FUN FACT (even though you'll probably find this out while questing anyways): The area where Thrall and Garrosh had their brawl (or in lore it's called a Mak'gora) to the death is actually at the Stones of Prophecy in Nagrand. For us it was where Thrall and Garrosh Hellscream met for the first time. Thrall kills Garrosh Hellscream in the place where they started it all.
2014: Looks like Yrel will be a major character in the future 2019: She ends up a genocidal fanatic of the Light, and we must rescue the orcs from her grasp
***** Garrosh prided the OLD Orcish ways, and also was a Bbigot to other races that were not Orcs. Thrall represents the Modern Orc ways he created once they were forced to stay on Azeroth. Both make great Warchiefs depending on time they exist in. Garrosh thought with an outdated attitude, that's why he failed.
Shiryu Rain You seem to misunderstand the true meaning of "strength". Garrosh made the same mistake, preferring to rely on raw, primitive brutality... and he got what he deserved.
Skull800, it seems you too misunderstand "strength". True strength - the one that gives you the ability to lead, to inspire, to rule - is not the strength of muscles. It's not the strength of roaring out orders. A leader's true strength comes from his spirit and his maturity. Garrosh, despite become powerful and badass in combat, is still the same self-pitying, miserable kid that he was back in Garadar. He has not matured one bit. He believes that throwing a tantrum and killing off opposition will earn him acceptance... but all it got him was more and more enemies. Thrall's lack of martial prowess does not make him weak. Let me remind you that he was a formidable warrior in his time. He *chose* the path of peace and balance, and matured in doing so. His power does not hide in elemental magic, but in the spiritual conviction. Otherwise, he would have crushed Garrosh with magic from the very start, instead of facing off against him face to face. Look at that fight. It was only once Garrosh started flaunting his brutal, primitive strength that Thrall resorted to his shamanistic powers. It was only when Garrosh refused to accept his shortcomings and instead started shifting blame to Thrall, that Thrall realized Garrosh was beyond redemption.
Blackhand is a freaking beast and is pretty much made of fire so of course he lived. As you said Yrel had to be saved. And from where Durotan was lying it seemed he was far enough away that the blast critically injured him rather than kill him.
It was a joke bro, I wasn't expecting Blackhand to die from fire. Like Deathwing would feel a firemage's pyroblast lorewise lol :P Maybe a bad joke, but it was a joke.
I feel the same way. I really hope that they give him a warrior's burial, he might've been a monster, but he was a hero of the horde and a warchief. If not for the man. Then at least for the titles he once bore.
When He Says This When he was all sad in nagrand as a kid he heard of thrall as some badass like his father and wanted to join him , when he met him and saw him he was disappointed and wasnt what he thought he was.
I actually thought Garrosh made an excellent Warchief. If you checked out some of the quests where a few times the story had him getting very upset at innocents getting killed. And his suspicions against the Undead were certainly well founded if you leveled an undead from 1-30 you would know he was right not to trust her. If he had not went overboard in Pandaria with the power in the final instance, I would have said the charges against him were unfounded. For a character that was supposed to be so bad, he actually had a lot of wisdom and compassion for the innocent (Ashenvale and Stonetalon mountains).
***** agreed, which is one of the reasons i believe that Garrosh deserves some sort of honorable burial, or at least a burial somewhere in Nagrand together with Grom Hellscream by the time he dies (or near the grave of our Grom Hellscream) so that he can rest in peace as a warrior and a Hellscream
They really fucked us over with this whole time travel bullshit. No, that wasn't our Velen that died. That was their Velen. And the Maraad, that was also their Maraad. I think. Wait, so who is our Maraad? And which Yrel is that? Do we even have our own Yrel? Fuck that.
whoopdeedoodude You're only confused because you're watching this out of context of the quest storylines. Which I'm sure you'll be reading as you quest. RIGHT? For reference, it's THEIR Velen, it's OUR Maraad. There is no "their" Maraad, and there is no "our" Y'rel, just as there is no "their" Garrosh.
I'm saddened that so many heroic characters and even major villains have already been killed off in these cinematics and heroics that have already been released. Without Maraad and especially Velen, we are gonna have alot of trouble fighting off the legion when they return to azeroth.
@@wastedviking6280 he never asked to be a warchief in the first place. It is an asshole move to put such a responsibility on someone's shoulders and then blame him for doing a bad job.
He never wanted to become a warchief, thrall should have put Saurfang in charge and not him, he was not ready, he should have remained a warsong overlord.
For anyone that's confused. This is an alternate timeline, Grom (Large orc holding axe) is garroshes father in the normal story he drinks the blood and becomes stronger but slaves to the fel energy. So in this timeline garrosh let's his father know of what will come of the orcs if he were to drink. So Grom refuses kills mannaroth with the help of his son (who actually isn't born yet) and become the true horde who fight to conquer not only draenor but azeroth. Which is where WOD will take place defending azeroth against the iron horde.
Amorian Duranin I've been hoping to face off against Azshara for years, though I think it would be better as one of the last expansion packs before the game ends. With her power rivalling Sargeras himself and being the servant of an old god, she'd be the second ultimate end game boss. For the final expansion, I'd love to face off against the Titans themselves and defend Azeroth against their attempts to "reboot" the world.
The Blackhand cinematic was def my favorite. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Maraad... how?" "In the light... we are one." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "What do you want, little girl?" "Your head." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Such arrogance to believe that you alone could defeat me." "Together." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You will all die!" "Just you." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Adrián Acevedo Mak'gora is a duel, a duel of honour. It's even Thrall who provoked the Mak'gora, and he thought he could win fairly, but instead he cheated after his face was in dirt just like a typical kid that lost a 1vs1 fight. Sure Thrall intended to kill Garrosh, but he still cheated in the duel, and this actually made Garrosh won the fight as a true Orc.
Well, he didnt want to be warchief, but Thrall kinda forced him into becoming one. Then, after some missunderstandings (Cairne's death and stuff) all other Horde leader kinda hates him and he felt kinda like... out... He had kinda like a reason to do all that he did.
Literally any other person would not have fucked up as much as he did. He never relied on anyone else, he used threats over diplomacy and he didn't work together with the other leaders at ALL. Also, ffs, seriously? Are you people all mentally retarded? Garrosh is OLDER than Thrall. This isn't the 'OMG this poor young guy was given too much power by this older, more experienced guy!'. Thrall had more responsibility when he was even younger and managed to do the right thing. The mentality of the person is essential in determining the outcome.
Nathrezim0 Yep, youre right, any other wouldnt have fucked it up as much as him. Thats why letting him as warchief was a big mistake. A big mistake that Thrall made. And he didnt rely on anyone neither anyone relied on him. He felt quite alone.
Well garrosh has a point, Thrall made him Warchief and just left him without guidance ... so he ruled like in the "glory" days of the horde which thrall talked about : / also: High Respect to the voice actor, garrosh really sounds like he was going to cry at a moment! :D
Dude fucking, I almost cried at that scene.. shit. Those last few lines from Garrosh hurt. He did a lot of questionable stuff but I mean yeah Thrall just kind of threw him out into the fray. Thrall was the one that picked him up from Nagrand where he was pouting.
