Best Chicken On Youtube? We'll See About That!

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  • Опубликовано: 4 ноя 2024

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  • @thatdudecancook
    @thatdudecancook  Год назад +121

    I've been pleasantly surprised by a lot of these viral RUclips chicken recipes but this one is a MUST TRY, If you don't want to debone chicken thighs I see no problem just buying them without, although you are getting bonus points from me if you choose to debone yourself....HAPPY COOKING!!

    • @sallyjohnson2633
      @sallyjohnson2633 Год назад +4

      As an ardent follower of your channel, I would like to request you do some whole meals with tips on prep and timing so it can all be served hot on warmed plates. Healthy choices would be a bonus but not necessary.

    • @happymethehappyone8300
      @happymethehappyone8300 Год назад +2

      Love watching your videos..I started cooking when I was 6 years old,, Little did I know at that time,, But it's a good thing I did because I would end up raising myself from 9 years old on..I am now 62 years old..Raising myself from such an early age,, I had to learn to make something out of nothing & be a very good shopper,, These attributes would end up being very important to making me a good cook..I have to say though that many of these "Viral" And/Or "New" recipes make me chuckle,, Because so many of them I've been making for 20-30+ years (Or something extremely similar) I know with your many years of cooking experience,, That you are more than aware that many "New" dishes are actually just re-boots/tweaked dishes of the past..May life always find you well and smiling my cooking/food lovin' friend.

    • @Radii_DC
      @Radii_DC Год назад +2

      I cant cook at all and dont know shiet about what is actually talked about in this channel, I just like the "now lets go" part of the videos, its my favourite... It inspires me to just go and do it, whatever it is.

    • @happymethehappyone8300
      @happymethehappyone8300 Год назад +5

      @Radii_DC Even if you can't cook at the moment,, I would encourage you to try,, Just start off with easier dishes & work your way up from there. You will find it to be very gratifying & enjoy the prideful feeling of knowing you cooked it yourself.

    • @thatpointinlife
      @thatpointinlife Год назад +1

      Hey Sonny! Loved the fridge scene! 😂
      What brand is that boning knife with the red kirinite(?) handle? It's purdy!

  • @yhavin
    @yhavin Год назад +624

    I make this 43 times a week, my family can't get enough of it!

    • @nottspig
      @nottspig Год назад +13

      😂

    • @christianoliver3572
      @christianoliver3572 Год назад +33

      Didn't your mama teach you that polygamy is wrong??

    • @mtnman8783
      @mtnman8783 Год назад +6

      I rarely give out likes but you earned one

    • @skullies3580
      @skullies3580 Год назад +10

      pls tell me it's a typo and it's actually 4-3 times a week. if not you got a problem man

    • @johannasweet1120
      @johannasweet1120 Год назад +7

      How many meals do you people eat every day???

  • @Breakfool
    @Breakfool Год назад +220

    That’s definitely the first fridge attack that almost made me spit out my drink hahaha

  • @user-ki3dj9pu9y
    @user-ki3dj9pu9y Год назад +20

    I've been cooking professionally for over 20 years. You sir, have one of the BEST cooking channels I have ever seen, and are an excellent teacher. Subd

  • @cameronbird8327
    @cameronbird8327 Год назад +29

    What i love most about this series is how you blind react, but also how you follow the recipe as best as you can and while you do stuff, you give the tips on how you’d do stuff; rather than just do it

  • @TwoScoopsXD
    @TwoScoopsXD Год назад +25

    Really enjoy this series from beginning to end. Each video I sit and watch it fully

  • @AndyHTu
    @AndyHTu Год назад +50

    This is pretty much a recipe I've grown up cooking in a Vietnamese family. I prefer the ones we make at home though.
    Marinating nit for a few hours and adding mushroom seasoning makes it even better. You can use the extra sauce to caramelize it.

    • @utenalarosa
      @utenalarosa Год назад

      is this ga roti?

    • @AndyHTu
      @AndyHTu Год назад +1

      I've never heard that word so not sure. I googled it and it does look like it.@@utenalarosa

  • @secretforreddit
    @secretforreddit Год назад +9

    I love this series so much! Thanks for making another episode!

