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When Edge Turned Heel in 2004
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Random idea I had. Edge's heel turn did wonders for his career, it wasn't like he was gonna be terrible as a babyface, but for the fans, it was a been there done that type thing. The heel turn gave him new life and showed a depth never seen before, then you add the heat he had from the Matt Hardy incident, he's one of the biggest heels in the company. What did you think of Edge's heel turn in 2004?
I think it was Fantastic
I personally liked it. It showed edge was wanting the title and his promos was exceptional. I love it
I feel like it was fitting. To me a lightning in a bottle kind of thing, mainly because around this time, the WWE needed talent to either be the face or heel of smackdown and Raw that fans can gravitate to hating or love which will ensure higher viewership/ratings for them. My humble opinion
Well when fans are booing you as a babyface, then it just makes to turn you heel and just lean into it. The love triangle was also going down so it seemed like he was going to turn heel nonetheless. I mean look what happened to Lita then because of what was going on in real life that they had no choice but to turn her heel as well because she was also getting booed out of the building and chanting “You Screwed Matt!”
I don't think that love triangle had much effect on Edge's heel run. I agree that the story was wild and all, but Edge would have been on the same level as heel anyways. But sure Adam Copeland at the time did heelish things too lol.
The heel turn definitely put him in the uppercard. Then in 2005 he became the Rated R Superstar. Ppl literally hated this dude 🤣
The rated r superstar character was basically heel Adam Copeland 😭😭
I think he became the Rated Superstar in 2006
@@invoked5114 He actually became the Rated R Superstar in 2005 thanks to the real life affair with Lita which solidified him as an massive top heel and main eventer.
As a kid I wanted Edge to die 😅
Edge during his heel run 2004 was pretty much him heading to become the rated R superstar at this time.
Edge established himself as a heel during 04-05, a time of which Orton Cena and Batista were viewed as WWE’s main rising stars, found his grit, and was also viewed as one.
Rated Rko and La Familia with the edgeheads was great he had solidified himself officially then for me
They were dubbed as the “fortunate 4” for a reason.
Edge's Heel Run from 2004 - 2006 on Monday Night Raw and 2007 - 2009 on Friday Night SmackDown was so Damn Awesome
Factsss
Better than roman miles and miles better
Edge as an 11 time world champion (mostly heel) >>>>>>>>>> roman as the wwe undisputed champion
Edge turning heel in 2004 really did wonders for his career. His heel work was great and by the time WrestleMania 21 came, Edge established himself as an mega top heel and main eventer
Alongside Cena, Orton and Batista,, who took over during 2004-2005.
Edge didn’t become the mega heel until he got with lita. He was on the rise here but nobody knew how crazy edge would become
@@pleaseshutup7053 yea after the whole scandle came out edge turned into heel Adam Copeland
@@blacksupersayain6006 Adam Copeland became edge 24/7
@@wwewrestlingandgaming4136 Agree. Orton, Cena, Edge and Batista were 4 of WWE's top rising stars who went to become the Big 4 from WM 21 throughout RA Era
Edge has some of the best facial expressions in wrestling
😂😂🤣
Ah Edge. Definitely one of the greatest heels in wrestling history. While I enjoyed his babyface run from 2001-2003, his heel turn definitely made him much more exciting and more interesting, and then when he beat John Cena at New Year’s Revolution 2006, the rest was history. I hated this guy more than anyone else as a kid and was the bane of my existence. Truly an amazing talent. Thanks for the nostalgia, homie.😁👍
I hated him back then but man, he was so damn cool.
@@wrestlingspremier Yup. Exceptttt the shit with Lita
It was the inverse for me, 8 year old me fell In love with metallingus
He had his greatest rivalries and alliances as a heel starting with Matt Hardy, Kane, Cena , Batista, The Undertaker and he even formed Rated Rko with Orton arguably someone who just was good as a heel as he was and they had a rivalry with DX and I can’t forget the Edgeheads.
I cried out of hanger when he smacked hbk in the head with the MITB briefcase during the gold rush tournament.
Been a Edgehead since I was 5. Face or Heel I loved Edge 🙏
Agreed. He’s very effective in the heel role; generating genuine heat.👍🏻
I always enjoyed this short stretch that Edge had from October 2004 to April 2005. It showed his slow burn transition into the Rated-R Superstar. My favorite match of his from this run is his match against Shawn Michaels at the Royal Rumble.
