P.J. Brown fights Charlie Ward during Knicks vs. Heat 1997 NBA playoff game | ESPN Archives
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- Опубликовано: 13 май 2019
- On May 14, 1997, tempers flare between the New York Knicks and Miami Heat during a playoff matchup. At (1:42) Charlie Ward goes to box out P.J. Brown, but Brown takes exception, grabs Ward and throws him on the floor, which sets off a huge fight between the two teams.
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PJ Brown tackled more Heisman Trophy Winners than the entire Miami Dolphins roster (in that same year!).
Pat Riley and Jeff Van Gundy looking like background actors on Good Fellas 🤣😂
Jeff Van Gundy told Pat Riley to go home and get that shinebox
That was a damn side suplex. I miss THIS NBA
Ray Harris - PJ couldve made some side money as a part Time WWE wrestler
I believe they called that the “Gut wrench” suplex. Or at least Gorilla Monsoon did back in the day
😭😂 pj brown 💪🏾
Side walk slam
@@thecardbunker801gut wrench suplex.
Sidewalk slam is literally what it says. Side. From your side…. Not from in front of you. 🤨
Miss these days teenage years
Glad i was young enough to witness these crazy, hustle, gritty games.
i.e. any Pistons game
the good old days wish I could rewind time.
I'm born and bred Chicago! But I used to love this particular match up as a kid because they hated each other and it showed on the court.
Al Simmons You would be correct bruh. As a young kid at the time, I’ve always love this matchup come playoff time. It was always volatile. Alonzo Mourning and Larry Johnson set the tone as they could not stand each other at the time.
I remember watching this Back 1997
Gwendolyn Traylor Pacers and Knicks was another strong rivalry. When Reggie did the choke sign to the Knicks and shut down Spike Lee, that set the rivalry bomb off so hard.
Whenever I would see the Knicks and Heat meet up, it was like watching Crips vs. Piru of basketball it was just that intense back in the day.
on 6-5-94 ewing played elite
'I just picked him up and got the man off my knees"😂😂🤣
😂😂😂😂😂💯
lol
😂😂
Plain and simple
😂🤣💀
Bring back this playoff game !!!
The GOOD old days of the nba...
Look how much better SportsCenter was man. It stinks now. I can't get through 5 minutes, I'd rather read the news now.
Chiko was here ya don’t say.
You right
i MiSs tHe oLd Days blah blah i'm old and stubborn
@@sayhukwarren Old and stubborn, I was 26 when I wrote this about 3 years ago. Came back to see the brawl again, and SC was still better back then.
@@sayhukwarrenyoung transhead
Rich Eisen looking young af..😁 these were the days man. I was 11 in 97
tim hardaway was out there snitching lol
"... 1-800 lawyers, hello??" PJ Brown "mopped the floor" with Charlie Ward... 😂😂😂
Pj brown flipped that grown ass man like he was some pancakes. I was 12 when this shit happened.
in ALL honesty i really really HATE ward + i got nothing against brown neither guy was TOTALLY guilty ward was boxing out + didn't think nothing of what he did + it set brown off he didn't want flip him just 2 flip him
I was also 12 and I remember that flip.
I was 13 and I’m from NYC and this was everywhere and the talk of the town. Crazy how all these years later, we getting this second round matchup again.
Old school nba. This is STILL the craziest thing i've ever seen in any nba game, even today, next to "the malace in the palace" 😳😳😯😯!!
I've been a die hard heat fan from fa beginning growing up in Miami & I loved when we battled da Knicks
Pj Brown with the WWF suplex. This rivalry was intense. NBA soft now no intensity.
Charlie Ward is only Heisman trophy winner to get ejected from a NBA game for fighting! lol
ReShaun Groomes - Charlie Ward is the only Heisman winner to get wwe bodyslammed in a basketball game
@clharris7211 He DEFENDED himself. Would you let a man 1 foot Taller than you Bodyslam you?? And not try to Fight bac!?!? If so, you're a Real COWARD!!! SMH.