Stephanie Mcknight can you really blame him though? I mean just looked at what happened in Northrend. Garrosh was put in charge and was doing a really good job then the Forsaken betray him, the Alliance blames him for the Forsaken attack, leaving Garrosh with a real bad taste in his mouth about the Alliance and everyone else who wasn't an orc or didn't unquestionably stand with him. All he did, he did to restore the Horde. His intentions were noble, sadly the most evil of deeds are born from noble intentions taken too far... the whole thing is really tragic.
SuperRavensblood especially because he swore he will never be like his corrupted father but ended like him anyways, just not by demons but by an Old God : /
There is a reason why blizzard uses those lines for garrosh.....and i have pretty good speculation on why they did that.....also ever since garrosh died thrall well he kinda MIA
i think the most Emotional was when Maraad sacrificed himself to save Yrel... ''In the light... we are one'' He saved her with the last power of the light...and redeemed himself He didn't save the refugee's But he did save Yrel P.S The Electric Chair thing Thrall did was awesome Let's all thank Garrosh for letting Thrall reunite with his old pops Also Velen(Our Timeline)did like nothing...i thought Draenei we're so keen on going back to Draenor... I guess not You know what is the best Heroic moment? 2:16 Just watch how he kills the assholes in his endless Bloodlust... 2:36 he's got plate armor....you can't kill him idiot :P 2:43 LOK'TAR!!!!!
Michael Lansberg Garrosh's death hit me hard as well. He is a sad story of a child who never matured. He was given mantle of Warchief, a responsibility too great for him to handle. Anyone who disagreed with him just made him go into a tantrum and pushed everyone away. Garrosh's very last words is blaming Thrall for all his actions. It is sad cause Garrosh could have been different if he never was Warchief to begin with and had time to grow.
***** Well I think there were situations where shamans and warlocks were defeated by a warrior. Or how to say it, someone who doesn't use spells and similiar stuff. It all depends on the character and how experienced they are.
It's so infuriating that they had all this wonderful stuff while leveling, and then just completely and utterly gave up on the rest of the expansion. What a shame.
That BIGguy Yep, he sacrificed his hand to the Heart of the Mountain to gain power over the Earth, hence why the Blackrock are the only clan capable of smelting Blackrock Ore :D
Thank god we are done with Garrosh for real this time. Kudos to Thrall for cleaning up his biggest mistake in life. I thought he was gonna go soft but nope lit that sorry ass like a Christmas tree.
Does anyone else feel this expansion was more about the Draenei and their "second chance" more than the orcs and their ancestry? Playing both I felt more emotionally invested in the plot of the Draenei than that of the Orcs.
Justin Crawford It's called the "Draco in leather pants syndrome". No matter how much of a douche the bad guy is, some people choose to remain blind to his dickery.
Ummm, right. Sorry, but I'm not going to discuss warchief policies with a person who can't write coherently nor refrain from insulting his opponents. Try again, maybe sounding less like Garrosh throwing a tantrum. Oh, wait.
Look at my name. Then look at your comment. Then look at my name again. Check my G+ profile. Where am I from? I'm from Poland, where people don't speak English as a native language. Sadly, English isn't your native language either, but you could speak it as well as I do if you only made an effort. You could also make an effort to be offensive in a witty and veiled way, which you are not. I'm on a Brewfest Kodo.
Mind communicating in a language which regular people can understand? I tried to find info on what you just said, but could only find some League of Legends nonsense.
Spoiler alert: Did anyone else get that mental feeling when Ner'Zhul summoned the Dark Star?: Well, there he is, the original form of what would be the Lich King.
I don't know why people blame Thrall. He was right. Garrosh chose to do shitty things and justify it. Nobody made Garrosh do anything. He was already messed up to begin with if he was willing to commit such crimes. Sometimes upbringings can warp people and you do have people that can go through similar things and not all turn into lunatics. Depends on the person.
I am Saurfang. Brother of Broxigar. You know me to be the Supreme Commander of the Might of Kalimdor. An orc - a true orc warrior - wishes for one thing: To die in the glory of battle against a hated enemy. Some of you have fought in battles. Peace has been with us for many years. Many years we sat idle but many years we battled. In those years - where strife the land and Legion and Scourge sacked our homes, killed our families - these insects dwelled beneath us. Beneath our homes - waiting. Waiting to crush the life from our little ones. To slay all in their path. This they do for their god. And for our gods? We defend. We stand. We show that as one. United. We destroy. Their god will fall. To die today, on this field of battle, is to die an orcish death. To die today is to die for our little ones. Our old ones. Our... loved ones. Would any of you deny yourselves such a death? Such an honor?" -High Overlord Saurfang addressing the Might of Kalimdor
*High Overlord Saurfang says:* So the prodigal son has spoken! Your father's blood runs strong in you, Hellscream. Impatient as always... Impatient and reckless. You rush headlong into all-out war without a thought of the consequences. *Garrosh Hellscream says:* Do not speak to me of consequences, old one. *High Overlord Saurfang says:* I drank of the same blood your father did, Garrosh. Mannoroth's cursed venom pumped through my veins as well. I drove my weapons into the bodies and minds of my enemies. And while Grom died a glorious death - freeing us all from the blood curse - he could not wipe away the terrible memory of our past. His act could not erase the horrors we committed. The winter after the curse was lifted, hundreds of veteran orcs like me were lost to despair. Our minds were finally free, yes... Free to relive all of the unthinkable acts that we had performed under the Legion's influence. I think it was the sounds of the draenei children that unnerved most of them... You never forget... Have you ever been to Jaggedswine Farm? When the swine are of age for the slaughter... It's that sound. The sound of the swine being killed... It resonates the loudest. Those are hard times for us older veterans. *Garrosh Hellscream says:* But surely you cannot think that those children were born into innocence? They would have grown up and taken arms against us! *High Overlord Saurfang says:* I am not speaking solely of the children of our enemies... I won't let you take us down that dark path again, young Hellscream. I'll kill you myself before that day comes... *Garrosh Hellscream says:* How have you managed to survive for so long, Saurfang? Not fallen victim to your own memories? *High Overlord Saurfang says:* I don't eat pork...
someone else who understands saurfang. he is such a bad-ass. i remember seeing the alliance go for the side entrance cause if they went in the front saurfang would eat them for breakfast.
The Garrosh death scene can definitely spark some Garrosh sympathy. Thrall did kind of abandon him to go to the maelstrom kinda like,"K I'm leaving now bai.". And I believe that Garrosh did do what he thought was right for the Horde. Though he may have gone a liiiiittle off the deep end at the end, he did the best he could. RIP in Peace Garrosh you did a thing once.
Thrall shouldn't have left him in charge, but it's kind of hard to judge isn't it? Thrall was needed to save the world from blowing up it's kinda hard to step away from that, though maybe he should have come back sooner. And on Garrosh I constantly go back and fourth with the whole "he did what he thought was best for the Horde" angle. Maybe in his mind, but when considering how badly he treated all the non-Orc races of the Horde including the Darkspear trolls and Tauren who showed nothing but unwavering loyalty to the new Horde since its beginnings it makes it a little harder for me to feel too much sympathy because it makes me wonder just...what he thought was best for the Horde to begin with. Whatever it was it obviously didn't involve anything but Orcs. He shouldn't have been left in charge to begin with he obviously wasn't ready, but I really think it's arguable whether he really did what he thought was best for the Horde because at times it seemed more like he just wanted to turn the Horde into what HE wanted it to be at any cost.
Why didn't Thrall help Drek'Thar in the 2nd cinematic? He's a pretty powerful Shaman and can control elements lol, he was just standing there dumbfounded.
