Thank you for the insight! I was told not to transcribe jj and Curtis because they were single tonguers! Probably because my teacher (who is an incredible musician and teacher) is a saxophonist and wanted me to sound like sax. But now that I'm out of school, I say F it! I'm going to transcribe the trombonists I grew up listening to all I want! I have also been discovering "th" tonguing as apposed to classical legato tonguing that I was tought. It's nice to know that others have had that same experience.
Wow, that’s crazy! I’ve never heard of such a thing, but yeah, after you’ve had some time to develop your own playing and philosophy, you can definitely go your own direction! Happy for you
Ryan Michelz So happy to see that drummers dig JJ! 😎 And glad you enjoyed this! First “serious” educational video, so I’m sure it was interesting getting through it lol I appreciate the love!
@@jazzbonept could I ask you for some Trombone recommendations? I'm a huge fan of Bob Brookmeyer, JJ Johnson, Curtis Fuller, Julian Priester, Steve Turre, Kai Winding, Vincent Gardner and so on but my knowledge is still rather limited on Trombonists. Also, Javier, the guy you mentioned, is amazing, if you could recommend some close to that hard bop style
@@ryanmichelz94 Of course. Off the top of my head, Michael Dease, Coleman Hughes (who also has quite a following for his hip-hop influenced music and as well as for his opinions related to race and racism), Andre Hayward, Jeffery Miller, Chris Glassman, Altin Sencalar, (An)Drew Kilpela, Nick Finzer, and Marshall Gilkes
Agreed, Kevin. Even if one dials in all of these elements (and beyond), we won't ever sound like JJ, but learning these things will help us really enrich and inform the development of our own sound😎
That one made a big difference in my playing without even knowing it. The concept comes from a particular technique I learned in my classical studies. If you want to go further in-depth with it, I made a more detailed video about that here: ruclips.net/video/pdelxvR9sPk/видео.html
Hey! I'm transcribing JJ Johnson's Laura solo right now and this really helped out with mimicking his sound and phrasing. I'm no where near close to getting the cut time section down LOL but I will definitely attempt to double tongue it
Awesome, that’s a great solo (and tune)! As it turns out, J.J. used something that was closer to a doodle tongue, although he only used it when needed. Anyway, as long as you get clarity (especially for doodle) and smoothness (especially for double), you can’t really go wrong. Good luck!
I really enjoyed this video. By the way, I love my Conn 88H. I'm working on JJ's Coffee Pot and I have to doodle tongue to get around it at JJ's tempo. I'm playing a King 3B right now. I love it. I appreciate your insights. I'm going to check with my friend Paul Brewer who is a JJ all the way kind of guy on the whole tonguing thing.
Glad you enjoyed it! That’s a tough solo for sure (as are many of his solos, despite the ease of sound). As it turns out, JJ in fact doodles and he even mentioned this in an interview with David Baker, so the mystery is cleared (for myself lol). Good luck with the solo and have fun learning it!
JJ Johnson. my mentor, i miss him so.
JJ was your mentor??!
Thank you for the insight! I was told not to transcribe jj and Curtis because they were single tonguers! Probably because my teacher (who is an incredible musician and teacher) is a saxophonist and wanted me to sound like sax. But now that I'm out of school, I say F it! I'm going to transcribe the trombonists I grew up listening to all I want!
I have also been discovering "th" tonguing as apposed to classical legato tonguing that I was tought. It's nice to know that others have had that same experience.
Wow, that’s crazy! I’ve never heard of such a thing, but yeah, after you’ve had some time to develop your own playing and philosophy, you can definitely go your own direction! Happy for you
I'm a drummer who loves JJ Johnson. I don't know anything about the trombone but I really enjoyed this
Ryan Michelz So happy to see that drummers dig JJ! 😎 And glad you enjoyed this! First “serious” educational video, so I’m sure it was interesting getting through it lol I appreciate the love!
@@jazzbonept could I ask you for some Trombone recommendations? I'm a huge fan of Bob Brookmeyer, JJ Johnson, Curtis Fuller, Julian Priester, Steve Turre, Kai Winding, Vincent Gardner and so on but my knowledge is still rather limited on Trombonists. Also, Javier, the guy you mentioned, is amazing, if you could recommend some close to that hard bop style
@@ryanmichelz94 Of course. Off the top of my head, Michael Dease, Coleman Hughes (who also has quite a following for his hip-hop influenced music and as well as for his opinions related to race and racism), Andre Hayward, Jeffery Miller, Chris Glassman, Altin Sencalar, (An)Drew Kilpela, Nick Finzer, and Marshall Gilkes
Great video! Really cool to hear your insight to JJ’s playing.
Thanks Tyler! I'm glad you enjoyed it and hopefully were able to take away a couple of useful things
Es muy claro!! Como el sonido de JJ.
Gracias por el cumplido! Es imposible sonar como JJ, pero es posible acercarse mas y mas 😁
This is a helpful discussion. It takes patience and concentration to distill out these elements. I love j j's style.
Agreed, Kevin. Even if one dials in all of these elements (and beyond), we won't ever sound like JJ, but learning these things will help us really enrich and inform the development of our own sound😎
Great content Peter! I like your analysis. Please keep up the great work!!!!
Thanks for the kind words Pablito! I will try my best to do so.
Dude, yeah!
😁
Great lessons particularly the “ block note” idea….thanks so much k,n
That one made a big difference in my playing without even knowing it. The concept comes from a particular technique I learned in my classical studies. If you want to go further in-depth with it, I made a more detailed video about that here: ruclips.net/video/pdelxvR9sPk/видео.html
Hey! I'm transcribing JJ Johnson's Laura solo right now and this really helped out with mimicking his sound and phrasing. I'm no where near close to getting the cut time section down LOL but I will definitely attempt to double tongue it
Awesome, that’s a great solo (and tune)! As it turns out, J.J. used something that was closer to a doodle tongue, although he only used it when needed. Anyway, as long as you get clarity (especially for doodle) and smoothness (especially for double), you can’t really go wrong. Good luck!
Also, thanks for turning me on to Javier Nero. He's killer
Of course. So many great cats out there. I’ll keep an eye out for you 🧐
Thanks to the excelente vídeo and transcriptions, they are so valuable!!
No problem, glad you enjoyed it! I will have to do an new updated one sometime soon 😁
Beautiful sound! Nice vid!
Jeff Ramey thanks for the kind words! ‘Twas my first of the more “serious” videos, so excuse the delivery. Hoping the content was useful!
I really enjoyed this video. By the way, I love my Conn 88H. I'm working on JJ's Coffee Pot and I have to doodle tongue to get around it at JJ's tempo. I'm playing a King 3B right now. I love it. I appreciate your insights. I'm going to check with my friend Paul Brewer who is a JJ all the way kind of guy on the whole tonguing thing.
Glad you enjoyed it! That’s a tough solo for sure (as are many of his solos, despite the ease of sound). As it turns out, JJ in fact doodles and he even mentioned this in an interview with David Baker, so the mystery is cleared (for myself lol). Good luck with the solo and have fun learning it!
By the way, if you’d like to hear my (legato) double-younger version of it, here it is: ruclips.net/video/vBRk0GtrBnI/видео.html
You need more subs just moved from trombone to tuba.
You can do both! Or play bebop on a tube 😎
You never read this anyways thanks also please record this with better sound , app. It dosent do u justice.