Egyptian Bronze Weapons Vs Hide / leather Scale Armor

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    Thrand concludes his Deadliest Warriors of the Egyptian Bronze age series by fully testing all the Bronze Weapons made by Neil Burridge Spear, Khopesh and duck bill axe. Thrand uses his famous overarm throwing slide spear technique as well! Thrand test it against Rawhide leather Scale/ Lamellar Charioteer armour over analog ballistic gel torso.
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Комментарии • 79

  • @nicg1331
    @nicg1331 6 месяцев назад +31

    I hope you are doing well Thrand.

    • @Thrand11
      @Thrand11  Месяц назад +6

      Doing well should have some videos out soon

    • @landsknecht8654
      @landsknecht8654 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@Thrand11How have you been man?

  • @andrewplck
    @andrewplck 6 месяцев назад +19

    What really blows my mind is the relative simplicity and effectiveness of this armour. We often think that the further we go back the worse and more useless the technology. And to some degree it's true, but honestly, as we just saw, not entirely.

    • @davel2839
      @davel2839 6 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah I know right? - all you ever hear about these days is bronze; bronze this, bronze that...
      what's wrong with rocks? have rocks stopped working?

  • @bgonzales817
    @bgonzales817 6 месяцев назад +25

    Awesome video, enjoy the Egyptian content.

    • @Thrand11
      @Thrand11  6 месяцев назад +11

      Thank you, plan on a video a week at least I will do more bronze too

  • @allencummins9297
    @allencummins9297 5 месяцев назад +7

    I love anything bronze age

    • @Thrand11
      @Thrand11  5 месяцев назад +3

      Ja I as well

  • @gabbagundam
    @gabbagundam 6 месяцев назад +8

    Armor doing what it was ment to do, saving lives while looking good.

  • @houayangthe3rd
    @houayangthe3rd 6 месяцев назад +17

    Good to see you're back

    • @Thrand11
      @Thrand11  6 месяцев назад +4

      It's good to be back!

  • @asa-punkatsouthvinland7145
    @asa-punkatsouthvinland7145 6 месяцев назад +6

    Thrand you've done well at covering a wide range of weapons over the years. Ive been looking forward to the Egyptian weapons for sure!

  • @capuchinhelper
    @capuchinhelper 6 месяцев назад +4

    Hail! Love the Egyptian stuff!

  • @tylerrobbins8311
    @tylerrobbins8311 6 месяцев назад +10

    Nice glad to see you're still back and haven't given up. Keep on doing your thing.

  • @nymalous3428
    @nymalous3428 6 месяцев назад +6

    Hide scale huh? Wow. I would not have guessed it would have worked so well.
    Regardless, I'm glad you're still putting out videos, Thrand.

  • @mansfieldtime
    @mansfieldtime 6 месяцев назад +6

    . Honestly was not expecting the armor to function as well as it did. I thought the ax would leave a bigger cut and the spear would go about 2in deep. I was way off the mark. Still, those strikes would have bruised him, maybe it would have broken a rib. But... in the end, he lives.

  • @JoErlend20
    @JoErlend20 6 месяцев назад +6

    Great video

    • @Thrand11
      @Thrand11  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks shield brother!

  • @stuartclarke3171
    @stuartclarke3171 4 месяца назад +3

    I'm so pleased that there is a new video about rawhide armour, we don't see many. I'm also looking for cattle rawhide for a future longterm armour project, and currently looking for sources of this material, any leads would be appreciated (pet treats are no longer a cheap or reliable source).

  • @isaiahoconnor8236
    @isaiahoconnor8236 6 месяцев назад +10

    Hail Thrand :)

  • @surgeonsergio6839
    @surgeonsergio6839 6 месяцев назад +9

    Damn, Thrand's jacked AF!

  • @gotfrydzbouillon4191
    @gotfrydzbouillon4191 6 месяцев назад +9

    Impresive...

  • @asa-punkatsouthvinland7145
    @asa-punkatsouthvinland7145 6 месяцев назад +3

    I hadn't thought about it before but the shorter Egyptian spear with the ball back isn't all that dissimilar from the design of later Zulu short spears that have a ball or cone on the back end.

