Mystery Ranch - Are They Really That Good ?
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I don't understand, I watch some channels 6 minute videos about space or science or anything really, and I get bored and I'm looking at other stuff. But I can sit down and watch a 40 minute Wranglerstar video on backpacks and have no clue where the time went.
No regrets! Love it!
+Adam Lehman Thank you Adam.
+Adam Lehman same
+Adam Lehman I agree. Tools are cool !.
ikr. Lol
same
My stepdaughter works at Mystery Ranch. Thanks for the support!
+Bennington Camper great packs
Tell her thanks for me. I just bought the Hotspeed and it's perfect, I love it!
Dana Gleason (founder of Dana Design and now Mystery Ranch) knows how to build a back...and in particular, suspension systems for carrying heavy loads. He's an absolute legend in the industry. Great to see he's branched out to serve the military, fire crews, etc. I've got an old Dana Design Terraplane pack in the close that's gotta be 20+ years old at this point and it's still usable. Their stuff is built to last.
If you aren't an instructor, you missed your calling... I could listen to you all day and learn tons of stuff... Now... lets talk about forest fires... and .. and... and... excellent video... thanks
+everwharesismine Thank you.
everwharesismine because you watched it, he IS an instructor
@@wranglerstar this point is still valid to this day, thank you for all the great content
Most of the bulk military backpacks are made by Arc'teryx and Eagle industries. They also have some very suspicious companies that appear only to bid on bulk purchases. The companies fulfill the contract, then disappear. Mystery Ranch is one of the newer military contracts that's actually reputable. Im glad they make product for the civilian market.
+TheJohn8765 // This is called "trading on their name." The name is still there after they got established. But the quality isn't.
Seems a good system. I know nothing about them, but when your life depends on the equipment, $200 extra seems a good deal.
i know i'll never need to use that pack, but damn it was just so much fun watching u explore and explain it! keep making videos like this on all kinds of stuff!
+Life & Times of JCM thank you
I've been wanting a wildland pack for sometime and have been comparing and researching pack designs (including Coaxsher, True North and NarGear). There's another RUclipsr who is also in your line of work recommending this pack.
Thanks so much for your time and effort to do this. Mystery Ranch's "Futura Harness" really gives this pack so much functionality.
the quickclips on the bladder pack you were raving on are MOLLE clips. easily puchasable for many great purposes.
its nice to see people who know intimately pass on knowledge to those that have limited experience, great vid.
Wow, 40 minutes on a pack and you made it interesting.
+Tom Olofsson Thank you Tom
Duck you tom
Should invest in a US Army Poncho liner. very compact duvet for wrapping up in at night.
good call.
I never leave home without mine. It's saved my backside so many times during my 10 years in the Army, and now afterwards..
The Woobie and duvet should never be in the same sentence.
Someone stole my woobie, now I got to get me a new one.
Not surprised to see Mystery Ranch is Wranglerstar approved, hope it serves you well this season! What's that great looking watch you're wearing?
www.wranglermart.com/
His watch is on the second tab, you'll find it.
The mouth piece cap is to keep dirt and dust off of the bite valve. Favorite part about that camel back is when you're hiking and you plop down to stuff some food or an mre and need water, you just detach the mouth piece like you did and out it comes quick as you need. You don't have to take it off your back or do anything. Great design. I also love the baffle inside the bladder because it keeps it from ballooning out when full or sloshing as much when running.
this is no different than your boots. Buy the premium gear that you'll be wearing on your person all day for weeks at a time. The differences seem small, but when fatigue sets in, you won't have the energy to fuss with poorly designed or cheaply constructed gear. It has to work, without taking your gloves off. At the last hour of a long hitch, it has to work.
+Darryl Machtmes yes
Wranglerstar. Whats your opinion of eberlestock. I am looking into heavy duty packs, and their j 79 looks perfect to my needs.
One of the most remarkable things about Wranglerstar is that he seems like such a good person - no cursing and running companies down. Just keen observations by someone who seems to understand how equipment should be designed and how it should work.
