Raf just suited Nathan better, his attitude towards training and his personality would have not worked with Yuzuru Hanyu. Brian was better coach for Yuzuru. Boath coaches are amazing, but the same as it is in real life, there are people who just doesn´t fit each other. Raf was too strict with this own ideas without allowing the scater to influence his own training model. He trained Nathat to WIN. And he succeded - however, sometimes the scores were really controversial (for the naked eye). Judging from the situation now, Yuzuru Hanyu prooved why he was and IS called THE GOAT of figure skating. While Nathan´s skating is not seen anywhere now (despite the fact he has improved his artistry a lot) , Yuzuru Hanyu is still skating and is dedicated to figure-skating (even after his official retirement). His technique is still amazing and the artistry is still the best from the entire of competitive field. In his current state he would still be able to defeat the current competitive field 🙂 (I watched the wordshampionship 2023 - and I was quite dissappointed. Shoma Uno really deserved to win - he was the only one who combined both - technique AND artistry. When he touched the ice, the difference was obvious). It is VERY RARE to find the athlete who has both - artistry AND technique. Because the technique is easier to teach and mark the trend of surpasing the artistry is obvious throughout the past years. However, if ISU wants to go this way they MUST consider two points: 1. without the artistry the figure skating will loose it´s charm/magic/atractiveness 2. the marking must be FAIR to everybody - so there has to be the better technical tools for counting the rotations, skater´s take-off and landing, ice coverage, speed, ...and such tools have already existed, they are just not accepted by ISU.
not really. Raf had no intention of letting Hanyu win over Nathan in seniors. he not only wanted Nathan to win, he wanted Nathan to dominate completely. thats what they did. What Rafael said about Hanyu? That is actually called a back-handed compliment. It is not biggest complement at all, but a backhanded one, cos Nathan beat Hanyu (not just once, but 6 times), so of cos, if Hanyu is great, Nathan is greater, and the coach that trained him to beat Hanyu is the greatest of all. Rafael is giving the biggest compliment to himself lol.
@@lorrainemiddy4011 really? Then explain to me why Raf was gushing like a school girl when he asked Yuzuru for his autograph. Please, Nathan will never be as good as Yuzuru no matter how hard Raf tries and Raf knows this.
@@mirapetrella8860 hahahaha, do you know when Raf asked Hanyu for autograph? that was at the very first competition when Nathan beat Hanyu for the first time lol!!!! Raf asked Hanyu for autograph after Hanyu lost to Nathan for the first time at 4CC in 2017, and this happened after the press conference lol. That too, was a total and complete backhanded compliment lol. Did you see how happy Rafael was, how he was grinning from ear to ear? You think it was becos he got to meet and get autograph from Hanyu, or becos Nathan his boy beat Hanyu? LOL! I think he asked autograph from Hanyu at 4CC PRECISELY becos Nathan beat Hanyu for first time, he took it as a momento...almost like an American Indian takes the scalp of the slain enemy lol. AS for Hanyu, just note how uncomfortable he looked, how very awkward he was. LOL. Silly you. You totally do NOT get the context. WHY WOULD RAFEL ASK HANYU FOR AUTOGRAPH AT THIS TIME, AT THIS COMPETITION? Had he never seen Hanyu before? Is this the first time? He had seen Hanyu so many times before, met him so many times before, why didn't he ask for autograph before then? Why ask for autograph at the very competition when Nathan beat Hanyu for first time? LOL. Use your brain. Raf was grinning so widely, that sly fox, he was visibly GLOATING WITH GLEE, he was so happy he couldn't suppress his exuberation. And Hanyu was literally grimacing with this uncomfortable frowning face lol. It was SO FUNNY! You do not understand Rafael at all, that man is very smart and very enigmatic and very interesting, that sly old Russian master lol. He is so fun and so amazing. he has been playing chess with Hanyu for 10 years, and completely checkmated him with his white knight Nathan Chen. LOL. Compliment? THINK AGAIN.
@@lorrainemiddy4011 More than 6x if you count the team events. Hanyu basically lost every competition against Nathan after the 2018 Olympics by large margins. Hanyu skated only great when not facing Nathan during that period.
