Yep you were spot on with that assessment lol...He is trying so hard and you handled it beautifully when he got to pushy,very forgiving this guy. I really like what I see with Brutus and like you Camille I see very big things in this guy's future. I had a rescued TB that presented with ulcers and believe me he was 10 x worse in his reactions to touch so i give this big guy alot of credit for restraint lol. Great video with him and can't wait to see how he's coming along and if the ulcer meds are doing the trick. Be safe y'all.
Hi Camille, i just came across some of your youtube video's. One of the one's i watched was you gentling "Brutus". You suspected he may have ulcers, and said you would put some powdered medication in his feed. Probably (probios) powder..??. A VERY simple technique you can use if you suspect ulcers in your horse, is to use a food probe, Ph level tester, they are quite cheap. Stick it into his fresh manure, a healthy gut should be 6.8, if it's 6.5 or lower, this is a pretty good indication of "Hindgut acidosis" and more than likely ulcers.! Doing this can save a visit from the vet who will do an endoscopy at great expense..! Hope this info has been helpful, really enjoy your video's. John from Perth, West Australia
Hello Camille! My name is Lizzy and I'm 15 years old. I have loved horses ever since I was a little girl and always pretended to be one, haha. I've always dreamed of training mustangs but I never knew how to start off. I can't just walk into a pen with one and wing it, that's a bad idea 😅. So, I looked up videos online and came over tons of titles called "Mustang Makeovers". Since then, I've binge-watched almost every video there is out there and fell in love with the process. Soon after, I stumbled upon your channel. After watching one video, I immediately subscribed. Out of all the training videos I've watched, I felt as if yours are very informative and clear. You seem like a very awesome person, keep up the nice work! :) But enought with that haha, I have a few questions if you don't mind answering them. I came to ask, how did you start off training mustangs? I don't have experience at all with wild mustangs but I am willing to learn. How does the process work when first learning how to handle them? Do I need to take classes to learn the basics? How about applying for the challenges? Lastly, what should I look for when adopting a mustang (what to avoid, et cetera)? I'm sorry if my questions are confusing, I never really comment on videos. Irl I am a complete introvert so me typing this feels awkward for me 🤣🤦♀️. I've looked all over the internet asking these types questions and I have found nothing that would help me understand step by step on how to start off for the first time. It would really mean a lot to me if you reply! Thank you :) Sincerely, Lizzy
Kremit I would see if there is a mustang trainer in your area you can learn from. Try asking in Facebook groups such as “The BLM Mustang Family”, “TIP - Trainers Incentive Program” and all the different extreme mustang makeover groups
Lizzy, first thing you got to do is learn the horse language of pressure and release, this is the fundamentals of horsemanship. You have to learn how to read the horse body and signs, so you know what is pressure and what is release for each horse.
I know how you feel lizzy. I adopted my first mustang when I was fifteen. That was in march. I am now 16. I already had a pretty good foundation in fundamentals and riding first though. It is important to learn this before adopting a mustang. I would probably start off with a younger horse. Not all younger ones are easier, there are exceptions, but they tend to be a bit more trusting.
Hi there! I've been following and watching your videos since your last beautiful guy, julius. 😍 However, this newest guy you're working with, has me checking for new videos daily! A few weeks ago, I adopted not only my very first blm mustang, but ended up with 2! Ironically my mares are from the same HMA as this guy! They are both 3 year olds, and were caught at the same round up. I couldnt help myself, once finding that out. They came from 2 different TIP trainers locally to me in KY. One of the mares is an absolute dream to work with, where I am very much a beginner. She has helped me build confidence within myself, as well as helped me along with learning right along with her. Now the other mare...is very much just like this big guy. I can not touch past her neck with my hands, but I can with my training stick. She always wants to keep me directly in front of her, and has even nipped at me a handful of times within the first week of me working with her 😔 Once I figured out what she was trying to do, I started to correct it the best I knew how at the time. Thankfully she hasn't tried to do that again. This video showed me exactly how to handle it, if she ever were to act that way again. Thank you! Please, please, please keep the progress videos coming with this guy, as your schedule allows of course! 😊 Im feeling stuck with this mares training, but I'm determined to make things work. I think it's great when people like you share your experiences to the public. It truly does help so many, and in turn helps horses as well ❤
So glad you have these videos up. I have a mustang a lot like this. He acts very similar and this helps me out because I can see what you do to work through it. Most people edit out the parts like this. I love that you keep them. Thank you
I love watching you work with the mustangs You do such a good job Its easy for the people watching a video to be judgy its much harder to make a call in the moment and i think your doing awesome! Thanks for sharing these vids 😁
This video was a big help to me with the training of my other mustang, Cobra, who likes to be a bit aggressive at times. It's nice to see you show footage of it and how you tried to resolve it instead of cutting it out to make the gentling look easier. Side note, Al and I have come a huge way since the clinic! I didn't send him off to training because I really just couldn't bring myself to, so I started him undersaddle myself and we are really going places! He's walk, trot, loping pretty well, learning how to give to the bit some and we even rode off property in a big arena for the first time already. (He's had 8 rides so far). I've been able to establish that connection with him through liberty work and he tries his heart out to please me. We've nearly got Sams lay down method down (I still use the bow with a belly tap cue mostly), he has the Spanish walk, he side passes to and from me with just a hand gesture (he side passes to the mounting block!) we are getting there with liberty circles but I really need to work on his draw to me. Our biggest issue is still... the backup. I don't know why he hates it so much. It's gotten better for sure but he'd still rather sidepass or ignore me lol. I wish I had social media's to connect and share his progress with you! I think some of it can be found on Alejandro 2020 Texas TIP Challenge or something of that sort on Facebook but his TIP trainer posts some of the videos that I send her on there. Sorry for my whole book 😂. I really hope I can work with you again in the future!