Back when espn was about only sports. 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Ya don’t say.
@@ericradford2142 he said what he said.
@@jaychild78 it meant no kidding
Yea. It’s unwatchable now.
ESPN was so cool back in the day
This was the NBA I fell in love with back then.
Boy. Looking back at these Sports Center graphics. Whoa. But the production was better. Direct review of what the game was what happened it it. Straight to the point.
I still have the sports page from The Miami Herald that came out the next morning. I remember this game.
Man I miss this tougher version of the NBA. Now You get whistles for breathing and rewarded for flopping.
lol
hilarious
LeFraud Blames
Dennis Rodman used to flop
@@miguelcastro0666 yeah there were certain guys that got made fun of for flopping. Now the entire nba does all game long. Big difference
Between Tim Hardway and Charlie Ward, I don’t know which one was the funniest to interview 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love the physical games in the 80s and 90s
Every interview is amazing
Charlie was an amazing quarterback in college
Finalist for the Heisman, if I remember it correctly.
Erick Becerra he WON the Heisman
@@justaguywhomakescomics6532 You don't get any more final than that!
Charlie Ward: He eat all our things, to say the least. He laughed to see the onna fide. Ha Ha!!
He was actually offered to be a backup QB for Joe Montana during his rookie year with the Knicks while Joe was in Kansas City.
Nba of the lebron era is not even a shadow of what it was before the players in the game had much more passion and iy was more enjoyable n entertaining because of it wasnt so soft
i forgot how testy those old Heat vs Knicks game were.....
Good ol days💯💯💯💯💯😎
I was at this game, in Miami Arena, literally. I was 13 years old at the time. I made my dad take me to the game. I will never forget this. The Heat and the league in general were known for getting into brawls every other game, but especially the Heat because we were so hardcore on our blacktop-style defense during our Atlantic Division championship days. So I was used to kerfuffles on the court. But I had never seen anything like this. PJ literally FLIPPED Charlie Ward. Cartwheeled the guy. I could not believe my eyes. I bet New Yorkers watching it were like "WHAT THE FUUUUUU! YOU KILLED OUR BEST QUARTERBACK!!!!!"
Jeff Van Gundy looked like a Knicks coach back then, he had that NBC Must See TV Comedy look to him for whatever reason. LOL!
Back in the day when the sportscenter used to be awesome , I miss the mid 90s sportscenter
I don't think Charlie Ward ever got tackled like that when he was a Football player. 1:47.
back when teams really didnt stand eachother
Tim Hardaway acting like a snitch in that post game interview
@Blue Skeptic
What does that have to do with Hardaway's behavior in front of that mic and camera?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Blue Skeptic exactly.. so why is Tim a Jim rattling off names like that?
I love the old school sportscenter graphics
Crazy how the Knicks ENTIRE team(Ewing, Johnson, Houston, Starks and Ward) got suspended and cost them this series because of this one incident
facts!
Had Ewing, Johnson, Houston, Starks not been suspended for leaving their bench during the altercation between Ward and Brown, the Knicks win Game 6 at the Garden however get beat by the Bulls in 5 or 6 in the ECF. Disappointingly we’ll never now.
PJ Brown was teaching his son how to do a cartwheel😂
🤣🤣🤣
Miami always brought out the best in us
Man, that is a low-scoring game compared to today's NBA.
@Michael Bonhomme facts
@Gwendolyn Traylor you are 💯% speaking the truth
More 3s
Michael Bonhomme Euro basketball has stained the true meaning of basketball these days. Running up the score in the name of entertainment. I love basketball as much as the next fan. At least make it worthwhile with the defense being part of the equation.
