🙌🏽 I’ve recently upgraded the ground sheet to dyneema. Not 100% necessary but I wanted a more waterproof ground sheet then Tyvek. I also use it as keeping the inside of my back dry. Multipurpose. I might post a video about it soon. Enjoy your setup.
Thank you so much for this. I was just considering this exact setup (well, pinon version of the bivy for more mesh) and wondering if the spacing of the interior d-rings would work well. Question answered!
Since you already have/ are using a floor, you should be using a pure bug net bivy. That way, you save more weight and avoid the slippery slop of sliding on certain terrain.
So far 13 days in on the Colorado Trail the Bivy with polycro is working great. Not sliding. Plus the Bivy is a bit warmer than a big Bivy on those cold mornings. Thanks for checking out the video.
The bathtub floor of the bivy (silnylon) will slip on tyvek regardless… tyvek is a very slippery material. If you look through online forums, most people would recommend not using a groundsheet since he already has a bathtub floor on the bivy.
Thanks for chiming in. So, I switched the ground sheet to a dyneema ground sheet. I’m not sure why you wouldn’t bring a ground sheet when using a tarp. When the ground is saturated I like to toss the ground sheet over top of it to have a dry little space - it’s priceless. Plus the dyneema ground sheet is a few ounces. So many uses for it as well. Cheers!
Dude! That’s a badass setup Andyonthemountain! Will that bivy keep out tarantulas? What about angry hummingbirds? Is it wide enough for proper technique while midnight piss jugging?? Do you think that gingers can get sunburn under that tarp or does it block out enough UV??
Does the dyneema material from this shelter absorb the odor from flatulence at the same ratio as standard nylon sil shelters? In my experience, nylon sil shelters have to be thrown away after approximately 62 dehydrated meals consumed on backcountry trips. Henceforth, solo trekkers can get a full 62 nights under a shelter, while couples typically only get 31 nights under the shelter before the shelter must be thrown away for potential safety concerns. The absorbed methane into the fabrics and materials of shelters from backcountry meal induced flatulence is a serious hazard that is rarely talked about in outdoor community. One morning, you may go to light up your stove and the entire shelter explodes and kills everyone in the immediate vicinity. I presume that this is the number 2 cause of forest fires in the western U.S. just behind lighting strikes? If the shelter is setup up in windy areas, sometimes the life expectancy of the shelter may be increased passed the 62 meal quota, but exact windspeed to meal ratios are still being calculated and are debated by the scientific and research community. Based off of the weave structure of the dyneema, and the naturally hydophobic nature of the fabric, I would estimate that this structure may make it passed the highly sought after 200 dehydrated meal quota before it must be decommissioned. Without proper field studies performed that limit the extraneous variables in the experiments, it would be hard to come up with an exact calculation to verify my estimated 200 meal quota hypothesis on this structure. Do you have an educated hypothesis on this matter based off of your ample field experience with this shelter?
Hi, my hypothesis based off the experience with this shelter is to live a little Timmy! Also what about Ramen dinners? Or maybe I bring a sandwich and don't eat dehydrated. Now that's going to change the whole systematic approach to this. Lot's of variables and so many farts to be had. Enjoy those smelly nights. :)
@@AndyOnTheMountain I’m a square guy, I like to customize the shelter to the weather I’m anticipating. Most of the time I just do a pyramid and like you said, use my umbrella as my door.
I also love tarps. But they do have limitations. If I know I will be spending most of my time above the tree line or in exposed areas, then I think the MLD trailstar is the greatest shaped tarp out there.
Exact setup I use. You have good taste.
🙌🏽 I’ve recently upgraded the ground sheet to dyneema. Not 100% necessary but I wanted a more waterproof ground sheet then Tyvek. I also use it as keeping the inside of my back dry. Multipurpose. I might post a video about it soon. Enjoy your setup.
Looks like Mayflower Gulch. One of my favorite winter spots.
Yes, Mayflower. What an amazing spot and quick hike in.
@@AndyOnTheMountain Was going to ask where this is - really beautiful. Thanks for the video.
Thank you so much for this. I was just considering this exact setup (well, pinon version of the bivy for more mesh) and wondering if the spacing of the interior d-rings would work well. Question answered!
I love this setup! I used it this summer when I biked the Colorado trail, definitely recommend.
Since you already have/ are using a floor, you should be using a pure bug net bivy. That way, you save more weight and avoid the slippery slop of sliding on certain terrain.
So far 13 days in on the Colorado Trail the Bivy with polycro is working great. Not sliding. Plus the Bivy is a bit warmer than a big Bivy on those cold mornings. Thanks for checking out the video.
The bathtub floor of the bivy (silnylon) will slip on tyvek regardless… tyvek is a very slippery material. If you look through online forums, most people would recommend not using a groundsheet since he already has a bathtub floor on the bivy.
Thanks for chiming in. So, I switched the ground sheet to a dyneema ground sheet. I’m not sure why you wouldn’t bring a ground sheet when using a tarp. When the ground is saturated I like to toss the ground sheet over top of it to have a dry little space - it’s priceless. Plus the dyneema ground sheet is a few ounces. So many uses for it as well. Cheers!
Dude! That’s a badass setup Andyonthemountain! Will that bivy keep out tarantulas? What about angry hummingbirds?
Is it wide enough for proper technique while midnight piss jugging??
Do you think that gingers can get sunburn under that tarp or does it block out enough UV??
Does the dyneema material from this shelter absorb the odor from flatulence at the same ratio as standard nylon sil shelters? In my experience, nylon sil shelters have to be thrown away after approximately 62 dehydrated meals consumed on backcountry trips. Henceforth, solo trekkers can get a full 62 nights under a shelter, while couples typically only get 31 nights under the shelter before the shelter must be thrown away for potential safety concerns. The absorbed methane into the fabrics and materials of shelters from backcountry meal induced flatulence is a serious hazard that is rarely talked about in outdoor community. One morning, you may go to light up your stove and the entire shelter explodes and kills everyone in the immediate vicinity. I presume that this is the number 2 cause of forest fires in the western U.S. just behind lighting strikes? If the shelter is setup up in windy areas, sometimes the life expectancy of the shelter may be increased passed the 62 meal quota, but exact windspeed to meal ratios are still being calculated and are debated by the scientific and research community. Based off of the weave structure of the dyneema, and the naturally hydophobic nature of the fabric, I would estimate that this structure may make it passed the highly sought after 200 dehydrated meal quota before it must be decommissioned. Without proper field studies performed that limit the extraneous variables in the experiments, it would be hard to come up with an exact calculation to verify my estimated 200 meal quota hypothesis on this structure. Do you have an educated hypothesis on this matter based off of your ample field experience with this shelter?
Hi, my hypothesis based off the experience with this shelter is to live a little Timmy! Also what about Ramen dinners? Or maybe I bring a sandwich and don't eat dehydrated. Now that's going to change the whole systematic approach to this. Lot's of variables and so many farts to be had. Enjoy those smelly nights. :)
I so much prefer a tarp a tent.
It just makes sense- it’s smaller, lighter and so versatile. Do you have a preference in a square tarp VS non square?
@@AndyOnTheMountain I’m a square guy, I like to customize the shelter to the weather I’m anticipating. Most of the time I just do a pyramid and like you said, use my umbrella as my door.
I also love tarps. But they do have limitations. If I know I will be spending most of my time above the tree line or in exposed areas, then I think the MLD trailstar is the greatest shaped tarp out there.