Thank you for making these videos. I saved 3 horses from severe abuse. Gelding's we're forgotten about,and left in a closed tent during COVID and 90+ degree weather. The caretaker was. Busy giving trailer rides. My husband and I found them. 1 horse didn't make it. And the two I have now were near death. Dehydrated and starving. My husband and I got syringes,and tepid water and slowly gave to the two gelding's. They were laying down with white foam coming out of their mouths. Had to do something fast. But slowly, not to shock them. Called. In Two vets that I work with and my friend who is a carrier. They all arrived in minutes. I bought the 2 gelding's. When we went outside of the tent, the caretaker came back with the trail riders. One beautiful older gelding , you can tell was exhausted and in pain. There was a man weight approx 400lbs on him. He was buted to keep working dragging his toes down to nothing. I bought him too. Asked the man to nicely get off of the tired horse. And I gave the man his money. A k for the trail ride. The vet and farrier both explained to the man what was wrong. He donated the money back for the horses care. I like your. Videos because you explain everything you need to know and understand about a horse. I'm still learning, but I'm told that I'm doing very well with my 3 gelding son's. Thank you. I'm buying a bigger house with more acreage for saving horses. I would love to save some mustangs. But I'm going to keep watching your videos first! Kroth.
Sweetie you are amazeing with these animals I'm so grateful to u my grandfather had a connection like you do with mustangs he understood them and he had a soul connection like I c that you do and it's amazeing people like you are a rare find so THANK YOU
Way to go Camille! The bladder meridian runs over the poll and down the back. It might be lit up a little from the possible ulcers around where you are brushing. .
Just as an observer he seemed more protective of his left side from the beginning. Much more attentive action with his head and trying to get between you and his side. That stomp action with the front feet also seems more of a "dislike" action....than flies. His head set, ears and leg stomp appeared pretty definite an action...and that snort too! He has a distinctive and strong personality....definitely will be a challenge but once won over will be worth the work!
That brush felt so good, intel it became a weapon. Love watching your video's Note: I totally say please and thank you to mine and my client's horses. It looks good in front of clients, and it keeps you in a good mind set, it's hard not to get frustrated sometimes.
I like that you address that all ages have pros and cons because so many people want young horses thinking they are easier and then don't understand why their young horse is so spooky. I've noticed a lot of people forget is that older horses have seen more than younger horses. Sure they might be more set in their ways the older they get, but they have faced a LOT in life and, from everything I've seen, tend to be more level headed and less spooky
Me clicking off this video is not an indication of interest. I just have to go to work. 😂😂 I just love this big guy, he's so regal looking. Theres something to be said for a "plain" bay!
Thank you so very much for this video i just bought an unhandled yearling thats already 14.1hh and she is aggressive towards anyone who trys to pet/pat her. This video has helped tremendously
Both my boys were very sensitive around that area. I was thinking ulcers too. Good catch. I didn't realize it with my first guy until later. Second guy I just didn't touch much until he healed. He was much sweeter about it, though, and just blocked me with his head until I started listening to him. One of the other horses made the mistake of running smack into his side first day. Oooof. Not pretty.
⭐⭐⭐Keeping bacon grease on the wounds that have scabbed over.. makes the hair grow back the natural color, instead of scaring over in white hair. I haven't found any reg. medication that stops the hair from coming back in white.. only this old school remedy but it WORKS every time!! Just keep it in a jar in the fridge. 💜Great job btw !!
I love your training videos and how you explain a lot of things since I’m trying to learn pressure and release with my pony but what was the reason you made him move in Leg Work when he spooked off? Was it so he would learn not to run off when you get closer? Also what’s that sucking sound as he trots? Thanks for your informative videos. :)
Do you have a vlog about what you feed the Mustangs. I’m getting 3 very soon and want to be prepared on exactly what feed best suits Mustangs besides just alph alpha hay. Thank you
Hi Camille, if I remember correctly wasn't he the one who got banged up when you had to stop short on the way home. Possibly had some bruising of bone and muscle. Totally agree that aggression is not ok.
Great video!!! Could you leave a link for the Nature's Gold? Literally just got our first mustangs home this evening and the one mare has some scrapes that could stand a little attention. Thanks!! Can't wait to see how Brutus progresses :).
Lani Vlaanderen here is the link! And don’t forget you can use the code CAMILLEGHO to save money. Congrats on your new mustangs! www.greenhorseorganics.org/product-page/natures-gold-skin-doctor
Aloe Vera juice from walmart is what my vet recommends. About 1/4 cup once a day, twice if you feel that he needs it. A large jug costs 6 bucks & change and lasts a good while. My Walmart carries it in the pharmacy section.
An after thought.... some horses react better to a more definite feel of touch ....maybe a stiffer bristled brush would give him a better "contact" feel.....with a more definite stronger brushing action. Also hoping that if there is an ulcer that the meds will help ease his actions...
