Just set up using this video. First one took 20 mins. Second took 15 mins. Then when I realized one tire was backwards, the third time only took 6 mins.
Just installed CushCore for the first time. There are a number of videos and opinions on the best installation technique. In my opinion, this video offers the most practical ideas. However, the importance of the "Roll and Tuck" is under-valued and the use of a tire iron for "dropping the bead" is WAY over-valued. Rather than using the tire iron to try and tuck the bead under CushCore (AKA "Dropping the Bead"), I found ideal success when I lifted/bent/flexed CushCore (as suggested in the "Roll and Tuck" technique) toward the opposite side of the wheel and exaggerated the "Roll and Tuck" well beyond the suggested amount in the video ... In effect, popping the CushCore up into the tire itself. This made seating the tire much easier, by giving me the actual extra slack needed to seat the bead. In this technique I am offering, after seating the bead on both sides of the tire, it's very important that PRIOR TO "Step 7," the tire is inflated to fully seat the entire bead on the tire into the rim bead ... Pump the tire until popping sounds of the bead going into place stop. It's okay to over inflate the tire to be sure bead is seated, as all air will be removed to place tubeless liquid during the main part of "Step 7." Now, I am headed to Bentonville with my hardtail, to give CushCore a real field test! :)
@@kaylum69 I have been happy with cushcore on my hardtail. I have run it with the full range of tire pressure, soft to firm, and feel has benefits both ways. But, it's biggest benefit is at a bit lower tire pressure, so you get the cushion and suspension-like feel.
I just did front and rear on my 2019 Scott Ransom Tuned 900. Took about 15 min. I did it just like this video. Easy, can’t wait to hit the trails later on.
Gave up installing after 30+ mins of trying pushing tire into the rim. Have 42mm Rene Herse Hurricane and Diverge Roval rims. Will try again on a hot day after wheels have sit out in the hot sun for a while.
After letting the tire sit out in the sun for an hour, repeated the steps and was able to mount the tire. However, I forgot to replace old valve with cushcore vlaves, so had struggle an extra 20+ mins to unhook the bead area near the valve stem, replaced the valve and all is good. Feels like I can run 5 psi lower than usual. Will test ride this Saturday. I hope it was worth it!
Just put one bead of the tire on first, sprayed w soapy water then add the insert, bead most of the way, pour sealant in, no need to mess with syringes! Once sealant is in, rotate the wheel 180 degrees so it doesn't spill and fully bead the tire. Inflate, done, easy!
@cushcore168 Well, I can't say the install was anything like this for my Cushcore 27.5 plus, despite watching the videos and following all of the instructions! First time took 5 hours to do both wheels, and the second time took 2.5 hours! I was doing it at a bike shop, and after the owner of the shop (a professional bike mechanic) spent a half hour on the first and tore the tape in the process, he gave up and told me I was on my own! We managed to get it on together eventually with no tire levers. This was with WTB i40 KOM Tough rims, and 24nrth Wrathchild 27.5x3.0 tires the first time, and Surly Knard 27.5x3.0 the second time. It wouldn't be so hard if the center channel was just a tiny bit deeper! I'm about to set up the Wrathchildren again for the winter. I'm considering trying narrower tape that does not run all the way from bead to bead to improve tape adhesion/reduce risk of pinching the tape, since everything is TCS and the Cushcores should hold the tire bead in place. Do you have any experience trying this?
What do you do when it's installed and theres a bulge in the tyre? Wheel is true and bead is consistent all the way around. I've tried so many ways to massage it into alignment but I think it's actually wrecked my tie, despite not being too hard to install.
Can't get thelast quarter of the bead in on the first side already, its a 29' bontrager wheelwith their built in rim tape, there's not much space there to drop the bead...
I just installed the CC 27.5 Plus in the rear of my Stans Baron MK3 wheel and installing the tire to the rim only took 4 minutes. Full installation is 15 minutes including getting and putting the tools/parts away. My first time too! I didn’t read or watch this video. Just here to share how easy installation was. Just make sure you slide the all of the tire bead on one side into the well/channel. You can use a plastic tire lever. I suggest to use Gorilla Tape as opposed to Stans Yellow Tape. Gorilla Tape is a lot stronger and will rarely get a cut from the plastic lever. Good luck! Can’t wait to take my bike out this weekend! 🙌
Installation comment only: I just wanted to say that I was nervous going in on cushcore due to some of the install horror stories I have heard online and from someone at a local shop. I ended up buying multiple sets of cushcore to install on 4 different bikes. I did buy the cushcore tool (I highly recommend the tool!). I watched this video and honestly had zero issues that were a result of the product. *I did however get cocky on the second bike and in my haste I installed the front tire on backwards and didn't realize it until it was all stans-ed up and ready to put back on the bike..... I guess I got the full experience of getting to take off a tire with cushcore in it as well. This was my first time ever touching the product and I did 3 bikes in about 2.5 hours (that is including my screw up). Really, taking the existing tire off the rim and cleaning everything takes the same amount of time as re-mounting the tire with the cushcore in it. If you were starting with a clean rim and new tire, I would say 10min is all I would need at this point. I do REALLY recommend popping the extra $20 for their tool. This was a superior way to push the tire into the center channel on the rim and get that last part of the tire bead over the rim. Bottom line: don't let these install horror stories scare you. If you follow the directions (and, willing to spend an extra $20 on a new bike tool) you will NOT have any problems.