+Richard Dean Thank you Richard. He is a good person - married well! :) mrsw
that was one Heartfelt great review that just sucked me in and left me on the edge of me seat about a waterproof zipper lining stitching and the little things that make people excited about their gear. really felt it. loved watching you geek out on it. 😎👌👍
btw orange stitching on black ballistic nylon and or leather is my favorite (like the 3L on the water bladder) so you're not alone it's cool to like sharp details like that
I don't fight fires, but this design looks awesome for people who have back problems. Being able to lower the weight closer to your waist and off the middle of your back looks like a huge benefit.
Thanks, Cody. This was a good review. Don't worry about the video length. Many of us loved it. When I first went into forestry there were no options. So I took my big green canvas FSS back pack to the boot repair shop and had more pockets put in it and some adjustments made. That helped. But all our gear was either military or made to go with the military gear. I was glad to see you have lanyards on your smaller ready items. That's good forestry method. I kept my Ranger compass (comes with a lanyard) where you have your GPS. And a FS map too. (We didn't have GPS back then.) Perhaps the only thing you didn't mention was spare batteries. But I think you covered that before. Thanks again.
Thought I'd share a tidbit of information. I have a Gregory backpack from 1978 I still use regularly. It has that same telescoping yoke system. It was custom fitted when you purchased it and the A16 store in San Diego had those plastic boards to unzip the velcro and tune each pack they sold. BTW when Wayne Gregory founded the company he started in a little room at the same A16 sports shop in San Diego. I know he later sold the company and things changed dramatically, but my pack was handmade in that shop and is still going strong! Pay for quality and you'll never regret it. Always enjoy your video's. Keep up the great work.
Great review! I'm a big Mystery Ranch fan, probably had six of their packs. I'm considering a new fire pack from them to use as a daypack/survival kit. Looks like it carries well!
I have a few Dana Designs from back in the 90's still going strong. I just wish the new backpacking packs were made in the USA.
+canesrock82 Many of the MR packs are made abroad. Check the site. The Legend is made abroad as are most of the "back packing" line.
lots of foresight and attention to detail, great pack. I love it too when I find something that is just right and convenient.
Great review Cody! I'm an IA FF on the Columbia River, and you convinced me to get the Mystery Ranch Hotspeed. It's an absolute genius pack for us engine guys. I added the medic brain since I'm an emt and we don't really carry medical gear in our trucks. It's simple, clean, durable and works. And as a funny side note, I'm watching this on May 18th 🤣
The comment about CamelBak being tacky with their naming was hilarious.
I've always wondered about the mystery ranch line. I've heard of them, but never seen anything in such detail. Thanks for sharing.
Bottom line; yes MR line packs are TOTALLY worth it. I’ve worn USFS web gear, Crew Boss line pack & tried out that same Coaxsher & the MR beats them all by a mile. Thanks for the comprehensive review.
I just spent 40 minutes watching a video featuring a back-pack I can't justify spending the money on but was enthralled the entire time. Well done and that's a fantastic pack.
Cody I think 8 litres is about 2 u.s. gallons if that helps. I rather like the metric system I struggle with math so being able to just move the decimal point just keeps things nice and simple instead of converting fractions but that's just me.
+bert26a I'm learning to love the metric system too.
+Roger Lamb You know it makes sense ;)
Ok 8 liters is 17.6 pounds or 2.11338 gallons of water.
8 liters is 8 kilograms :)
of water, yes! not in general... ;)
If I didn't know any better, you sound as though you were the architect, engineer and lead the manufacturing team to ensure every detail on this Mystery Ranch was made to perfection. Plus, you'd make a helluva salesman. Your knowledge and speaking ability are phenomenal. I just bought my first Mystery Ranch, the Scree 32 liter, backpack and I love it! I normally buy military surplus, new and used, because I know that I can depend on them to withstand all of the pressures and abuse involved in the activities I enjoy. If I can find the right Mystery Ranch backpack for winter use I would get rid of all of my other packs, some 25 or so. At 73 the two packs would be it for the remainder of my time on earth.
I love the videos on your fire gear. I don't do wildland fires, but I see a lot of purpose in using these when I camp or go in the outdoors. Definitely checking out their hunting rig. Thanks again Cody for an entertaining honest review that feels like it came from a good friend.