Donna C. We have a horse at the barn I ride at who was just awful to anyone who would brush using the soft brush. I noticed he was usually fine with a currycomb, so I did a test the first time I groomed him, and tried different pressures with the soft brush.... it was very clear that he needed a “deep touch” and hated light brushing. So he was always relaxed when I’d brush him because I recognized this and would consciously brush him deep...(I used a slightly damp rag for surface dust) WELL.... about three months after I figured out his brushing issue, he colicked badly...the longest colic I had ever experienced, his symptoms contained for at least a week .yes a vet saw him many times, and in the course of treatment they diagnosed ulcers(no big surprise!). Thankfully he recovered, his owners have put him on an ulcer protocol AND NOW he is much less grumpy, accepts light touch and is a much softer more balanced ride. He was TELLING everyone that his tummy hurt, but sometimes humans simply can’t interpret horse behavior as well as we’d like. I’ve personally experienced emotional upset that was connected to digestive issues... one week many years ago I was feeling angry at the drop of a hat- even I couldn’t explain what was making me so edgy.... until one night I woke up screaming, while my stomach felt as though I had shards of glass inside. Turns out that my grump was the prelude to a ruptured appendix! (Almost died, many weeks in hospital etc. ok now, some lingering issues but I’m alive) with this, I might be a bit extra on this subject, but when is see odd/aggression/moody behaviors, one of the first things that pops into my mind is “tummy troubles”
@@FluxyMiniscus I have not had horses for many years.....and love learning in today's horse world. They have learned so much in every aspect....in my day we never even considered ulcers to be an issue. It could very well make a horse over react when in pain. So maybe there will be a huge improvement in the works for Brutus. Hope so......his dominate personality may improve.
One of the reasons that wild horses, at least stallions are so sensitive about their legs is when two stallions get together n fight. When they start to fight you will notice that they will try to grab n bite at the elbow n legs of each other trying to cripple their opponent. As far as the sensitive spot goes. That could b a big bruise that hasn’t healed completely, from him getting kicked by another horse, while at the BLM. I could tell from day one that he was going to try to attack you. I am surprised that he waited so long about it. It usually takes about 8 to 12 months after they are gelded to get the stallion aggression out of him, so beware. Proud of you for not letting him get away with it. You nipped it in the bud, for now. Great job, but b careful.
He doesn't have aggression issues. He is just a horse. And a male one, probably only recently gelded that had plenty of fighting practice with his male buddies, making himself ready to eventually fight to take over a herd. So he is just trying a strategy he has experience with. Mares are more subtle, but stallions all have a certain amount of open aggression potential. And if you don't shut that down immediately, you are having a problem. That's the reason why most people shouldn't own one.
@@petrairene plus you watch she says he uld have ulcers. I wouldn't exactly call responding to pain "aggression". Just a pain response, and she taught him that he can't respond in that way
@@petrairene of course, thats kind of what i meant. by aggression issues i didn't necessarily mean he had an ongoing problem with aggression, i just knew that it was going to be a little problem as i saw he was very fighty rather than flighty. yes he is trying a new strategy, and yes he obviously was gelded. i know that. i'm not sure what point you were trying to prove, if any, but she did exactly that anyway and shut him down. also, just because some stallions can have potential aggression, doesn't mean people shouldn't own one..?
She threw the brush to give him a tap on the butt to get him moving, and small pens like this are necessary for this kind of training to stay close and maintain control
@@sandieadams9529 No it was to get him out of her space to regain respect. At least be knowledgeable. Sometimes to train an animal you need to speak in a language they understand. When horses want to tell each other they screwed up or need to move they usually kick or bite each other. Something they can feel thats unpleasant but doesnt cause injury. Just like she did.
It appears as if he's trying really hard to keep his right eye on you. I'm only at minute 50 at this point...now I'm at the start of your second session and it really does appear that he's more comfortable with you on his right.
Yes I know how you have to read a horses signs. I misread a sign in January of this year and I ended up with 19 stitches in my face because to horse bit me. Be careful
So snorty!! Lol. An interesting horse.... Be very careful, he seems more unpredictable than most. It's like he's so undecided. Heaps of potential to be a very handsome, athletic horse tho, and a good size too! Enjoy the full length of your vids.
Braver than I my girl lol if I may make a suggestion for your videos. I notice you don't take your eyes off of the horse for long and are talking back and forth towards the camera, why not a Mic? so that you could completely focus on the horse instead of looking back and forth. When you're in that pen facing the back the volume isn't very good and is your handsome husband standing with you? If he could zoom in when you're on the back side would be wonderful!!! I just don't want to miss a single part of your videos!!! Great job so far!!!
I would suggest a helmet and maybe even a x country vest. It’s professional and if you’re putting videos like this out there, it can influence others. Consider subscribing to Elisa Wallace’s channel. Don’t get me wrong, you seem like you have things under control, just a suggestion
Shoul Ahad yes I heard that as well. But his trippiness in his back end makes me wonder if he’s sound. It’s hard to tell in such a small space, but I’m sure she’ll figure it out!
Rachael Bedell it maybe the sheath tbh,has it causes pain,but yes he maybe a little lame,but it could come across that way if he needs his bits cleaning😂it’s awful to do and it stinks 🤢🤮😂😂
He bit her if she let that slide then he would’ve have learned that it’s ok to bite people and the behavior would have gotten worse, if My horse tried to bite me she’d get popped her on the nose😂
Before people rip me to shreads I wanted to say usually love your training, but when he went to nip at you and you yelled he instantly took off. Throwing the brush at him must have been a knee jerk reaction as the saying goes. I know it didn't hurt him,, but fear is easily put right back into the horses.. I know when training the horses I have worked with something like throwing the brush can then take time for the horse to adjust and trust again, instead of just saying "hey" like you did which is much better. Especially with very wild horses. But overall, you are doing great! Ever thought of rescuing from kill pens??
I love your mustang videos but now I am thoroughly confused. My understanding is that the BLM will pay 1,000$ to people to adopt wild mustangs yet you are in videos bidding on horses and for example you won Jude for 105$. Then you competed in the wild mustang event and afterward Jude went off to a new owner. I know that after these events the horses are auctioned to the highest bidder and the trainer has a right to bid just like everyone else. What I don't understand is why you have to bid for the horse and after the horse is auctioned off do you as the initial adopter and trainer receive your 105$ back?