Alijamaru He had said during the fight at the portal when you first arrive that the elements here were unfamiliar to him and his power was quickly fading. Presumably, after he meets Drek'Thar he gets some experience in old-school Orcish shamanism and becomes more acquainted with the elements on Draenor, leading to his victory over Garrosh.
+L. Reptiler I'd assume not simply because the Burning Legion were using the Orcs to soften up Azeroth. Thrall spent most of his life outside of Dreanor so i'm not all to shocked he it took him awhile to get reasserted there, but it doesn't make sense if you play a Mage. Thrall
And so ends the Garrosh Trilogy of WoW, i call Vanilla-TBC-WOTLK as the Arthas Trilogy, because so many things were connected to Arthas, the Plaguelands, the sight of devastation in the Blood Elf Starter Zone, and the WOTLK expansion itself. while Cata-MoP-WOD is the Garrosh Trilogy, with Garrosh rising as a Warchief, then as a warmongering despot, and finally a underling to what could've been his own father, only to die in this expansion, much like Arthas died in WotLK. I wonder if the principal antagonist in the next three expansion will be Wrathion given how underhanded he became since his birth.
Thanks for putting this here for us lore-nerds. But for the love of all that is holy, can you move the damn mouse to the right edge of the screen or something in the future?
fuck green jesus - honestly i don´t mind that Garrosh was ended, but THIS doens´t felt like a "worthy" death for him, not like a warriors death - feels like Thrall "cheated" imo "YOU made me warchief" - "YOU left me, to pick up YOUR pieces"...
On the other hand, it does close out Garrosh's story nicely by ending it where it began. It started with Thrall telling him, effectively, to man up and look to his own deeds and accomplishments instead of focusing on what others have done. And it ends the *EXACT SAME WAY*... in the exact same place.
Personally, for him to have a "warriors death" he would have to be bested by a warrior. Aside from Varian, I cannot think of any straight up warrior that could go toe to toe with Garrosh... And we've already seen that he would rather see Garrosh on trial. He died in a Mok'gora he agreed to. That is as honorable of a death that someone like Garrosh could receive.
***** I don't think Garrosh is dead yet. They could potentially bring him back. During the assault on Orgrimmar, Sylvannas offered to resurrect blood elf troops which means she can resurrect other races including orcs which might mean she could resurrect Garrosh. She even offered to defend him in trial which means she implies she needs him for something bigger. She also has a distaste for Vol'Jin which means she might be looking to over throw him. Besides that, it looks to me like Garrosh's hand move slightly at the end so he may still be alive.
You feel like Thrall cheated? He is a shaman he is gonna have to use the elementals and stuff, Thrall kicked his butt, but he left Garrosh with nothing really.
So it's been said a few times by now so I figured I'd share it with you guys who haven't seen this yet. After we get to Draenor we basically free Gul'dan, Teron'gor and Cho'gall since they were bound and are forcing to keep the Dark Portal open in this "timeline". After we free them they all go in portals and we don't see them again for a while. Teron'gor we find in Auchindoun but when we defeat him he jumps off the platform. So we have no clue if he's dead (he most likely isn't though). During all of this with Garrosh and Thrall and all the other questing around Draenor the only thing we end up figuring out is during the legendary quest line we have absolutely no clue where Gul'dan and Cho'gall are at. Ner'zhul is going about the dark star and using it to kill everything and then he goes to Aunchindoun as well. We know Blackhand and Kor'gath are in raids, Durotan we obviously meet in Frostfire Ridge, and Nerzhul as mentioned is in Auchindoun. But what are Grommash, Gul'dan and Kilrogg all doing? When we arrive on Draenor and the portal is closed down after we save those 3 guys we're chased out of Tanaan jungle (and you'll figure this out when you play but you actually can not go back into Tanaan jungle yet.. it's restricted off which is probably why flying isn't allowed at the moment). We can assume that Kilrogg is helping Grom since Kilrogg's clan is in Tanaan jungle anyways. We do know arriving there that they are constructing something. A sort of... fortress.. Think back to Outland and the original lore. What was the fortress that was used sort of as a base for the Orc's onslaught into Azeroth? Guessed it yet? You could say it's a sort of... citadel. We also don't know what the blood of Mannoroth is still doing up there in the Throne of Kil'jaeden (or whatever it's named in Draenor, this is just what it is named in Outland in the "future"). Demons are already invading Shattrath when we get to Draenor so there's that. The Legion is doing something that's all we know for sure. Anyways this went way off track but I'm willing to bet that since Gul'dan is missing and we don't know for sure where he's at that he's probably still experimenting with Death Knights. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Teron'gor ends up still becoming Teron Gorefiend anyways alongside with Garrosh. Who also knows... the Death Knights were Gul'dan's way of kind of coming back into the "Horde" and not being killed. He could show this to Grommash (who might be sickened but who knows. We don't even really know if Garrosh ever told him that he was his son anyways) and end up being a boss in that Citadel. This part could or could not happen though. (shortened version): I strongly believe something with the blood of Mannoroth still on the Throne of Kil'jaeden as far as the legion is going to happen, Gul'dan still using DK's and resurrecting Garrosh and Hellfire Citadel ( *cough* ) ending up becoming a raid.
Sejuck God damn pally magic. First survive things that will kill everyone else with Bubble, then use Lay on Hands. Why not use a hearthstone while shes at it?
That's the thing with blizzard, they always make you feel remorse for the end bosses, Kael'thas was once a prince and did everything to save his people, Illidan's story is really sad too between Malfurion and Tyrande, Arthas is the same thing and now garrosh, except Deathwing was also once the aspect of earth he was manipulated.
I will never understand why Thrall chose Garrosh over Vol'jin or Cairn Bloodhoof, both would have been excellent choices. They were more experienced for leadership, yes Garrosh was a hero but still that doesn't make him the most trustworthy candidate. I do feel bad for Garrosh in the end. Thrall really did leave a shitty plate for Garrosh.
There is a reason why blizzard did that and i have a really good speculation on why.Also i suspected that ever since garrosh dies thrall has been sort of MiA throught out the remaining zones.....he might have a drama talk with grommash who knows....
Maybe she returns with the others to our timeline? Or maybe the two timelines remain... parallel? I would seriously have a rage fit if she died, i didn't even get to play WoD but i already love this character. I do hope they find a way around to keep her.
Don't you find it simply epic how Orcs and Draenei, the two races that held burning grudges each against the other, fight here extremely well side by side? Maraad and Thrall, damn, kickass team. Yrel and Durotan, speechless, that was such a beautiful moment.
I think this is all going to end with Gul'dan turning out to be the main threat, summoning the full force of the Burning Legion into Draenor. Hellscream realizes his mistakes and turns the Iron Horde against the Legion, with the Horde, Alliance and Iron Horde uniting against the far more dangerous threat, lead by Kil'jaeden.
ZanathKariashi Jesus Christ, they're really that predictable and made Grom have Burning Crusade syndrome. So he's the 'Final' raid boss (Like illidan) but then SUDDENLY DEMONS and kil'jaeden/Archimond is the true final boss in Draenor!Sunwell. Who writes for Blizzard again so I can knock them upside the head with a book? Also I don't play the game anymore, just have a curiosity where the story has been going since I left.
While I enjoy the cinematics for WoW, I can't help but notice the lack of player participation. That's why I usually play SW:TOR now because of how immersive and story-changing the players choices are. Just my two cents.