@@howardchan6167 true about group competitions. as for hanyu, he actually skated as he usually did. it is just that his less than perfect performances were still good enough to beat most others, including shoma uno. only when faced with nathan who could turn out flawless quad fueled performances was he at a disadvantage, and even his best was just not good enough.
I think this interview is about six years old now. Raf says of Nathan, "I train him to beat him [Hanyu]." And that he did, very well. Nathan totally eclipsed Hanyu, winning the LP at the 2018 Olympics, and then serving Hanyu his most devastating losses of his career: beaten by Nathan by 22 points at Worlds 2019, beaten by 44 points at GPF 2019, beaten by 32 points at 2021 Worlds, and beaten by his biggest loss ever, 49 points ending up off the podium at the '22 Olympics. Nathan defeated Hanyu at least once every year of his career. Of the 11 times Nathan and Hanyu met in competition, Nathan won 7 of those events, and never lost to Hanyu again after the 2018 Olympics. Yes, I'll say Raf trained Nathan VERY well.
@@911randompsp I simply stated facts about Hanyu's competitions against Nathan. Unlike your petty insults, I didn't say anything against Hanyu personally. Getting petty and personal is typical of Fanyus, who everyone knows have the worst reputation in the skating world for their acidic attitudes. Nathan announced two years ago that he would go back to school to finish his degree. Raf fully supported that decision. Nathan wasn't "dumped" by Raf, and you know it. That's a lie. Nathan remains an eligible skater today, and Raf remains his coach even though he isn't competing. It seems what can't be dealt with for you is the fact that Hanyu ended his career holding NO major figure skating championship titles, NO world records, and losing the Olympics by 49.39 points, ending up OFF the podium. In fact, Hanyu hadn't won anything in the last two years of his career and just faded out, never to land his MUCH talked about quad axel either. In contrast, Nathan went back to school as the 6-time undefeated National Champion, 3-time undefeated Grand Prix Final Champion, 3-time undefeated World Champion, and Olympic Champion holding all the world records for SP, LP, and total score. That's what you call going out ON TOP. Deal with it.
@@911randompsp "Don't waste your life hating on someone who has not done anything wrong to you."You mean like Nathan Chen, who didn't do anything to YOU? So take your own advice and stop lying about and insulting him. Goodbye.
@@911randompsp My original post was in reference to Raf saying that he prepared Nathan "to beat Hanyu", and he certainly did that. I never lied about Hanyu like you lied about Nathan being "dumped". NONE of that is true. I simply stated facts that are true from Hanyu's competitive record. They are what they are because they're true. I also take issue with this video. It's a five-minute clip taken out of context from a MUCH longer interview with Raf years ago, and the poster of this video is clearly implying that Raf cares for or respects Hanyu more than his own skater, Nathan Chen...and that's also totally false. That's why I posted an excerpt from a much more recent interview Raf did right after Nathan won the Olympics where he is criticizing Hanyu's decision to add the quad axel to his Olympic LP, and said he knew Hanyu's LP would fall apart. Unlike the poster of this video, I included the link to the full interview, as well. No, Raf isn't "ga-ga" for Hanyu and holds much respect for his own student, Nathan.
@@911randompsp Sure, but Hanyu NEVER successfully defended a World Championship, NEVER had an undefeated season (Nathan had THREE), NEVER won both his GP assignment competitions in the same season until the 9th year of his career (one year AFTER the 2018 Olympics), NEVER mastered the quad lutz, NEVER did a quad flip, only skated TWO clean competitions with +GOE on all elements in his long 12-year career, won just 17 out of 41 international competitions for a losing record of just 41% (winning only 4 out of every 10 competitions)...I could go on, but I'll leave it at that.