I loved it too - he always close but got screwed and made him more psycho each week. But naturally if you win a briefcase that has a guaranteed contract, you’re not gonna be that mad anymore. But man I wish that shit went on longer. Then when lita came in, he just became a douche heel
Edge was a straight scoundrel when he turned heel, he was like a real life supervillain taking everything respecting no one and doing the impossible.
Everyone talks about all the great matches the smackdown 6 had in late 02, but i feel like the great matches the raw roster had in late 04 are overlooked
They basically brought the Smackdown guys to Raw and swapped them out with Booker and RVD in that 04' draft lottery. Benoit, Edge, and Shelton Benjamin (even Tajiri) were Smackdown OGs who had some amazing matches on Raw that year. The three episodes of Raw where they did the draft lottery followed by the two week program of HHH vs Shelton Benjamin was phenomenal. Also, it was fun to see how differently they booked the shows when Raw would go to Canada at that time because they had Trish, Jericho, Christian, Benoit, and Edge. They would pop for Christian and boo the shit out of Shawn Michaels it was hysterical.
Even late 03 and early 2004, the HHH vs HBK match on RAW to end 2003, the 2 HBK vs Benoit matches on RAW, Edge and Benoit vs Batista and Flair for tag team titles, HHH vs Benoit iron man match, Y2J vs HBK 3, the last title match of 2004 triple threat match HHH vs Benoit vs Edge.
most people associate Edge with Smackdown while it was on RAW that he became what he is :
his short period as an angry psychopath obssessed with the world title that we never seen again
his feud against Shawn Michaels
his first Elimination Chamber
the first Mr.Money in the Bank win
his first one on one world title shot
his relationship with Lita
his rivalry with Matt Hardy
first World title win
live sex celebration
his rivalry with John Cena
Rated RKO
rivalry against DX
all that before moving to smackdown
This version of edge was first introduced to me on Svr 2006 and he was the full rated R superstar on 2007
He was the rated r superstar when he got with lita in 05
@@pleaseshutup7053 yeah but SVR 06, was based off 2004-2005 wwe while 2007 is based on 2006 wwe so yeah his character in SVR 06 was this edge not the rated R super star
@@allygunzz exactly good shit bro
As early as 2001, you could tell Edge was meant to be a future main eventer having broken out into singles competition and winning KOTR. In 2002, he actually got world title shots while Big Show & Brock were champs later that year.
Now when 2004 hit, that’s when his main event push really officiated. It was one of the most well done heel turns ever. Fans sometimes assume his transition took place at Taboo Tuesday, but it was as early as SummerSlam when fans favored Jericho over him and Edge won the triple threat snatching the belt from the ref( subtle heel mannerism). The heel turn was perfect cause he was justified. He got stripped of the IC title, he didn’t lose it. Felt betrayed for not getting the vote at Taboo Tuesday despite being the healthier & newer challenger, not losing the #1 contender battle Royal and even briefly holding the world title as a mock winner in the triple threat against Benoit & Triple H and having to compete in the chamber to get another show with 3 more opponents and an unfavorable ref.
The psycho championship level driven guy should be used more often
It’s all about the money that comes with the the championship.
Lita elevated his career to main event status. Too bad wwe didn’t elevate Matt hardy also.
not from a lack of trying. he was a upper card guy on SmackDown and top guy on ECW. Same as Christian. Some talent just do not have the it factor needed to be the face of the brand. Hardy was a damn good talent but like his brother could be unprofessional at times. He had some great stuff going for him like V1 Hardy. But he hadn't found that it factor until he left and came up with the broken universe. He hadn't come up with the idea yet.
This heel turn was truly the beginning of Edge's rise to the top of the card.
As a kid watching wwe from '04-'08 that was probably the best time to see Edge for the first time. I remember being legit angry when he won the belt off Cena and RVD
One of the greatest and underrated WWE heels ever.
I felt Edge being the smiling happy go lucky tag team specialist had really run it's course and it was time for his character to go in a new direction, I really enjoyed the build up to his heel turn, you could tell he was starving to become a main event guy and get his world title shot that he truly felt he deserved.