FUN FACT (even though you'll probably find this out while questing anyways):
The area where Thrall and Garrosh had their brawl (or in lore it's called a Mak'gora) to the death is actually at the Stones of Prophecy in Nagrand. For us it was where Thrall and Garrosh Hellscream met for the first time. Thrall kills Garrosh Hellscream in the place where they started it all.
I keep trying to move the bloody mouse!
Argos Morse For reals. Other than that one glaring annoyance, this was a perfect upload
I love the emotion in Garrosh's voice when he was fighting thrall, it showed how he felt towards all that had happened up until his last moment
i love that voice actor so much
It always reminded me of Kung Fu Panda where Tai Lung is fighting Shifu.
2014: Looks like Yrel will be a major character in the future
2019: She ends up a genocidal fanatic of the Light, and we must rescue the orcs from her grasp
Jeez... Do all female characters end up in the Dark Side?(Jaina was pretty confused after the defeat of Garrosh)
@@bencebotye3904 Jaina turned out alright in the end though
@@SleepySloth2705 I know, but it was a bit bizarre.
wait what at what point did she end up a genocidal fanatic of the light?
@@zivxx Unlock the Mag'Har Orcs to find out
Fuck.. If people thought Garrosh was tough then wait until they stand before daddy Hellscream. Grommash is the very definition of Warchief.
The Aristocrat
Orgrim was actually more like a puppet.
grommash was the one and only true warchief. eu.battle.net/wow/en/game/lore/savage-world/lords-of-war/#episode-2
***** enough with the broxigar shit already, he is just semi-canon.
ᵂᴴᴼ ᶜᵃʳᵉˢ? Broxigar is canon. If you're able to wound a Titan then you're probably fucking God-like.
ConorChaos The axe he used was forged by a demigod, so in a way he kind of was god-like.
Garrosh was whooping Thrall so he had to run to his Shaman ways to win
Garrosh was a true warchief
Not even necessarily by orcish ways. Mak'goras are meant for you to use your strengths and were probably designed for warriors and shamans on Draenor.
***** Garrosh prided the OLD Orcish ways, and also was a Bbigot to other races that were not Orcs. Thrall represents the Modern Orc ways he created once they were forced to stay on Azeroth. Both make great Warchiefs depending on time they exist in. Garrosh thought with an outdated attitude, that's why he failed.
Shiryu Rain You seem to misunderstand the true meaning of "strength". Garrosh made the same mistake, preferring to rely on raw, primitive brutality... and he got what he deserved.
***** A shamans strength derives from the elements.
Skull800, it seems you too misunderstand "strength". True strength - the one that gives you the ability to lead, to inspire, to rule - is not the strength of muscles. It's not the strength of roaring out orders. A leader's true strength comes from his spirit and his maturity.
Garrosh, despite become powerful and badass in combat, is still the same self-pitying, miserable kid that he was back in Garadar. He has not matured one bit. He believes that throwing a tantrum and killing off opposition will earn him acceptance... but all it got him was more and more enemies.
Thrall's lack of martial prowess does not make him weak. Let me remind you that he was a formidable warrior in his time. He *chose* the path of peace and balance, and matured in doing so. His power does not hide in elemental magic, but in the spiritual conviction. Otherwise, he would have crushed Garrosh with magic from the very start, instead of facing off against him face to face. Look at that fight. It was only once Garrosh started flaunting his brutal, primitive strength that Thrall resorted to his shamanistic powers. It was only when Garrosh refused to accept his shortcomings and instead started shifting blame to Thrall, that Thrall realized Garrosh was beyond redemption.
"It's over, no one could had survived that!"
Blackhand: Survives
Yrel: Survives
Maraad: Could had, but he chose to save Yrel
Durotan: Survives
Blackhand is a freaking beast and is pretty much made of fire so of course he lived. As you said Yrel had to be saved. And from where Durotan was lying it seemed he was far enough away that the blast critically injured him rather than kill him.
It was a joke bro, I wasn't expecting Blackhand to die from fire. Like Deathwing would feel a firemage's pyroblast lorewise lol :P Maybe a bad joke, but it was a joke.
Gotcha sorry. Hard to tell sometimes haha :)
of course blackhand survived. the dude was like a walking inferno.
most stupid thing thing Maraad ever did
YOU...FAILED...ME!
Even though garrosh is as big a hothead as his father i kinda felt sorry for him
r.i.p Warchief!!!
I feel the same way. I really hope that they give him a warrior's burial, he might've been a monster, but he was a hero of the horde and a warchief. If not for the man. Then at least for the titles he once bore.
When He Says This When he was all sad in nagrand as a kid he heard of thrall as some badass like his father and wanted to join him , when he met him and saw him he was disappointed and wasnt what he thought he was.
Dainn Greywall agree
I actually thought Garrosh made an excellent Warchief. If you checked out some of the quests where a few times the story had him getting very upset at innocents getting killed. And his suspicions against the Undead were certainly well founded if you leveled an undead from 1-30 you would know he was right not to trust her. If he had not went overboard in Pandaria with the power in the final instance, I would have said the charges against him were unfounded. For a character that was supposed to be so bad, he actually had a lot of wisdom and compassion for the innocent (Ashenvale and Stonetalon mountains).
***** agreed, which is one of the reasons i believe that Garrosh deserves some sort of honorable burial, or at least a burial somewhere in Nagrand together with Grom Hellscream by the time he dies (or near the grave of our Grom Hellscream) so that he can rest in peace as a warrior and a Hellscream
Warlords of Draenor may have lacked content, but the leveling experience from 90 to 100, was amazing.
I concur, though it does not pardon the lack of content aha
Agree so much!
agree🎉
For sure. I loved the leveling in Draenor. The endgame... not so much.
no
"RISE UP IRON HORDE!" I'd be so motivated if I was the Iron Horde with Grommash Hellscream backing us up.
Omg me too💛💛🤜🤘
They really fucked us over with this whole time travel bullshit. No, that wasn't our Velen that died. That was their Velen. And the Maraad, that was also their Maraad. I think. Wait, so who is our Maraad? And which Yrel is that? Do we even have our own Yrel?
Fuck that.
your Velen your Maraad and we did not have are own Yrel well till now
Their velen our Maraad
ThePetardaProduction how do you link that to horde????
If you go into Warlords of Draenor thinking this is all time travel you're going to have a bad time.
whoopdeedoodude You're only confused because you're watching this out of context of the quest storylines.
Which I'm sure you'll be reading as you quest. RIGHT?
For reference, it's THEIR Velen, it's OUR Maraad. There is no "their" Maraad, and there is no "our" Y'rel, just as there is no "their" Garrosh.
Garrosh: "you never had the strength of a true warrior."
Thrall: "No duh moron I'm a shaman!"
That's what I saw in that scene.
Thrall was trained a warrior. He only heard the call of the elements later in life.
@dancason07
“Then it’s a good thing, I’m one hell of a shaman.”
I'm saddened that so many heroic characters and even major villains have already been killed off in these cinematics and heroics that have already been released. Without Maraad and especially Velen, we are gonna have alot of trouble fighting off the legion when they return to azeroth.
Toxic Gamez Our Velen is all right though, just chilling in the Exodar. It was the alternate Velen that sacrificed himself to purify K'ara.
