's the procedure of getting out no matter what that's been degraded.
Edit: Also look at the pillars. You can see the glow effect that plague a lot of instagram over processed images. Luminar is cool for amateurs and beginners.
No legit photographer uses them. It's just a paid commercial.
@@deransadventures Elia also has been pushing this. No respect for him anymore. Why did they spend an extra week in a small Italian town to get the perfect sky when all they had to do is use this garbage piece of software? The sad thing is that one of the photos that Elia used looked fake. If you been to the location, the clouds would never appear in the manner he edited in.
@@FelixCervantes I mean everyone has to make money. I don't mind pushing products as long as they're honest about them. Elia doesn't actually use the software, it's just income which is fine.
@@FelixCervantes Elia has been using Luminar as a plug-in for a good 5-6 years now.
As for the Italian town, it wasn’t that we didn’t have a good enough sky, we couldn’t even see the town and mountains in the distance. Sometimes the weather is so bad that it’s not about just replacing a sky but getting a solid background to even be able to work with.
-P
“I don’t want to go too crazy as that starts to look fake”
Drops in a fake sky.......
fake and looking fake is not the same thing
Seriously. He had me until the fake sky addition. Not even fake sky, but a full effect on the image. The early part of the video had some great tips for initial shooting. Money ruins everything.
@@eukaryote-prime What does money have to do with this. It doesnt even make sens.
Its not a photo anymore, it is a GRAPHIC. End of Story
@@EdRode end of your story. I, like a lot of people will still tell you it's a PHOTO since you couldnt even tell what it is if you never watched that video
Completely ruined a very nice image by using this hideous "AI software". Really a shame
Not into this "Luminar " bandwagon some seem to be jumping on to. That sponsorship money!
instablaster.
I love the boat tours at sunset in Charleston.. and the fried chicken at Poogan’s Porch
Dude, you look much healthier these days. That climate must really suit you 💪
Like the cold Charleston climate or the warm Puerto Rican climate? -P
@@FStoppers Yea I was thinking Puerto Rico 🤣
I missed the start of the video where you're freezing your ass off.
@@FStoppers is this the parking garage by Patriot Point?
luminar promotional channel... youtube suggested this video, shit nothing changed since i unsubscribed. You guys used to produce some amazing content back in the day.
Love the photo and the use of the ND filter. I’m still trying to figure out how I feel about replacing a sky in a non-commercial photo.
Adjusting basic parameters versus adding composite image elements is a whole other thing. I don’t know what he did to the initial pre-luminar photos, if anything, but I love the photos in the first half of the image.
As always on F-Stoppers, another tutorial with only one goal in place - to push very specific software. The titles of the videos should be "today we are selling XXX, get ready."
Nice tutorial. That's the beauty of photography where you can manipulate the tools and accessories at your disposal.
I literally searched for a long exposure video for this exact spot! 😂 not knowing you were there too!
The instant you use the computer to ADD to the image, as opposed to simply sharpen and adjust contrast, you no longer have a photograph and should not call it a Photograph. It is now an Image created in the computer, i.e. Photoshop creation.
Excellent tut. Eventually all comes down to discernement. The proportions between the large zones of the whole image and their internal composition, the forms that are included. Thus, the forms of the first artificial sky, the round ones, were disturbing when put in relation with the other large zones as the water, so the choice then of the smooth clouds solved this issue. This is the final discernement of a pro.
Glad these filters were invented already. There's a lot of magnetic style modifiers like for speedlights and studio strobes.
Makes me giggle seeing Patrick out in the cold like that outside of tropical Puerto Rico.
Other companies have had them for while now.
Great shots Arthur Ravenel toward Charleston .
Great video. As a young'n, I used to take ektar 25 iso film time exposures of water during moonlight. The water looked like brushed metal. So fun
Breakthrough photography has had this for a while.
Haaa!!! I was eyeballing that parking garage in December!! I almost went up there to shoot!! Good to know it's a good location!
I do wish there was a location just a bit higher and over the bridge so show both lanes a bit better. But until they build a 10 story building, this is as good as it gets.
By the way, you in town? We should grab lunch before I head back to the island .-P
@@FStoppers Yeah... something higher would for sure be better! That's why I like to drone from there. I'll be in town soon!
Thanks really enjoyed this tutorial 😊
sky replacement destroyed the bridges suspension cables detail, i had the same issue with a sky replacement on a Brooklyn bridge image. Nice try luminar but useless
Patric looks with long hair like Elia Locardi :D
My favorite piece of camera gear for atleast half the year are photographers gloves. Super warm magnetic index and thumb flaps and has textured grip. Use them all the time even when a camera isnt in my hands. But those magnetic filters are 500 iq will definitely be looking into those.