After spending about 1.5 hours trying to put tire on rim, I decided to look for better tire levers whereupon I came across the $20 cushcore tool. The trick to the install is to push that tire bead off of the edge of the rim and towards the center of the rim. Because the center of the rim is a smaller diameter than the edge, there is more space to seat the remaining portion of the tire. The $20 tool describes pushing tire to center of rim. I feel this video should be revised/edited to add this step to seating a tire. Note: after pushing both sides of tire to center of rim, I was able to seat tire in about 5 minutes. I seated tire with my old tire levers and didn’t need the $20 tool. All I needed was the information from the $20 tool description
Holy moly, this helps. I just installed my first cushcore insert. It took me 15 minutes or so, and I'm pretty sure that if I hadn't watched this video, it would've taken me 10 times that.
I've heard nightmare stories, but I had no issues. I didn't have a round bin, but had a cane clothes basket that worked perfectly. Put an old towel over the top and away we go. Very useful vid.
@@jamesprice3440 Maybe it's dependent on your rim and tyre combo. I was installing for DTSwiss rims and Wild Enduro 2.4 tyres with lots of soapy water. Shame to hear you had a crap experience.
Great video, I know this could be frustrating. That unit I literally gave up and took it to the bike shop. The secret weapon/tool here is literally the garbage can bahahaha. Boy did I felt stupid 🤦🏻♂️ Just became a customer so let’s see how it goes. I wish the air valves would come in different colors, or at least in black. Kinda pricey but you get what you pay for, right!? So expecting good results 🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽 Thank you!
Installing was really friendly following the video. I can't seem to find a way to inflate the tires (27.5 Carbon Santa Cruz), the air is leaking all around the rim. Any tips please?
Tried installing 27.5” Butcher DH onto my DT 560 rims. Can’t get the ‘ drop the bead’ technique to work. Gave up after an hour. Maybe I’ll try a tyre with less stiff casing. If I’m racing DH and replacing tyres when they tear up then I may not find this worth the hassle. I know these tyres are always tight too, I always resort to using tyre levers before
We have installed this combo without difficulty, but I understand it can be tricky until you see it done. Would you like to send one in for a videotaped demo install?
Don't know what I was doing wrong, but I couldn't get the bead opposite the final section to sit offset to the centre, just kept popping out. My arms are so tyred i dropped the valve cap 3 times trying to fit it.
Just fitted my first Cushcore. Fitting inside a Magic Mary on a Stans Arch rim. It was tricky in parts, but the video was a good help. it took 20 minutes in total. Make sure you have good (metal) tyre levers and then follow the video, and it's no major issue.
have followed this and there is not way they are going on broke 3 tire levers and not even close to fitting no wonder i see guys with riding with bald tires using cushcore they dont want do have to start all over again these are still in the garage i bought different ones and they have been perfect
The slot/groove is a sealant channel for the sealant to travel through the tire when it's added through the valve. It can help distribute the sealant quicker if it's near the valve, but it doesn't need to be where the valve is for the sealant to get mixed in.
If I HAD Cushcore, it would've saved the tire I just got a pinch flat in 2 weeks ago. It's OK I guess because I now have a nicer tire (DHR2), but I want to install this NOW to save my newer more expensive tires. One thing though, do you HAVE TO use THEIR valves? I have nice orange Stan's valves I put in. Why couldn't I use those with Cushcore? ~JSV
For some reason I am having a hard time getting the sealant into the tire with cushcore installed. The first try ended with sealant spraying everywhere. Any tips?
What sealant are you using? There might be a clog in the injector or the valve. Make sure it’s clear, then position the valve at 3:00 so the sealant flows downhill. It should not require pressure to inject the sealant.
Adam Krefting ethirteen tire plasma. A clogged valve was the first thing that came to my mind as well. Weird thing: it happened on both tires. I can still easily inflate them tho. So I am starting to think it’s the sealant itself that’s causing the problem
CushCore will fit asymmetric rims and we recommend starting with the bead furthest from the rim channel for installation. This leaves the final bead right next to the rim channel and will make it easier to drop the bead in the rim channel to finish off your install.
I’ve spent a good hour on this install and I just can’t seem to get the final part of the bead onto the rim. I’ll try it with the help of my friends tommorow I guess🤷♂️
The most important step to get the final part on is making sure the bead is dropped in the rim channel. When you look at the bead you should see a gap between the rim wall and the tire bead. If the tire bead is still touching the rim wall then it has not been properly dropped in the rim channel. After taking 1 or 2 more bites with your tire lever you may need to circle the tire and push down the bead again. Remember to push straight down with tire lever, don't try and tuck it under the insert at an angle.
I find getting it on is easy enough, especially past the first go, but then I find that with the bead pushed into the middle it won't inflate, and tips on how to get the bead back to the rim without a compressor?
Should I only use the Tubeless Air Valves from Cushcore, or can I use my Milk-its too? Update/Edit: Got a Quick answer from the Support: No: "CushCore valves have holes on the sides of the valve that allow air to flow through the rim channel. Most tubeless valves only have a hole on top that sits against the insert and gets plugged making inflation difficult. We highly recommend using CushCore valves."
Awesome video! I just installed my new CushCore set with the help of this video and It is not NEARLY as difficult as people make it out to be. It was no more difficult to install than any downhill casing tire.
The key is pushing the tire beads toward the middle of the rim instead of where it sits normally. It will give you the slack you need to finish. Not much harder than mounting a tire without cushcore.