Pumbli yeah just found that out a couple days ago haha
Hellscream Thrall (and as optional Y'rel) are more than enough.
Done haha
Krucial then Vol'jin and Varian get killed...
"YOU WILL ALL DIE!"
"just you..."
FUCKING EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I feel bad for Garrosh :/
"You made me Warchief!"
"You left me!"
"You failed MEEEE!"
He failed himself
@@wastedviking6280 he never asked to be a warchief in the first place. It is an asshole move to put such a responsibility on someone's shoulders and then blame him for doing a bad job.
@@BooguyTheAdept Well not only that it's an asshole move to put that on him and then just leave Lmao, then coming back and play the hero =D
@@wastedviking6280 yeah that's the point. Thrall is not a "hero" in this one. He was just cleaning up the mess he caused.
He never wanted to become a warchief, thrall should have put Saurfang in charge and not him, he was not ready, he should have remained a warsong overlord.
"You never had the strength of a true warrior"
"BUT I HAVE HAX"
I have a feeling that while we're all in dreanor, the real world is going to find out that the new lich king has awoken.. oh boy.
But thats impossible the Lich King is Bolvar and his spirit will forever remain unbroken.
kendrick warren Bolvar could be the new lich king, it's there in plain sight.
im hoping for a Dark below expansion with Azshara and her naga
For anyone that's confused. This is an alternate timeline, Grom (Large orc holding axe) is garroshes father in the normal story he drinks the blood and becomes stronger but slaves to the fel energy. So in this timeline garrosh let's his father know of what will come of the orcs if he were to drink. So Grom refuses kills mannaroth with the help of his son (who actually isn't born yet) and become the true horde who fight to conquer not only draenor but azeroth. Which is where WOD will take place defending azeroth against the iron horde.
Amorian Duranin I've been hoping to face off against Azshara for years, though I think it would be better as one of the last expansion packs before the game ends. With her power rivalling Sargeras himself and being the servant of an old god, she'd be the second ultimate end game boss. For the final expansion, I'd love to face off against the Titans themselves and defend Azeroth against their attempts to "reboot" the world.
The Blackhand cinematic was def my favorite.
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"Maraad... how?"
"In the light... we are one."
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"What do you want, little girl?"
"Your head."
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"Such arrogance to believe that you alone could defeat me."
"Together."
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"You will all die!"
"Just you."
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who was that orc she said that two?
Thrall to his grandchildren: "And that how i dealt with this bodybuilder... go to sleep now."
Thrall grandchildren: "So.... you pull out guns and shoot him in a fist fight ? ಠ_ಠ "
Thrall is such a traitor to the Orcish tradition. He killed Garrosh in such an embarrassing and unfair way.
Indeed... he cowardly used the elements when he lost the fight.
Adrián Acevedo Shamans are there to guide the Orcs to the right path, not to cheat in a traditional fair duel.
SilenceStabber Exactly. Thrall showed no strength nor honor in this battle.
Adrián Acevedo Mak'gora is a duel, a duel of honour. It's even Thrall who provoked the Mak'gora, and he thought he could win fairly, but instead he cheated after his face was in dirt just like a typical kid that lost a 1vs1 fight. Sure Thrall intended to kill Garrosh, but he still cheated in the duel, and this actually made Garrosh won the fight as a true Orc.
...because the Iron Horde is a justified movement and Garrosh did nothing wrong. We as players in this game have fought against the wrong enemy.
Without want destroy your joy, but have an mouse pointer in the middle.
lol that was my bad :P
To be fair, it's quite a sexy cursor.
***** Yep. Me too. Every minute i had to remind myself that this is NOT my cursor -.-
Broken eyes see the cursor.
Garrosh forgot that warriors are shit in PvP with no healer
The dialogue between Thrall and Garrosh during their fight somehow reminds me of Anakins and Obi Wans fight in episode 3!
Haha :D well me too
Garrosh: "You underestimate my POWER!"
Thrall: *lightning into face*
The feels between garrosh and thrall though
Garrosh should have used his pvp trinket to get out of that molten hand
Yep
Other than the garrison cinematics this was amazing with garrosh dead its sorta like the end of a era
yeah it really does. a one year era with SoO.
+That BIGguy been so long since i watched this lol your right soo lasted way to long lol
Holy shit the last one is so damn epic, an orc holding a draeneï weapon and a draeneï hoding durotan's axe, that's what this expansion is all about!
spoilers: 6:21 "Garrosh Hellscream, by order of all of azeroth,the alliance and horde alike, we hereby sentence you to the electric fist.
i hope you all are enjoying this!!!!!! big time hype!!!! please don't forget to subscribe !
You have earned my subscription this was incredible!
thank you! alot more to come!
that BIG guy Now I just need to get a team together!
that BIG guy loved it! although am i the only one who finds garrosh's death was depressing.
Bonzai Games I think you are, Thrall was Bad Ass!
The chills I get when Ga'nar yells Lok'tar at 2:45. that song + that situation = most epic wow moment ever.
I'm pretty sure I could find it if I went looking for it.
IwuzLeft4Dead Have you found it yet? :D
Mario Dud
been really busy, not yet! but ill try more x.x
The death of maraad remind me the death of optimis prime G1 animated movie
I was really worried they were just going to give Garrosh a poor send off. Glad to see they did him justice. Actually felt sorry for the guy.
Green jesus doesn't turn the other cheek
Well Thrall is as bad as Gul'Dan was in the Warcraft movie,he cheated in the Mak'gora
The rules aren't set in stone, it can vary based on the challenge.
I've never seen the 1 weapon limit change, and each element is pretty much like an extra weapon, so he had like 6 weapons that match.
Well, he didnt want to be warchief, but Thrall kinda forced him into becoming one. Then, after some missunderstandings (Cairne's death and stuff) all other Horde leader kinda hates him and he felt kinda like... out...
He had kinda like a reason to do all that he did.
Literally any other person would not have fucked up as much as he did. He never relied on anyone else, he used threats over diplomacy and he didn't work together with the other leaders at ALL.
Also, ffs, seriously? Are you people all mentally retarded? Garrosh is OLDER than Thrall. This isn't the 'OMG this poor young guy was given too much power by this older, more experienced guy!'. Thrall had more responsibility when he was even younger and managed to do the right thing. The mentality of the person is essential in determining the outcome.
Nathrezim0 Yep, youre right, any other wouldnt have fucked it up as much as him. Thats why letting him as warchief was a big mistake. A big mistake that Thrall made.
And he didnt rely on anyone neither anyone relied on him. He felt quite alone.
Man, this expansion history is AWESOME!!! Thanks for the video!!
Well garrosh has a point, Thrall made him Warchief and just left him without guidance ... so he ruled like in the "glory" days of the horde which thrall talked about : / also: High Respect to the voice actor, garrosh really sounds like he was going to cry at a moment! :D
Dude fucking, I almost cried at that scene.. shit. Those last few lines from Garrosh hurt. He did a lot of questionable stuff but I mean yeah Thrall just kind of threw him out into the fray. Thrall was the one that picked him up from Nagrand where he was pouting.
Stephanie Mcknight can you really blame him though? I mean just looked at what happened in Northrend. Garrosh was put in charge and was doing a really good job then the Forsaken betray him, the Alliance blames him for the Forsaken attack, leaving Garrosh with a real bad taste in his mouth about the Alliance and everyone else who wasn't an orc or didn't unquestionably stand with him. All he did, he did to restore the Horde. His intentions were noble, sadly the most evil of deeds are born from noble intentions taken too far... the whole thing is really tragic.
