This was one of the wildest sports brawls I have ever seen. I remember watching this live and it was one of those extra physical games that you knew it was only a matter of time before something would happen to cause it to pop off.
Danny Manning not being ejected for his second flagrant foul was the spark for the brawl which preceded Grant Long's retaliation for committing a flagrant foul on Duane Ferrell.
@@drphot6050 my nephew and I are big basketball fans and I’m always telling him about the New York Knicks of the 90s and how tough they were. He loves curry and Giannis and LeBron and Jokic I’m like kid you should’ve seen Ewing, Starks, Mason, Oakley, Olajuwon, Pippen, Jordan.
yeah i’d love to be watching a playoff game and have it be interrupted by like 15 minutes of fighting, breaking up the fight, and commercials while the refs watch replays and hand out fouls
@@sam-bw5mr , I understand where you’re coming from and I sort of agree. Nobody wants to see fights every night during a basketball game. I just remember there was a higher level of physical intensity, and a stronger sense of rivalry. The players seemed like they wanted to kill each other and it made for better tv. Now, when you see these players, all hugging, laughing and shaking hands before the game, it take something away from the game.
I disagree. Players are at risk to get seriously injured with physical fighting. Especially being sucker punched from behind like that. If a player did get badly injured, the league and players would face multiple legal ramifications including possible criminal charges. I wouldn't want to see a player get hurt or go through that legal process.
@@catfishhornet its not the players theyre worried about its the fans getting involved as well....everything was fine until they start fighting the players and vice versa
@@catfishhornet Yeah, the league's hands were pretty much tied here. In addition to this brawl, around the same time there was the JoJo English-Derek Harper melee that spilled into the crowd in Chicago (with David Stern in attendance) and also the wild Greg Anthony brawl against Phoenix. The league was approaching a bit of a crossroads where the bench-clearing violence seemed to be developing into a trend. And considering the NBA was already supposed to have learned its lesson after Kermit Washington nearly killed Rudy Tomjanovich in 1977, the league had to take action. Had they turned a blind eye and another Rudy T situation sprung about, the responsibility would have been placed squarely in their lap. It seemed to only take one more bench-clearing brawl after the new rules to send the intended message. There was a Pacers-Kings fight that resulted in 16 suspensions in 1995. www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1995-11-12-9511111060-story.html
@Joe Limbus Except that not only have there been earlier fights that involved fans as well as players, coaches, and/or referees, they were a lot more common, especially in the 1940s-70s. One good 1970s example happened in Game 3 of the 1977 Warriors-Pistons series (back when Detroit, Milwaukee, and Chicago all were in the Western Conference). Even the '80s had Cedric Maxwell vs a Philadelphia fan in the 1981 Celtics-Sixers series, and Warriors' coach George Karl plus a couple of his players fighting with fans in Utah in 1987.
ESPN is why this brawl didn’t get a lot of coverage unlike other fights. They never liked Turner Sports and Atlanta. Too much under the table competition back then. No wonder everyone is amazed at seeing this fight. Lol
I saw Tommy Heinsohn speak at the Hall of Fame about 10 years ago and he claimed that in the 1950s these types of fights were indeed regular occurrences in the NBA
High quality version: ruclips.net/video/VFxI8Nq4TDI/видео.htmlsi=4G-hUevjQc1iQz2X The actual brawl is at 2:28. I just felt it was important to include the lead-up for context, particularly Danny Manning’s two flagrants without an ejection.
This was a historic NBA brawl. It was the brawl that prompted the NBA to institute the "can't leave the bench or be suspended rule." Who would have thought years later that it would impact a few teams in the playoffs. (i.e. the 1997 Knicks vs Heat and later on Robert Horry cheap shot in Steve Nash that caused a key player from the Suns to get suspended).
@@Kicks-iw2xe I believe the rule did take effect until the 1994-1995 season. Players who left the bench in this particular Heat-Hawks brawl were not suspended.
I remember this like it was yesterday. They put all that behind them like nothing happened. Atlanta embraced them. We would make the playoffs after their first season with us. Back then, brawls happened more often and then move on. This wouldn’t fly today.
Oh, so this is where the most overrecationary rule in the history of sports came from. BTW, I would've had more respect for Adam Silver if he would've dispensed of that rule the instant he became commissioner in order to separate himself from his predecessor, David Stern, but noooo.....
That was a pretty good Hawks team. I was really surprised when they were upset by the Pacers in the second round in 6 games. As a Knicks fan, I was pleased that the Knicks avoided playing the Hawks. The Pacers wound up being a tougher out than I would’ve thought.