  • @jessicabaxter4868
    @jessicabaxter4868 Год назад +36

    Okay, that fridge attach was mike-drop worthy, hats off to you and Marcus! 😆

  • @markstephenson6952
    @markstephenson6952 Год назад +24

    I just made this and changed a couple of things. First, I mixed soy sauce, brown sugar, 2 tbl. lime juice, and black pepper. Then I added the thighs, coated thoroughly, and let them sit while I got everything else set up. Cooked the chicken on med-high with Avocado oil, maybe 4 minutes on each side (125 deg.) and then set aside. I turned them several times. Poured off most of the oil and I took Sonny's suggestion about the sauce. Heat on med and added 2 tbl. butter, 2 tbl. minced garlic, 1 tbl. minced lemongrass. When the butter melted, stirred 30-40 seconds until consistent and put the soy sauce mix in. Mixed until consistent and then added the chicken back in. Flipped the chicken to coat it well and covered. Low heat for 4 minutes, remove lid, turn and coat chicken again. I simmered the chicken another 4-5 minutes and the sauce was getting thick. Put the chicken on a plate, sliced into 1/3" strips and poured the sauce on top.
    This is WONDERFUL chicken. If I paid for this in any restaurant I'd be thrilled. Very easy and very, very good :)

  • @kyleclerc8099
    @kyleclerc8099 Год назад +13

    I'm glad that Marcus finally got to show that fridge the business.

  • @shaunrattray6702
    @shaunrattray6702 Год назад +7

    As a master chair maker, from a long line of master chair makers, you nailed that analogy.

  • @Phoenix-369
    @Phoenix-369 Год назад +13

    That base will always be a banger! It's similar to korean barbecue minus the lime juice and lemongrass. Ginger is a must yessss and I might add some gochujang for that spicy kick. Yummm thanks for sharing your pro tips!

  • @Cyber11111
    @Cyber11111 11 месяцев назад +5

    This dish has a name....it's called Mang Inasal Chicken (a Filipino rendition of Thai lemongrass grilled chicken called Gai Yang) ...now that you know, look for all other recipes of Mang Inasal Chicken online, try the highly rated ones and see which recipe is the best! It tastes really good drizzled with garlic chili oil just after cooking, and dipped in lime-soy sauce.

  • @chrisvicera6696
    @chrisvicera6696 Год назад +7

    Oh and if you want to simulate the taste of calamansi. Get the juice 2 limes and add the juice of a quarter orange. It should be quite similar in cooking, not so much raw

  • @james.randorff
    @james.randorff Год назад +28

    Hi, Sonny! Calamansi is pronounced kah-lah-mahn-SEE (all “a” vowels pronounced like in the word “La”, and a strong short accent on the last syllable)
    Calamansi are available in the produce section of pretty much any Asian market. Calamansi is more closely related to the mandarin and kumquat than the lime. If you get a chance, get some calamansi and then make the same dish, subbing out lime for calamansi in one and using calamansi in the other. The flavor difference is significant.
    Source: I have been married to a wonderful Filipina for the past 17 years.

    • @Chronis67
      @Chronis67 Год назад +6

      As a huge calamansi fan, I have to say that I have never seen the fruits available in any markets, Asian or otherwise. This might be a regional thing. I'm in New York. Every once in a while, I'll find a bottle of juice extract though.
      But I did manage to get 2 small calamansi trees this year!

    • @mark-angelofamularcano237
      @mark-angelofamularcano237 Год назад +6

      @@Chronis67my mom has a coworker that grows calamansi in their backyard. We live near the Bay Area

  • @REALCaptainAmerican
    @REALCaptainAmerican Год назад +6

    not having the best day but this video cheered me up! also thank you for reviewing and explaining how the recipe works.

  • @purradin
    @purradin Год назад +2

    knowledge, humor, personality, looks, and sick fighting moves? You are the whole package, sir.

  • @FirstLast-vy6rn
    @FirstLast-vy6rn Год назад +8

    You guys must have so much fun. This one looks great!

  • @mf-ti5fd
    @mf-ti5fd 11 месяцев назад +1

    I've been watching your channel for several years and this is one of my favourite fridge attacks :D

  • @sherrihurst3142
    @sherrihurst3142 Год назад +3

    That looked great! Plus, I've always loved Sonny's antics but the addition of Marcus sends it over the top 😁

  • @dommieya8007
    @dommieya8007 Год назад +3

    After watching this, I went out and bought some lemongrass (only ingredient I didn’t have) and made this last night. I also made a side of rice. It was very easy and very good. Thanks!