SuperRavensblood especially because he swore he will never be like his corrupted father but ended like him anyways, just not by demons but by an Old God : /
There is a reason why blizzard uses those lines for garrosh.....and i have pretty good speculation on why they did that.....also ever since garrosh died thrall well he kinda MIA
SuperRavensblood I have always said that as well.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions,as they say.
wow... garroshs death hit me more than i thought... R.I.P Garrosh
i think the most Emotional was when Maraad sacrificed himself to save Yrel...
''In the light... we are one''
He saved her with the last power of the light...and redeemed himself
He didn't save the refugee's
But he did save Yrel
P.S The Electric Chair thing Thrall did was awesome
Let's all thank Garrosh for letting Thrall reunite with his old pops
Also Velen(Our Timeline)did like nothing...i thought Draenei we're so keen on going back to Draenor...
I guess not
You know what is the best Heroic moment?
2:16
Just watch how he kills the assholes in his endless Bloodlust...
2:36 he's got plate armor....you can't kill him idiot :P
2:43 LOK'TAR!!!!!
Michael Lansberg Garrosh's death hit me hard as well. He is a sad story of a child who never matured. He was given mantle of Warchief, a responsibility too great for him to handle. Anyone who disagreed with him just made him go into a tantrum and pushed everyone away. Garrosh's very last words is blaming Thrall for all his actions. It is sad cause Garrosh could have been different if he never was Warchief to begin with and had time to grow.
10 bucks says he comes back
Michael Lansberg At least I can still impregnate Yrel in wod now that Maraad is gone amirite
dont worry he'l ask for a ress
That end-of-Talador cinematic is probably my 2nd favorite that Blizz has ever done. I get so charged from it.
I love how you saved the best cinematic for last. :D
THAT FCKING MOUSE CURSOR
Thrall is having none of your shit today, Garrosh, lol
Moon Ray that need to be a shirt
That BIGguy lol, totally would buy it
That BIGguy Hahahah ya!!
***** I don't think Warcraft fights were ever only about a psychical combat and bbrutal force.
*****
Well I think there were situations where shamans and warlocks were defeated by a warrior. Or how to say it, someone who doesn't use spells and similiar stuff. It all depends on the character and how experienced they are.
That last one was amazing.
It's so infuriating that they had all this wonderful stuff while leveling, and then just completely and utterly gave up on the rest of the expansion. What a shame.
I remember the first time I saw these cinematics in-game, and I still get the same goosebumps now as I did then. Lok'tar ogar, Ga'nar.
Daem, i watch those videos everyday, and everytime, i got a tear coming out :')
When Blackhand screamed: "YOU WILL ALL DIE!!" my spine froze. So epic.
Do you know why the Shadowmoon Cinematic was the best?
No cheesy Blizzard dialogue to ruin the big moment..
Talador on the other hand...
QQ
Hehe.
"What do you want, little girl?" "Your head."
Yeah, ok.
Ah Miz " YOU WILL ALL"
Perish? Be destroyed? Slaughtered?
" DIIEEEE"- blackhand you haven't had a single original thing to say your whole life :(
Ah Miz If that line were used in an action thriller, the dudes would be eating it up.
10:22 Avenging Wrath! As a paladin, this makes me super happy to see one of our core abilities used in a cinematic :D
Your mouse pointer freaked me out for a moment.
that wierd looking orc in about 9:00 cinematic is who,he looks a bit like Garrosh,but i dont know him!?
Sorry for questions,havent played WoD! :)
HardMusicCore believe it or not its blackhand lol he had a lil mishap with the elements.
damn,he looks wierd,pretty much more like some kind of fire elemental orc then some war mongerer :D
But still a pretty good mix up!
Nice job Blizz :D
That BIGguy Yep, he sacrificed his hand to the Heart of the Mountain to gain power over the Earth, hence why the Blackrock are the only clan capable of smelting Blackrock Ore :D
FrostwolfAdventures where can i find more ?
HardMusicCore It is Blackhand
Thank god we are done with Garrosh for real this time. Kudos to Thrall for cleaning up his biggest mistake in life. I thought he was gonna go soft but nope lit that sorry ass like a Christmas tree.
I'd say Maraad and Thrall made a pretty good team at the portal.
Holy crap. At 1:11, the guy that speaks is Tarturus (I probably spelt that wrong) from Halo 2!
That last cinematic is just epic! Well done Blizzard!
Does anyone else feel this expansion was more about the Draenei and their "second chance" more than the orcs and their ancestry? Playing both I felt more emotionally invested in the plot of the Draenei than that of the Orcs.
Is garrosh gone now for real? IF YES, that is just bullshit, Garrosh is awsome.
Why does everyone like Garrosh? He is just and arrogant prick. I've wanted him dead since WoTLK but instead they killed off Saurfang.
Justin Crawford It's called the "Draco in leather pants syndrome". No matter how much of a douche the bad guy is, some people choose to remain blind to his dickery.
Ummm, right. Sorry, but I'm not going to discuss warchief policies with a person who can't write coherently nor refrain from insulting his opponents.
Try again, maybe sounding less like Garrosh throwing a tantrum. Oh, wait.
Look at my name. Then look at your comment. Then look at my name again. Check my G+ profile. Where am I from? I'm from Poland, where people don't speak English as a native language. Sadly, English isn't your native language either, but you could speak it as well as I do if you only made an effort. You could also make an effort to be offensive in a witty and veiled way, which you are not.
I'm on a Brewfest Kodo.
Mind communicating in a language which regular people can understand? I tried to find info on what you just said, but could only find some League of Legends nonsense.
Spoiler alert: Did anyone else get that mental feeling when Ner'Zhul summoned the Dark Star?: Well, there he is, the original form of what would be the Lich King.
I know I have little reason to be, but I am freaking hyped by these videos.
great work man! i cant wait to watch the other ones.
I don't know why people blame Thrall. He was right. Garrosh chose to do shitty things and justify it. Nobody made Garrosh do anything. He was already messed up to begin with if he was willing to commit such crimes. Sometimes upbringings can warp people and you do have people that can go through similar things and not all turn into lunatics. Depends on the person.
I am Saurfang. Brother of Broxigar. You know me to be the Supreme Commander of the Might of Kalimdor. An orc - a true orc warrior - wishes for one thing: To die in the glory of battle against a hated enemy. Some of you have fought in battles. Peace has been with us for many years. Many years we sat idle but many years we battled. In those years - where strife the land and Legion and Scourge sacked our homes, killed our families - these insects dwelled beneath us. Beneath our homes - waiting. Waiting to crush the life from our little ones. To slay all in their path. This they do for their god. And for our gods? We defend. We stand. We show that as one. United. We destroy. Their god will fall. To die today, on this field of battle, is to die an orcish death. To die today is to die for our little ones. Our old ones. Our... loved ones. Would any of you deny yourselves such a death? Such an honor?"
-High Overlord Saurfang addressing the Might of Kalimdor
*High Overlord Saurfang says:* So the prodigal son has spoken! Your father's blood runs strong in you, Hellscream. Impatient as always... Impatient and reckless. You rush headlong into all-out war without a thought of the consequences.
*Garrosh Hellscream says:* Do not speak to me of consequences, old one.