I did that but because the beads were pushed into the center, they wouldn’t seat. I ended up using the cushcore tire lever to try and get the bead back in its seat and messed up the rim tape (same thing happened on both tires). Heading to a shop tomorrow $$$
Just failed the 2nd time because the rim tape got punctured while I was putting the tyre and cushcore on. You guys should make a machine for this. I would definitely buy it.
quote on another site, i found it to be fairly accurate with respect to maxxis ardent exo tubeless, apparently using new tires and soaping the inside helps /mandatory with maxxis if you want to avoid problems... mine rubbed through my frame (Al crack) after checking initially and it was fine...I obvs should have kept a closer eye on it after install: "Everyone will assume you did it wrong, which is irritating AF, but what no one will tell you is that some tires suck. If you are using a Maxxis tire, note that their tires have a rough, textured inside, and the Cushcore won't slip into place as easily as a tire with smooth insides. The Cushcore guys also told me that there are some runs of Maxxis tires that simply are not straight, right out of the box, and lo behold, that was the case with mine. Also, don't even try to mount them in used tires, the dried sealant prevents them from sliding into place. (wait for the Maxxis tifosi to scream and break out the lynching ropes...) The real trick is to soap up the inside of the tire, soap the cushcore, mount the sucker EXACTLY like the Cushcore video, use a brand new tire with slick guts inside, and then be prepared to do it a couple of times and then you'll be super stoked.
Vorab Maxxis Reifen sitzen von Natur aus sehr eng an und sind nicht die einfachsten Reifen zum aufziehen. Erster Einbau: 4h, 6 zerbrochene Reifenheber, 1 an der Wulst ausgeleiherter Reifen, blutige Hände, aber immerhin der zweite war drauf. Zweiter Einbau: 40min für 1 Reifen mit gaaaaaanz viel Spülli, einer Tonne wie im Video UND Kabelbinder um den Reifen in der Felgenmitte zu halten, Reifenheber sind noch alle ganz Einbau ging diesmal easy, also nur noch mit Kabelbinder damit er nicht aus der Mitte rutscht. Aber das System ist top, selbst ohne Luft kann man noch fahren und nichts kommt mehr bis zur Felge auch bei Treppen mit zu wenig Luft nicht =) Aber wenn die Milch mal nichts bringt ist nichts mit unterwegs mal nen Schlauch reinziehen das kann man von vornherein vergessen.
Guy makes it look easy. if I was making the video it would look like I was wrestling a alligator for 45 mins .think trick is roll tuck them push it down with tyre levee go round rim few times with lever
I bought the emtb cushcore last week. Spent a whole afternoon trying to get the front wheel done. One bead took 3 hours. Broke 6 levers. I watched every single video including cushcore official vid. Called local bike shop to buy steel core levers, figured I’d ask how much they charge to just finish the job. They said $60 bucks, half hour turnaround. I get down there and then the said $60 EACH. Ok I guess thats acceptable. Oh and btw two days turnaround time. Then I drive home and the tech calls me back and says he can’t get them on, makes an excuse about I need a whole new tire. I go to pick them up to find out he UNdid the front wheel that took me all day to do. So now after having a “pro” take a crack at it, I am right back where I started minus one front wheel 85% done. This has been a nightmare. I have one cc bead bro showing up today from amazon. I know you need two AND you probably need the official CC lever. This is turning into a giant fiasco. I really hope they are worth it. They were recommended by a friend I trust so we shall see
just buy a tannus insert. way easier. im running a tannus on the front of my DH bike and a cushcore in the rear ( which i bought out of frustration at a bike park before i bought the tannus) and the cush core is always a royal pain in the ass and the tannus is always super easy
I’ve been riding for 40+ yrs. Struggled for way too long trying to get this working. Ruined rim tape and the bead on a brand new tire. 150 USD for two piece of foam and the world’s ugliest valve stems. I gave up.
And for people complaining that it's too hard to install. Here's a video of installing, with sealant and 25PSI, under 60 seconds. ruclips.net/user/shortsYaCQlfHcZrs 😘
BuIIsh**t. I just picked up a set of these and regret it. Not only are they extremely overpriced but getting them in or out is ridiculous. This video makes it seem like it’s not so bad but it’s a lie. I worked as a mechanic and this was a tire install from hell. You should never have to use tire levers to install a tire. Getting one side of the bead on the rim is extremely painful, getting the other side on is 10x worse. It’s no wonder they fast forward through that part in this video. I’m going to guess they are using a super wide and well used tire just to make it easier in their video too. Personally I was seating a brand new 2.4” DHR II MAXGRIP DD and it was absurd. I was stubborn so I didn’t stop until it was on but even that I regret because I’m sure it won’t even be easy to get out. The inserts are so wide they push the sidewalls out which makes it extremely difficult to get the bead off the rim. On that note, it probably makes your sidewalks more susceptible to damage since they can’t flex as well when getting pushed through tight spots. Of course that’s just an assumption. I put the second insert up for sale as soon as I got home. It feels like I have been scammed into buying a useless product that can actually cause more harm than good. I wish this was the review that I read before buying so that I could think twice about it. Don’t do it.
