@@aidanmagill6769 quite simple really: we only need to look at the Arabs today and we can extrapolate that this Arab Prophet looked like a bearded version of what an average Arab man looks like today
There is no "islamic symbol" as the rashidun era only had a plain white flag and a plain black flag. Everything after the rashidun era is dynastic rule, islamicate era, of which, Ottomans were the last, and the crescent and star was their symbol.
Amazing video!..... As a muslim from India where many religions thrive together.... We are really encouraged to gain knowledge of all religion to inculcate respect..... Saying one religious person hates someone from another religion is kinda weird for me since my few best friends are not even Muslims and I love to study all religions and their history....nice work with the video Blue!
It's people like you and I that will change this world my friend. Anyone who has faith yet is open minded are always welcome at my table. Please pass your knowledge, faith, and compassion on to others. I love studying other cultures and their beliefs. I feel that though this will we truly achieve peace and learn to understand each other. Alsalam Ealaykum
This channel has quickly risen to the list of my top favorite youtube channels next to Wisecrack, Strange Mysteries, and Cracked. Love the work on this channel.
Oooo this is super interesting! By the end of watching all of these context-within-context videos I'm pretty sure I'm going to be able to plot the entire history of the Mediterranean better than I can my own country.
I open the Abrahamic Philosophy video, and it tells me I should watch the other two videos for context. Okay. Now I have to watch these other THREE videos for CONTEXT FOR THE CONTEXT! AAAAAAAAHHHHH!
Fun fact: the official teaching of the Church (especially the Catholic tradition) from the days of the early Church, with regard to the treatment of the Jews under Christian rule is known as "Sicut Judaeis Non" (whereas of the Jews you may not) which ordered Christian leaders to respect the dignity and property of Jews and especially strongly prohibited a practice of "forcing" Christianity/Baptism on Jewish persons and families. Not uncommonly, the breach of these commands were penalized by rather severe ecclesial sanctions (normally automatic). Unfortunately, though the Popes and some Bishops repeated the teaching quite a few times, the teaching wasn't always respected and many Jews suffered incredibly inhumane treatment and even massacred to death at the hands of those who ought to have known better if not by their natural disposition (moral law) also by their owed obedience to their spiritual leaders (Bishops/Popes).
Your point is very important. The popes regularly condemned the mass slaughters of Jews that took place in Europe during the crusades, it's just that a lot of people didn't listen.
Adque Yeah accounts of persecution did happen but to me this was a time where there was instability in Europe and the Catholic Church Tried to stop as much persecution as she can but you know human nature gets in the way.
Watched prior videos to refresh myself on that historical context, just as sweet as you said. I always love the funny dialogue between empires and countries, can't wait to see the next videos!
I wish everyone would stop being so nervous about this, Religious history is REALLY COOL. Keep it up Blue; I am really looking forward to the next video
I just want to say I've only recently found your channel and I absolutely love your content! I find history fascinating and your videos are just fab :0
Love the video!! Would adore a little video about the Muslim Africans. Especially Mansa Musa. His older brother basically abdicated so he could lead an expedition to the West. He never returned. The empire was extremely wealthy. Mansa Musa is best known for bankrupting countries during his pilgrimage to Mecca because he was just throwing gold to people in the street during his journey. Such an exciting story!!! Again LOVE the videos!!!
Also the europeans kept practicing slavery until the 19th century, it just fell a bit out of fashion during the middle ages because they had developed serfdom(AKA slavery with extra steps), and this without mentioning the vikings(at least the arabs didn't disembowel thralls as human sacrifices) AND both arab and viking slavers looked like the Red Cross when compared to european slavers.
Man you could at least have mentioned that the reason for the first crusade was the seljuks killing pilgrims and exterminating christian cities but no, they were "tolerant"
Arturo Pastor most the first accounts from the holy land at that time actually at the period of the crusades did not report large scale persecution at that time. The pope(s) just wanted to build up fear of this so he could try to unite the European states and perhaps Eastern Rome as he was losing grip over European leaders of that time.
Hey Blue, love all your work with history and stuff. Hope this comment will lighten up the comment section down here. Regarding to religion, i watched all 3 videos that you talked about earlier in this video then this. Let me just say that , wow. You spoke nothing but truth. Thank you. Though i can tell you aren't going to full on details for the sake of the religion war zone online, but i really appreciate how well spotted your facts are. As always, patiently waiting for your new videos (You and Red's too) :) (btw im muslim, so you saying all this just made me smile from the accuracy ^^)
*Zoroastrians* *Respect* That's, uh, a bit of a stretch even at the beginning. Certainly happened, but it had a nasty tendency to fall away the moment things got unstable, and once you get to the Abbasids the persecution starts to get institutionalized. After their fall, they ceased to be dhimini and were reduced to the status of kafir, same as any polytheist.
This was a bit short (well, it’s not « History Summarized » for nothing !). But a few words about the difference of treatment between Muslims, monotheists non-Muslims and polytheists under the first Caliphs would have been welcomed. The “people of the book” (monotheists) undeniably paid more taxes. This is why the Umayyads didn’t want their conquered populations to convert: they would have collected less money from Muslim populations. In his book “Berbères, mémoires et identité", Gabriel Camps says that the Berbers were still getting extorted like non-muslims by the Umayyads, even though they had converted! Also the conquered Buddhists and Hinduists weren't "monotheistic enough", therefore they had been massacred for a time and got their places of worship destroyed (see the conquest of the Indian subcontinent). Akbar the Great was more open-minded but his more pious descendants destroyed his legacy of tolerance and syncretism.
Thank u very much for taking the background music from age of mythology pc game's theme track. I've passed many many beautiful good afternoons & evenings of my childhood sitting before my dear-old computer that we had at our home. Suddenly hit by some sweet sweet nostalgia ❤️ good feeling memories of childhood. Thanks a lot.