*High Overlord Saurfang says:* I drank of the same blood your father did, Garrosh. Mannoroth's cursed venom pumped through my veins as well. I drove my weapons into the bodies and minds of my enemies. And while Grom died a glorious death - freeing us all from the blood curse - he could not wipe away the terrible memory of our past. His act could not erase the horrors we committed.
The winter after the curse was lifted, hundreds of veteran orcs like me were lost to despair. Our minds were finally free, yes... Free to relive all of the unthinkable acts that we had performed under the Legion's influence.
I think it was the sounds of the draenei children that unnerved most of them... You never forget... Have you ever been to Jaggedswine Farm? When the swine are of age for the slaughter... It's that sound. The sound of the swine being killed... It resonates the loudest. Those are hard times for us older veterans.
*Garrosh Hellscream says:* But surely you cannot think that those children were born into innocence? They would have grown up and taken arms against us!
*High Overlord Saurfang says:* I am not speaking solely of the children of our enemies...
I won't let you take us down that dark path again, young Hellscream. I'll kill you myself before that day comes...
*Garrosh Hellscream says:* How have you managed to survive for so long, Saurfang? Not fallen victim to your own memories?
*High Overlord Saurfang says:* I don't eat pork...
someone else who understands saurfang. he is such a bad-ass. i remember seeing the alliance go for the side entrance cause if they went in the front saurfang would eat them for breakfast.
The Garrosh death scene can definitely spark some Garrosh sympathy. Thrall did kind of abandon him to go to the maelstrom kinda like,"K I'm leaving now bai.". And I believe that Garrosh did do what he thought was right for the Horde. Though he may have gone a liiiiittle off the deep end at the end, he did the best he could. RIP in Peace Garrosh you did a thing once.
I think the important thing to remember is that he was most likely being whispered to by Y'shaarj as soon as he came onto the island.
Thrall shouldn't have left him in charge, but it's kind of hard to judge isn't it? Thrall was needed to save the world from blowing up it's kinda hard to step away from that, though maybe he should have come back sooner.
And on Garrosh I constantly go back and fourth with the whole "he did what he thought was best for the Horde" angle. Maybe in his mind, but when considering how badly he treated all the non-Orc races of the Horde including the Darkspear trolls and Tauren who showed nothing but unwavering loyalty to the new Horde since its beginnings it makes it a little harder for me to feel too much sympathy because it makes me wonder just...what he thought was best for the Horde to begin with. Whatever it was it obviously didn't involve anything but Orcs.
He shouldn't have been left in charge to begin with he obviously wasn't ready, but I really think it's arguable whether he really did what he thought was best for the Horde because at times it seemed more like he just wanted to turn the Horde into what HE wanted it to be at any cost.
Is there a name of the soundtrack at 6:25 ? [DE]: Haben die einen Namen für den Soundtrack am Ende vom Kampf von Thrall und Garrosh bei 6:25 ?
i love that tauren at 0:46 that's walking ahead of everyone almost like "I got this fellas stand back"
LOK'TAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why didn't Thrall help Drek'Thar in the 2nd cinematic? He's a pretty powerful Shaman and can control elements lol, he was just standing there dumbfounded.
Alijamaru He had said during the fight at the portal when you first arrive that the elements here were unfamiliar to him and his power was quickly fading. Presumably, after he meets Drek'Thar he gets some experience in old-school Orcish shamanism and becomes more acquainted with the elements on Draenor, leading to his victory over Garrosh.
bill withers Oh I see, thanks.
+bill withers are this draenor elements stronger than the ones in azeroth?
+L. Reptiler I'd assume not simply because the Burning Legion were using the Orcs to soften up Azeroth. Thrall spent most of his life outside of Dreanor so i'm not all to shocked he it took him awhile to get reasserted there, but it doesn't make sense if you play a Mage.
Thrall
***** Normally games explain why the player isn't affected by things like that. Wow just shits on it.
And so ends the Garrosh Trilogy of WoW, i call Vanilla-TBC-WOTLK as the Arthas Trilogy, because so many things were connected to Arthas, the Plaguelands, the sight of devastation in the Blood Elf Starter Zone, and the WOTLK expansion itself. while Cata-MoP-WOD is the Garrosh Trilogy, with Garrosh rising as a Warchief, then as a warmongering despot, and finally a underling to what could've been his own father, only to die in this expansion, much like Arthas died in WotLK. I wonder if the principal antagonist in the next three expansion will be Wrathion given how underhanded he became since his birth.
Nice of blizz to finaly introduce some "personal" story, thanks for the recolection
Does anyone happen to know the name of the song that plays from 2:50 to 4:15? Love that piece of soundtrack and must have it.
Thanks for putting this here for us lore-nerds. But for the love of all that is holy, can you move the damn mouse to the right edge of the screen or something in the future?
Fransens no
I cry evreytim
I miss Mists of Pandaria it was such a good expansion :/
Mimaloodak lol i hope you trolling
that BIG guy you have a panda picture on your profile...lol
Nerd Gasm that's because chen stormstout is a bad ass.
that BIG guy yeah i guess so
^^
fuck green jesus - honestly i don´t mind that Garrosh was ended, but THIS doens´t felt like a "worthy" death for him, not like a warriors death - feels like Thrall "cheated" imo
"YOU made me warchief" - "YOU left me, to pick up YOUR pieces"...
yeah he deserved a better death.
On the other hand, it does close out Garrosh's story nicely by ending it where it began. It started with Thrall telling him, effectively, to man up and look to his own deeds and accomplishments instead of focusing on what others have done.
And it ends the *EXACT SAME WAY*... in the exact same place.
Personally, for him to have a "warriors death" he would have to be bested by a warrior. Aside from Varian, I cannot think of any straight up warrior that could go toe to toe with Garrosh... And we've already seen that he would rather see Garrosh on trial.
He died in a Mok'gora he agreed to. That is as honorable of a death that someone like Garrosh could receive.
***** I don't think Garrosh is dead yet. They could potentially bring him back. During the assault on Orgrimmar, Sylvannas offered to resurrect blood elf troops which means she can resurrect other races including orcs which might mean she could resurrect Garrosh. She even offered to defend him in trial which means she implies she needs him for something bigger. She also has a distaste for Vol'Jin which means she might be looking to over throw him. Besides that, it looks to me like Garrosh's hand move slightly at the end so he may still be alive.
You feel like Thrall cheated? He is a shaman he is gonna have to use the elementals and stuff, Thrall kicked his butt, but he left Garrosh with nothing really.
If they made an animated series in this style and with this degree of quality I would totally watch it! And I'm not even a WoW-player ...
So it's been said a few times by now so I figured I'd share it with you guys who haven't seen this yet.
After we get to Draenor we basically free Gul'dan, Teron'gor and Cho'gall since they were bound and are forcing to keep the Dark Portal open in this "timeline". After we free them they all go in portals and we don't see them again for a while. Teron'gor we find in Auchindoun but when we defeat him he jumps off the platform. So we have no clue if he's dead (he most likely isn't though). During all of this with Garrosh and Thrall and all the other questing around Draenor the only thing we end up figuring out is during the legendary quest line we have absolutely no clue where Gul'dan and Cho'gall are at. Ner'zhul is going about the dark star and using it to kill everything and then he goes to Aunchindoun as well. We know Blackhand and Kor'gath are in raids, Durotan we obviously meet in Frostfire Ridge, and Nerzhul as mentioned is in Auchindoun. But what are Grommash, Gul'dan and Kilrogg all doing?