+Niel Simons Thank you Niel
+Wranglerstar You're most welcome
Nice set-up and nice video. Regarding the clips you showed pertaining to the 3L bladder bag, those same clips are on the Oakley Chamber Range backpack. I don't use them but yes, they are neat. Look into GrimLocs. A bit bigger but thicker materials and a bit more "beefy" but light weight.
Cody,
This is the "Steel Yard" guy from the meet 'n greet in Asheville. Though I am not a Fireman of any sort I really appreciated the attention to detail you took in pointing out the quality of build and care taken in these packs. I spent many hours back packing in gear that was substandard or ill-fitting and for lack of better words "I (could) feel your pain." Firemen would understand the "LIFE AND DEATH" nature of the fire ground and needing the best money can buy but to the average guy it is exceedingly difficult to grasp. However, I think you made the argument to both in this video and though I will probably never face those types of danger I am going to check out their gear shearly for the seam stitching and sealing. PS Loved the "No-tech Palm Pilot:" I do it all the time so I can't loose my reminder notes.
Thank you for the great video. I ordered a hunting pack from mystery ranch mostly because of your video. One of the main reason was the American made part. after I got the bag I decided to do a unboxing and I have plans todo a review once I get a few miles on the pack. I got onto the mystery ranch web site to get all the specs and I realized the pack was imported. I started searching there site and realized the only packs made in America are the military and the fire packs. Witch bummed me out a little. The pack still is good made pack but I would have went elsewhere if I had known it wasn't made in America. And yes this is my fault I just assumed it was made here. But for others looking at packs that are not made for military or fire are not made in America it kinda makes me feel like I'm not as important as a regular consumer as the other guys and yes the military and the fire guys should get the best quality possible but I feel like for the money I'm spending I'm just as important
I appreciate the unbiased nature of the review. Too many times I watch reviews of items sent to content providers free-for-review which seems like a bit of quid pro quo in and of itself. I wonder how unbiased they really are.
Hey Cody, A bit of trivia for you. In 2008 I was working on the Basin Complex as an FMET. The line pack I was using stunk and I ordered a mystery ranch shipped over night to fire camp. After using it for a few weeks (The pack its self got me extended into a great operation) I had the idea that I needed an engine version. After a few weeks of pestering I got a call from Dana the owner of Mystery Ranch. I told him I wanted the bag from the Hot3 removed and slimmed down but need to retain the shelter holder on the back. Out of that the Hot Spot was born. I am still running the prototype today. At that time the removable bag didn't exist. That came out of a helitack crew from LA County Fire. Glad to see you like the Hot Spot.
In addition to making great packs they are really nice folks. If you happen to find yourself in Bozeman MT stop on by and see them in person. They fitted a couple of the packs I bought at no charge and had most of their line available to look at and try on when deciding which to get. I've got 3 of their packs (G5000, Hot Top and 3 Day Assault) and although they are far from "ultralight" they are so well designed, comfortable and bomber that the extra weight is a non-issue. As you highlighted, their gear will hold up to the heaviest of use and for casual users can be expected to last a lifetime. They are an example of the best in American business quality and ethics - thanks for bringing their products to a wider audience!
Today i just made my order, 800$ for a Hotshot TL and accessories, so excited to get it i stumbed across this video, i share your excitement, and am looking forward to the details and quality of the pack.
I doubt you’ll check the comment sections of your older content, but as someone who would like to have a future in wildland ff these videos help immensely, thank you.
Great info on quality gear. I have finally developed your mentality to buy the very best you can afford. Buy it one time and be done. As we begin our homestead journey, we have started doing the same. I hope you will give us a look.
Also, check out Eberlestock. They are a fine military/hunting maker that is on-par with Mystery Ranch.
Great 40mins of my life well spent- thank you for sharing and making the video
+QALibrary Thank you
I would just like to say I aprecate you're videos. I moved from the Pacific Northwest a year ago.
And it give me a nice window back home.
So I’ve been hitting this season hard up in southern Oregon. The pack I was issued is a thielsen fire pack. It may have been good about 15 years ago but it’s pretty worn out now. I’ve broken 3 buckles including the main waist buckle and 3 straps as well.