Here is a more recent interview with Rafael Arutunyan shortly after Nathan Chen won the Olympic gold medal. Listen to how he says it's irresponsible to put a jump into competition that hasn't been properly secured in training. He uses Hanyu putting his quad axel in his Olympic LP as the example. He also said he knew Hanyu's jumps would fail because missing the quad axel would create a domino effect in his LP, and that's exactly what happened. So, I wouldn't assume Arutunyan is "ga-ga" over Hanyu. He said he didn't want Nathan to just win, but do "dominate", and that's exactly what he did. Do you want to say that it also could be a reason why Yuzuru Hanyu wanted to jump a quadruple axel at the Olympic Games? Rafael Arutyunyan: It could be so. When people from Chen’s close circle (I won’t name them) started trying to persuade me to put a quad loop in the free program, I said: “No way!” Why? Rafael Arutyunyan: Because you cannot put in the Olympic program a jump that is not sufficiently prepared in training. Yes, it can be done, but where is the guarantee that the rest of the program will not crumble? Well, who, tell me, benefited from the fact that Hanyu spent so much effort on an under-rotated quadruple axel, and then fell on the salchow? Was it interesting for you to watch Yuzuru’s training attempts, from a professional point of view? Rafael Arutyunyan: No. I knew that even if we assume that Hanyu somehow miraculously succeeds with this jump, then there is a high probability that something will break in some other place. After all, the question is not in the axel itself, but in the rest of the program, which must be skated, and without mistakes. fs-gossips.com/rafael-arutyunyan-we-didnt-want-just-to-win-we-wanted-to-dominate-and-im-very-glad-that-this-is-exactly-what-happened-in-beijing/ In this same interview, the interviewer says to Rafael Arutyunyan: "Even a year ago, it was obvious that in the technical aspect, your athlete is head and shoulders above all his rivals, including Yuzuru Hanyu." Rafael knew this, too!
@Hope n Legacy Of course, Nathan would say that because he's a gracious and humble champion, but he also knows Hanyu is NOT in his league and that he surpassed Hanyu back in 2018. Nathan lets his competitive record, which towers over Hanyu's, speak for itself.
Raf admired Hanyu but he refused to work with Hanyu as coach cos he had Nathan, who was junior at that time, and he knew what Nathan was capable of, just as he knows what Ilia Malinin is capable of in the future now. He knew Nathan could beat everyone else eventually, but he was still a junior and had not even reached his potential yet, so he just didn't speak about Nathan, but right from the time Nathan went to him at 13, he had the long range plan to train him into Olympic champion. In this interview, when talking about Nathan, it shows the high expectations Rafael had of him. He is saying, Nathan was not there yet, what is there to speak of then, even if he won juniors, he didn't skate transcendentally, like he will do in the future. No need to get ahead, the time to rejoice is not yet. As for Hanyu, if Rafael had agreed to take him on, he would no doubt have gone to Rafael in the US to train, even with Nathan there. That's what he did with Brain Orser in Toronto. He went to Orser because Javier Fernandez, who was landing his quads nicely at that time, was with Orser. But Rafael is not like Orser, he keeps his cards close to his chest, and he does not do open-house training like Orser. Rafael is a jump specialist, Brian Orser is not. If Rafael had agreed to work with Hanyu, Hanyu would undoubtedly have gone to him to improve his quads, which more often than not, he could not land cleanly. But Rafael knew what he was doing. Rafael works only with established skaters with the exception of Nathan Chen, who was and is the one and only skater Rafael personally cultivated from young age. Nathan was his "life" project as coach. He succeeded. Rafael started smiling in 2017 after Nathan skated when Nathan beat Hanyu for the first time at 4CC. Only at the Olympics, he didn't smile. He didn't smile at Pyeongchang cos Nathan fouled up the SP, and at Beijing, when Nathan pulverised Hanyu's world record for the SP, he didn't smile, he cried.
Thank God! Yuzu didn't go to Rafael. I wouldn't even want to be a fan to a skater who only know how to jump and doing simple cross -over without complex and difficult transitions. The competition programmes must be dead boring! We wouldn't be seeing Yuzu's numerous mesmerising programmes like Seimei, Hope & legacy, Chopin Ballard no.1 etc, Exhibition gala like Notte stellata, Haru yu koi etc.Rafael does not give a damn about having good skating skills (like orser and Tracy). Yuzu has to relearned his skating skills from beginning when he went to Orser.Orser let Yuzu decides on his competition programmes (not till phantom of opera) and Yuzu has the freedom to choose what he likes in music, choreography and costumes.With Rafael, I don't think Yuzu will be granted this freedom and this will definitely kill Yuzu's passion for ice skating. Bravo Yuzu, you have made the right choice for choosing TCC and so much relief for millions of fanyus🥳🎉
I am also glad that Yuzu did not go to Rafael. Though Nathan is good technically, he has no fluidity in his motions, he is too wooden when he performs. Yuzu not only has great technical skills, he also has great interpretation of music. He reminds me of a ballerina on ice, all grace and beauty and is a mesmerising performer. Nathan will probably win more gold medals, but he needs to put more effort into his programs to keep the interest of the public. I'm sure that Nathan has lots of fans but not at the level that Yuzu has.