Every knick game back in those days was low scoring unfortunate for my Knicks they still scoring like this while every other team scoring 120 plus
I was 12 watching that game. Every body in Tallahassee was talking about it cuz it was Charlie Ward fighting and being a heisman winner @ FLORIDA STATE. Good old days
When Tim Hardaway publicly says Knicks players left the vicinity of the bench, you know suspensions are coming. That was a great rivalry by the way.
Ewing took maybe two steps onto the court and got suspended for game 6 along with Alan Houston & Ward. Knicks played valiantly, but remember seeing Oakley trying to lead a fast break and knowing it wasn’t going to turn out well.
The Knicks new the rule and couldn't follow it. They have no one but themselves to blame
I remember this sports center
P j brown 18 points 12 boards before mopping the floor with Charlie ward
To this day that still has me laughing 😂
So violent these guys were in 1997 😂😂😂
Ward went football on Brown….LOL. You could tell Ward was lying when he said it wasn’t intentional, couldn’t even look at the camera…😂😂🤣😆
Curry and Harden would not have survived back then!
We missed out on a possibly great series between the Bulls and Knicks. Bulls still would’ve won but it would’ve been tough!
the heat went up 2-0 on the magic in round 1 winning by 35 + 17 so pls tell me how u feel if they would've kept that up
Tim H droppin names.. Smh lol
The camera guy RIGHT next to the pile 💀.
Don’t forget Knick’s they had 3-1 lead before that game and all those stupid suspensions that basically killed them. That year was probably their best chance to get past the bulls !
aliesma That blowout was the year before, with Derek Harper 3pt fest.
Those suspensions were the only reason that weaker Miami team beat the Knicks.
The Knicks never really "rivaled" Miami, just beat the brakes off of them year after year.
This series was literally the only one the Heat actually won, and the league won it for them via suspension.
the bulls would've beat them 4-1
the way things were going the knicks probably would've won game 6 with patrick ewing
the knicks lost 101-90 in game 7 with 37 points and 17 rebounds from patrick ewing
THE GOOD OLD DAYS
Charlie ward trying to say he was doing a normal box out 😂
Heat-Knicks was always a war
My era period.
This still leaves a bitter taste in my mouth, and I still feel like the NBA screwed the Knicks.
6:15 Tim Hardaway was telling like a MFA 😂😂😂
Before moping the floor with charlie ward 😂😂😂
I just found out about all of this because I had Charlie Ward on my 2k Eras team lol
van gundy was and/or probably was 100% honest about how he felt and hopefully the others were seriously
Clear footage
This was greatest rivalry during this time NY v Miami! Benedict Riley
Mind you, the aftermath of this went into a federal court. The union argued that the way the suspensions were handed out violated the CBA. The union lost, the Knicks got the brunt of the suspensions and never recovered.
I always thought all of those suspensions the Knicks received were unfair. In a way it allowed Miami to win that series.
They made the finals in 99
@@BENJIBKNY That series, they never recovered.
Ahhh those were the days
such 90's ties
Back when there was true hatred. Now, the guys just hold hands and hug and sing campfire songs........
The Knicks will be back tonight 😏
Growing up i used to watch ESPN with my brother and it was enjoyable and we didnt even watch games. Especially with Stuart Scott. Boomshakalaka!
This '97 Knicks team was the best shot at beating the Bulls. Shame LJ screwed it up. All he had to do was walk away satisfied with a 3-1 lead.
Ward had that coming, I'd say.
in ALL honesty i really really HATE ward + i got nothing against brown + ward boxed out not thinking anything of how he did it + browm didn't flip him just 2 flip him
the boxing out of ward was a bit over from the usual box out so yeah cant blame brown on this. way back on the 90s o pnpy saw the throw, now i know why 😅
Ah the good ol days
Charlie Ward like 🤷🏾♂️ “Woooaaaaah”
C. Ward had to Super- Sports Career ..
At Fla St. nd NBA ..
NYK first nd Only Franchise to draft Heisman.
Welcome NBA hardcore matches !
We were robbed of playing the Bulls that year! Still crying over it !