Yrvin the Dark Ages were a myth that arises out of the Enlightenment due to anti catholic and anti conformist philosophers and freethinkers like Voltaire etc. Europe was actually doing a great job really considering a collapse of centralized authority until the Age of Charlemagne
@@obiwankenobi6871 That's true, but we still lost a lot of Classical knowledge that was preserved and built upon by the Islamic world at the time. That's a lot of why the Renaissance even *happened,* and why it was so hyped-up about the classics.
@@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369 That's sorta true, to an extent, but science and art didn't just halt. From Irish literary culture to the marvels of architecture to the (admittedly ill-intended) advancements in metallurgy that made the Industrial Revolution possible, the "Dark Ages" had a lot of light to them. Much was "lost" (or, rather, had moved eastwards) but much was gained too.
Ooooooohhhh, Age of mythology music, nice choice, also good work on the topic, talking religion on the internet is walking on a mine field over an oil deposit over a volcano, so good luck with tha in future episodes
Sugar coating the Islamic conquest, of course. Read "The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise: Muslims, Christians and Jews under Islamic Rule in Medieval Spain", by Dario Fernandez-Morera.
Yea, I don't know why so many RUclipsrs had to constantly point out "and everything went for all Christians and Jews under Muslim rule" That's like saying "everything went well for Jews and Muslims under Christian rule" because Jews and Muslims had also been living under Christian rule for centuries but nobody ever says it.
Me: Clicks on a video about Abrahamic philosophy Man in a video: go and watch 2 previous videos. Me : ok, clicks on this one Man in a video: go and watch 3 previous video. Me: ok down to rabbit hole , here we go
@@sydhenderson6753 brother if thats only how much you valued your religion or belief then pretty sure it aint that engraved in yo heart also pretty sure tax is still better than death cause in those days single hot mothers wasnt a very popular thing 💀🤲 ifykwIm brother Also like didnt christians converted peep of other religion 5-600 years prior to this...pretty sure they didnt let peep live even if they paid higher taxes
I must just give points for using, if I'm not wrong, Age of Mythology bgm (or something that's similar to it). Even if it's not intentional, it's still something that fits really well with the whole theme.
Hi Blue, great video, just a couple of things:: It would've been nice if you spoke more about the yearly Jihads that the Caliphates waged on Byzantine land also, and the conquest of the Iberian peninsula and the acts committed there, if you're gonna talk holy war you gotta mention the reconquista You kept mentioning religious freedom in the caliphate, and I know where you're coming at, you're comparing it to the pogroms against the Jews in Europe, but I wouldn't call the caliphates policy "religious freedom" and more "religious subjugation". The non Muslim subjects were firstly forced to pay a humiliation tax, called the Jizya (en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya), in any case where a Muslim and another person of the book had an altercation the Muslim automatically had favour in the courts. They were, by all reasonable measures, second class citizens It was actually extremely comparable to the Byzantine empire, which forced similar rules on its subjects, especially the Jews Comparing this to Persia or even Greece before the Islamic conquests the differences are stark, where religious freedom and even atheism of a sort were tolerated, the latter still being a punishable offensive in Islamic countries today As I said earlier, great video, just wanted to make it clear that religious freedom probably isn't a great term, maybe religious toleration would've been better
Tom Pearse acts committed there ? Dude it was one hell of a dumb before muslims took it and turned it into a great society in every aspect of civilization
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the tax less "humiliation" and more of a "get out of military" tax? You know, instead of being drafted into the military you pay the tax. Which, at least to me, sounds admiringly reasonable given the time period. Sucks a bit that the division of military or tax is made by religion rather than choice, but personally I'd rather see that my family pays a tax than someone in my family being forced into the military. Then again, I'm Scandinavian and we are generally very tolerant towards taxes.
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@@EzraDair islam destroyed so many cultures and histories. Look at Persia, a succession that prided itself on tolerance, pragmaticism, and egalitarianism, each fluctuatiing but more or less kept its skeletal frame. Then Islam happened, and look at Iran now
Jizia wasn't a humilliation tax by any means. People of other religions could pay the tax instead of being drafted by the military and Muslims were already paying money to the government in the form of Zakat, which was *significantly* higher than the Jizia. The tax was instituted because the state needed funding to protect all the people of different religion within it's boarders. People of other religions had the same protections so they were required to pay a tax as per their duties as citizens. This is the exact same social contract every nations-state engages in today with their citizens. So non-Muslims didn't have to fight in the army, paid lower taxes than the Muslims, enjoyed all the benefits of your average citizen, and the freedoms of instituting their own religious governments within the Muslim boarders. That's a pretty sweet deal the proof the people like living under these arrangements can be found in immigration patterns. Historically religiously persecuted groups like Jews and Unothadox Christians sects consistently left Christian Kingdoms to settle in Muslim land where they remained and prospered for centuries. Not to mention that the ancestors of these religious immigrants still live in these lands today. The only reasons they came was because they were treated better in Muslims lands, much better than in Christians lands. If they were mistreated, they would never have come let alone settled there.
Thanks for the video. Could you possibly share the script? I'd like to send it to an esl student, but the captions are way too fast at her level. Thanks in advance.
Go read the chronicles of John, bishop of Nikiu to get an idea how gruesome and brutal the early Arab conquest were in Egypt you have whole cities beinging put to death even without putting any means of resistance (it kinda reminds of ISIS) but what do you expect it’s the past
😂I am from Egypt and the Arabs, when they conquered Egypt, the Egyptians were Copts and they were insulted to the point that they imprisoned the Christians’ great patriarchs and took the lands of the Copts, but Amr Madban Al-Aas returned the lands to the residents of Egypt and the Christians protected him and never demolished any temple.