    • @rycolligan
      @rycolligan 10 месяцев назад

      Out of curiosity: did you finely chop the lemongrass like in the recipe, or did you use one large bruised leaf like Sonny suggests?

    • @dommieya8007
      @dommieya8007 10 месяцев назад

      I followed the recipe and finely chopped it, but next time I would prefer just to use one large leaf and not chop it up

  • @zeveris913
    @zeveris913 Год назад +1

    Your episodes just keep getting better!

  • @Scott_C
    @Scott_C Год назад +3

    I made this with lemons since i didn't have limes and i used breast meat not dark meat. It was fantastic!

  • @jonesy128
    @jonesy128 Год назад +1

    Absolutely looks delicious!! I do a chicken and potatoes casarole. Brown my chicken cut red potatoes butter the dish lay the potatoes in then add salt black pepper and garlic powder then a 1/4 cup chicken broth cover with foil bake 350 until potatoes are done. Absolutely quick and easy and delicious.

  • @Kristie_H
    @Kristie_H Год назад +7

    This looks so good & the fridge attack was hilarious!😂

  • @g4zzauk
    @g4zzauk Год назад +2

    Great video guys, the fridge scene was hilarious!!!

  • @Ambitionmma
    @Ambitionmma 11 месяцев назад

    I love the silly skits you do they are perfect and so funny! It sets your channel apart! One of the best cooking channels out here duhd !

  • @LyleKN
    @LyleKN Год назад +17

    Sonny, I fell in love with your channel when I first found you a couple of months ago and was hooked from "now let's go", and binge watched every single episode. Some several times even. I've also noticed how much you've grown. You keep getting better and better, and the look you now sport fits you to a T! The shaved or close-cut head, the goatee or 5'oclock shadow, such a neat and clean appearance! Bravo to you man. You and Marcus make a complete package and yes, I'm also jealous of his job and of your close friendship. Have to say though, I do miss sergeant Gilbert/Gillpepper, but hey, all things must change. Okay, about this recipe, this sounds a lot like Vietnamese style. My best friend and I go to a Vietnamese/Chinese restaurant every week and the flavor profile sound pretty identical to some of the dishes we order there. The place is a bit of a hole in the wall next to an Asian market, but the food is insanely delicious, very inexpensive and this sounds just like it. I often cook Asian dishes at home and have some lemon grass in the freezer, so this will be a great way to utilize it. Also, I live in Chicago, and I can imagine the lime juice is sufficient, but for those of us who live in areas with Asian markets, you can probably get calamansi. I've seen them here but didn't know what they could be used for. Now I do. Bravo brother, bravo!!! 👏🙂

    • @thatdudecancook
      @thatdudecancook  Год назад +7

      Thanks for the kind words my dude and don't worry Sergeant Gilbert is here to stay, we have big plans for him in the future!

    • @LyleKN
      @LyleKN Год назад +1

      Glad to hear! Patiently waiting for the return of Sergeant Gilbert!@@thatdudecancook

    • @ntsmullen3096
      @ntsmullen3096 Год назад +1

      ​@@thatdudecancookGilbert fridge attack???

  • @jonnydobos
    @jonnydobos Год назад +1

    Highest score and best fridge sequence yet!

  • @danielmckeon2261
    @danielmckeon2261 Год назад +3

    I am 100% going to make this tonight and definitely adding ginger to mine and some rice!

  • @patrickfinnegan5202
    @patrickfinnegan5202 Год назад +2

    Great video thanks for the info! I was just thinking out loud and thought I’d share with you that maybe if you took the lemongrass and brought it closer to a powder and use less of it but to be sure to coat the chicken that maybe you wouldn’t have to worry about the overbearing flavor and still get the better results. Just a thought hope you use it and hope it works.

  • @johnadams1976
    @johnadams1976 Год назад +9

    Don't leave the lemongrass out... if you can't find it, get the version that's mashed in a jar

  • @marcp5099
    @marcp5099 10 месяцев назад

    a life changer for deboning anything me was moving from a boning knife like you are using ( French style i think? )
    i never got on with them
    to a Japanese Deba
    OMG
    makes it so much easier
    But i do count my fingers after each chicken .....