XUME has a magnetic filter system that will work with your existing filters (and have magnetic lens caps to work with the system too....)
Gloves. No need for expensive “photography gloves”. Shooting gloves have the fold back fingers too. They’re not expensive. Or my personal favourite, fingerless gloves. For that Great Depression era hobo look.
Let's be honest, this is just another Luminar infomercial..
Well, the last half of it is, though the first half is meant to draw you into actual photography, then sell you luminar after.
LOL... cold in South Carolina? Pffft, was probably warm, like 40 degrees. hehehe
Not near the water. Try shooting at Sullivan’s Island in January #brrrrrr
This bridge makes me think of Charleston South Carolina.
Hi, you have done a great job. The sunset is my most favorite photo to shooting. Just want to know if HDR would help in post-processing giving more details in the dark areas.
Love the magnets.
Hey I really enjoyed this! Shoot at F8 vs F22 got it!!
Hi great lesson one question on snap brig I can only go to 30 second exposure can you help thanks
Which parking garage is this?
Super WOW!
Kase filters had this magnet system a long time already.
First wrong statement “Kase is Chinese company not from UK” Freewell have them for over year it’s fstopper using them now.
@@HITESHGG I stand corrected, Kase is indeed Chinese, but they have their magnetic filters over a year as well.
@@leerass so you should edit your comment since it’s misinformation.
Who made it first it’s matter of discussion not freewell nor Kase.
Interesting, well either way, it’s new to me and I think it’s a super cool feature! -P
Kase stole B. Way filter invented the patent for the magnetic filter。
Nice!
Where is this spot?
Charleston, SC -P
@@FStoppers thanks fstoppers!
I hope you know that KASE filter patent is fake,B.way first applied for a patent, and then they applied from other countries。
use a longer shutter speed?
Not possible once you’ve maxed out your low ISO and don’t want to stop down anymore. At some point you need a ND filter if the scene is still too bright. -P
kase has this for long already. Actually not a new thing but it is still a excellent video
Kase stole B. Way filter invented the patent for the magnetic filter。
I'm a beginner photographer but even I know this is cheating . Correct me if I'm wrong.
Couldn't you have just used the lower the horizon slider instead of masking the sky?
To me this is not photography. Going out, waiting for those special lights, clouds to appear make this fun and interesting and also challenging.
Just making a mediocre shot and editing\faking the crap out of it just would not satisfy me.
dont do it then
freezing on the side of the road for an hour or more...changing the sky because "it was not was i hade in mind"... how can you call this photography ?! thats like loosing time outside, just google the bridge and add your sky and you will get your "happy moment " and we will happy we did'nt loose our time here.yeah, im rude i know, im tired to see more sale pitch in a video and that doesn't help photographers .
I am pretty sure Kase also makes magnetic filters.
Also an addition, if you cant get 'long enough' car trails, instead of a ND filter you can just take a lot of exposures, and add them together in photoshop.
A doubling in exposures doubles the effective exposure time, and reduces the noise by half. For example, taking 8 shots (1 doubled 3 times), at ISO 800, 1 second and blending these 8 in photoshop has the same effect as a single 8 second exposure at ISO 100.
This might not seem very useful, but this does allow for taking longer exposures hand-holding a camera (by later aligning the frames in photoshop, then merging). It also allows for as long exposures as you want on a tripod without carrying an ND filter. Although sometimes it might take an unreasonable amount of shots to get it.
Totally awesome technique that I use a lot. It’s funny to me though that people complain about replacing a sky yet they some of these other stacking techniques are totally fair game. Not saying you are saying that but I know many photographers who make these arbitrary distinctions. -P
They stole B. Way filter invented the patent for the magnetic filter。
The original image was really nice. Drop the fake sky! Just looks messy.
Had this Freewell for seven months and the magnet had weekend to the point of falling off during normal use. Support denies any issue.
Interesting. Do magnets lose their magnetism over time? -P
Freewrll stole B. Way filterthe patent for the magnetic filter。
Ai makes for a lazy artist (photographer) I get having cool looking imagins but adding inthing that weren't even at the shoot its like going fishing catching nothing going to the store buying a big fish and telling everyone you caught this huge fish.
There's no reason to use the Low Iso or expanded Iso settings unless you shoot jpegs because it doesn't actually reduce exposure, it just reduces the lattitude of your images.
Same thing if you want into your raw processor and dropped or raised the exposure afterwards
A few places here on YT have disproven that over the years. ( actual testing of Nikon, Cannon, and Sony at different ISOs and getting the same final exposure ) Starting with a close exposure has less noise than a base and just lifting it up in post, in RAW. Some cameras are better than others on this but it was shown for most, get close with exposure is the best bet.