I don't doubt this woman's ability to train horses. She has shown she is a decent horsewoman however, i think she would be more successful if she wasn't so aggressive and loud or obnoxious around them. They are prey animals. The best horse trainers are the quiet and gentle soft voiced ones. They observe the horse. She does not do that. She has a very dominate intimidating aura and most like makes these herd animals reactive. So her ability definitely isn't natural. Some people do have anatrial ability to calm the horse. Usually these people are introverted and gentle in spirit. Also one thing i always found strange are people usually women who talk to these animals like they're infants. A soft one tone voice shouid be used always. Not a high pitched obnoxious voice. This may be the reason usually men are better working with these animals. Pressure relase, gentle hands and voice around a recently gelded stallion.
Why didn't you address the pinned ears, stamped foot and ringing tail that started well before 15:00 (where I finally checked the time) - all aggression signs that happened much earlier before he nipped? You said it was a video about dealing with aggression but you didn't respond to those. I felt that you were wrong to keep letting these slide by. I do have to applaud you for the effort you put into these horses, undoubtedly saving a horse from the meat market with each one you find a new home for through training them. I do think you push every lesson I've watch way too long and always pressing them just a bit too far, asking them to accept one more thing. Brutus here, also looks stiff through his poll, upper neck region, like he is painful through the first 3 vertebra.
I’m glad you can diagnose a horse through a RUclips video, you must be a very talented mustang trainer. The stomping and tail swatting you are referring to is due to blare amount of flies on him. He exhibits those behaviors even when I am not in the pen with him
@@CamillesMustangsthat's why I didn't get a time for when it started. I'm watching a video that isn't right on the spot to see if it is flies or not. But you watch the video yourself - it is always the foot nearest to you with pinned ears and a wrung-tail swish. Once, maybe twice, I would have let it go as flies. And you have no idea who you are addressing in these comments and your reply is rather rude. I don't have much experience training mustangs, only having had two off the range and the offspring of one of those in my history. Those aggressive behaviour are not limited to mustangs - all equines exhibit aggression through those behaviour - maybe 'my' mustangs were special and 'learned' those behaviours from my other horses?
@@georgegoertzen4723 No guy, YOU are being rude. She's not the only one sick of backseat riders and natural horsemanship gurus that think their way is the only way and everyone else is wrong. If you don't tolerate tail swishes or ear movement from your horses, they're probably terrified to move in your presence. Shutting down communication does not change their attitude. And for fucks sake, we all know horses stomp at flies more than they stomp at humans. Why jump to the least likely conclusion? Why punish a horse for swishing at a fly? They don't learn anything but that humans are unpredictable bullies and they need to hold their breath in your presence. That's not leadership. 🙄👎
George Goertzen Not sure what you are seeing because I can see him twitch his skin from a fly every time before he stomps. It looks pretty obvious to me. Don’t get me wrong, he does look agitated with her, but the stomping and swishing is clearly flies.
Haha I love how Julius is just hanging out in next to the pen like “yeah dude, I just went through this too, it’s not so bad.” 😂
I'm sorry I laughed when you tossed the brush at him xD like "Excuse me sir, how dare you"
Yep you were spot on with that assessment lol...He is trying so hard and you handled it beautifully when he got to pushy,very forgiving this guy. I really like what I see with Brutus and like you Camille I see very big things in this guy's future. I had a rescued TB that presented with ulcers and believe me he was 10 x worse in his reactions to touch so i give this big guy alot of credit for restraint lol. Great video with him and can't wait to see how he's coming along and if the ulcer meds are doing the trick. Be safe y'all.
Your self control, confidence and even keel speaks volumes to this horse. It keeps him balanced when he wants to freak out.
You can see how hard he is trying for you, such a good boy!!
Hi Camille, i just came across some of your youtube video's. One of the one's i watched was you gentling "Brutus". You suspected he may have ulcers, and said you would put some powdered medication in his feed. Probably (probios) powder..??. A VERY simple technique you can use if you suspect ulcers in your horse, is to use a food probe, Ph level tester, they are quite cheap. Stick it into his fresh manure, a healthy gut should be 6.8, if it's 6.5 or lower, this is a pretty good indication of "Hindgut acidosis" and more than likely ulcers.! Doing this can save a visit from the vet who will do an endoscopy at great expense..! Hope this info has been helpful, really enjoy your video's. John from Perth, West Australia
Hello Camille!
My name is Lizzy and I'm 15 years old. I have loved horses ever since I was a little girl and always pretended to be one, haha. I've always dreamed of training mustangs but I never knew how to start off. I can't just walk into a pen with one and wing it, that's a bad idea 😅. So, I looked up videos online and came over tons of titles called "Mustang Makeovers". Since then, I've binge-watched almost every video there is out there and fell in love with the process. Soon after, I stumbled upon your channel. After watching one video, I immediately subscribed. Out of all the training videos I've watched, I felt as if yours are very informative and clear. You seem like a very awesome person, keep up the nice work! :)
But enought with that haha, I have a few questions if you don't mind answering them. I came to ask, how did you start off training mustangs? I don't have experience at all with wild mustangs but I am willing to learn. How does the process work when first learning how to handle them? Do I need to take classes to learn the basics? How about applying for the challenges? Lastly, what should I look for when adopting a mustang (what to avoid, et cetera)? I'm sorry if my questions are confusing, I never really comment on videos. Irl I am a complete introvert so me typing this feels awkward for me 🤣🤦♀️.