  • @ElDrHouse2010
    @ElDrHouse2010 5 дней назад +2

    love this channel i was thinking of names for a fantasy rpg idea i got and i remembered thegnthrand.
    can't help rn as im currently unamployed lol but I see that the house goal is not yet met 10k tho thats some help that will soften the blow for sure. Keep up man, nothing is grim in life, it's all part of the motion, live passionately, burn with life. Much love bro, love your content.

  • @simondean5227
    @simondean5227 6 месяцев назад +3

    Looking jacked, brother!

  • @danmorgan3685
    @danmorgan3685 6 месяцев назад +1

    Audio could use work. It's still really interesting to see because Bronze Age weapons get very little coverage. The Bronze Age is really fascinating.

  • @WhatIfBrigade
    @WhatIfBrigade 6 месяцев назад +3

    I really like the unique content like this. Thanks!

    • @Thrand11
      @Thrand11  6 месяцев назад +1

      You are most welcome

  • @gozer87
    @gozer87 6 месяцев назад +1

    I enjoy all Thegn Thrand videos.

  • @stygianhoplite
    @stygianhoplite 6 месяцев назад +3

    Ah good to have you back. Spent many an hour watching your vids years back.

  • @darienthevolcanoman8624
    @darienthevolcanoman8624 6 месяцев назад +1

    Haven’t seen you guys in a while, good to know you are still active!

  • @danyoutube7491
    @danyoutube7491 8 дней назад +1

    Something that occurred to me when Thegn thrust the spear into the armour was that it was stuck pretty securely and took a lot of effort to remove - imagine if you'd landed such a solid strike on an enemy in battle and, not only had you not done more than slightly bruise his belly and alarm him*, but you'd just lost your spear too! (*though then Thrand did show that one thrust had got through and made a small cut on the belly, and he suggested that the force of the blow would have knocked him on his back, which sounds plausible. Certainly it could have badly winded him. Nevertheless, you still have the problem of retrieving your spear)

    • @Thrand11
      @Thrand11  День назад

      Thanks and weapons do get stuck in armour that's why the old Norse kenning for maille armour is the net of battle

  • @TheRussLee
    @TheRussLee 6 месяцев назад +1

    Nice meeting you today and look forward to doing something together on RUclips

  • @fatman4792
    @fatman4792 6 месяцев назад +2

    looking good thrand

  • @coffekihlberg
    @coffekihlberg 6 месяцев назад

    Nice
    Hope you and the family are doing better !

  • @KevinSmith-yh6tl
    @KevinSmith-yh6tl 22 дня назад +1

    I hope you and the family are ok.
    God speed,
    I hope you fare well.

    • @Thrand11
      @Thrand11  16 дней назад +1

      Thank you shield brother!

  • @nickdavis5420
    @nickdavis5420 6 месяцев назад

    Glad your back ! Gotta test my new knife .

  • @lucianograff6512
    @lucianograff6512 6 месяцев назад +1

    wow great

  • @jaguarholly7156
    @jaguarholly7156 6 месяцев назад

    Awesome video man

  • @covodiSnorri
    @covodiSnorri 6 месяцев назад

    Intersting, as usual.

  • @psychosytheXmediaXco
    @psychosytheXmediaXco 6 месяцев назад +1

    Holy shit man I thought the Texans got you lol, glad you're back

  • @TheMan-je5xq
    @TheMan-je5xq 6 месяцев назад

    I always loved that video with Mike Loades and the Egyptian armor looks so good and I’d imagine it went cost that much unlike something made of metal

  • @BeneathAcacia
    @BeneathAcacia 6 месяцев назад

    Very cool, I wonder how they treated the leather to deal with the damage from sunlight.

  • @dadventuretv2538
    @dadventuretv2538 6 месяцев назад

    Bronze Age!!! Hell yeah!! 🤘

  • @Hrolf_Alfblod
    @Hrolf_Alfblod 6 месяцев назад

    So glad to see you again brother!

  • @blakebailey22
    @blakebailey22 5 месяцев назад +1

    Are there any historical examples of iron khopesh? What were the Egyptian swords like during the Achaemenid invasion?

  • @andrewplck
    @andrewplck 6 месяцев назад +1

    So Egyptians had guns? THESE GUNS?!