@@cushcore I"m good at tuning bikes, not making vids! But, my difference to yours is. (i do this with ALL insert brands and rim/tire combos) 1. Install Appropriate valve for insert. 2 Install the tire dry and fully seat the beads, this allows for inspection of air leaks and assure the rim tape is secured 3. Remove valve core 4. unseat whichever bead is going to be easy to install again. (asymmetric channeled rims WTB and Ibis mostly take note) 5. Install CushCore insert (and dump sealant in if you're good at the next step without making a mess) 6. Starting opposite the valve, tuck the bead exactly in the method in your video, sans soapy water. 7. Squirt sealant in valve, install core, inflate. A few tips to increase efficiency: Prestretch CushCore as you would a tubular tire. When you tuck the bead at the valve, have an NRS or toeclip strap to hold the bead there while you work towards the valve. IF you're scooping sealant in prior to installed bead, scoop it in opposite the valve, and keep that side pointed downwards so you don't spill. First try this way was under 10 minutes. Fastest time on a good day (i had installed 10 pairs of CushCore inserts that day) was 1:19 starting with a dry tire and pre-taped rim. Was under 5 minutes for the pair.
I would like to add, the main reasons for doing this is two fold. You only have to deal with tucking one bead instead of two. Having the one bead seated gives you a few extra millimeters to play with when you have the tuck the remaining bead into the channel.
Good question Sion. That's where our bead dropper tool tends to help. It's not mandatory but it definitely helps put a little extra force on the bead to push the other side out of the way.
@@cushcore690 Thanks for replying. It's impossible with a DH casing Maxxis DHR2, the bead is way too tight to move. I think the only way will be to seat the tire without cushcore, then remove one bead, insert the cushcore, then the opposite bead should be fully out of the way. I will try this week.
Not as easy as the skinny hipster dude makes it out to be. Took me more than one hour to get the front tire mounted (Stan’s rim) yet only five minutes to get the rear mounted (HED rim). Clearly at this point USA = 0; Belgium = 1. BTW this was with 700c inserts designed for 35mm+ tires (mine are Panaracer Gravelking SK 700 x 38). Anyway, my hands are blistered AF with some seeping wounds. I can only imagine that this process is 75% easier with regular high volume MTB tires on wide rims.
Lies, Lies, Lies. This is the hardest thing I have tried to install on my bike. Over an hour into it and I have broken 3 levers and will have to take it to a bike shop. It is impossible to get the tires on. I did every trick in every video I watched and it still would not seat the tire.
@@donaldriddle7138 The bike shop in Los Angeles charges insane fees for basic work. I was able to get the tires on except for one side that I got on over 3/4 of the way. Then the crush core tool broke so I took it to the bike shop. They charged me $10 for 5 min or less of work. Half the cost of buying another tool and the full amount of minimum wage for an hour.
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Did it today, actually very straight forward.
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Y’all made this look way to easy, I just did it for my (I’m counting) 18th time, and still want to chuck a wheel at the end
Yup
Thank you for the tip to push the bead into the center of the wheel. That made all the difference and you’re the only person to suggest it! Thank you
Been putting one tire on for 2 hours and didn’t get it on so took it down to my local shop
I appreciate what you guys are trying to do here but this video is way over produced. All of the swearing is been deleted. Very unrealistic.
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🤣 I know what you mean 🤦🏻♂️
Just set up using this video. First one took 20 mins. Second took 15 mins. Then when I realized one tire was backwards, the third time only took 6 mins.
Ive done that a few times haha
That's good practice 😂
Me to
Instablaster.
Just installed CushCore for the first time. There are a number of videos and opinions on the best installation technique. In my opinion, this video offers the most practical ideas. However, the importance of the "Roll and Tuck" is under-valued and the use of a tire iron for "dropping the bead" is WAY over-valued.
Rather than using the tire iron to try and tuck the bead under CushCore (AKA "Dropping the Bead"), I found ideal success when I lifted/bent/flexed CushCore (as suggested in the "Roll and Tuck" technique) toward the opposite side of the wheel and exaggerated the "Roll and Tuck" well beyond the suggested amount in the video ... In effect, popping the CushCore up into the tire itself. This made seating the tire much easier, by giving me the actual extra slack needed to seat the bead.
In this technique I am offering, after seating the bead on both sides of the tire, it's very important that PRIOR TO "Step 7," the tire is inflated to fully seat the entire bead on the tire into the rim bead ... Pump the tire until popping sounds of the bead going into place stop. It's okay to over inflate the tire to be sure bead is seated, as all air will be removed to place tubeless liquid during the main part of "Step 7."
Now, I am headed to Bentonville with my hardtail, to give CushCore a real field test! :)
How is it? I'm considering buying it for my hardtail... Hoping it gives me more comfort and control.
@@kaylum69 I have been happy with cushcore on my hardtail. I have run it with the full range of tire pressure, soft to firm, and feel has benefits both ways. But, it's biggest benefit is at a bit lower tire pressure, so you get the cushion and suspension-like feel.
Done this a few times now. And the most important part is the dropping the bead step. It makes it so much easier
I just did front and rear on my 2019 Scott Ransom Tuned 900. Took about 15 min. I did it just like this video. Easy, can’t wait to hit the trails later on.
Prepping for my first CC install ... really helpful tips - thank you
Gave up installing after 30+ mins of trying pushing tire into the rim. Have 42mm Rene Herse Hurricane and Diverge Roval rims. Will try again on a hot day after wheels have sit out in the hot sun for a while.
After letting the tire sit out in the sun for an hour, repeated the steps and was able to mount the tire. However, I forgot to replace old valve with cushcore vlaves, so had struggle an extra 20+ mins to unhook the bead area near the valve stem, replaced the valve and all is good. Feels like I can run 5 psi lower than usual. Will test ride this Saturday. I hope it was worth it!