@@mirapetrella8860 Totally agreed! I am still a fanyu despite Yuzu turning pro! My Gift ice show opera glass will be delivered to me via DHL next week...I am gonna watch Gift ice show at Tokyo Dome from my home in Brunei using this 10X magnifying power 🤣
@@lorrainemiddy4011 I have no doubt that Nathan was a great ballerina and he is a great athlete but I find that his figure skating style is too stiff. Raf has totally killed his artistic side with technical skating. Brian has allowed Yuzuru to keep his artistic side with the technical.
I am glad that Raf refused to work with Yuzuru as he would have stifled his artistic side with technical jumps and what not. Figure skating is both technical and artistic which is what Yuzuru has. Nathan on the other hand, though a great technical skater, has his artistic side minimised by Raf. I blame the ISU for continuously looking for the technical and not at the artistic. Figure skating should be both. Also keep in mind that Nathan, Ilia and other young skaters have been copying Yuzuru style of skating for a long time now. I have nothing against Nathan, I think he is a great skater but he will never surpass the brilliance of Yuzuru who, to this day, still have enormous influence in the figure skating community.
@@СветаСорокина-о8т ахаха фанатку японского петушка тригернуло 😂 не расстраивайся, может в другой жизни тебе повезёт больше и ты не будешь нищей никчемной страшилой 😏
Very interesting interview. Yuzu's star quality is undeniable.
Yuzuru Hanyu, respected by friends and foes ❤️🔥
Yuzuru é tudo ❤
We love you💗Yuzu💗
Raf just suited Nathan better, his attitude towards training and his personality would have not worked with Yuzuru Hanyu. Brian was better coach for Yuzuru. Boath coaches are amazing, but the same as it is in real life, there are people who just doesn´t fit each other.
Raf was too strict with this own ideas without allowing the scater to influence his own training model. He trained Nathat to WIN. And he succeded - however, sometimes the scores were really controversial (for the naked eye).
Judging from the situation now, Yuzuru Hanyu prooved why he was and IS called THE GOAT of figure skating. While Nathan´s skating is not seen anywhere now (despite the fact he has improved his artistry a lot) , Yuzuru Hanyu is still skating and is dedicated to figure-skating (even after his official retirement). His technique is still amazing and the artistry is still the best from the entire of competitive field. In his current state he would still be able to defeat the current competitive field 🙂 (I watched the wordshampionship 2023 - and I was quite dissappointed. Shoma Uno really deserved to win - he was the only one who combined both - technique AND artistry. When he touched the ice, the difference was obvious). It is VERY RARE to find the athlete who has both - artistry AND technique.
Because the technique is easier to teach and mark the trend of surpasing the artistry is obvious throughout the past years. However, if ISU wants to go this way they MUST consider two points:
1. without the artistry the figure skating will loose it´s charm/magic/atractiveness
2. the marking must be FAIR to everybody - so there has to be the better technical tools for counting the rotations, skater´s take-off and landing, ice coverage, speed, ...and such tools have already existed, they are just not accepted by ISU.
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How do you define the biggest compliments? They came from rival's coach. Raf knows Nathan is great but Yuzu is greater.
not really. Raf had no intention of letting Hanyu win over Nathan in seniors. he not only wanted Nathan to win, he wanted Nathan to dominate completely. thats what they did. What Rafael said about Hanyu? That is actually called a back-handed compliment. It is not biggest complement at all, but a backhanded one, cos Nathan beat Hanyu (not just once, but 6 times), so of cos, if Hanyu is great, Nathan is greater, and the coach that trained him to beat Hanyu is the greatest of all. Rafael is giving the biggest compliment to himself lol.
@@lorrainemiddy4011 really? Then explain to me why Raf was gushing like a school girl when he asked Yuzuru for his autograph. Please, Nathan will never be as good as Yuzuru no matter how hard Raf tries and Raf knows this.