@@mohammedhagag8841 I don’t care what they taught you at school but they have been lying to you the sole reason why Egypt is Muslim it’s due to persecution and forced conversion same with many others
Agreed by and large about the toleration under the Ummayads-Abbasids,however by the time of the Turkifications,it had kinda gone out,as while peoples of the book(christians,Jews and Mazdayanis due to the Zend Avesta0 indeed enjoyed these freedoms,others like Hindus and Buddhists in the east and a not incosiderable number of Berber polytheists faced much massacre and forced conversion.General thumb rule,the more further from Egypt and Baghdad you were on either end(Almoravids and Almohads in the west,ghaznavids and Ghurids in the East) the persecutions kept ramping up.
1 Corinthians 1,12 and following; "What I mean is that each one of you says, “I follow Paul,” or “I follow Apollos,” or “I follow Cephas,” or “I follow Christ.”. Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?" It's been an issue since day 1, we knew it was an issue since day 1, and yet we didn't learn our lesson. I count myself lucky that I learned it the easy way, by getting to know people that I can see as true brothers and sisters in Christ while also disagreeing with them on quiet a few theological issues.
Muslims weren't that benevolent as leaders, in fact many Christian cities in Africa decided not to fight them because they had heard the stories of how those who fought against them had seen no mercy, to the point of having all churches ravaged, all men killed and the innocent and non-fighter sold as slaves to set an example. The Muslim conquest followed no traditional rule of war and was very brutal to those who fought against them, even if they surrender after the first skirmish. Muslims rulers did try to be open but that rule usually collapsed when further from the hearts of the Empire.
i call bullshit on that, btw most cristians in africa and asia were happy that they got out of the decomposing corpse that is byzantium with its (often violent) attempts to end the monophysites sect.
The sacking of cities during this period wasn't uncommon by different people all around the world. Siege warfare required large allocations of manpower and resources for period up to years. Non countries wanted to have to commit to sieges, especially when campaigns would require the sieging of multiple cities and strongholds. It was common practice to sack and exhort significant vengeance of populations that resisted so as to scare future targets into not resisting. There was also the difficulty of exerting control on ones armed forces after a lengthy siege when a location was taken by storm. Casualties would be very high and even up to the Napoleonic war it was somewhat normalised for Armies to be given time to sack and loot as a form of reward to the troops involved.
At the end of the video, I was quite offended by the fact you marked Bulgaria as part of the Byzanthine empire, which it was not. Don't take this personally, but I kind of did.
I'm very sorry that you were offended. Several different resources and maps I used marked everything south of the Danube river as part of the byzantine empire in this specific time period (as well as others), and I'm loyal to my sources. Additionally, this entry seems to definitively indicate a Byzantine presence in Bulgaria for a long span of time en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_conquest_of_Bulgaria (Yes, it's wikipedia, but it's quick and to the point)
I am terribly sorry about this, Sir! I am indeed at fault here, as I hastily jumped to conclusions! I got the impression that you were talking about a different time period and my bitterness got the better of me, since it's often the case in historical videos that Bulgaria is not included when it should be. Please, accept my apology, because I truly am sorry!
Haha, no worries. I can sympathize, as the Byzantine empire, in keeping with roman traditions, have wildly changing borders that depend as much on the direction of the wind as it does on political and military factors. And the fact that I didn't put accompanying years & dates in this video is very much my own fault for the confusion. Most empires have the courtesy to expand and shrink in predictable patterns, but the Byzantine empire keeps shifting every one of its borders in every conceivable direction for its entire history.
omg plz post the crusades this week... i hav crusades for my annual history exam AND I CANT CONCENTRATE ON IT CUZ MY HISTORY TEACHER IS JUST FRIKKIN BORING AND STRICT! I learn nothing from her..... i wish u guys wud be my history teachers i swear >O
It’s a bit misleading to say that they all got along when the Berbers were genocided and forced to fight in armies when they refused to convert. Entire coasts don’t just change religion because they’re living in a bastion of tolerance
They weren't tolerant of pagans. On the other hand Zoroastrianism was monotheistic (unless you consider Ahriman to be a god). Later they found a reason to fudge Hinduism into monotheism since everything is aspects of Brahman. Also there is this thing about peoples of the Book, which is the Old Testament for Jews, Old and New Testaments for Christians, the Koran for Muslims, the Avesta for Zoroastrians and a bunch of stuff for Hindus.
Why do people get butthurt over facts. He isn't defending Islam or any religion guys. He is being honest. Maybe you should stop believing in your propaganda history and be open to facts. All people have some propaganda in their history, you should dig deeper. Peace
Zoroastrianism. Where is it? One of the largest religions in the entire world went from being exactly that to be all but dead. He is not being honest and Islam was not tolerant, it was intolerant. When Muslims conquered you and you were not Muslim you either died, fled or paid a protection tax so you would be allowed to practice your faith without the risk of being beheaded. Didn't stop the Mameluks or Ottomans from enslaving Christians to be soldiers in their armies, or stop them from massacring Jews and just generally oppressing Zoroastrians and Hindu's. I am VERY well versed in ISLAMIC history, and they revel in the slaughter of infidels and the establishment of great Caliphates and in general promote conquering their non-Islamic neighbours.
Jorge Justin paganism. where is it? shamanism, tengriism, the roman pantheon, where are they? generally the same place as zoroastrianism, relegated to obscurity by similar forces, typically non-violent conversion to curry political favor, tax exemptions, and favorable trade. In Persia people were converted in much the same way Northern Europe was by Christians
I think a few annotations as well as an outline of the history of the caliphates (basically just dates, territory and some of the most important events) would improve this video - I just get a feeling that it contains too much history in too little time.
For France Germany and England Muslim conquer may have not been something so concerning but for Eastern countries it sure was. The Turkish army was huge and took you stuff woman and kids on their way back. Not so fun times. Also churches where destroyed so dunno bout religious tolerance you are talking about.