When we arrive on Draenor and the portal is closed down after we save those 3 guys we're chased out of Tanaan jungle (and you'll figure this out when you play but you actually can not go back into Tanaan jungle yet.. it's restricted off which is probably why flying isn't allowed at the moment). We can assume that Kilrogg is helping Grom since Kilrogg's clan is in Tanaan jungle anyways. We do know arriving there that they are constructing something. A sort of... fortress..
Think back to Outland and the original lore. What was the fortress that was used sort of as a base for the Orc's onslaught into Azeroth? Guessed it yet? You could say it's a sort of... citadel.
We also don't know what the blood of Mannoroth is still doing up there in the Throne of Kil'jaeden (or whatever it's named in Draenor, this is just what it is named in Outland in the "future"). Demons are already invading Shattrath when we get to Draenor so there's that. The Legion is doing something that's all we know for sure.
Anyways this went way off track but I'm willing to bet that since Gul'dan is missing and we don't know for sure where he's at that he's probably still experimenting with Death Knights. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Teron'gor ends up still becoming Teron Gorefiend anyways alongside with Garrosh.
Who also knows... the Death Knights were Gul'dan's way of kind of coming back into the "Horde" and not being killed. He could show this to Grommash (who might be sickened but who knows. We don't even really know if Garrosh ever told him that he was his son anyways) and end up being a boss in that Citadel. This part could or could not happen though.
(shortened version): I strongly believe something with the blood of Mannoroth still on the Throne of Kil'jaeden as far as the legion is going to happen, Gul'dan still using DK's and resurrecting Garrosh and Hellfire Citadel ( *cough* ) ending up becoming a raid.
The tip of the Horde spear, no greater honor! For Nazgrim!!
R.I.P Nazgrim =(
why on earth, would you leave the cursor IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN???!!!!
wait the draenei at 10:11 if she could revive durotan so why didn't she revive velen :(
Maraad* And was because maraad was dead, durotan was severely wounded i think
because she didn't revive him, she used lay on hands ;p
Sejuck
God damn pally magic. First survive things that will kill everyone else with Bubble, then use Lay on Hands. Why not use a hearthstone while shes at it?
so maraad is gone?? :'(
Moh Dead Yup, he's dead...
What the music from the episode of Velen death? plz write me!
3:04 That cold and dead voice... do you remember? the voice of the first Lich King...I'm happy with those little details
World of Warcraft - where "Storm the Portal" actually means, "Sit back and let Thrall and Velen kick ass."
HarakMolova lol you think a mage is going to do all the hard work lol.
that BIG guy As a mage... I take no offense to that. It's very true.
hahahahah!!!!
That's not Velen, it's Maraad.
decayed angel Ahhh, thank you very much. I always confuse one goat with another.
Am I the only one that agrees with Garrosh here, regarding Thrall's actions, and decision in making him Warchief?
That's the thing with blizzard, they always make you feel remorse for the end bosses, Kael'thas was once a prince and did everything to save his people, Illidan's story is really sad too between Malfurion and Tyrande, Arthas is the same thing and now garrosh, except Deathwing was also once the aspect of earth he was manipulated.
I will never understand why Thrall chose Garrosh over Vol'jin or Cairn Bloodhoof, both would have been excellent choices. They were more experienced for leadership, yes Garrosh was a hero but still that doesn't make him the most trustworthy candidate. I do feel bad for Garrosh in the end. Thrall really did leave a shitty plate for Garrosh.
There is a reason why blizzard did that and i have a really good speculation on why.Also i suspected that ever since garrosh dies thrall has been sort of MiA throught out the remaining zones.....he might have a drama talk with grommash who knows....
Isn't Yrel simply... amazing?
decayed angel yeah she is, but what happens to her after WOD? she not from our timeline.
Maybe she returns with the others to our timeline? Or maybe the two timelines remain... parallel? I would seriously have a rage fit if she died, i didn't even get to play WoD but i already love this character. I do hope they find a way around to keep her.
same here, well the destroyed the portal, on there side thats why we are stuck there. so idk what they going to do.
Don't you find it simply epic how Orcs and Draenei, the two races that held burning grudges each against the other, fight here extremely well side by side? Maraad and Thrall, damn, kickass team. Yrel and Durotan, speechless, that was such a beautiful moment.
vary true! the enemy of my enemy is my friend kinda feel to it.
That intro, Thrall and Maraad kickin' ass together, as impossible as it is, I'd want to see more of that!
The second one… oh my god this gave me chills I remember when I first saw this
mouse in the center = dislike
I think this is all going to end with Gul'dan turning out to be the main threat, summoning the full force of the Burning Legion into Draenor. Hellscream realizes his mistakes and turns the Iron Horde against the Legion, with the Horde, Alliance and Iron Horde uniting against the far more dangerous threat, lead by Kil'jaeden.
the data mined green-skinned, glowing red eyed Grom using the new model?
ZanathKariashi Jesus Christ, they're really that predictable and made Grom have Burning Crusade syndrome.
So he's the 'Final' raid boss (Like illidan) but then SUDDENLY DEMONS and kil'jaeden/Archimond is the true final boss in Draenor!Sunwell. Who writes for Blizzard again so I can knock them upside the head with a book?
Also I don't play the game anymore, just have a curiosity where the story has been going since I left.
Goraka91 well ya...this expansion is slightly just before the big invasion of demons...
ZanathKariashi I cant find this information anywhere..
Goraka91 and no...grom isnt the final boss
5:50 never challenge a shaman...coz this will happen to you...lol
Blizzard know how to do their cinematics. i can't wait for the ones in legion.
Music at 2:23? Track starts as Khadgar's Plan, but it ends differently, anyone knows the name?
Was i the only who tried to move the mouse pointer in the middle?
Harmony Dissonance lol yeah sorry about that.
that BIG guy It's okay. Thanks for the awesome video!
That epic cursor tho!!
Poor maraad he sacrife himslef ! warlords epic expansion
Isn't that Velen? or am I wrong.
yves govaerts Well both of them sacrifice. Marad to protect that uber girl, and Valen to destroy that Star.
Dem spine tingling shivers tho... Looking forward to this expansion so much :)
Garrosh : "You don't have the strength of a true warrior"
Thrall : no shit I'm shaman
2:24 chills
Thrall cheated, he has body armor on. In Mak'Gora they must have no body armor and are not allowed to use magic. Only brute force was allowed
They weren't fighting in Mak'Gora. Thrall basically just wanted to kill garrosh for his crimes.
Alex Liddell Thrall did actually challenge Garrosh in Mak'Gora of the old ways in this. At least that's what I read.
Bobby Mucka If it was Mak'gora they would be wearing loincloths anyway lol I don't think this was an official duel, just a fight.
Thrall wanted to end it.....he used the mak'gora just to deal with garrosh alone...even if it was dishonorful....he will gladly bear it
Want to get technical about it then neither of them would have Honor cuz even Garrosh had his weapon so it was basically just a fight
While I enjoy the cinematics for WoW, I can't help but notice the lack of player participation. That's why I usually play SW:TOR now because of how immersive and story-changing the players choices are. Just my two cents.
WOW that the warchief actually gets the death penalty! awesome clips!
i never played wow serious, but i love blizzards cutscenes and cinematics :) this was great too
Epic moment: LOK'TAR