Everytime he was close to getting it, something or someone would get in his way and you could tell he was ready to explode at any moment, even his in ring style had changed from crowd pleasing high flyer to a full on violent madman and him spearing HBK at Taboo Tuesday screaming "it should have been me" was the moment Edge truly cemented himself as a monster heel.
His turn was handled very well and in a way, it reminded me of the same thing that Triple H went through years earlier, he felt he was being held back and taking a backseat to everyone else who was getting opportunities that he felt should have been his.
Great storytelling and the beginning of perhaps Edge's most dominant run
The heel turn that made Edge a star
The heel turn in '04 definitely set Edge on the path to stardom for sure. Even if you started watching during the Attitude Era, chances are if someone says Edge now, you think of the Rated R Superstar, the Ultimate Opportunist. As someone who started getting into WWE around late '07, Edge was the heel I hated most. Him and Vickie Guerrero screwing over Undertaker and Batista and everyone else made me so mad.
I feel for Edge. You win a triple threat and the fans vote for someone who is injured? What a joke
My favourite edge just before 2006. 04-05 edge was the best!
That street fight secured me as a wrestling fan.
This is when Edge became my favourite of all time
Edge is my favorite heel ever. I really wish he would’ve ended Taker’s streak though.
This is one of my favorite versions of Edge, and his attire during this period is definitely my favorite of his. Though I liked his attire when he was leading Judgement Day.
This was the edge that was rated m
Edge is a Top 3 heel of all-time with only Randy Orton and Vince McMahon being ahead of him in my opinion. Never before in my life have I hated someone on a personal level more than I did Edge when he turned heel, which shows just how great he was at being a scumbag. The Matt Hardy/Lita/Edge love triangle angle might be the most insane story arc of the entire Ruthless Aggression Era.
How do you list top 3 heels and don’t mention ric flair the dirtiest player in the game
Kurt Angle top heel
Triple H too he definitely should be up there
I agree with all this. I would just definitely consider Triple H being in that top 3
Randy Orton over Flair and HHH lmao even Randy himself would not agree with you on that. there would be no randy Orton without those two guys
Great videos as always my brotha. You are One of my favorite FAVORITE WRESTLING RUclips CHANNELS❤️ stay blessed brotha
Edge's heel turn in 2004 was awesome metalingus by alter bridge was a great choice since he is great friends with the band and Edge introduced me to alter bridge.
I sometimes forget edge was in 2004. As you said sometimes he was there but at the same time i remember much of it lile the tag belts, injuring eric bichoff, the IC belt and the famous metalingus debut
He was on the juice in 04 he try to be buffed up to be a main eventer but it did work out
What videos would you like to see? Also, if you guys really want me to continue the Edge heel run, just comment down below.
I would love for you to continue the Edge heel run, like talk about 2006-2007, when he was the biggest piece of crap ever.😂
But I’m down for whatever you got homie, your content truly is great.😁
Here's hoping you make a video about 3 Count from WCW
It would be great to have a second part, from late 2005 to June 2009 where he relinquished the unified tag team belts and Jericho blamed him for getting injured. That’s the time period when Edge began transitioning to face again, and I think that could be the third part :)
In my opinion edge is the greatest HEEL ever.
That edge shirt was heat 🔥
2002-2003 Edge before his injury was supposed to be a main eventer baby face since he was popular. 2004 Edge has a baby face got stale until his heel turn and became obsessed with winning the World Heavyweight Championship. A psycho heel before becoming the Rated R Superstar. His heel run drew a lot of heat and hatred from the fans but that's makes him one of the top villains in the WWE. Only Randy Orton, Triple H, JBL, King Booker and Vince McMahon were better villains.
Could you do a video on Triple H's blue blood gimmick from 1995 through 1997?
The best thing about his "heel turn" is that it was a slown burn where subtle hints were being shown leading up to it, ie when he cheated against Batista.
The thing though is that he was more of an antihero at this point; he still feuded with HHH and Evolution. He would become a full blown heel the following year with Lita.
Edge is one of my favorites heel and baby face 😊
Jeans in a street fight always gets me 🤣🤣🤣
Edge & Chris Jericho in 2008-2009 were the only two wrestlers that I've ever genuinely hated as a kid
Wow, really appreciate for being receptive to my request.