Its okay bud, the internet is a safe place where adults can faithfully converse and discuss difficult topics without fear of reprisal, bigotry, or blind hate. See? Safe.
Sometimes I feel you’re a little bit bias, christians under Islamic rules still had to pay A tax just to believe in their faith, and Iberia for example you were not allowed to even talk about your religion, whether or not it was with the intention of converting someone or educating them, I understand the same thing was done in Europe to Muslims, in the end these are both religious violence caused by pretty much the same group, but we need to see one action of two groups as heinous
So this should really be called Christian and Muslim conquest. I know of Christian and muslim rather... bloody, history but the only thing I cannot seem to find is any "dirt" so to say about the Jews, Judaism seems to been the victims for a long time but I find it hard to believe that they where pure paragons throughout history. That just seem...inhuman to be honest. Anyone actually knows anything about this and if they where Saints throughout history, was it because they never seemed to get a strong foothold like Christianity and the Muslims?
In his crusades videos he's says the reason why he doesn't like the crusades is because there was 9 of them, and almost all of them failed miserably, not because they were Christian.
Kinda curious, in the Crusades video will the Northern Crusades against the pagan Prussians & Lithuanians get at least a passing mention? They're pretty overlooked outside Eastern Europe, despite being a key factor in the history of that region.
Whenever one looks at the similar historical stuff the the Christians and Muslim did the Muslims tended to be the more chill. They accepted Jews, they kept all writing available, they accepted others having different faiths, etc...
Islam is nice and easy, so long as they have the authority, and it was the peak of their powers. Their intelectual and cultural boom started to drop massively with Mongol expansions and civil wars
i find using a green M with the star and crescent symbol to represent Mohammed an amusing way to get around the whole "no showing the Prophet" thing.
Yeah it’s just a face thing really
@@zazzyboy8592 uP
How do you know that's not what he looked like?
@@aidanmagill6769 quite simple really: we only need to look at the Arabs today and we can extrapolate that this Arab Prophet looked like a bearded version of what an average Arab man looks like today
There is no "islamic symbol" as the rashidun era only had a plain white flag and a plain black flag. Everything after the rashidun era is dynastic rule, islamicate era, of which, Ottomans were the last, and the crescent and star was their symbol.
5:28 "it's a bird! It's a plane! It's the Seljuk Turks!" And no, you *cannot* make a religion out of this
*LMAO*
"AAH" said the byzantine empire, "we need help!" They need help so they called the pope.
So, they called the pope,
And came Europe
To the east and messed everything forever 🙂
@@Shahi_lancer Hey but atleast the Veniceins got some good trade deal!!
You can make a religion out of this!
Nika niiiiiice
And maybe conquer the world as well
Nika needs more fish
BILL WURTS
@@tart-miano *_~how 'bout I dooooo anyway...~_*
Amazing video!..... As a muslim from India where many religions thrive together.... We are really encouraged to gain knowledge of all religion to inculcate respect..... Saying one religious person hates someone from another religion is kinda weird for me since my few best friends are not even Muslims and I love to study all religions and their history....nice work with the video Blue!
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Beauty of our land... Jai Hind.
It's people like you and I that will change this world my friend. Anyone who has faith yet is open minded are always welcome at my table. Please pass your knowledge, faith, and compassion on to others. I love studying other cultures and their beliefs. I feel that though this will we truly achieve peace and learn to understand each other.
Alsalam Ealaykum
many religions thrive huh? can you hook me up with a forged indian pasport I need to get out of isreal
Weren't there violent purges of Muslims in India like 60 years ago?
This channel has quickly risen to the list of my top favorite youtube channels next to Wisecrack, Strange Mysteries, and Cracked. Love the work on this channel.
Getting hyped for the crusades!!!! Wait that sounds really bad.
DEUS VULT! i mean! Yeah! Crusade Hype! ;D
DEUS VULT
@Kaiser Franz von Lappen der 2. Agree
Kaiser Franz von Lappen der 2. Christians didn’t have problem with it up until Seljuks
I like how everyone is so chill in this comments section! :)
Well, 80% of us are :)
Which is better than I anticipated, so yeah, go us!
I like how this happens a lot :)
Because they are educated people that are trying to get more information i guess
The Umadbro Caliphate
that's my kind of Caliphate
Sadly destroyed by the holy gitrekt kingdom
@@MrGamer-xd1pf then came the Abbadassid Caliphate
@@pongers5895 which was conquered by the Homobid caliphate
@@MrGamer-xd1pf then came the Seljuk Turks
be careful when talking about religion on the internet
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Be more careful talking about Islam. That's a mess just waiting to explode.
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idk I think he was careful he only talked about historical events, no opinions
you still alive... after this topic... good on you
Yea
"Alexander the Swell"
I laughed harder and longer at that than I should've
Timon Rein more like Alexander the SWOLE AMIRITE KIDS?!?!?!?!?!?!
Alexander the greatest
Alexander the Good I guess
Oooo this is super interesting! By the end of watching all of these context-within-context videos I'm pretty sure I'm going to be able to plot the entire history of the Mediterranean better than I can my own country.
I open the Abrahamic Philosophy video, and it tells me I should watch the other two videos for context. Okay. Now I have to watch these other THREE videos for CONTEXT FOR THE CONTEXT! AAAAAAAAHHHHH!
IT NEVER ENDS
OSP Blue IT'S CONTEXT ALL THE WAY DOWN.
@@skyleryarroll2369 That's actually a really good description of what History is...
😂😂😂😂
Fun fact: the official teaching of the Church (especially the Catholic tradition) from the days of the early Church, with regard to the treatment of the Jews under Christian rule is known as "Sicut Judaeis Non" (whereas of the Jews you may not) which ordered Christian leaders to respect the dignity and property of Jews and especially strongly prohibited a practice of "forcing" Christianity/Baptism on Jewish persons and families. Not uncommonly, the breach of these commands were penalized by rather severe ecclesial sanctions (normally automatic).