Just put one bead of the tire on first, sprayed w soapy water then add the insert, bead most of the way, pour sealant in, no need to mess with syringes! Once sealant is in, rotate the wheel 180 degrees so it doesn't spill and fully bead the tire. Inflate, done, easy!
@cushcore168 Well, I can't say the install was anything like this for my Cushcore 27.5 plus, despite watching the videos and following all of the instructions! First time took 5 hours to do both wheels, and the second time took 2.5 hours! I was doing it at a bike shop, and after the owner of the shop (a professional bike mechanic) spent a half hour on the first and tore the tape in the process, he gave up and told me I was on my own! We managed to get it on together eventually with no tire levers.
This was with WTB i40 KOM Tough rims, and 24nrth Wrathchild 27.5x3.0 tires the first time, and Surly Knard 27.5x3.0 the second time. It wouldn't be so hard if the center channel was just a tiny bit deeper!
I'm about to set up the Wrathchildren again for the winter. I'm considering trying narrower tape that does not run all the way from bead to bead to improve tape adhesion/reduce risk of pinching the tape, since everything is TCS and the Cushcores should hold the tire bead in place. Do you have any experience trying this?
Sweet. Should make for an 'easy' install. Look forward to giving it a go. It looks easier than a bib mousse, that's for sure!!!!
Absolute breeze to instal using these steps. Great video!
What do you do when it's installed and theres a bulge in the tyre? Wheel is true and bead is consistent all the way around. I've tried so many ways to massage it into alignment but I think it's actually wrecked my tie, despite not being too hard to install.
Thanks! Straight Forward and easy! Works perfectly
1u30 later, still not installed on both sides and i broke 4 tire levers...
Broke the Cushcore lever and ended up puncturing the rim tape on both wheels. Uncool.
@@briancarlcain14 Don't give up! riding one year on cushcore now and i love it! The installation is not easy though.
Got a wheel wobble buy true wheel should I let sir out and go round rim with tyre lever to try drop bead further down
Cuantos psi para una rueda de 29”
I watched the video and installed the cush core in no time flat. Probably close to the same time as a tire only install. It was easy
thank you for the tip !
Can't get thelast quarter of the bead in on the first side already, its a 29' bontrager wheelwith their built in rim tape, there's not much space there to drop the bead...
Made it work, had ro rip out the original fim tape and tape in a new one
I just installed the CC 27.5 Plus in the rear of my Stans Baron MK3 wheel and installing the tire to the rim only took 4 minutes. Full installation is 15 minutes including getting and putting the tools/parts away. My first time too! I didn’t read or watch this video. Just here to share how easy installation was. Just make sure you slide the all of the tire bead on one side into the well/channel. You can use a plastic tire lever. I suggest to use Gorilla Tape as opposed to Stans Yellow Tape. Gorilla Tape is a lot stronger and will rarely get a cut from the plastic lever.
Good luck! Can’t wait to take my bike out this weekend! 🙌
"Just make sure you slide the tire bead into the well/channel." YES...that's the key! Thanks for posting Tjay, enjoy your CushCores!
Now try with wired-on tyre
How many oz of sealant should I use per wheel?
Installation comment only:
I just wanted to say that I was nervous going in on cushcore due to some of the install horror stories I have heard online and from someone at a local shop. I ended up buying multiple sets of cushcore to install on 4 different bikes. I did buy the cushcore tool (I highly recommend the tool!). I watched this video and honestly had zero issues that were a result of the product. *I did however get cocky on the second bike and in my haste I installed the front tire on backwards and didn't realize it until it was all stans-ed up and ready to put back on the bike..... I guess I got the full experience of getting to take off a tire with cushcore in it as well. This was my first time ever touching the product and I did 3 bikes in about 2.5 hours (that is including my screw up). Really, taking the existing tire off the rim and cleaning everything takes the same amount of time as re-mounting the tire with the cushcore in it. If you were starting with a clean rim and new tire, I would say 10min is all I would need at this point. I do REALLY recommend popping the extra $20 for their tool. This was a superior way to push the tire into the center channel on the rim and get that last part of the tire bead over the rim.
Bottom line: don't let these install horror stories scare you. If you follow the directions (and, willing to spend an extra $20 on a new bike tool) you will NOT have any problems.
After spending about 1.5 hours trying to put tire on rim, I decided to look for better tire levers whereupon I came across the $20 cushcore tool. The trick to the install is to push that tire bead off of the edge of the rim and towards the center of the rim. Because the center of the rim is a smaller diameter than the edge, there is more space to seat the remaining portion of the tire. The $20 tool describes pushing tire to center of rim. I feel this video should be revised/edited to add this step to seating a tire.
Note: after pushing both sides of tire to center of rim, I was able to seat tire in about 5 minutes. I seated tire with my old tire levers and didn’t need the $20 tool. All I needed was the information from the $20 tool description
Great experience Patrick shared with us. I have a question, how much sealant to use in a 27.5x2.2 cover?
Holy moly, this helps. I just installed my first cushcore insert. It took me 15 minutes or so, and I'm pretty sure that if I hadn't watched this video, it would've taken me 10 times that.
Are there any negative thoughts on cush core except weight? In theory I only see positives
Appreciate the updated install video, CushCore is awesome, I love mine 👍🏻
I've heard nightmare stories, but I had no issues. I didn't have a round bin, but had a cane clothes basket that worked perfectly. Put an old towel over the top and away we go. Very useful vid.