Would’ve been a dope series! New York probably would’ve won it!
@@terucks No they wouldn't. Knicks were never beating an MJ-led Bulls team regardless of any fight with the Heat.
@@tevinsherrill5653 I wouldn't know. Those Knicks seemed to be even better than those who reached the Finals a couple years later; after years and years of team building, they had pretty much everything: experience and youth, strength and talent, starting five and bench depth. As a lover of this game, that missing series is maybe my biggest regret ever.
@@terucks The Knicks would not have won that series. It would have went to 6 or 7 games. The Bulls
would have won it. Because, the Knicks were know for turning the ball over alot.
That Knicks team would have smoked Jordan's Bulls.
That was the deepest Knicks team of the 90s, possibly ever.
Front office knew what was up.
I wish ESPN would bring this type of reporting back
isaac austin was also on the 92 jazz who went to round 3
The 1990s was yesterday 2023 is today we move forward
so why you watching this vid? lol
@@soramirez5473😂💯
But yesterday is better than today.
Lebron fears this era
@Midwest Mall that's NOT LBJ mentality. U had to be a aggressive person back then but now u don't have to
@Midwest Mall jealous? How? LBJ isn't aggressive NOW in a softer era than MJ era. MJ era was the MOST successful (popular) era in the NBA, even more so than the NFL. Now the NBA can barely compete with NFL. That said, when LBJ was called to be aggressive during the DAL series, he wasn't. He got shut down by JJ Barrera & Jason Terry, grant it he is a lot better today
the best era + or era's were the 50's + 60's led by the goats tied being wilt chamberlain + bill russell
PJ Brown was the quietest enforcer in the nba and no one fucked with him
Hardaway Snitching
I said the same thing lol
🔥
Heat VS Knicks Rivalry
This was similar to how the spurs and lakers would take turn eliminating each other in the playoffs form 99-04
Though the difference is the Spurs and Lakers would usually go on to win the championship after eliminating each other. The Knicks and Heat didn't.
@@pomerlain8924 lol true.. but we had MJ in our way.. and our own tempers..
I would compare it to how the Lakers and kings used to fight in the early 2000s
the 01 lakers went 15-1 not facing legends like west bird johnson jordan jabbar robertson chamberlain + russell
@2.29 3pt field goals. Man alots changed
Mount Zion will break the Patrick Ewing curse in ny
Real Basketball!
charles smith also went to the clippers in that trade
I am a DIE HARD Lakers fan, but John Starks is one of my favorite players of all time.
Mr. 0-11 game 6 1994 against Houston. He sucks
willie anderson was on the 95 spurs who went to round 3
Dang! If only the Knicks played against the Bulls in the conference finals. Smh that series would be a dog fight!
the bulls would've won 4-1
@@youtuber3328 nah that series would have gone 7 games but the knicks did the knick thing and shot themselves in the foot
@@juanfigueroa9148 you make sense but i'll stick with 4-1
@@juanfigueroa9148 no way you are dreaming ….. 6 at the most . They owned the knicks by that time and the heat had Rodman
This made the Knicks lose this series.
I did NOT know, that Buck Williams could still dunk in 1997!
Still haven't forgiven Stern for suspending the whole Knicks team for this fight. I get suspending participants in the fight but suspending Ewing a game for just wondering around the court during the commotion sucked. Yes, I know the rule exists but could have suspended him for regular season game next year rather than playoff game the way they did in MLB when Alomar spat on the umpire.
Hardaway wit the dry snitch LIVE on the air!….🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
PJ brown tossing ward like salad. 😂🤣
Is Charlie Ward ok? He got flipped on his head
@Coloredspaces
Back when basketball was still a physical sport. The NBA today is soft. If Jordan played in todays league, he’d be a MONSTER because nobody would be allowed to touch him.
1:57 larry shouldn't be grabbing alonzo like that, might start a fight next year