It’s the most uncomfortable pack I think I’ve ever worn. It’s hard to justify the price tag of a mystery ranch but after wearing this pac for 16 days straight on 14-16 hour shifts, I’m going to make the investment. I made the investment on my boots (JK’s rule) so may as well invest in the pack that’s strapped to me all day too. Thanks for the great review! I’m 23 and I’ve learned lots from you keep it up!
Cody, I noticed you didn't have the two long straps that go length of frame basically clipped. Word of advise if you clip those and tighten them down you'll find it helps with the structure and load distribution. Also you would probably like the NW FireRescue Expo coming up in north Portland, it's may 5&6 and admission is free. We usually go each year lots of good stuff plus some free trainings available. Overall love the video as usual and glad to see your as happy with your pack as I've been with mine.
First thing I learned about packing a ruck: Tight is right.
You carry a lot of gear on your back, Cody. Much respect.
36:56 was the best damn part of the video. The point about being new and having fussy gear on top of the stress of being a proby
Low on the back for lower center of gravity and reduces strain on your back when bending at the waist to dig line. The packs won't sit high which increases weight on the shoulders.
Every time you harp on SI units it cracks me up. Love the videos
Had a coaxer for years got a nargear and I will say your back with thank you for buying mystery ranch or nargear there 10x as good
Coincidentally, I just made the same switch from a Coaxsher FS-1 Ranger, to a Mystery Ranch Hot 3. It's taking some time to find homes for everything on the MR, as there are fewer individual pockets daisy chains, and loops. I agree on all points though, that the MR beats the Coax in all measures of construction and ergonomics. The "gear slosh" problem of the FS-1 Ranger is a serious design problem they need to address soon.
I still use my Dana Design backpack from 1994....25+ years of heavy packing up here in Alaska and no complaints!
Your videos are wonderful! I would love for you to do a video about what people need for a weekend camp trip in the woods.
I am very happy for you. Looks like you just took a huge bunch of little problems and found the solution in the one bag. Very nice. Great bag, and great craftsmanship. You know pretty soon all the guys on your crew are going to want one.
"...you cant put a price on that." Thats exactly why I own and use Dana Design and Mystery Ranch.
Have a MR Selway in the coyote color and got it on sale for $375.00. Will pass to my son or daughter. But, will NEVER SELL this pack. Great pack, plenty of space, light and tough..
you either get it or you don't, just the same as you studied the old locks on the doors in London. Quality craftsmanship
I like the new bag but I don't like the fusees on the bottom...aren't they gonna break? Bonus: you know where fusees' name came from? They were, and occasionally are, use in the railroad. In the old days, they were used to prevent rear-ending particularly. If the train breaks down/stops unusually, runners go both ways and throw fusees. If you're going through a tunnel etc...you drop them, and that means "there's a train less than 5 mins ahead of you, prepare to full stop."
Middle of video: was that white powder ash, dust, or fusee guts?
Very cool system but the weight resting on hips makes me cringe I always like to have weight higher up on back if trecking any sort of distance
I have a true north pack that I really like. But I only dabbled in fire. I used it mostly on a backcountry SAR team and for Mountain ResQ in Arizona, so I didn't contend with huge snow ops. Looking at the Mystery Ranch I can see why you like it so much. Also you are 100% right, the extra $200 is nothing after your first deployment being miserable. As always thanks for sharing.
Great video Cody! Can't wait for this year's fire season. I'm in need of a new pack, so this was really helpful. Going out with the NH crew. See you out there!
Thanks for sharing! I'm excited to get back into the youtube survivalist community, as I used to make videos some years ago but schooling started to get in the way. Since then I've become less interested in knives and more interested in how you use them, which brought me here! I'm looking forward to seeing more videos like this (they make research a lot more enjoyable). I'm currently examining digital communities and will be writing about my experiences on youtube as part of this research. Thanks for your time and best of luck!
Garmin 64st is a great platform. If you know the area you are moving into you can load sat maps for very little if not free. excellent unit!