Never been this early for a drop before let's go! W
Canadian wrestlers love crying and complaining about how they are always screwed and they are always right.
Easily the nicest wrestler I ever met
New Years revolution is the first paper view I remember watching
Please make a video on The rise of Batista from mid 2002 - WrestleMania 21.
Edge as a heel was awesome
In my opinion, as great and immortalized his hardcore match with Mick Foley is, Edge 1000% deserved that Mania 22 main event with the belt against Cena.
It still sticks in my craw that Triple H wouldn’t move aside so Edge could’ve had his main event. In my opinion it would have cemented him sooner than he was. He had a year and build to his World title run.
"deserved".. there's that word smarks love
@@waynetables6414 I agree that “deserved” is overstated, but at the time Edge brought in the highest ratings since 2000, I do feel they should’ve changed course and had Edge/Cena main event Wrestlemania since Edge had peopling cheering for Cena for the first time since like November of 2005.
@@cwrisgood That was the time period I stopped watching wrestling, so you're not gonna get any arguments from me that the booking was horrible.. I doubt even if Edge could go back and change that WM card, that he even would.. because he probably loved his match with Mick. Sometimes it's better to be in a featured match than a title match.
The way they booked late 05 into 2006 ruined wrestling for me completely, don't even get me started with that lol. That was when they lost the audience for the first time in like ten years. They had the crowd in the palm of their hand as a company from like 97-mid 05 and then the crowds started putting themselves over and cheering heels and booing babyfaces and WWE just let it happen. There's no reason they couldn't have just ended the brand split, made HHH and Angle babyfaces, turned Cena heel the same way they turned Rock heel in 99'. (They turned Rock heel just so Austin could have an opponent, Rock was getting cheered before that) Cena was getting booed heavily and they wouldn't turn him.
I blame the fans as much as I blame WWE at that time, because that was when smarks took over the crowd and started cheering for heels if they were "good workers" and booing babyfaces if someone who's never wrestled a day in his life considered him a "bad worker". "You can't wrestle" chants and shit like that were cringe. Cena needed to be edgy to keep the crowd on his side and he just got more and more goofy so I blame Cena as well. It was just a fucking mess and I haven't even mentioned how bad that Sy Fy ECW show was.. having 3 shows instead of 2 was the death knell because it became quantity over quality. They tried to stay with the brand split but they didn't commit to it and guys just bounced around which made no sense in kayfabe. WWE realized they could churn out content even if it sucked because the money would be the same regardless.
The crowd was turning on babyface Cena and cheering heel HHH at the same time, so they booked them together and didn't turn either of them. shit was retarded. HHH had been a heel for almost 4 years and fans were dying to cheer him again. He had just put Batista over 3 times and had absolutely zero heat. He had no business in the main event especially as a heel. Angle and HHH were both getting cheered out of respect at that time, which was a bad thing because the fans were cheering for those guys in real life and not their characters because "they can wrestle unlike Cena!". It just showed they were not invested in the characters or storylines whatsoever and fans thought they were smarter than they actually were. Those ECW One Night Stands were great shows in and of themselves, but they hurt the company because it made WWE fans hate WWE.
@@waynetables6414 I agree 100%. After the 3 straight losses against Batista Triple H should’ve turned babyface and stayed a semi-main eventer. After Mania 21 he should’ve focused on building up the next generation instead of trying to continually pad his World Title stats.
Remember when guys actually had storylines before they got the title. Instead of just winning money in the bank and losing for 8 months straight, then cashing in
My childhood.
Dude memories unlocked!!!! Up this video!!!
Rusev’s streak from 2014-2015?
I didn't know that the first MITB match was exclusive to RAW.
edge did well great in heel he can do everything to make a match a promo the best a hit
You should do a video on Jerichos 2008-2010 run
I'll have to say, with Edge, he's a lot like Randy Orton, in the the fact that he's just a better heel than baby face!
You should do a video on how Edge made judgment Day lol
One small gripe I have about his '04 turn is that they weren't more subtle about it leading up to Taboo Tuesday, Edge was already being a blatant heel in every way.