Unfortunately, though the Popes and some Bishops repeated the teaching quite a few times, the teaching wasn't always respected and many Jews suffered incredibly inhumane treatment and even massacred to death at the hands of those who ought to have known better if not by their natural disposition (moral law) also by their owed obedience to their spiritual leaders (Bishops/Popes).
Your point is very important. The popes regularly condemned the mass slaughters of Jews that took place in Europe during the crusades, it's just that a lot of people didn't listen.
Adque Yeah accounts of persecution did happen but to me this was a time where there was instability in Europe and the Catholic Church Tried to stop as much persecution as she can but you know human nature gets in the way.
Although the church also did a lot of bad things to the Jews as well, it wasn't just a one sided view point that never changed over time.
You're right but atleasts its not as bad as islamic rule
@@MrGamer-xd1pf i like Islamic rule
6:00 France: FAFF. Italy: More FAFF. Germany: Das FAFF. Brilliant :)
Watched prior videos to refresh myself on that historical context, just as sweet as you said. I always love the funny dialogue between empires and countries, can't wait to see the next videos!
I wish everyone would stop being so nervous about this, Religious history is REALLY COOL. Keep it up Blue; I am really looking forward to the next video
I just want to say I've only recently found your channel and I absolutely love your content! I find history fascinating and your videos are just fab :0
Love the video!! Would adore a little video about the Muslim Africans. Especially Mansa Musa. His older brother basically abdicated so he could lead an expedition to the West. He never returned. The empire was extremely wealthy. Mansa Musa is best known for bankrupting countries during his pilgrimage to Mecca because he was just throwing gold to people in the street during his journey. Such an exciting story!!!
Again LOVE the videos!!!
3:45 except all the slavery of Europeans and Africans by the Arabs...
except that slavery was a continous thing before and after the caliphate so don't make it look like the racist transatlantic slavetrade
Also the europeans kept practicing slavery until the 19th century, it just fell a bit out of fashion during the middle ages because they had developed serfdom(AKA slavery with extra steps), and this without mentioning the vikings(at least the arabs didn't disembowel thralls as human sacrifices) AND both arab and viking slavers looked like the Red Cross when compared to european slavers.
@@HerrMasterLizard wow, the Vikings doing human sacrificess by using their slaves? I'd deffinietly searched it up.
I hear that Age of Mythology music...
Man you could at least have mentioned that the reason for the first crusade was the seljuks killing pilgrims and exterminating christian cities but no, they were "tolerant"
Arturo Pastor most the first accounts from the holy land at that time actually at the period of the crusades did not report large scale persecution at that time. The pope(s) just wanted to build up fear of this so he could try to unite the European states and perhaps Eastern Rome as he was losing grip over European leaders of that time.
Arturo Pastor Yh and Seljuks were basically mongols
@@dickvanhorneater405 yeah basic horse lord nomad raider stuff,
Hey Blue, love all your work with history and stuff. Hope this comment will lighten up the comment section down here. Regarding to religion, i watched all 3 videos that you talked about earlier in this video then this. Let me just say that , wow. You spoke nothing but truth. Thank you. Though i can tell you aren't going to full on details for the sake of the religion war zone online, but i really appreciate how well spotted your facts are. As always, patiently waiting for your new videos (You and Red's too) :)
(btw im muslim, so you saying all this just made me smile from the accuracy ^^)
Oh thank you thank you thank you thank you! This is what we’re covering in AP world right now and I needed the extra help
*Zoroastrians*
*Respect*
That's, uh, a bit of a stretch even at the beginning. Certainly happened, but it had a nasty tendency to fall away the moment things got unstable, and once you get to the Abbasids the persecution starts to get institutionalized. After their fall, they ceased to be dhimini and were reduced to the status of kafir, same as any polytheist.
This was a bit short (well, it’s not « History Summarized » for nothing !). But a few words about the difference of treatment between Muslims, monotheists non-Muslims and polytheists under the first Caliphs would have been welcomed.
The “people of the book” (monotheists) undeniably paid more taxes. This is why the Umayyads didn’t want their conquered populations to convert: they would have collected less money from Muslim populations. In his book “Berbères, mémoires et identité", Gabriel Camps says that the Berbers were still getting extorted like non-muslims by the Umayyads, even though they had converted!
Also the conquered Buddhists and Hinduists weren't "monotheistic enough", therefore they had been massacred for a time and got their places of worship destroyed (see the conquest of the Indian subcontinent). Akbar the Great was more open-minded but his more pious descendants destroyed his legacy of tolerance and syncretism.
Thank u very much for taking the background music from age of mythology pc game's theme track. I've passed many many beautiful good afternoons & evenings of my childhood sitting before my dear-old computer that we had at our home. Suddenly hit by some sweet sweet nostalgia ❤️ good feeling memories of childhood. Thanks a lot.
I will enjoy in the sweet delectable historical context, thank you.
Not to forget about the caliphate bringing medicine, maths as astronomy, basically science back to the dark ages of Europe :>
Yrvin the Dark Ages were a myth that arises out of the Enlightenment due to anti catholic and anti conformist philosophers and freethinkers like Voltaire etc. Europe was actually doing a great job really considering a collapse of centralized authority until the Age of Charlemagne
@@obiwankenobi6871 That's true, but we still lost a lot of Classical knowledge that was preserved and built upon by the Islamic world at the time. That's a lot of why the Renaissance even *happened,* and why it was so hyped-up about the classics.
Art was reserved to religion, anatomy was inaccurate because touching corpses was not allowed. That alone makes it dark
If you stop science discoveries
@@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369 That's sorta true, to an extent, but science and art didn't just halt. From Irish literary culture to the marvels of architecture to the (admittedly ill-intended) advancements in metallurgy that made the Industrial Revolution possible, the "Dark Ages" had a lot of light to them. Much was "lost" (or, rather, had moved eastwards) but much was gained too.