Thank you so much for doing this video. Like everyone else said, 40 minutes went by without me even noticing. I was researching packs today and just figured I would see what youtube had to offer on information. I was ecstatic to find that someone who's opinion I could trust had something to say about them. That was a superb video and I am absolutely sold on Mystery Ranch products. I am attempting to get into the wildland side of our department in Florida and maybe get a deployment out west to do some work. Would love to see some more videos of what you have to teach a new guy.
someone might have already said it but the cool buckles are called grimlocks if I recall correctly
The owner of Mystery Ranch is Dana Gleason.
You know you've made it when Wranglerstar has your name written on his hand. Well done that man
I have seen and looked for reviews and detailed descriptions of their packs and there's not much out there. A lot of the guys I see wear them on the line don't even know about all the features. I'm glad you shared this video and demo. I've heard from several sources that MR doesn't have any deals or anything because demand is so high. I got a True North fireball model as a budget pack for $100 on Promotive (like GovX discount site). It's great if you're not humping a lot of weight around but I may end up with the MR Hot Top because I prefer the top load design.
hey cody I also like the mystery ranch packs myself but I don't understand why that hip belt is still old technology, check out that osprey when you put the hipbelt on and tighten the waist belt you pull in on the straps and that mystery ranch you pull out, a person is stronger pulling in on the belt rather than out, I was a backpacking guide for years and no matter how hard you pull on that strap you can get it tight enough and most of that weight goes on your shoulders, put on the osprey and the ranch with a load and try that out see what you think. im sure you can modify that design somehow the new packs use like a 2-1 pulley system , like your osprey should have . just a thought . thanks buddy love everything that you do. thanks.
Dana Gleason. I have an old Dana Design pack and I never think twice about loading it up and going wherever. They were heavy but bulletproof, which I prefer. I’ve had it over 20 years.. hardly no wear. Best packs on earth.. no question
loved this pack during my time as a wildland firefighter :)
know i'm a few years late, but the plastic "spade" is called the framesheet
We use them in the Australian army, 3 day packs, most of us go buy SORD or PLATATAC because there not comfortable for prolonged periods of work
Can’t tell what you like more,,,the firefight,,,or the gear...
In a previous life I worked for a backcountry outfitter in Colorado. This was back in the day when Dana Designs was still in full production. They were, by far, the best designed, bombproof, comfortable, & expedition worthy packs on the market. As a proud owner of one of the original Bridger packs I was really sad to see Dana Designs disappear from the pack market. Imagine my pleasure at seeing Dana's triumphant return in the form of Mystery Ranch!
Dana's packs sometimes take "too heavy" dings from the ultralight crowd who somehow manage to get more than a week of gear into sub 20lb pack weights. But the ultralight thing is a little bit of a niche endeavor. These are the folks who are cutting handles from toothbrushes, cutting compression straps from their packs, and foregoing tents to sleep under their Gore Tex jackets. And the truth is, if you are getting your pack weight under 20lbs you actually can carry it in a nylon sack with little to no suspension.
But Mystery Ranch packs are "purpose and mission built". This means their main product lines are aimed at professionals carrying heavy loads who actually need to "work" in the backcountry as opposed to merely walking point to point as fast and light as possible. It is with that design mission in mind that Mystery Ranch's packs are purpose built to carry heavier loads comfortably. And boy oh boy do they achieve their mission!
I think Dana himself says if you are getting your loads below 30lbs then M.Ranch packs probably aren't for you. But I'd say if you need to carry loads heavier than that, all day, and carry it comfortably, you can't go wrong with Mystery Ranch!
I have to admit that I missed Alan making fun of you as you described why you like the pack, or how you outfit it.
Cody, great tutorial. That stretchy material is Pertec (Soft Shell). great stuff, and is strong. not very fire resistant. But a great pack. I have one of Dana's (Mystery Ranches) Wildland Fir packs liek this one. even great as a hiking pack.
per hydration bladder: source 3 L and UTA. can fill it with water bottles/ faucets. awww yeah. this vid made me decide to get a mystery ranch.
Others have already stated here, but after using their packs overseas through absolutely everything... I back them 100%. Have 2 civi packs as well. Love em.