This was when the NBA playoffs were exciting to watch. Teams did not like each other and played with an edge. Unlike today. They have taken all the competitive fire out the game.
2:42 I saw a basketbrawl like this at a local women's rec league. 🏀 Both benches emptied, punches were flying and it was pure chaos. The game was called and there was less than a minute left in the 1st half. I'm not gonna compare rec league ball to the NBA.
Commentator back then: "The league is going to have to look in to this because things are getting too rough". Commentator in 2022: Player X will have to sit out tonight's game. He broke a fingernail, and can't participate ".
This was one of the wildest sports brawls I have ever seen. I remember watching this live and it was one of those extra physical games that you knew it was only a matter of time before something would happen to cause it to pop off.
Danny Manning not being ejected for his second flagrant foul was the spark for the brawl which preceded Grant Long's retaliation for committing a flagrant foul on Duane Ferrell.
The 90’s!!! Best basketball era ever!!!
It really was!
@@drphot6050 my nephew and I are big basketball fans and I’m always telling him about the New York Knicks of the 90s and how tough they were. He loves curry and Giannis and LeBron and Jokic I’m like kid you should’ve seen Ewing, Starks, Mason, Oakley, Olajuwon, Pippen, Jordan.
yeah i’d love to be watching a playoff game and have it be interrupted by like 15 minutes of fighting, breaking up the fight, and commercials while the refs watch replays and hand out fouls
@@sam-bw5mr , I understand where you’re coming from and I sort of agree. Nobody wants to see fights every night during a basketball game. I just remember there was a higher level of physical intensity, and a stronger sense of rivalry. The players seemed like they wanted to kill each other and it made for better tv. Now, when you see these players, all hugging, laughing and shaking hands before the game, it take something away from the game.
Yes. And the '80s and '70s too.
Oh, and this is what NBA fights should still be. Hockey, as well.
I disagree. Players are at risk to get seriously injured with physical fighting. Especially being sucker punched from behind like that. If a player did get badly injured, the league and players would face multiple legal ramifications including possible criminal charges. I wouldn't want to see a player get hurt or go through that legal process.
@@catfishhornet its not the players theyre worried about its the fans getting involved as well....everything was fine until they start fighting the players and vice versa
@@catfishhornet Yeah, the league's hands were pretty much tied here. In addition to this brawl, around the same time there was the JoJo English-Derek Harper melee that spilled into the crowd in Chicago (with David Stern in attendance) and also the wild Greg Anthony brawl against Phoenix.
The league was approaching a bit of a crossroads where the bench-clearing violence seemed to be developing into a trend. And considering the NBA was already supposed to have learned its lesson after Kermit Washington nearly killed Rudy Tomjanovich in 1977, the league had to take action. Had they turned a blind eye and another Rudy T situation sprung about, the responsibility would have been placed squarely in their lap.
It seemed to only take one more bench-clearing brawl after the new rules to send the intended message. There was a Pacers-Kings fight that resulted in 16 suspensions in 1995. www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1995-11-12-9511111060-story.html
The 1990s we're a lit decade for the NBA and it's brawls like this one. 🔥👊🏿
@Joe Limbus Except that not only have there been earlier fights that involved fans as well as players, coaches, and/or referees, they were a lot more common, especially in the 1940s-70s. One good 1970s example happened in Game 3 of the 1977 Warriors-Pistons series (back when Detroit, Milwaukee, and Chicago all were in the Western Conference). Even the '80s had Cedric Maxwell vs a Philadelphia fan in the 1981 Celtics-Sixers series, and Warriors' coach George Karl plus a couple of his players fighting with fans in Utah in 1987.
One of the most underrated brawls ever.It was basically a 1950s NBA brawl (sans fans getting on the court) in the 1990s.
ESPN is why this brawl didn’t get a lot of coverage unlike other fights. They never liked Turner Sports and Atlanta. Too much under the table competition back then. No wonder everyone is amazed at seeing this fight. Lol
I saw Tommy Heinsohn speak at the Hall of Fame about 10 years ago and he claimed that in the 1950s these types of fights were indeed regular occurrences in the NBA
@@TRJ22419871960s and '70s too. And they were not uncommon in the '80s either.
High quality version: ruclips.net/video/VFxI8Nq4TDI/видео.htmlsi=4G-hUevjQc1iQz2X
The actual brawl is at 2:28.
I just felt it was important to include the lead-up for context, particularly Danny Manning’s two flagrants without an ejection.
The Alvin Gentry part of this story is badly lost in the history of craziest NBA moments.