  • @sycofya1677
    @sycofya1677 Год назад +7

    Watching Marcus as a video game character was epic!!! 😂🔥

  • @wade_powell
    @wade_powell Год назад +1

    Love this series and your channel in general.

  • @heinrichagrippa5681
    @heinrichagrippa5681 Год назад +2

    That "de-boning a whole chicken, making a sauce from the bones and roast the whole chicken" sounds appealing. Would you consider making a video on that?

  • @wezz7270
    @wezz7270 Год назад +1

    yo i love this series man these recipes have been slappin
    please keep doing what you doing bro

  • @Packer2401
    @Packer2401 Год назад +1

    Saw this video a couple days ago and tried the recipe tonight. Pretty easy to cook and very tasty!

  • @Merendino666
    @Merendino666 Год назад +1

    Love your channel, dude. Thanks for making these videos.

  • @tony2000and10
    @tony2000and10 Год назад +2

    Yea filipino food ftw. Can't go wrong with soy sauce/calamansi/sugar combo.

  • @redeye1016
    @redeye1016 Год назад

    Hey Sonny - could you do a video on how to make good sauces for meat? I’d like to learn the basics and how to level up

  • @DenisPombriant
    @DenisPombriant 2 дня назад

    sub in grated ginger root for lemongrass.

  • @Lokomotivo
    @Lokomotivo Год назад

    great tips at the end! orange peel sounds great!

  • @foodandsleep2417
    @foodandsleep2417 Год назад +1

    "is someone going to walk under it, like a bridge"
    that had me laughing

  • @paulconnolly5276
    @paulconnolly5276 4 месяца назад

    LIVED ON GUAM FOR 17 YEARS AND HAD 17 CALAMANSI TREES. I SERIOUSLY MISSED THEM. THE SMELL FROM THE FLOWERS THEY PRODUCE BEFORE THE FRUIT IS AN ACT OF GOD.

  • @Charismafire
    @Charismafire 11 месяцев назад

    I had an old refrigerator sitting on my deck for about a month. I had a lot of fun throwing hatchets at it. You should try it!

  • @KyokoUltimate
    @KyokoUltimate Год назад

    Hi Filipino here. Your suggestion for additional ingredients is actually what makes up the core ingredients of adobo.

  • @ask230
    @ask230 Год назад +1

    8:43 Marcus "works hard" and "earns his keep"! But does he work hard enough to offset those cals?? By the looks of it, in the face of UNIMAGINABLE hardship, he has overcome all odds and manages to survive this torture 😂

  • @theonlykisboi
    @theonlykisboi Год назад

    I remember seeing Sonny on tiktok once and watched him do his schnitzel recipe (which is phenomenal, who knew soy sauce was so versatile) and that was like 3 years ago now im subscribed and its definitely one of my better subscriptions.

  • @BenjaminEricksen
    @BenjaminEricksen Год назад +2

    The fridge attack is everything 😂😂😂

  • @retrorich6991
    @retrorich6991 Год назад

    This is the best best ending with the PlayStation joystick! Amazingly funny. Love your show from Canada

  • @haribo1905
    @haribo1905 Год назад +2

    hope we get more dessert stuff in this series

  • @AAbstractArtist22
    @AAbstractArtist22 Год назад

    These might be a recipe I will try. Thanks

  • @5dstrix
    @5dstrix Год назад +2

    Best fridge attack ever, lol, and the rest of the video was great too :)

  • @errollleggo447
    @errollleggo447 Год назад +2

    I can taste all those ingredients. Oh my that looks soooo good.

  • @josephvaughan3099
    @josephvaughan3099 Год назад +1

    Hahaha the fridge attack was so funny 🤣 that chicken looked amazing! Thanks 👍😁🇬🇧

  • @triggeredsnowflake2507
    @triggeredsnowflake2507 Год назад +2

    By far, my favorite fridge abuse bit to date. Hilarious

  • @maxtonuponry
    @maxtonuponry Год назад +1

    Deboned, skin-on whole chicken legs are a surprisingly common thing in parts of East Asia, I really wish they made it over here. Deboning them is quite satisfying but it's a lot less fun for the 4th one in a row.