Ooooooohhhh, Age of mythology music, nice choice, also good work on the topic, talking religion on the internet is walking on a mine field over an oil deposit over a volcano, so good luck with tha in future episodes
Sugar coating the Islamic conquest, of course. Read "The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise: Muslims, Christians and Jews under Islamic Rule in Medieval Spain", by Dario Fernandez-Morera.
Yea, I don't know why so many RUclipsrs had to constantly point out "and everything went for all Christians and Jews under Muslim rule" That's like saying "everything went well for Jews and Muslims under Christian rule" because Jews and Muslims had also been living under Christian rule for centuries but nobody ever says it.
Me: Clicks on a video about Abrahamic philosophy
Man in a video: go and watch 2 previous videos.
Me : ok, clicks on this one
Man in a video: go and watch 3 previous video.
Me: ok down to rabbit hole , here we go
You know, the Caliphs during that era seem actually pretty chill when they aren't engaged in some war or conquest.
Dimesional Wayfarer Tell that to the Indians.
then the sikhs
Or to shia
@@BlackIce3190 The Caliphs never waged war on India.
You taught this better than my teacher. Great job and keep it up!
Blue's disclaimer is like spongebob trying to extinguish that fire
The caliphate was not pluralistic. It was Islamic. Non Muslims were "tolerated" because they paid more taxes - it was a needed cash flow.
As opposed to being murdered in Europe?
@@mauddib696as a jew back in the day paying tax would befar better than getting impaled by crusaders
@@sakkoyaba4482 Also getting out paying the tax was a good reason for converting to Islam.
@@sydhenderson6753 brother if thats only how much you valued your religion or belief then pretty sure it aint that engraved in yo heart also pretty sure tax is still better than death cause in those days single hot mothers wasnt a very popular thing 💀🤲 ifykwIm brother
Also like didnt christians converted peep of other religion 5-600 years prior to this...pretty sure they didnt let peep live even if they paid higher taxes
I must just give points for using, if I'm not wrong, Age of Mythology bgm (or something that's similar to it). Even if it's not intentional, it's still something that fits really well with the whole theme.
Hi Blue, great video, just a couple of things::
It would've been nice if you spoke more about the yearly Jihads that the Caliphates waged on Byzantine land also, and the conquest of the Iberian peninsula and the acts committed there, if you're gonna talk holy war you gotta mention the reconquista
You kept mentioning religious freedom in the caliphate, and I know where you're coming at, you're comparing it to the pogroms against the Jews in Europe, but I wouldn't call the caliphates policy "religious freedom" and more "religious subjugation".
The non Muslim subjects were firstly forced to pay a humiliation tax, called the Jizya (en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya), in any case where a Muslim and another person of the book had an altercation the Muslim automatically had favour in the courts. They were, by all reasonable measures, second class citizens
It was actually extremely comparable to the Byzantine empire, which forced similar rules on its subjects, especially the Jews
Comparing this to Persia or even Greece before the Islamic conquests the differences are stark, where religious freedom and even atheism of a sort were tolerated, the latter still being a punishable offensive in Islamic countries today
As I said earlier, great video, just wanted to make it clear that religious freedom probably isn't a great term, maybe religious toleration would've been better
Tom Pearse acts committed there ? Dude it was one hell of a dumb before muslims took it and turned it into a great society in every aspect of civilization
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the tax less "humiliation" and more of a "get out of military" tax? You know, instead of being drafted into the military you pay the tax. Which, at least to me, sounds admiringly reasonable given the time period. Sucks a bit that the division of military or tax is made by religion rather than choice, but personally I'd rather see that my family pays a tax than someone in my family being forced into the military.
Then again, I'm Scandinavian and we are generally very tolerant towards taxes.
@@EzraDair islam destroyed so many cultures and histories. Look at Persia, a succession that prided itself on tolerance, pragmaticism, and egalitarianism, each fluctuatiing but more or less kept its skeletal frame. Then Islam happened, and look at Iran now
Helena Nilsson Yh and muslims payed zakat both party’s paid taxes but the non Muslims were exempt from the military so that is more than fair
Jizia wasn't a humilliation tax by any means. People of other religions could pay the tax instead of being drafted by the military and Muslims were already paying money to the government in the form of Zakat, which was *significantly* higher than the Jizia.
The tax was instituted because the state needed funding to protect all the people of different religion within it's boarders. People of other religions had the same protections so they were required to pay a tax as per their duties as citizens. This is the exact same social contract every nations-state engages in today with their citizens.
So non-Muslims didn't have to fight in the army, paid lower taxes than the Muslims, enjoyed all the benefits of your average citizen, and the freedoms of instituting their own religious governments within the Muslim boarders.
That's a pretty sweet deal the proof the people like living under these arrangements can be found in immigration patterns. Historically religiously persecuted groups like Jews and Unothadox Christians sects consistently left Christian Kingdoms to settle in Muslim land where they remained and prospered for centuries. Not to mention that the ancestors of these religious immigrants still live in these lands today.
The only reasons they came was because they were treated better in Muslims lands, much better than in Christians lands. If they were mistreated, they would never have come let alone settled there.
Thanks for the video. Could you possibly share the script? I'd like to send it to an esl student, but the captions are way too fast at her level. Thanks in advance.
Noticed you used Age Of Mythology soundtrack
Go read the chronicles of John, bishop of Nikiu to get an idea how gruesome and brutal the early Arab conquest were in Egypt you have whole cities beinging put to death even without putting any means of resistance (it kinda reminds of ISIS) but what do you expect it’s the past
😂I am from Egypt and the Arabs, when they conquered Egypt, the Egyptians were Copts and they were insulted to the point that they imprisoned the Christians’ great patriarchs and took the lands of the Copts, but Amr Madban Al-Aas returned the lands to the residents of Egypt and the Christians protected him and never demolished any temple.