Yeah I’ve tried it on my own 3 times for 1-2 hours each time and I always have to take it in to the bike shop to get it finished
@@jamesprice3440 Maybe it's dependent on your rim and tyre combo. I was installing for DTSwiss rims and Wild Enduro 2.4 tyres with lots of soapy water. Shame to hear you had a crap experience.
Yea Frye, good job
Will Cushcore need to be replaced? If so when should it be replaced?
Great video, I know this could be frustrating. That unit I literally gave up and took it to the bike shop. The secret weapon/tool here is literally the garbage can bahahaha. Boy did I felt stupid 🤦🏻♂️
Just became a customer so let’s see how it goes. I wish the air valves would come in different colors, or at least in black. Kinda pricey but you get what you pay for, right!? So expecting good results 🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽
Thank you!
"Time to go ride" is a bit of a joke! Time to crawl up into a ball and recover from that workout!
Also worth noting - trying to placing the tyre bead into the middle of the rim makes the install considerably easier.
I have NOTHING else green on my bike, wth would you make the valves green?
AMEN
Bro go get some OneUp stuff 🎉
Installing was really friendly following the video. I can't seem to find a way to inflate the tires (27.5 Carbon Santa Cruz), the air is leaking all around the rim. Any tips please?
Julian - This could be a few different things. I you could please send an email info@cushcore.com and we can dig into it further.
Tried installing 27.5” Butcher DH onto my DT 560 rims. Can’t get the ‘ drop the bead’ technique to work. Gave up after an hour. Maybe I’ll try a tyre with less stiff casing. If I’m racing DH and replacing tyres when they tear up then I may not find this worth the hassle. I know these tyres are always tight too, I always resort to using tyre levers before
We have installed this combo without difficulty, but I understand it can be tricky until you see it done. Would you like to send one in for a videotaped demo install?
Could not get the rim inside the tire no way no how. Peeled the core back off rim half way and installed tire
I installed cushcore and is causing severe tire wobble. Any help? The wheels are trued and the tire casing are fine before the installation
If you haven't already, please send an email to info@cushcore.com and we will be glad to help you out.
Don't know what I was doing wrong, but I couldn't get the bead opposite the final section to sit offset to the centre, just kept popping out. My arms are so tyred i dropped the valve cap 3 times trying to fit it.
Last step: Pull the whole thing apart and re-do it with the tire labels properly lined up with the valve stem. #petpeeves #pro #therightwaytodoit
Just fitted my first Cushcore. Fitting inside a Magic Mary on a Stans Arch rim. It was tricky in parts, but the video was a good help. it took 20 minutes in total. Make sure you have good (metal) tyre levers and then follow the video, and it's no major issue.
have followed this and there is not way they are going on broke 3 tire levers and not even close to fitting no wonder i see guys with riding with bald tires using cushcore they dont want do have to start all over again
these are still in the garage i bought different ones and they have been perfect
Didn't work for me
There is a slot/groove in the Cushcore. Does this need to be where the valve is or something?
The slot/groove is a sealant channel for the sealant to travel through the tire when it's added through the valve. It can help distribute the sealant quicker if it's near the valve, but it doesn't need to be where the valve is for the sealant to get mixed in.
@@cushcore690 Awesome, thanks! Should have my set tomorrow to install.
If I HAD Cushcore, it would've saved the tire I just got a pinch flat in 2 weeks ago. It's OK I guess because I now have a nicer tire (DHR2), but I want to install this NOW to save my newer more expensive tires.
One thing though, do you HAVE TO use THEIR valves? I have nice orange Stan's valves I put in. Why couldn't I use those with Cushcore?
~JSV
I think theirs have more holes on the sides of the valve that goes deeper into the tire
For some reason I am having a hard time getting the sealant into the tire with cushcore installed. The first try ended with sealant spraying everywhere. Any tips?
What sealant are you using? There might be a clog in the injector or the valve. Make sure it’s clear, then position the valve at 3:00 so the sealant flows downhill. It should not require pressure to inject the sealant.
Adam Krefting ethirteen tire plasma. A clogged valve was the first thing that came to my mind as well. Weird thing: it happened on both tires. I can still easily inflate them tho. So I am starting to think it’s the sealant itself that’s causing the problem
Does the Cushcore fit asymmetric wheels like the Ibis S35?
Yes, asymmetric rims are fine!
CushCore will fit asymmetric rims and we recommend starting with the bead furthest from the rim channel for installation. This leaves the final bead right next to the rim channel and will make it easier to drop the bead in the rim channel to finish off your install.
@@cushcore690 Thanks guys!
I’ve spent a good hour on this install and I just can’t seem to get the final part of the bead onto the rim. I’ll try it with the help of my friends tommorow I guess🤷♂️
The most important step to get the final part on is making sure the bead is dropped in the rim channel. When you look at the bead you should see a gap between the rim wall and the tire bead. If the tire bead is still touching the rim wall then it has not been properly dropped in the rim channel. After taking 1 or 2 more bites with your tire lever you may need to circle the tire and push down the bead again. Remember to push straight down with tire lever, don't try and tuck it under the insert at an angle.
@@cushcore690 My cushcore is so tight that i just cannot create that gap! it pushes back...
Same for me the second tire should be quicker. The double casing on a DH is a pain.