  • @celticperspective5183
    @celticperspective5183 6 месяцев назад +2

    Wasn’t a set of hide scale armour found in Tutankhamen’s tomb?

  • @KevinSmith-yh6tl
    @KevinSmith-yh6tl 6 месяцев назад

    So great to see your return.
    HAIL THRAND! ⚔️🍻

  • @ashwilliams666
    @ashwilliams666 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great video as ussual

  • @conradswadling8495
    @conradswadling8495 6 месяцев назад +2

    hail

  • @demomanchaos
    @demomanchaos 6 месяцев назад +2

    How does it hold up to other eras weapons? Could a seax or hewing spear from the Dark Ages get through?

  • @elshebactm6769
    @elshebactm6769 6 месяцев назад +1

    👍

  • @asa-punkatsouthvinland7145
    @asa-punkatsouthvinland7145 6 месяцев назад +2

    Rawhide & boiled leather should not be underestimated for their protective qualities. Lightweight tough incredibly hard to cut through and inexpensive. The real drawback is over time they're less likely to survive than something like steel but if you're equipping masses it's also much less expensive

    • @Intranetusa
      @Intranetusa 5 месяцев назад +2

      Rawhide is strong, but fully tanned leather and boiled leather are weak. Edward Cheshire performed tests against rawhide, tanned leather, boiled rawhide, and boiled leather and discovered that the tanning process to turn hide into leather makes it weak and more vunerable to penetration. Boiling leather further weakens the material a bit but hardens it. So against penetration testing, rawhide by itself was much better than leather, and boiled leather was the weakest material.

    • @6393dude
      @6393dude 3 месяца назад

      ​@@IntranetusaI think there's a certain way (or certain ingredients) to boil leather where it remains stiff and rigid.

    • @Intranetusa
      @Intranetusa 3 месяца назад

      @@6393dude Boiled leather can be stiff and rigid, but it is still weaker than regular leather and much weaker than rawhide according to the tests. Rawhide is already stiff and rigid and is stronger than both leather and boiled leather. IIRC, wax boiled rawhide and partially tanned rawhide retains most of the strength with the added benefit of being resistant to water/moisture.

    • @6393dude
      @6393dude 3 месяца назад

      @@Intranetusa What I'm questioning is the boiling method used in the tests you described. There's ample evidence of boiled leather being used as armor during the middle ages. It wouldn't make sense to go through the trouble of boiling leather if it was worse than unboiled leather.
      There must be more to the boiling process than just boiling it in water.

    • @Intranetusa
      @Intranetusa 3 месяца назад

      @@6393dude The hide armors used during the middle ages likely wasn't leather at all. Instead, it was rawhide, partially tanned rawhide, and treated/boiled rawhide. Modern terminology confuses any type of hide armor (including rawhide) for leather even though leather is not the correct term to describe it. The tanning process to turn hide into fully tanned leather weakens the material and makes leather significantly weaker than rawhide. So to use leather in any further process is already taking a significantly weakened material - it would be much better to start with rawhide/partially tanned rawhide as the starting material to process.

  • @simondean5227
    @simondean5227 2 месяца назад +1

    Hey brotha, you still around?

    • @ZER0-038
      @ZER0-038 2 месяца назад

      He's still around, he's just been streaming on twitch

    • @Thrand11
      @Thrand11  2 месяца назад +2

      I have some videos planned soon

  • @Jpgoogle96
    @Jpgoogle96 Месяц назад +1

    Thegn still there?

    • @Thrand11
      @Thrand11  Месяц назад

      Yes plan on videos soon had a few issues but should be back and up fast

  • @Odwolf2
    @Odwolf2 5 месяцев назад

    How thick are the scales?

  • @jeremybrowand5941
    @jeremybrowand5941 6 месяцев назад +3

    Hope you're well.

    • @Thrand11
      @Thrand11  6 месяцев назад +2

      Doing well just having to work lately

  • @kingkuroneko7253
    @kingkuroneko7253 6 месяцев назад

    YO

  • @aaronhackney9652
    @aaronhackney9652 5 месяцев назад +2

    algorithm

    • @Thrand11
      @Thrand11  5 месяцев назад +1

      Algorithm

  • @thefatefulforce8887
    @thefatefulforce8887 6 месяцев назад +2

    Great video.