@@mirapetrella8860 hahahaha, do you know when Raf asked Hanyu for autograph? that was at the very first competition when Nathan beat Hanyu for the first time lol!!!! Raf asked Hanyu for autograph after Hanyu lost to Nathan for the first time at 4CC in 2017, and this happened after the press conference lol. That too, was a total and complete backhanded compliment lol. Did you see how happy Rafael was, how he was grinning from ear to ear? You think it was becos he got to meet and get autograph from Hanyu, or becos Nathan his boy beat Hanyu? LOL! I think he asked autograph from Hanyu at 4CC PRECISELY becos Nathan beat Hanyu for first time, he took it as a momento...almost like an American Indian takes the scalp of the slain enemy lol. AS for Hanyu, just note how uncomfortable he looked, how very awkward he was. LOL. Silly you. You totally do NOT get the context. WHY WOULD RAFEL ASK HANYU FOR AUTOGRAPH AT THIS TIME, AT THIS COMPETITION? Had he never seen Hanyu before? Is this the first time? He had seen Hanyu so many times before, met him so many times before, why didn't he ask for autograph before then? Why ask for autograph at the very competition when Nathan beat Hanyu for first time? LOL. Use your brain. Raf was grinning so widely, that sly fox, he was visibly GLOATING WITH GLEE, he was so happy he couldn't suppress his exuberation. And Hanyu was literally grimacing with this uncomfortable frowning face lol. It was SO FUNNY!
You do not understand Rafael at all, that man is very smart and very enigmatic and very interesting, that sly old Russian master lol. He is so fun and so amazing. he has been playing chess with Hanyu for 10 years, and completely checkmated him with his white knight Nathan Chen. LOL. Compliment? THINK AGAIN.
@@lorrainemiddy4011 More than 6x if you count the team events. Hanyu basically lost every competition against Nathan after the 2018 Olympics by large margins. Hanyu skated only great when not facing Nathan during that period.
@@howardchan6167 true about group competitions. as for hanyu, he actually skated as he usually did. it is just that his less than perfect performances were still good enough to beat most others, including shoma uno. only when faced with nathan who could turn out flawless quad fueled performances was he at a disadvantage, and even his best was just not good enough.
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Very interesting, thank you for posting it....please, what year was it recorded?
2020/2021 i think
I never trusted RAF as someone who has best interests of skaters in mind. Same feeling with Yuzuru Hanyu.
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but this is already in english dear
@@freedom-e7p Maybe the person wanted Japanese translation. 🤔
日本語訳もつけて下さい。🙏
I think this interview is about six years old now. Raf says of Nathan, "I train him to beat him [Hanyu]." And that he did, very well. Nathan totally eclipsed Hanyu, winning the LP at the 2018 Olympics, and then serving Hanyu his most devastating losses of his career: beaten by Nathan by 22 points at Worlds 2019, beaten by 44 points at GPF 2019, beaten by 32 points at 2021 Worlds, and beaten by his biggest loss ever, 49 points ending up off the podium at the '22 Olympics. Nathan defeated Hanyu at least once every year of his career. Of the 11 times Nathan and Hanyu met in competition, Nathan won 7 of those events, and never lost to Hanyu again after the 2018 Olympics. Yes, I'll say Raf trained Nathan VERY well.
@@911randompsp I simply stated facts about Hanyu's competitions against Nathan. Unlike your petty insults, I didn't say anything against Hanyu personally. Getting petty and personal is typical of Fanyus, who everyone knows have the worst reputation in the skating world for their acidic attitudes. Nathan announced two years ago that he would go back to school to finish his degree. Raf fully supported that decision. Nathan wasn't "dumped" by Raf, and you know it. That's a lie. Nathan remains an eligible skater today, and Raf remains his coach even though he isn't competing.
It seems what can't be dealt with for you is the fact that Hanyu ended his career holding NO major figure skating championship titles, NO world records, and losing the Olympics by 49.39 points, ending up OFF the podium. In fact, Hanyu hadn't won anything in the last two years of his career and just faded out, never to land his MUCH talked about quad axel either. In contrast, Nathan went back to school as the 6-time undefeated National Champion, 3-time undefeated Grand Prix Final Champion, 3-time undefeated World Champion, and Olympic Champion holding all the world records for SP, LP, and total score. That's what you call going out ON TOP. Deal with it.
@@911randompsp "Don't waste your life hating on someone who has not done anything wrong to you."You mean like Nathan Chen, who didn't do anything to YOU? So take your own advice and stop lying about and insulting him. Goodbye.