    • @Iconoclast1919
      @Iconoclast1919 11 месяцев назад

      I wonder if there us a reason, texture or fat or whatever, that they use the deboned legs. Like why not just use chicken thighs? I realize that the whole chicken's worth of parts may need to be used by a family, but I wonder why they wouldn't just use them as whole legs in a different dish. Is there something which makes leg meat more suited to the dish?

  • @chrisgeorge84
    @chrisgeorge84 Год назад

    I remember when the fridge was still in the kitchen. The evolution of the beatings is fun.

  • @jorgelozano1295
    @jorgelozano1295 Год назад

    I'm trying this recipe tomorrow.

  • @lincolndacostaeloyjunior9261
    @lincolndacostaeloyjunior9261 Год назад +1

    Damn, your content is getting better each time. Good to know that you’re thriving, Sonny!

  • @larrysowada9905
    @larrysowada9905 Год назад +1

    My opinion on you is that you make cooking videos fun and enjoyable, not like those robots that don't kid around, I've only subscribed for the past couple of months and so far you get a double thumbs up from me and the dish that you made today i will try I'm a dark meat person but have a better half that isn't anyway my question to you is why do you and your partner beat up that refrigerator is it to take out frustration or that you aced the recipe, thanks again for making my day, Larry

  • @lowdownone
    @lowdownone Год назад +1

    Sonny please do that video of you deboning an entire chicken. I really want to see it done correctly so I can see if it is worth it.

  • @matthewhester4897
    @matthewhester4897 Год назад

    90% of the vids I watch are cooking vids - @ThatDudeCanCook are quite possibly the BEST of the BEST you can watch - Dude - keep it up - I'm a huge fan

  • @andreadejarnette6733
    @andreadejarnette6733 Год назад

    The cover of your book looks phenomenal!!!👍👍

  • @Repairguy2
    @Repairguy2 Год назад +1

    What about throwing some steamed rice in the sauce after you cook ?

  • @DavePops1692
    @DavePops1692 Год назад +1

    The lemon grass trick was a nice chef’s tip

  • @Akash-uq8wg
    @Akash-uq8wg Год назад +1

    Good to see Marcus being used properly.

  • @The_Original_Big_Daddy
    @The_Original_Big_Daddy Год назад +5

    The simplicity of this recipe is pretty amazing. I'm going to make this tomorrow night but I'm using bone-in, skin-on thighs. Can't wait to see a 9.6 result!!

    • @Iconoclast1919
      @Iconoclast1919 11 месяцев назад +1

      Did it work out? I'd be afraid that the sauce would be all dried up before the chicken would be cooked all the way through.

    • @The_Original_Big_Daddy
      @The_Original_Big_Daddy 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Iconoclast1919 - Yes, the chicken turned out really great. For the most part I basically followed the recipe exactly, but I used bone-in, skin-on thighs. I'm not a fan of deboning chicken, so I cooked them bone-in (which my family prefers). So yes, I would tell you it's worth the effort, and no the sauce did not overly reduce because part of the time the skillet is covered. P.S., they also make lemongrass in squeeze tubes if you want to be really lazy :)

  • @chefhomeboyardee8
    @chefhomeboyardee8 Год назад +1

    Some pineapple juice and chili flakes might be nice. Also fyi lemongrass freezes pretty well.

  • @Yhoshua_B
    @Yhoshua_B Год назад +3

    "and I saw them flipping and flopping their meat quite a bit... I'm not a huge supporter of that" -Sonny
    love you videos and commentary!

  • @jmmartin7766
    @jmmartin7766 Год назад +1

    I'm jealous of Markus, cause he's the true definition of a Renaissance man... Not only does he get to be the 'videographer/food taster,' he ALSO carved that 'very sturdy looking' chair from that big ol' tree- talk about some 'mad skills!'
    (Bet he's also a nuclear physicist in his spare time, right?)
    😁👍

  • @Thebernster
    @Thebernster Год назад

    Best fridge montage yet.

  • @Smiththebat
    @Smiththebat Год назад +1

    Some of these videos are home cooks sharing weird recipes but this one looks like a professional made it…. Or at least a higher level enthusiast. Right when I saw that chunk of butter go in I knew. And Sonny even said, “..that’s a chef’s amount of butter..”

  • @toddvillano7994
    @toddvillano7994 Год назад

    If you chop the lemon grass fine can you eat it? Also could you BBQ the chicken then cook it in the souce?