I've looked all over the internet asking these types questions and I have found nothing that would help me understand step by step on how to start off for the first time. It would really mean a lot to me if you reply! Thank you :)
Sincerely,
Lizzy
Kremit I would see if there is a mustang trainer in your area you can learn from. Try asking in Facebook groups such as “The BLM Mustang Family”, “TIP - Trainers Incentive Program” and all the different extreme mustang makeover groups
@@CamillesMustangs Okay, thank you so much for taking the time to reply! 😊
Lizzy, first thing you got to do is learn the horse language of pressure and release, this is the fundamentals of horsemanship. You have to learn how to read the horse body and signs, so you know what is pressure and what is release for each horse.
I know how you feel lizzy. I adopted my first mustang when I was fifteen. That was in march. I am now 16. I already had a pretty good foundation in fundamentals and riding first though. It is important to learn this before adopting a mustang. I would probably start off with a younger horse. Not all younger ones are easier, there are exceptions, but they tend to be a bit more trusting.
Hi there! I've been following and watching your videos since your last beautiful guy, julius. 😍 However, this newest guy you're working with, has me checking for new videos daily! A few weeks ago, I adopted not only my very first blm mustang, but ended up with 2! Ironically my mares are from the same HMA as this guy! They are both 3 year olds, and were caught at the same round up. I couldnt help myself, once finding that out. They came from 2 different TIP trainers locally to me in KY. One of the mares is an absolute dream to work with, where I am very much a beginner. She has helped me build confidence within myself, as well as helped me along with learning right along with her. Now the other mare...is very much just like this big guy. I can not touch past her neck with my hands, but I can with my training stick. She always wants to keep me directly in front of her, and has even nipped at me a handful of times within the first week of me working with her 😔 Once I figured out what she was trying to do, I started to correct it the best I knew how at the time. Thankfully she hasn't tried to do that again. This video showed me exactly how to handle it, if she ever were to act that way again. Thank you! Please, please, please keep the progress videos coming with this guy, as your schedule allows of course! 😊 Im feeling stuck with this mares training, but I'm determined to make things work. I think it's great when people like you share your experiences to the public. It truly does help so many, and in turn helps horses as well ❤
Thank you! And congratulations on your new mustangs!
So glad you have these videos up. I have a mustang a lot like this. He acts very similar and this helps me out because I can see what you do to work through it. Most people edit out the parts like this. I love that you keep them. Thank you
I love watching you work with the mustangs You do such a good job Its easy for the people watching a video to be judgy its much harder to make a call in the moment and i think your doing awesome!
Thanks for sharing these vids 😁
This video was a big help to me with the training of my other mustang, Cobra, who likes to be a bit aggressive at times. It's nice to see you show footage of it and how you tried to resolve it instead of cutting it out to make the gentling look easier.
Side note, Al and I have come a huge way since the clinic! I didn't send him off to training because I really just couldn't bring myself to, so I started him undersaddle myself and we are really going places! He's walk, trot, loping pretty well, learning how to give to the bit some and we even rode off property in a big arena for the first time already. (He's had 8 rides so far). I've been able to establish that connection with him through liberty work and he tries his heart out to please me.
We've nearly got Sams lay down method down (I still use the bow with a belly tap cue mostly), he has the Spanish walk, he side passes to and from me with just a hand gesture (he side passes to the mounting block!) we are getting there with liberty circles but I really need to work on his draw to me.
Our biggest issue is still... the backup. I don't know why he hates it so much. It's gotten better for sure but he'd still rather sidepass or ignore me lol.
I wish I had social media's to connect and share his progress with you!
I think some of it can be found on Alejandro 2020 Texas TIP Challenge or something of that sort on Facebook but his TIP trainer posts some of the videos that I send her on there.
Sorry for my whole book 😂. I really hope I can work with you again in the future!
I’m so glad to hear this update!
Thank you for making these videos. I saved 3 horses from severe abuse. Gelding's we're forgotten about,and left in a closed tent during COVID and 90+ degree weather. The caretaker was. Busy giving trailer rides. My husband and I found them. 1 horse didn't make it. And the two I have now were near death. Dehydrated and starving. My husband and I got syringes,and tepid water and slowly gave to the two gelding's. They were laying down with white foam coming out of their mouths. Had to do something fast. But slowly, not to shock them. Called. In Two vets that I work with and my friend who is a carrier. They all arrived in minutes. I bought the 2 gelding's. When we went outside of the tent, the caretaker came back with the trail riders. One beautiful older gelding , you can tell was exhausted and in pain. There was a man weight approx 400lbs on him. He was buted to keep working dragging his toes down to nothing. I bought him too. Asked the man to nicely get off of the tired horse. And I gave the man his money. A k for the trail ride. The vet and farrier both explained to the man what was wrong. He donated the money back for the horses care. I like your. Videos because you explain everything you need to know and understand about a horse. I'm still learning, but I'm told that I'm doing very well with my 3 gelding son's. Thank you. I'm buying a bigger house with more acreage for saving horses. I would love to save some mustangs. But I'm going to keep watching your videos first! Kroth.
Sweetie you are amazeing with these animals I'm so grateful to u my grandfather had a connection like you do with mustangs he understood them and he had a soul connection like I c that you do and it's amazeing people like you are a rare find so THANK YOU
I love this vid and I love how you handle horses and you don’t give up!
who else wanted to tell her where she threw the brush at 36:54 =)
Way to go Camille! The bladder meridian runs over the poll and down the back. It might be lit up a little from the possible ulcers around where you are brushing. .
Just as an observer he seemed more protective of his left side from the beginning. Much more attentive action with his head and trying to get between you and his side. That stomp action with the front feet also seems more of a "dislike" action....than flies. His head set, ears and leg stomp appeared pretty definite an action...and that snort too! He has a distinctive and strong personality....definitely will be a challenge but once won over will be worth the work!