WOW...Amazing...Love your gear videos...Keep up the good work...Looking forward to more fire videos this year.
I have never wanted to go out and buy a bag that I don't need so badly!! Great vid..
I'm not a firefighter but you may have just sold me on one of these!
I use the Hot3 and it's a damn well-built bag. Moved from the Coaxsher back in 2014 and I don't think they had the HotSpot+ Crewbag, just had the HotSpot.
I haven't done fire for the past two seasons, but still use the pack weekly on hikes and day trips. Mystery Ranch makes beastly packs and they are so worth the price tag. I've been thinking about getting their ASAP for a bug out bag.
I watched the entire video. I'm telling you that because I'm not a fire fighter yet you kept it interesting all the way through.
Thought you might like to know that.I'm too old to fight fires but after having seen all the advantages you have pointed out in this your pack I will look closely to find the same attention to detail in a backpacking pack. Thank you for the great video. LRF
+Long Ridge Farm Thank you.
Awesome review. There are probably a couple guys over at mystery ranch who are thinking they need auto do a better job at demo'ing their product, otherwise you might be swooping in. Awesome, extremely good review!
What and how would you arrange in the pack? Like what items would you pick in there, and which pockets would you put those items in?
I love how Heart Racer aka Ginger aka Ms. Wooferstar always shows up in the back drop as if she just loves Mr. W so much she just always has to come see what he’s reviewing
Great review. In my opinion I think both packs are great. I'm not a fan of the stretchy material because it tends to wear out.
Just a FYI the 2016 hunting packs will be made in the Philippines.
Where did you get the first aid zipper pull at 5:36? Also I took the fit spade out. It was causing me back pain. Now I LOVE the pack. Best made and most comfortable pack ever. 35 year FF.
Haven't heard that name in many, many years. I've got a Dana Design Yellowstone that I got in Seattle about '90 or so. It's awesome and built like a tank. It's been around some since then...
Just got issued my equipment yesterday as a first year emergency hire on a fuels crew in north Cali for BLM. As soon as you mentioned Mystery Ranch I got curious to what brand I was issued. Mystery Ranch! Woot! It's nowhere near the high level model that you have in the vid but it definitely gave me confidence in my pack!
Yes! Yes! Yes! Was so excited to see this put up. Thank you so much. When I first saw it I have been checking every hour to see if this video was up. Looks like I am getting a new pack haha. Just a question. You mentioned in your last videos on wildland packs (War Bag 1-5) that your IFAK was very comprehensive and required another video. Will you ever be making a video on that? If not would you put a list up on it. It would just round off the entire wildland pack series.
Another great video Cody! Love how you went into detail about the pack! I might want to start saveing now for mine! Keep up the great work!
looks like a great multi use pack. I wish I was in the market, on my 3rd session with my Nargear pack and it doesn't look like it needs to be replaced for quite some time
It would be great to see a review of the mystery ranch outsider bag I saw you wearing in one of your latest videos!
I have a coaxer pack for day hikes and overnight trips. OK for what it was but quickly got tired of the loose design that you talked about. Probably a bad idea to try it out for bushcrafting anyway.
Just went to their website and it looks like everything is made in Vietnam or the Philippines now.. bummer
fire stuff is still made in the US
Military, fire, and law enforcement is made in the USA. The rest is made In Philippines & Taiwan and is still the same quality. Just not berry Compliant. Look better
Mystery ranch really dropped the ball on discontinuing this pack
I've used camelbak for years. Love their stuff. I've always enjoyed their military range of packs
I am a backcountry field scientist (and mountaineer) and in my 25 year career I have tried every pack out there. And while Mystery Ranch is the best mass manufactured pack.
But the absolute best pack available at a comparable price is the "McHale and Company".
I had the McHale and Company Alpinist Bayonet (a massive 9000cubic inch) for ages and consistently carry over 100lbs on my medium frame. It's customized like a bespoke suit with too many features to list and you can choose everything from materials to color combinations.
Sadly some SOB in karma receivership stole mine. I helped his buddy having a backcountry medical emergency and gave him my pack to hold his, his buddies and my gear and pack out while I dealt with the emergency.