@@mohammedhagag8841 I don’t care what they taught you at school but they have been lying to you the sole reason why Egypt is Muslim it’s due to persecution and forced conversion same with many others
i made it. 4 minutes after it came out, and i'm... NOT EVEN THE THIRD PERSON HERE
*-sigh-* let the comment wars commence 😐
Talks about religion. Comments go berserk: RRRRRRRRREEEEEEE!!!!!!!
Oh gosh... This comment section is going to be a warzone - or a _crusade_, am I right? ;) Hah... I'm not funny.
I'm gonna put a Jihad on your stupid joke. ;)
There seems to be a lot more "oh the comments are going to be Crrrrraaaazy" posts than actual debate.
Oh shut the fuck up
I’m currently home sick and eating oranges. Thank you Blue, for giving me entertainment.
Are you playing 'Kiss From a Rose' on zitar (or something similar) in the background...😅😅
anyone else hear that sweet age of mythology music?
me 😂😂💖
Is that... Age of Mythology in the backround?
Ah, Nostalgia.
Agreed by and large about the toleration under the Ummayads-Abbasids,however by the time of the Turkifications,it had kinda gone out,as while peoples of the book(christians,Jews and Mazdayanis due to the Zend Avesta0 indeed enjoyed these freedoms,others like Hindus and Buddhists in the east and a not incosiderable number of Berber polytheists faced much massacre and forced conversion.General thumb rule,the more further from Egypt and Baghdad you were on either end(Almoravids and Almohads in the west,ghaznavids and Ghurids in the East) the persecutions kept ramping up.
1 Corinthians 1,12 and following;
"What I mean is that each one of you says, “I follow Paul,” or “I follow Apollos,” or “I follow Cephas,” or “I follow Christ.”. Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?"
It's been an issue since day 1, we knew it was an issue since day 1, and yet we didn't learn our lesson.
I count myself lucky that I learned it the easy way, by getting to know people that I can see as true brothers and sisters in Christ while also disagreeing with them on quiet a few theological issues.
Muslims weren't that benevolent as leaders, in fact many Christian cities in Africa decided not to fight them because they had heard the stories of how those who fought against them had seen no mercy, to the point of having all churches ravaged, all men killed and the innocent and non-fighter sold as slaves to set an example. The Muslim conquest followed no traditional rule of war and was very brutal to those who fought against them, even if they surrender after the first skirmish. Muslims rulers did try to be open but that rule usually collapsed when further from the hearts of the Empire.
i call bullshit on that, btw most cristians in africa and asia were happy that they got out of the decomposing corpse that is byzantium with its (often violent) attempts to end the monophysites sect.
Compared to the christians, and especially the crusaders, they were surely way more benevolent.
The sacking of cities during this period wasn't uncommon by different people all around the world. Siege warfare required large allocations of manpower and resources for period up to years. Non countries wanted to have to commit to sieges, especially when campaigns would require the sieging of multiple cities and strongholds. It was common practice to sack and exhort significant vengeance of populations that resisted so as to scare future targets into not resisting. There was also the difficulty of exerting control on ones armed forces after a lengthy siege when a location was taken by storm. Casualties would be very high and even up to the Napoleonic war it was somewhat normalised for Armies to be given time to sack and loot as a form of reward to the troops involved.
wrong christainty was forced upon people .. you know nothing about history
It's my understanding that the Christians were persecuted for being atheist oddly enough by the Romans
Nice Age of Mythology music
Age of Mythology soundtrack!
Thank you blue, for aiding me in my social studies class 😂
Age of Mytology soundtack, noice!
At the end of the video, I was quite offended by the fact you marked Bulgaria as part of the Byzanthine empire, which it was not. Don't take this personally, but I kind of did.
I'm very sorry that you were offended. Several different resources and maps I used marked everything south of the Danube river as part of the byzantine empire in this specific time period (as well as others), and I'm loyal to my sources.
Additionally, this entry seems to definitively indicate a Byzantine presence in Bulgaria for a long span of time en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_conquest_of_Bulgaria (Yes, it's wikipedia, but it's quick and to the point)
I am terribly sorry about this, Sir! I am indeed at fault here, as I hastily jumped to conclusions! I got the impression that you were talking about a different time period and my bitterness got the better of me, since it's often the case in historical videos that Bulgaria is not included when it should be. Please, accept my apology, because I truly am sorry!
Haha, no worries. I can sympathize, as the Byzantine empire, in keeping with roman traditions, have wildly changing borders that depend as much on the direction of the wind as it does on political and military factors. And the fact that I didn't put accompanying years & dates in this video is very much my own fault for the confusion.
Most empires have the courtesy to expand and shrink in predictable patterns, but the Byzantine empire keeps shifting every one of its borders in every conceivable direction for its entire history.
omg plz post the crusades this week... i hav crusades for my annual history exam AND I CANT CONCENTRATE ON IT CUZ MY HISTORY TEACHER IS JUST FRIKKIN BORING AND STRICT! I learn nothing from her..... i wish u guys wud be my history teachers i swear >O
It’s a bit misleading to say that they all got along when the Berbers were genocided and forced to fight in armies when they refused to convert. Entire coasts don’t just change religion because they’re living in a bastion of tolerance
They weren't tolerant of pagans. On the other hand Zoroastrianism was monotheistic (unless you consider Ahriman to be a god). Later they found a reason to fudge Hinduism into monotheism since everything is aspects of Brahman. Also there is this thing about peoples of the Book, which is the Old Testament for Jews, Old and New Testaments for Christians, the Koran for Muslims, the Avesta for Zoroastrians and a bunch of stuff for Hindus.