Great photo without the fake clouds. I would Rather keep it true to the shot.
Wooooooooo!
Paging Peter Lik!
Patrick this is an awesome video but your audio sync is way off
It must be something on your device. The audio was recorded directly into the camera and having watched and edited this on a few devices, I can say it looks perfect to me. Not sure what device you are viewing it on but maybe something is acting strange there? -P
They stole B. Way filter the patent for the magnetic filter。
Making a tutorial on Long Exposure and not mentioning to use Manual Focus is a big flaw.
I used autofocus and the switched the lens into manual to lock it. At f/8 everything should be, and was, tack sharp due to the large amount of DOF. If you had a close foreground element then you’d def want to manual focus and prob even focus bracket to get the most dof out of your image if that is your intention. -P
They move back to the US? Left Puerto Rico?
Puerto Rico is US. You mean the mainland US
@@nickdailey9889 to be specific. Charlotte
Charleston? Charlotte Is North Carolina
@@nickdailey9889 heh heh yeah.
Nope, came for Christmas and to visit my niece. Also overlooking a renovation to the old FS studio. Heading back to island life soon! -P
Ahh yes let's encourage complete sky replacement-shouldn't even be a thing. Really hate when people talk about how to get a larticular image then just create what they wanted in post. Do it in camera...
ahh yea, because you can create clouds in camera
@@johnleeclair if a scene doesn't have what you want in the image try again another day. That's the entire point of photography to capture a moment in time-not using a software program to artificially produce something.
@@trevorlawson1714 I can understand that for personal photography, but what about when you have a client that needs a photo and doesn't have time for you to wait around for the right day?
@@johnleeclair I think if the conditions aren't right then the image shouldn't be manipulated and communicated as if they were captured in camera. Its not photography it's basically graphic design at that point.
Really... you too?? Luminar AI is the equivalent of Monet borrowing one of Van Gogh’s skies for his own paintings. Sky and other replacements are diluting the photography world with manufactured images. If you’re a graphic artist... okay. A photographer... nope.
Really over you guys pretending a company is the first to do something when they aren't. There's no way you aren't entirely aware of Kase filters. I mean, you're a photography channel, right? Freewell is just ripping them off. I get it, you gotta pay the bills. But this just makes you look bad. "What they've come up with is pretty ingenious" is an outright lie.
You are pushing another lie here when you say “ripping”.
yes magnetic filters are there for long time not by freewell not by Kase but even before some company did make, Freewell have them over year now so it’s matter of discussion who got it first.
Ha I seriously have never used a Kase filter that had this magnetic feature. 🤷🏻♂️ -P
@@FStoppers That's fair but you aren't even aware they exist? I mostly follow landscape photographers and they seem to be becoming more and more popular in that genre.
@@deransadventures You are “ripping” everyone by forcing they should know everything. Who knows Kase even if both freewell & Kase made year back Freewell has done great job i did use both and decided to keep freewell as magnets are more better in them.
@@HITESHGG You don't run a very popular photography channel and even you knew about them. That's my point. I'm not forcing anything. Even if they weren't aware it seems like 5 minutes of research would have been worthwhile. I wouldn't want to credit a company for "coming up with" something if they weren't the ones who came up with it. That's all I'm saying. No disrespect to FS, and it wouldn't be a big deal if they didn't do this quite a lot.
Kase Filters have been doing this for a while. 🤷♂️
Unless you are rich and buy one filter per lens size, the magnet just good for one lens size. I buy a big ND and step rings and its usable on all my lenses and just pay for one set of ND...so I can afford some Peterxxxxx ND.
Freewell has step up adapters that work well with magnetic as well as their threaded filters, and are reasonably priced.
Use Lightroom, way better
fshoppers
Don't like it at all. Fake sky, fake colors, looks like you're in a candy shop. Photograph what's in front of you and forget AU (artificial unintelligence). You ruined a reasonably good photo. Can't stand fake pictures.
If he didnt make the video, you wouldn't have even known it was fake. Give it a rest.
Maybe you wouldn’t. Time for a visit with your optometrist. Obviously your photographic knowledge is very limited. Find another hobby.
hi
Seems like every sky is replaced these days 🤦♂️
I liked the photography skills but not photoshop acumen
Thank you!
"How to Take Long Exposure Sunset Photos": use ND filter and crank the s**t out in post...meh
if that's the only thing you remember you should probably listen to it again
Kase have been doing this for ages... just saying...
Kase stole B. Way filter the patent for the magnetic filter。
Nice video
How to take long exposure photos in freezing cold :D
who said Longexposure ? :)
Complaining about manipulating a photo in a long exposure picture is quite a low iq argument