I find getting it on is easy enough, especially past the first go, but then I find that with the bead pushed into the middle it won't inflate, and tips on how to get the bead back to the rim without a compressor?
having the same problem now, would keen to hear any suggestion
In the end I found cleaning the cushcore with soapy water helped
this will save my rims :D
Should I only use the Tubeless Air Valves from Cushcore, or can I use my Milk-its too? Update/Edit: Got a Quick answer from the Support: No: "CushCore valves have holes on the sides of the valve that allow air to flow through the rim channel. Most tubeless valves only have a hole on top that sits against the insert and gets plugged making inflation difficult. We highly recommend using CushCore valves."
Awesome video! I just installed my new CushCore set with the help of this video and It is not NEARLY as difficult as people make it out to be. It was no more difficult to install than any downhill casing tire.
Thanks Ben! We are glad the new video helped!!
The key is pushing the tire beads toward the middle of the rim instead of where it sits normally. It will give you the slack you need to finish. Not much harder than mounting a tire without cushcore.
Liar.
I did that but because the beads were pushed into the center, they wouldn’t seat. I ended up using the cushcore tire lever to try and get the bead back in its seat and messed up the rim tape (same thing happened on both tires). Heading to a shop tomorrow $$$
If installing a 2 ply is a 5, installing it with cush core is a 15. I wonder why this isn't filmed real time in one take?
Just failed the 2nd time because the rim tape got punctured while I was putting the tyre and cushcore on.
You guys should make a machine for this. I would definitely buy it.
DH casing a nobl 37. No fucking chance I get this on.
Took some practice and a rough lesson on how not to inflate too much.. also cheap ass tire levers will apparently just snap
quote on another site, i found it to be fairly accurate with respect to maxxis ardent exo tubeless, apparently using new tires and soaping the inside helps /mandatory with maxxis if you want to avoid problems... mine rubbed through my frame (Al crack) after checking initially and it was fine...I obvs should have kept a closer eye on it after install: "Everyone will assume you did it wrong, which is irritating AF, but what no one will tell you is that some tires suck. If you are using a Maxxis tire, note that their tires have a rough, textured inside, and the Cushcore won't slip into place as easily as a tire with smooth insides. The Cushcore guys also told me that there are some runs of Maxxis tires that simply are not straight, right out of the box, and lo behold, that was the case with mine. Also, don't even try to mount them in used tires, the dried sealant prevents them from sliding into place.
(wait for the Maxxis tifosi to scream and break out the lynching ropes...)
The real trick is to soap up the inside of the tire, soap the cushcore, mount the sucker EXACTLY like the Cushcore video, use a brand new tire with slick guts inside, and then be prepared to do it a couple of times and then you'll be super stoked.
Vorab Maxxis Reifen sitzen von Natur aus sehr eng an und sind nicht die einfachsten Reifen zum aufziehen.
Erster Einbau:
4h, 6 zerbrochene Reifenheber, 1 an der Wulst ausgeleiherter Reifen, blutige Hände, aber immerhin der zweite war drauf.
Zweiter Einbau:
40min für 1 Reifen mit gaaaaaanz viel Spülli, einer Tonne wie im Video UND Kabelbinder um den Reifen in der Felgenmitte zu halten, Reifenheber sind noch alle ganz Einbau ging diesmal easy, also nur noch mit Kabelbinder damit er nicht aus der Mitte rutscht.
Aber das System ist top, selbst ohne Luft kann man noch fahren und nichts kommt mehr bis zur Felge auch bei Treppen mit zu wenig Luft nicht =)
Aber wenn die Milch mal nichts bringt ist nichts mit unterwegs mal nen Schlauch reinziehen das kann man von vornherein vergessen.
that method do not work for Onza Aquila
actually it works but it really hard!
Pain in the butt to install. If you get a flat tire at a race, forget about it.
Guy makes it look easy. if I was making the video it would look like I was wrestling a alligator for 45 mins .think trick is roll tuck them push it down with tyre levee go round rim few times with lever
It's was like trying to stretch a pair off rubber pants over a sumo wrestlers head whilst he's wearing them
Its a totally fucking nightmare to install tires on my cush core setup. Have pay a mechanic $35 to install.
easy as pie
I bought the emtb cushcore last week. Spent a whole afternoon trying to get the front wheel done. One bead took 3 hours. Broke 6 levers. I watched every single video including cushcore official vid. Called local bike shop to buy steel core levers, figured I’d ask how much they charge to just finish the job. They said $60 bucks, half hour turnaround. I get down there and then the said $60 EACH. Ok I guess thats acceptable. Oh and btw two days turnaround time. Then I drive home and the tech calls me back and says he can’t get them on, makes an excuse about I need a whole new tire. I go to pick them up to find out he UNdid the front wheel that took me all day to do. So now after having a “pro” take a crack at it, I am right back where I started minus one front wheel 85% done. This has been a nightmare. I have one cc bead bro showing up today from amazon. I know you need two AND you probably need the official CC lever. This is turning into a giant fiasco. I really hope they are worth it. They were recommended by a friend I trust so we shall see
Levo mullet, roval wheels, specialized eliminator & butcher combo…for conversation sake
He did not line up the logo and the valve... HERESY
just buy a tannus insert. way easier. im running a tannus on the front of my DH bike and a cushcore in the rear ( which i bought out of frustration at a bike park before i bought the tannus) and the cush core is always a royal pain in the ass and the tannus is always super easy
Took about 15’ on a set of tires, another 1h for Schwalbe 😂
I’ve been riding for 40+ yrs. Struggled for way too long trying to get this working. Ruined rim tape and the bead on a brand new tire. 150 USD for two piece of foam and the world’s ugliest valve stems. I gave up.