@@911randompsp My original post was in reference to Raf saying that he prepared Nathan "to beat Hanyu", and he certainly did that. I never lied about Hanyu like you lied about Nathan being "dumped". NONE of that is true. I simply stated facts that are true from Hanyu's competitive record. They are what they are because they're true.
I also take issue with this video. It's a five-minute clip taken out of context from a MUCH longer interview with Raf years ago, and the poster of this video is clearly implying that Raf cares for or respects Hanyu more than his own skater, Nathan Chen...and that's also totally false. That's why I posted an excerpt from a much more recent interview Raf did right after Nathan won the Olympics where he is criticizing Hanyu's decision to add the quad axel to his Olympic LP, and said he knew Hanyu's LP would fall apart. Unlike the poster of this video, I included the link to the full interview, as well. No, Raf isn't "ga-ga" for Hanyu and holds much respect for his own student, Nathan.
@@911randompsp Sure, but Hanyu NEVER successfully defended a World Championship, NEVER had an undefeated season (Nathan had THREE), NEVER won both his GP assignment competitions in the same season until the 9th year of his career (one year AFTER the 2018 Olympics), NEVER mastered the quad lutz, NEVER did a quad flip, only skated TWO clean competitions with +GOE on all elements in his long 12-year career, won just 17 out of 41 international competitions for a losing record of just 41% (winning only 4 out of every 10 competitions)...I could go on, but I'll leave it at that.
@@911randompsp Goodbye. I'm NOT responding anymore. Keep trying to convince yourself.
Here is a more recent interview with Rafael Arutunyan shortly after Nathan Chen won the Olympic gold medal. Listen to how he says it's irresponsible to put a jump into competition that hasn't been properly secured in training. He uses Hanyu putting his quad axel in his Olympic LP as the example. He also said he knew Hanyu's jumps would fail because missing the quad axel would create a domino effect in his LP, and that's exactly what happened. So, I wouldn't assume Arutunyan is "ga-ga" over Hanyu. He said he didn't want Nathan to just win, but do "dominate", and that's exactly what he did.
Do you want to say that it also could be a reason why Yuzuru Hanyu wanted to jump a quadruple axel at the Olympic Games?
Rafael Arutyunyan: It could be so. When people from Chen’s close circle (I won’t name them) started trying to persuade me to put a quad loop in the free program, I said: “No way!”
Why?
Rafael Arutyunyan: Because you cannot put in the Olympic program a jump that is not sufficiently prepared in training. Yes, it can be done, but where is the guarantee that the rest of the program will not crumble? Well, who, tell me, benefited from the fact that Hanyu spent so much effort on an under-rotated quadruple axel, and then fell on the salchow?
Was it interesting for you to watch Yuzuru’s training attempts, from a professional point of view?
Rafael Arutyunyan: No. I knew that even if we assume that Hanyu somehow miraculously succeeds with this jump, then there is a high probability that something will break in some other place. After all, the question is not in the axel itself, but in the rest of the program, which must be skated, and without mistakes.
fs-gossips.com/rafael-arutyunyan-we-didnt-want-just-to-win-we-wanted-to-dominate-and-im-very-glad-that-this-is-exactly-what-happened-in-beijing/
In this same interview, the interviewer says to Rafael Arutyunyan: "Even a year ago, it was obvious that in the technical aspect, your athlete is head and shoulders above all his rivals, including Yuzuru Hanyu." Rafael knew this, too!
@Hope n Legacy Of course, Nathan would say that because he's a gracious and humble champion, but he also knows Hanyu is NOT in his league and that he surpassed Hanyu back in 2018. Nathan lets his competitive record, which towers over Hanyu's, speak for itself.
@Hope n Legacy Goodbye obsessed Fanyu! Keep trying to convince yourself.
神は決して創られません。いつの間にか人々が彼をそう呼び出すのです。そしてそう呼ばれることを許されているファギュアスケーターは羽生結弦だけです。
Raf admired Hanyu but he refused to work with Hanyu as coach cos he had Nathan, who was junior at that time, and he knew what Nathan was capable of, just as he knows what Ilia Malinin is capable of in the future now. He knew Nathan could beat everyone else eventually, but he was still a junior and had not even reached his potential yet, so he just didn't speak about Nathan, but right from the time Nathan went to him at 13, he had the long range plan to train him into Olympic champion. In this interview, when talking about Nathan, it shows the high expectations Rafael had of him. He is saying, Nathan was not there yet, what is there to speak of then, even if he won juniors, he didn't skate transcendentally, like he will do in the future. No need to get ahead, the time to rejoice is not yet.