Correct, because Gentry broke his hand when he was trying to hold Grant Long back.
The NBA of the 90's: No Babies Allowed. That was rough and tumble, Wild Wild West-style NBA back then.
These are the same playoffs as the Knicks-Bulls brawl. What a time, the league was the wild wild west with the sheriff off playing baseball.
This was real basketball in the 90's! That's why the ratings were higher because of real defense, physical, etc.
I love it. I absolutely loved it. I get hyped everytime when a sport fight ir brawl happens and it doesn't matter what sport I'm watching
They playing like they lives depended on it because in ‘94 everyone finally had a shot on winning a ring… I wonder why 🤔🤔
Lebatard show, am I right 🙋🏾♂️
This was a historic NBA brawl. It was the brawl that prompted the NBA to institute the "can't leave the bench or be suspended rule." Who would have thought years later that it would impact a few teams in the playoffs. (i.e. the 1997 Knicks vs Heat and later on Robert Horry cheap shot in Steve Nash that caused a key player from the Suns to get suspended).
This one, plus the Knicks-Bulls brawl a few days later.
Wasnt the rule put in after the suns knicks brawl the year before
@@Kicks-iw2xe I believe the rule did take effect until the 1994-1995 season. Players who left the bench in this particular Heat-Hawks brawl were not suspended.
@@3243_if I remember correctly that was JoJo English and Derek Harper?
@@edmondlau511 Yes it was.
What the heck, I used to follow the HAWKS when they would air their games on TBS or TNT, yet I don't remember this, even though it's a playoff game.
Long, along with Smitty, would be traded to Atlanta a few months later. I wonder how awkward that was at first.
Him and Grant Long traded for Kevin Willis😂😂😂
Hahahahha, wow did not realize Smitty got traded so close to this incident
I remember this like it was yesterday. They put all that behind them like nothing happened. Atlanta embraced them. We would make the playoffs after their first season with us. Back then, brawls happened more often and then move on. This wouldn’t fly today.
Now this is a fight. Not that pitty-pat b.s. pushing that they call a fight today.
Well this escalated quickly. I mean this really ran out of Hand fast.😮
LmFaOo "The Game Is Getting TO RUFF!!"🤣🤣🤣
now it’s soft
Interesting that Duane Ferrell was neither ejected or suspended for his actions iirc.
This was just as bad as the malice at the palace 😳 but only the players were involved 🤦🏾♂️
Mike Ryan sent me here
Oh, so this is where the most overrecationary rule in the history of sports came from. BTW, I would've had more respect for Adam Silver if he would've dispensed of that rule the instant he became commissioner in order to separate himself from his predecessor, David Stern, but noooo.....
damn them boys was really swingin
That was a pretty good Hawks team. I was really surprised when they were upset by the Pacers in the second round in 6 games. As a Knicks fan, I was pleased that the Knicks avoided playing the Hawks. The Pacers wound up being a tougher out than I would’ve thought.
This was when the NBA playoffs were exciting to watch. Teams did not like each other and played with an edge. Unlike today. They have taken all the competitive fire out the game.
2:42 I saw a basketbrawl like this at a local women's rec league. 🏀 Both benches emptied, punches were flying and it was pure chaos. The game was called and there was less than a minute left in the 1st half. I'm not gonna compare rec league ball to the NBA.
I really miss Bob Neal. RIP 😞
As far as I can tell, Bob Neal’s still with us… unless I missed something recently.
@@Swove2204 You're right!! I don't know why I thought he was dead. Welcome back, Bob!
Then Willis and Steve Smith got traded for each other
Commentator back then: "The league is going to have to look in to this because things are getting too rough".
Commentator in 2022: Player X will have to sit out tonight's game. He broke a fingernail, and can't participate ".
I’m still wondering if Danny manning is out the game or not?
“They’re resorting to thuggery!”
Haha ikr
What a great fight.!!
Koncak and Willis are supposed to be the same size. How koncak is taller?
I don’t remember this one. Damn!!
Why is this the first time I’m seeing this
Lol @ 3:45- The Hawks mascot has Gold Gloves on. 😅
Derrick Coleman college fight is still the best in my opinion
Love it
Solid action.
I remember ;back when I was in 5th grade
This fight wouldnt have happened if the guy didnt miss imagine
Manning and Billy Owens were the most overrated players of this era
Pippen
Manning was a beast in college
I am surprised fans didnt rush the court to help out the Atlanta Hawks.
CULTURE BEFORE THE CULTURE!!! HEAT IN 5 2023!
Danny manning was a punk and never was