100%
And for people complaining that it's too hard to install.
Here's a video of installing, with sealant and 25PSI, under 60 seconds. ruclips.net/user/shortsYaCQlfHcZrs
😘
The “premium” bike shop in my city, told me they could not remove the tire inserts and told me the only way they’d get it off was cutting them. 😢
install on both wheels
cushcore: *costs 110$*
Still a pain in the arse.
Wtf! This is impossible! Even following the directions.
es una mierda montar ese cush core..!!
BuIIsh**t. I just picked up a set of these and regret it. Not only are they extremely overpriced but getting them in or out is ridiculous. This video makes it seem like it’s not so bad but it’s a lie. I worked as a mechanic and this was a tire install from hell. You should never have to use tire levers to install a tire.
Getting one side of the bead on the rim is extremely painful, getting the other side on is 10x worse. It’s no wonder they fast forward through that part in this video.
I’m going to guess they are using a super wide and well used tire just to make it easier in their video too. Personally I was seating a brand new 2.4” DHR II MAXGRIP DD and it was absurd.
I was stubborn so I didn’t stop until it was on but even that I regret because I’m sure it won’t even be easy to get out. The inserts are so wide they push the sidewalls out which makes it extremely difficult to get the bead off the rim. On that note, it probably makes your sidewalks more susceptible to damage since they can’t flex as well when getting pushed through tight spots. Of course that’s just an assumption.
I put the second insert up for sale as soon as I got home. It feels like I have been scammed into buying a useless product that can actually cause more harm than good.
I wish this was the review that I read before buying so that I could think twice about it.
Don’t do it.
Nearly same story here. Hands felt like I boxed 12 rounds after ONE bead finally went on
i have a better way, my method has produced times of sub 2 minutes
In that case, please post a video and show us your way!
@@cushcore I"m good at tuning bikes, not making vids! But, my difference to yours is. (i do this with ALL insert brands and rim/tire combos) 1. Install Appropriate valve for insert. 2 Install the tire dry and fully seat the beads, this allows for inspection of air leaks and assure the rim tape is secured 3. Remove valve core 4. unseat whichever bead is going to be easy to install again. (asymmetric channeled rims WTB and Ibis mostly take note) 5. Install CushCore insert (and dump sealant in if you're good at the next step without making a mess) 6. Starting opposite the valve, tuck the bead exactly in the method in your video, sans soapy water. 7. Squirt sealant in valve, install core, inflate. A few tips to increase efficiency: Prestretch CushCore as you would a tubular tire. When you tuck the bead at the valve, have an NRS or toeclip strap to hold the bead there while you work towards the valve. IF you're scooping sealant in prior to installed bead, scoop it in opposite the valve, and keep that side pointed downwards so you don't spill. First try this way was under 10 minutes. Fastest time on a good day (i had installed 10 pairs of CushCore inserts that day) was 1:19 starting with a dry tire and pre-taped rim. Was under 5 minutes for the pair.
I would like to add, the main reasons for doing this is two fold. You only have to deal with tucking one bead instead of two. Having the one bead seated gives you a few extra millimeters to play with when you have the tuck the remaining bead into the channel.
@@paullehrbmx 1:19? That's awesome Paul, thanks for sharing!
@@cushcore Cheers!
And what if the opposite bead is stuck in the low spot so you cant get the remaining side into the lowest diameter. F&@)&ing joke man.
Good question Sion. That's where our bead dropper tool tends to help. It's not mandatory but it definitely helps put a little extra force on the bead to push the other side out of the way.
@@cushcore690 Thanks for replying. It's impossible with a DH casing Maxxis DHR2, the bead is way too tight to move. I think the only way will be to seat the tire without cushcore, then remove one bead, insert the cushcore, then the opposite bead should be fully out of the way. I will try this week.
no wonder you're bald. this is set #5 I am currently attempting to install and my upper body is sote and blood blisters on my damn hands.
Not as easy as the skinny hipster dude makes it out to be. Took me more than one hour to get the front tire mounted (Stan’s rim) yet only five minutes to get the rear mounted (HED rim). Clearly at this point USA = 0; Belgium = 1. BTW this was with 700c inserts designed for 35mm+ tires (mine are Panaracer Gravelking SK 700 x 38). Anyway, my hands are blistered AF with some seeping wounds. I can only imagine that this process is 75% easier with regular high volume MTB tires on wide rims.
Worst product ever to work with
what a terrible product, designed to keep you from having to check your air pressure.
Lies, Lies, Lies. This is the hardest thing I have tried to install on my bike. Over an hour into it and I have broken 3 levers and will have to take it to a bike shop. It is impossible to get the tires on. I did every trick in every video I watched and it still would not seat the tire.
what did the bike shop ever do to you? just set it on fire, walk away and check your air pressure when you ride
@@donaldriddle7138 The bike shop in Los Angeles charges insane fees for basic work. I was able to get the tires on except for one side that I got on over 3/4 of the way. Then the crush core tool broke so I took it to the bike shop. They charged me $10 for 5 min or less of work. Half the cost of buying another tool and the full amount of minimum wage for an hour.
It would more beneficial to learn how to ride your bike and what proper inflation pressure is, before you waste your money on this garbage product.