Why do people get butthurt over facts. He isn't defending Islam or any religion guys. He is being honest. Maybe you should stop believing in your propaganda history and be open to facts.
All people have some propaganda in their history, you should dig deeper.
Peace
Zoroastrianism. Where is it? One of the largest religions in the entire world went from being exactly that to be all but dead. He is not being honest and Islam was not tolerant, it was intolerant. When Muslims conquered you and you were not Muslim you either died, fled or paid a protection tax so you would be allowed to practice your faith without the risk of being beheaded. Didn't stop the Mameluks or Ottomans from enslaving Christians to be soldiers in their armies, or stop them from massacring Jews and just generally oppressing Zoroastrians and Hindu's. I am VERY well versed in ISLAMIC history, and they revel in the slaughter of infidels and the establishment of great Caliphates and in general promote conquering their non-Islamic neighbours.
Jorge Justin paganism. where is it? shamanism, tengriism, the roman pantheon, where are they? generally the same place as zoroastrianism, relegated to obscurity by similar forces, typically non-violent conversion to curry political favor, tax exemptions, and favorable trade. In Persia people were converted in much the same way Northern Europe was by Christians
Jorge Justin muslims didn’t kill Persians over time the entire place became Muslim same with Europeans
Random Human how it’s actually historic fact google eat or read a book China and the Middle East during that time were a 100 times better than Europe
@@jorgejustin461 wasn't zoroastrianism manly practice by the high ranks in Persia?
Was the video of history of Islam taken down?
Can't wait for the next two.
I love that you used music from Age of Mythology lol
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I think a few annotations as well as an outline of the history of the caliphates (basically just dates, territory and some of the most important events) would improve this video - I just get a feeling that it contains too much history in too little time.
That's a mistake I correct in tomorrow's video. I was a little too amorphous with time in this one and that's my bad.
Age of empires background music? Niceeee.
l believe that this background music is the norse theme of age of mythology
l keep hearing the noises the dwarfs made😂😂😂
How ironic is it that I had an exam in these topics just today? I probably failed lol.
Yay! Notification squad? XD
Deja Kat XD yep
aw ye :P
Yes, nobody care fuck off.
Present.
Finnian Quail really
Will you be adding these various videos to one playlist when it's all said n done?
It seems I can't find the previous video.
I wish you'd talk about Zoroastrianism more.
Finally a new vid!!
5:11 For what religion is the angel or birdman symbol for?
Zoroastrian
@@farazsal ye found it out thanks
I was playing Age of Mythologies while listening to this, and was wondering why the hell the in-game music got a whole lot louder at the end...
**waits for buzzfeed to arrive**
For France Germany and England Muslim conquer may have not been something so concerning but for Eastern countries it sure was. The Turkish army was huge and took you stuff woman and kids on their way back. Not so fun times. Also churches where destroyed so dunno bout religious tolerance you are talking about.
He was talking about Ummayad Caliphate (Arabs) not Turks
Its okay bud, the internet is a safe place where adults can faithfully converse and discuss difficult topics without fear of reprisal, bigotry, or blind hate. See? Safe.
Sometimes I feel you’re a little bit bias, christians under Islamic rules still had to pay A tax just to believe in their faith, and Iberia for example you were not allowed to even talk about your religion, whether or not it was with the intention of converting someone or educating them, I understand the same thing was done in Europe to Muslims, in the end these are both religious violence caused by pretty much the same group, but we need to see one action of two groups as heinous
I know,he makes it seem as if second class citizen ship in your own country was nice 😂😂he completely brushed off the Dhimmi status
@@RobertoCarlos-le6bk better than being slaughtered
So this should really be called Christian and Muslim conquest. I know of Christian and muslim rather... bloody, history but the only thing I cannot seem to find is any "dirt" so to say about the Jews, Judaism seems to been the victims for a long time but I find it hard to believe that they where pure paragons throughout history. That just seem...inhuman to be honest. Anyone actually knows anything about this and if they where Saints throughout history, was it because they never seemed to get a strong foothold like Christianity and the Muslims?
the age of empire song damn...or was the age of mythology? I cant remember which but both are great
beat my notification 😂
Guy completely skipped over so much history of Dhimmi status 😂😂
dude my global studies final is on this topic thank you
Man, there is definitely no bias here! Muslim conquests? “Sure, you do you!” Christian Reconquests? “Evil power-seeking Assholes!”
In his crusades videos he's says the reason why he doesn't like the crusades is because there was 9 of them, and almost all of them failed miserably, not because they were Christian.
Ross Ferguson So if they succeeded he would be fine with them? Doubt it.
@@devinconyers6430 I can't say whether he did or not, all I know is what did happen, and his reaction on them.
Thank you for all you do
Kinda curious, in the Crusades video will the Northern Crusades against the pagan Prussians & Lithuanians get at least a passing mention? They're pretty overlooked outside Eastern Europe, despite being a key factor in the history of that region.
and you could say some very successful Crusades
2 out 3 is not bad
Is this music from Age of Empires? Idk it sounds super familiar
Huh you learn something new every day
Age of Kings music? You. Me. Oasis. Let's do it.
hi i just subscribed
I love the Age of Mythology music
Can't find the Islam video. Was it taken down?
1 hour yey! I love you guys!
Oooooo, Crusades! Those will be fun! :D
Whenever one looks at the similar historical stuff the the Christians and Muslim did the Muslims tended to be the more chill. They accepted Jews, they kept all writing available, they accepted others having different faiths, etc...
Islam is nice and easy, so long as they have the authority, and it was the peak of their powers.
Their intelectual and cultural boom started to drop massively with Mongol expansions and civil wars
seariosuly loving the AoM music ^^
Holy shit, are you using music from Age of mythology? I'm super distracted by my nostalgia
What happened to the Islam video?