He is SO gorgeous!!
You handled that like a pro! Great job!
At 24:20 I jumped when he jumped and spilled my coffee. Into the video? Yes!
Great video. And smart comments at the Beginning!!!
That brush felt so good, intel it became a weapon. Love watching your video's
Note: I totally say please and thank you to mine and my client's horses. It looks good in front of clients, and it keeps you in a good mind set, it's hard not to get frustrated sometimes.
I like that you address that all ages have pros and cons because so many people want young horses thinking they are easier and then don't understand why their young horse is so spooky.
I've noticed a lot of people forget is that older horses have seen more than younger horses. Sure they might be more set in their ways the older they get, but they have faced a LOT in life and, from everything I've seen, tend to be more level headed and less spooky
Me clicking off this video is not an indication of interest. I just have to go to work. 😂😂
I just love this big guy, he's so regal looking. Theres something to be said for a "plain" bay!
How's it going? Been looking for updates. Did he get over the ulcers?
You totally understand Brutus. Good job.
Thank you so very much for this video i just bought an unhandled yearling thats already 14.1hh and she is aggressive towards anyone who trys to pet/pat her. This video has helped tremendously
Both my boys were very sensitive around that area. I was thinking ulcers too. Good catch. I didn't realize it with my first guy until later. Second guy I just didn't touch much until he healed. He was much sweeter about it, though, and just blocked me with his head until I started listening to him. One of the other horses made the mistake of running smack into his side first day. Oooof. Not pretty.
you have help me learn how to trane horses and what I want to do when im older thanks so much for the great videos never stop
Súper sweaty once you went to that right side. He had a bad experience on that right side, but you’re so good to him🙌🏽
He’s expressive and alert. I hope it continues to go well. It’s nice you noticed he needed some treatment from his behaviour.
⭐⭐⭐Keeping bacon grease on the wounds that have scabbed over.. makes the hair grow back the natural color, instead of scaring over in white hair. I haven't found any reg. medication that stops the hair from coming back in white.. only this old school remedy but it WORKS every time!! Just keep it in a jar in the fridge. 💜Great job btw !!
Excellent. So interesting.
I love your training videos and how you explain a lot of things since I’m trying to learn pressure and release with my pony but what was the reason you made him move in Leg Work when he spooked off? Was it so he would learn not to run off when you get closer? Also what’s that sucking sound as he trots? Thanks for your informative videos. :)
So informative. Thank you for this!
Do you have a vlog about what you feed the Mustangs. I’m getting 3 very soon and want to be prepared on exactly what feed best suits Mustangs besides just alph alpha hay. Thank you
He’s beautiful! 🤗❤️
Hi Camille, if I remember correctly wasn't he the one who got banged up when you had to stop short on the way home. Possibly had some bruising of bone and muscle. Totally agree that aggression is not ok.
Ulcers do seem to be common among mustang's. Glad his behavior is improving;)
We need updates on Julius! How is that big guy? Is he making lots of improvements?
He is doing awesome! My next upload will be on him :)
@@CamillesMustangs Yay I am so glad, I think he is my favorite right now. What a beautiful horse!
Julius was a lot more curious and open to new experiences.
Hey how he's doing since you had him
Love your channel- what beautiful animals and spirits! have you checked out “when horses choose”? Thanks for sharing your journeys!
I've seen him stumble several times when circling, wondering if maybe he's been kicked or hurt by the other horses he was with.
Fascinating content
What powder stuff did u use for the ulcers?
Great video!!! Could you leave a link for the Nature's Gold? Literally just got our first mustangs home this evening and the one mare has some scrapes that could stand a little attention. Thanks!! Can't wait to see how Brutus progresses :).
Lani Vlaanderen here is the link! And don’t forget you can use the code CAMILLEGHO to save money. Congrats on your new mustangs! www.greenhorseorganics.org/product-page/natures-gold-skin-doctor
He’s a Beauty!
Did you ever find the brush
Im curious is there any benefit you get from having a mustang over a born domestic horse? Are they better for specific jobs?
Aloe Vera juice from walmart is what my vet recommends. About 1/4 cup once a day, twice if you feel that he needs it. A large jug costs 6 bucks & change and lasts a good while. My Walmart carries it in the pharmacy section.
Leslie Gray he’s started on that as well!
My mare was in that when she had ulcers and it was a life saver! (Not literally lol)
What HMA is Brutus from?
BEAUTIFUL SWEET MAN!!!!😍🙋🏼♀️
What's the name of the cream you used on his nose
What gives a horse ulcers? Is it just mustang that get them?
Every horse can get them. Stress is the main factor, but some breeds are more likely to get them (hot bloods like thoroughbreds and arabians)
His sheath needed cleaning,lol I call it a gulping sound.😂
What do you do? Gentle and then sell them or what? Just curious
yes, thats mainly what she does but she ended up keeping tuxedo and aurora.
He may have been fighting, he may have a crack ribs.
I’m curious, which mustang has been the easiest to break and gently?
Probably Julius
Do you sell hats or shirts cause why I am asking I want to donate to your awsome training
Do you always get geldings?
What would you recommend for someone who wants to become a horse trainer but doesn't have experience or horses
Volunteer at a local boarding barn!
An after thought.... some horses react better to a more definite feel of touch ....maybe a stiffer bristled brush would give him a better "contact" feel.....with a more definite stronger brushing action. Also hoping that if there is an ulcer that the meds will help ease his actions...