As for Hanyu, if Rafael had agreed to take him on, he would no doubt have gone to Rafael in the US to train, even with Nathan there. That's what he did with Brain Orser in Toronto. He went to Orser because Javier Fernandez, who was landing his quads nicely at that time, was with Orser. But Rafael is not like Orser, he keeps his cards close to his chest, and he does not do open-house training like Orser. Rafael is a jump specialist, Brian Orser is not. If Rafael had agreed to work with Hanyu, Hanyu would undoubtedly have gone to him to improve his quads, which more often than not, he could not land cleanly. But Rafael knew what he was doing. Rafael works only with established skaters with the exception of Nathan Chen, who was and is the one and only skater Rafael personally cultivated from young age. Nathan was his "life" project as coach. He succeeded.
Rafael started smiling in 2017 after Nathan skated when Nathan beat Hanyu for the first time at 4CC. Only at the Olympics, he didn't smile. He didn't smile at Pyeongchang cos Nathan fouled up the SP, and at Beijing, when Nathan pulverised Hanyu's world record for the SP, he didn't smile, he cried.
Thank God! Yuzu didn't go to Rafael. I wouldn't even want to be a fan to a skater who only know how to jump and doing simple cross -over without complex and difficult transitions. The competition programmes must be dead boring! We wouldn't be seeing Yuzu's numerous mesmerising programmes like Seimei, Hope & legacy, Chopin Ballard no.1 etc, Exhibition gala like Notte stellata, Haru yu koi etc.Rafael does not give a damn about having good skating skills (like orser and Tracy). Yuzu has to relearned his skating skills from beginning when he went to Orser.Orser let Yuzu decides on his competition programmes (not till phantom of opera) and Yuzu has the freedom to choose what he likes in music, choreography and costumes.With Rafael, I don't think Yuzu will be granted this freedom and this will definitely kill Yuzu's passion for ice skating. Bravo Yuzu, you have made the right choice for choosing TCC and so much relief for millions of fanyus🥳🎉
I am also glad that Yuzu did not go to Rafael. Though Nathan is good technically, he has no fluidity in his motions, he is too wooden when he performs. Yuzu not only has great technical skills, he also has great interpretation of music. He reminds me of a ballerina on ice, all grace and beauty and is a mesmerising performer. Nathan will probably win more gold medals, but he needs to put more effort into his programs to keep the interest of the public. I'm sure that Nathan has lots of fans but not at the level that Yuzu has.
@@mirapetrella8860 Totally agreed! I am still a fanyu despite Yuzu turning pro! My Gift ice show opera glass will be delivered to me via DHL next week...I am gonna watch Gift ice show at Tokyo Dome from my home in Brunei using this 10X magnifying power 🤣
@@lorrainemiddy4011 I have no doubt that Nathan was a great ballerina and he is a great athlete but I find that his figure skating style is too stiff. Raf has totally killed his artistic side with technical skating. Brian has allowed Yuzuru to keep his artistic side with the technical.
I am glad that Raf refused to work with Yuzuru as he would have stifled his artistic side with technical jumps and what not. Figure skating is both technical and artistic which is what Yuzuru has. Nathan on the other hand, though a great technical skater, has his artistic side minimised by Raf. I blame the ISU for continuously looking for the technical and not at the artistic. Figure skating should be both. Also keep in mind that Nathan, Ilia and other young skaters have been copying Yuzuru style of skating for a long time now. I have nothing against Nathan, I think he is a great skater but he will never surpass the brilliance of Yuzuru who, to this day, still have enormous influence in the figure skating community.
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Такие комментарии всегда пишут неудовлетворенные своей жизнью неудачники, неспособные что-то создать, чего либо достичь.. Молчали бы лучше...
@@СветаСорокина-о8т ахаха фанатку японского петушка тригернуло 😂 не расстраивайся, может в другой жизни тебе повезёт больше и ты не будешь нищей никчемной страшилой 😏