You think we could get a video on the Kurt Angle vs HBK feud?
Have you done a video on willow? If not that'd be a pretty cool video
Triple h, edge and orton my top 3 heels
Edge originated the phrase it "should have been me"
He’s Good As A Face But Once He Turned Heel His Career Change & That When The Rated R Superstar Was Began 🐐
tbh I will never understand how someone will say they never seen him turning heel lol like the dude always had heel written all over him back in 2001-2003
Hey, I just wanted to know if you have done big show's heel turn from 2012 when he did the ironchad contract and demolished everyone in the WWE and if not. Can you make a video about it.
I haven't yet but I have it on my mind.
@@wrestlingspremier thank you
Great idea for a video
I'd see a Rusev video about his first US title reign.
If they didn't turn him heel we would never get the edge we have now
100% correct. Edge really played the heel role perfectly, I would literally get angry or upset whenever Edge did something heelish.
I remember when Edge got with Lita when he was feuding with Kane
Yes it was wild I remember as a kid why is edge making out with Matt Hardy’s girlfriend lol
Why did Edge turn heel in 2004. It's quite simple he did it for The Rock he did it for the people
Seriously, what a terrible return. He was roided up to the gills, he had changed his look (less cool looking tights, covering up his Street Shark tattoo with 'Black Hole Sun'), he seemed to literally sound more robotic, and he was injury prone.The Canadian crowd took a dump on his in-ring return against Kane at Backlash, then they put him with Benoit and made them tag champions to get him over as a face again. He leeched off of that for a while then went back to being on his own when he feuded with Orton in the summer but they cheered heel Orton over him. He started acting more heelish when feuding with Jericho in August and when his hometown crowd booed the fuck out of him at SummerSlam, that was the signal for him needing to turn heel or do something different because as a face, he was failing. He had the groin injury right after that and when he returned to competing, he completed his turn at Taboo Tuesday.
His heel turn brought the best out of him and the Lita/Matt Hardy scandal couldn't have come at a better time after WM21. He built all the momentum and went on to become the MVP of 2006.
He really needed that heel turn as his babyface gimmick by that point was incredibly boring.
Edge was never that great of a face
@@pleaseshutup7053 I actually like face run from 2001-2003 but by 2004 he needed to turn heel
@@kazallroberts he just comes off as a heel. When he is a face it never feels genuine
@@pleaseshutup7053 Just like most babyface characters
heel edge.. hated him 1,000,000 percent !!!! 🤬 back in the days.., and when he turned face.. im so thankful 🙏🙏🙏🙏
His edge heel he's he run was Good it was a good you run by edge because he was awesome who was different Hughes crazy crazy edge I loved edge as a heel awesome
Like I’m a heel right now
It's so weird that HBK Benoit Edge standing in the ring in 2004 fast forward all these 3 guys won the rumble at number 1
2005 was ultimately The Rise of Edge. Hmm, Make a good R rated movie…
14:17 Edge and Lita
Perfect timed heel turn really tho the fans turned on EDGE he should have got the title shot at taboo tuesday not Shawn Michaels
Shannon moore
Edge
A certain drama had me hate him even more
Why didn’t cena team with edge
lol
make a Alex Riley vid
It’s gonna be like 5 mins
@@pleaseshutup7053 i mean he said a short vid
Seriously, what a terrible return. He was roided up to the gills, he had changed his look (less cool looking tights, covering up his Street Shark tattoo with 'Black Hole Sun'), he seemed to literally sound more robotic, and he was injury prone.The Canadian crowd took a dump on his in-ring return against Kane at Backlash, then they put him with Benoit and made them tag champions to get him over as a face again. He leeched off of that for a while then went back to being on his own when he feuded with Orton in the summer but they cheered heel Orton over him. He started acting more heelish when feuding with Jericho in August and when his hometown crowd booed the fuck out of him at SummerSlam, that was the signal for him needing to turn heel or do something different because as a face, he was failing. He had the groin injury right after that and when he returned to competing, he completed his turn at Taboo Tuesday.
His heel turn brought the best out of him and the Lita/Matt Hardy scandal couldn't have come at a better time after WM21. He built all the momentum and went on to become the MVP of 2006.
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Edge as heel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> borman reigns