Donna C. We have a horse at the barn I ride at who was just awful to anyone who would brush using the soft brush. I noticed he was usually fine with a currycomb, so I did a test the first time I groomed him, and tried different pressures with the soft brush.... it was very clear that he needed a “deep touch” and hated light brushing. So he was always relaxed when I’d brush him because I recognized this and would consciously brush him deep...(I used a slightly damp rag for surface dust)
WELL.... about three months after I figured out his brushing issue, he colicked badly...the longest colic I had ever experienced, his symptoms contained for at least a week .yes a vet saw him many times, and in the course of treatment they diagnosed ulcers(no big surprise!).
Thankfully he recovered, his owners have put him on an ulcer protocol AND NOW he is much less grumpy, accepts light touch and is a much softer more balanced ride. He was TELLING everyone that his tummy hurt, but sometimes humans simply can’t interpret horse behavior as well as we’d like.
I’ve personally experienced emotional upset that was connected to digestive issues... one week many years ago I was feeling angry at the drop of a hat- even I couldn’t explain what was making me so edgy.... until one night I woke up screaming, while my stomach felt as though I had shards of glass inside. Turns out that my grump was the prelude to a ruptured appendix! (Almost died, many weeks in hospital etc. ok now, some lingering issues but I’m alive) with this, I might be a bit extra on this subject, but when is see odd/aggression/moody behaviors, one of the first things that pops into my mind is “tummy troubles”
@@FluxyMiniscus I have not had horses for many years.....and love learning in today's horse world. They have learned so much in every aspect....in my day we never even considered ulcers to be an issue. It could very well make a horse over react when in pain. So maybe there will be a huge improvement in the works for Brutus. Hope so......his dominate personality may improve.
One of the reasons that wild horses, at least stallions are so sensitive about their legs is when two stallions get together n fight. When they start to fight you will notice that they will try to grab n bite at the elbow n legs of each other trying to cripple their opponent. As far as the sensitive spot goes. That could b a big bruise that hasn’t healed completely, from him getting kicked by another horse, while at the BLM. I could tell from day one that he was going to try to attack you. I am surprised that he waited so long about it. It usually takes about 8 to 12 months after they are gelded to get the stallion aggression out of him, so beware. Proud of you for not letting him get away with it. You nipped it in the bud, for now. Great job, but b careful.
ahh i knew he had some aggression issues in him! i could tell from the start, you did wonderfully handling him and he's really coming along :)
He doesn't have aggression issues. He is just a horse. And a male one, probably only recently gelded that had plenty of fighting practice with his male buddies, making himself ready to eventually fight to take over a herd. So he is just trying a strategy he has experience with. Mares are more subtle, but stallions all have a certain amount of open aggression potential. And if you don't shut that down immediately, you are having a problem. That's the reason why most people shouldn't own one.
@@petrairene plus you watch she says he uld have ulcers. I wouldn't exactly call responding to pain "aggression". Just a pain response, and she taught him that he can't respond in that way
@@petrairene of course, thats kind of what i meant. by aggression issues i didn't necessarily mean he had an ongoing problem with aggression, i just knew that it was going to be a little problem as i saw he was very fighty rather than flighty. yes he is trying a new strategy, and yes he obviously was gelded. i know that. i'm not sure what point you were trying to prove, if any, but she did exactly that anyway and shut him down. also, just because some stallions can have potential aggression, doesn't mean people shouldn't own one..?
Nice!
So did you throw the brush to hit him and do you worry running him in such a small area?
She threw the brush to give him a tap on the butt to get him moving, and small pens like this are necessary for this kind of training to stay close and maintain control
@@acaciarogersart she threw the brush because she was mad at the horse. At least be honest.
@@sandieadams9529 No it was to get him out of her space to regain respect. At least be knowledgeable. Sometimes to train an animal you need to speak in a language they understand. When horses want to tell each other they screwed up or need to move they usually kick or bite each other. Something they can feel thats unpleasant but doesnt cause injury. Just like she did.
@@sandieadams9529 For crying out loud. It was a correction.
It appears as if he's trying really hard to keep his right eye on you. I'm only at minute 50 at this point...now I'm at the start of your second session and it really does appear that he's more comfortable with you on his right.
I feel like with proper training and development he’d be an amazing beginner horse because he’s so tolerant
Wooohooo! I’m early!
Yes I know how you have to read a horses signs. I misread a sign in January of this year and I ended up with 19 stitches in my face because to horse bit me. Be careful
What was the sign you missed?
wow you can really see the sweat saturate his fur in this lighting.
So snorty!! Lol. An interesting horse.... Be very careful, he seems more unpredictable than most. It's like he's so undecided. Heaps of potential to be a very handsome, athletic horse tho, and a good size too! Enjoy the full length of your vids.
Braver than I my girl lol if I may make a suggestion for your videos. I notice you don't take your eyes off of the horse for long and are talking back and forth towards the camera, why not a Mic? so that you could completely focus on the horse instead of looking back and forth. When you're in that pen facing the back the volume isn't very good and is your handsome husband standing with you? If he could zoom in when you're on the back side would be wonderful!!! I just don't want to miss a single part of your videos!!! Great job so far!!!
My camera does not accept a microphone but I am looking to update cameras soon. Also no most of the time I am by myself so no one to zoom in for me
@@CamillesMustangs well crap lol
his snorting and stamping are warnings. This guy was a stallion for more then a minute and he has a little attitude towards you.
I would suggest a helmet and maybe even a x country vest. It’s professional and if you’re putting videos like this out there, it can influence others. Consider subscribing to Elisa Wallace’s channel. Don’t get me wrong, you seem like you have things under control, just a suggestion
Elisa Wallace is amazing!
Does he seem a little off in his hind or is that just me...?