  • @00_GoldenEye
    @00_GoldenEye Год назад

    That was the most creative fridge attack ever

  • @SR-no8sr
    @SR-no8sr Год назад

    I buy lemongrace and garlic. paste. Does the job.

  • @briansmith3134
    @briansmith3134 Год назад

    Thanks. Looks goood cant wait to try

  • @Mspurrier88
    @Mspurrier88 7 месяцев назад

    Thanks for introducing me to Trade Coffee!! I agree about Mother Tongue Nebula.

  • @fightingwords8955
    @fightingwords8955 Год назад

    8:48 Markus going for that Jack X-Men look.
    This dish reminds me of the National Dish of the Philippines, chicken adobo. 😋

  • @sandy7938
    @sandy7938 Год назад +1

    Love this series ..Thanks Guys ys are awesome 👍👍👍🙏🏻🍗

  • @spiraljumper74
    @spiraljumper74 Год назад +1

    I’m gonna make these and put them on potato buns with a little butter lettuce, tomato, and mayo.

  • @networkn
    @networkn Год назад

    Awesome. Added to my recipes.

  • @DavidKrauss-x7f
    @DavidKrauss-x7f Год назад

    Dear Dude,
    I’ve watched your videos since the beginning, subscribed early, laughed out loud as you destroyed your fridge, bought your Jerky, came to terms with your haircut and made copious amounts of rosemary salt- I am a fan, so I say this with all dude respect.
    I came here for you and you alone. It was like a club. Just me and you and a bunch of other subscribers. Now there’s a third wheel in……. Marcus. There, I said it. I’m sorry. I know that’s hard to read and comes off as mean but it’s the honest truth. I know he’s your bud and he does a great job and all but I don’t need him in there so much. I find myself skipping over his bits. Sure, at first it was fine having him come out from behind, break that 4th wall and give a thumbs up. I’m not a noob. I know there’s somebody there filming everything - but dude, it’s getting to be the Sonny and Marcus show.
    I’ll still watch of course. You’re awesome. YOU’RE awesome.

  • @skibidi.G
    @skibidi.G Год назад

    Intro music slaps 🎶

  • @ipatates
    @ipatates Год назад

    My favourite fridge attack so far, I love your videos and new ideas of fridge attacks.

  • @robjla1
    @robjla1 Год назад

    Hot peppers and ginger sounds good

  • @RobMyself
    @RobMyself Год назад

    I would have the big crushed chunks of lemon grass in the marinade and after removing chicken from the pan, reduce liquid with that chunk then strain, reduce, take off heat then toss in COLD butter and incorporate. Then pour sauce over chicken

  • @gregsdoodles4547
    @gregsdoodles4547 Год назад

    I'll have to make this tomorrow, but I may have to add ginger

  • @cakesnipher7024
    @cakesnipher7024 Год назад

    The fridge attack part reminded me of Freddy when he put the power glove on in Freddies Dead 😂
    Flawless execution Marcus🤌

  • @andylee63
    @andylee63 10 месяцев назад

    Big fan of dark meat chicken. I might try this with bone-in chicken thighs. Hard to find boneless that still has the skin.

  • @sofakinggood5829
    @sofakinggood5829 Год назад

    Well, looks I'm gonna have to try it.

  • @zeroone871
    @zeroone871 Год назад

    Therapist: Forest Lad Marcus doesn't exist, he can't hurt you.
    Forest Lad Marcus: waves machete around vigorously.

  • @fallingspark
    @fallingspark Год назад

    Yo! The fridge attack… Brilliantly done.

  • @Dan_Boston
    @Dan_Boston Год назад +3

    That is a tasty looking bird 🐦. Shout out to Marcus. Dude certainly earns his keep.

  • @sailorjupiter814
    @sailorjupiter814 Год назад +1

    I will to give this one a try. I love that Marcus is also showing that fridge who's boss. Lol.

  • @billybailey4593
    @billybailey4593 11 месяцев назад

    I have never tried kalamansi myself but I've heard it taste like lemons and looks like limes. So I don't know if limes were the best replacement.

  • @deeannhansen1469
    @deeannhansen1469 Год назад

    Yummy!! I will be making this chicken!!

  • @Darkcruzer23
    @Darkcruzer23 Год назад

    9.6 is crazy for so little seasoning. guess ill have to try it