To me he has a build up in his sheath has ya can hear it,it sounds like a gulping sound when in trot
It is very painful it’s like a build up of pebbles in the sheath.
Shoul Ahad yes I heard that as well. But his trippiness in his back end makes me wonder if he’s sound. It’s hard to tell in such a small space, but I’m sure she’ll figure it out!
Rachael Bedell it maybe the sheath tbh,has it causes pain,but yes he maybe a little lame,but it could come across that way if he needs his bits cleaning😂it’s awful to do and it stinks 🤢🤮😂😂
Cajun? Hard to tell, lol
I think you just answered my question
How about “treats”is it good idea, to get him associated with food every you start with him/her?
I try to avoid that. Especially for a horse that has a history of being a bit pushy or aggressive
Well handled. Roulette (s.vf) presented as more aggressive than this guy, imho.
I’ve never been this early.....
I wish these were voiceover. You have so much competing background noise.
but wait throwing a brush may have bounced off of him doesnt mean it didnt hurt em
He bit her if she let that slide then he would’ve have learned that it’s ok to bite people and the behavior would have gotten worse, if My horse tried to bite me she’d get popped her on the nose😂
Haha I love these horses (Rick too ofc) the old drag car/hot rod (Tanner) vs the jalopy/ Volkswagen (Buddy)
Before people rip me to shreads I wanted to say usually love your training, but when he went to nip at you and you yelled he instantly took off. Throwing the brush at him must have been a knee jerk reaction as the saying goes. I know it didn't hurt him,, but fear is easily put right back into the horses.. I know when training the horses I have worked with something like throwing the brush can then take time for the horse to adjust and trust again, instead of just saying "hey" like you did which is much better. Especially with very wild horses. But overall, you are doing great! Ever thought of rescuing from kill pens??
I love your mustang videos but now I am thoroughly confused. My understanding is that the BLM will pay 1,000$ to people to adopt wild mustangs yet you are in videos bidding on horses and for example you won Jude for 105$. Then you competed in the wild mustang event and afterward Jude went off to a new owner. I know that after these events the horses are auctioned to the highest bidder and the trainer has a right to bid just like everyone else. What I don't understand is why you have to bid for the horse and after the horse is auctioned off do you as the initial adopter and trainer receive your 105$ back?
Hey, horses do aggression on each other. It's only natural that they also try to do it on humans if we start to interact with them.
yes, thats why she corrected it and said that was unacceptable with her and humans in general.
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lol you turd
@@CamillesMustangs i commented before the video was even up, im a hacker
ellen m no you’re just my unpaid video reviewer lol
Lol
I don't doubt this woman's ability to train horses. She has shown she is a decent horsewoman however, i think she would be more successful if she wasn't so aggressive and loud or obnoxious around them. They are prey animals.
The best horse trainers are the quiet and gentle soft voiced ones. They observe the horse. She does not do that. She has a very dominate intimidating aura and most like makes these herd animals reactive. So her ability definitely isn't natural.
Some people do have anatrial ability to calm the horse. Usually these people are introverted and gentle in spirit.
Also one thing i always found strange are people usually women who talk to these animals like they're infants. A soft one tone voice shouid be used always. Not a high pitched obnoxious voice.
This may be the reason usually men are better working with these animals.
Pressure relase, gentle hands and voice around a recently gelded stallion.
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Why didn't you address the pinned ears, stamped foot and ringing tail that started well before 15:00 (where I finally checked the time) - all aggression signs that happened much earlier before he nipped? You said it was a video about dealing with aggression but you didn't respond to those. I felt that you were wrong to keep letting these slide by. I do have to applaud you for the effort you put into these horses, undoubtedly saving a horse from the meat market with each one you find a new home for through training them. I do think you push every lesson I've watch way too long and always pressing them just a bit too far, asking them to accept one more thing. Brutus here, also looks stiff through his poll, upper neck region, like he is painful through the first 3 vertebra.
Those aggressive behaviors your asking about could be flies bothering him....
I’m glad you can diagnose a horse through a RUclips video, you must be a very talented mustang trainer. The stomping and tail swatting you are referring to is due to blare amount of flies on him. He exhibits those behaviors even when I am not in the pen with him
@@CamillesMustangsthat's why I didn't get a time for when it started. I'm watching a video that isn't right on the spot to see if it is flies or not. But you watch the video yourself - it is always the foot nearest to you with pinned ears and a wrung-tail swish. Once, maybe twice, I would have let it go as flies. And you have no idea who you are addressing in these comments and your reply is rather rude. I don't have much experience training mustangs, only having had two off the range and the offspring of one of those in my history. Those aggressive behaviour are not limited to mustangs - all equines exhibit aggression through those behaviour - maybe 'my' mustangs were special and 'learned' those behaviours from my other horses?
@@georgegoertzen4723 No guy, YOU are being rude. She's not the only one sick of backseat riders and natural horsemanship gurus that think their way is the only way and everyone else is wrong. If you don't tolerate tail swishes or ear movement from your horses, they're probably terrified to move in your presence. Shutting down communication does not change their attitude. And for fucks sake, we all know horses stomp at flies more than they stomp at humans. Why jump to the least likely conclusion? Why punish a horse for swishing at a fly? They don't learn anything but that humans are unpredictable bullies and they need to hold their breath in your presence. That's not leadership. 🙄👎
George Goertzen Not sure what you are seeing because I can see him twitch his skin from a fly every time before he stomps. It looks pretty obvious to me. Don’t get me wrong, he does look agitated with her, but the stomping and swishing is clearly flies.
I want to cut that one tree down. The other one, too. Give you guys more room. ❤️