Mini-roundabouts [common mistakes & demo ride]
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- A mixture of a demonstration ride and explanation on mini-roundabouts, and examples from lessons highlighting common mistakes and good practice in preparation for your module 2 DVSA DAS test.
Passing your DAS DVSA motorcycle module 1 test & module 2 test can be a challenge, as there's so many road safety and machine control procedures to remember when learning to ride a motorbike. Take your time to practise the new skills you learn whilst on your motorcycle lessons.
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See you soon,
Leanna
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Passed my mod 2 yesterday. Your videos really helped me. I could hear your voice in my head say "don't dwordle" 😂
😂😂😂 excellent, well done. Haha, use the power and enjoy it (when safe to do so) 😊👍🏻
Im hoping the same
And another gr8 vid keep m commin plz also keep rockin 👍👍👍🔥✌️
Thanks Craig 😊
Treating them like a T junction is great advice Leanna , makes them more understandable for new road users. Truth be told, most mini roundabouts were T junctions, until a bit of paint was added. Another reason why a signal/life saver may not be necessary leaving the mini roundabout, is that you rarely steer/ Lean left to exit, you merely straighten up. Another very useful video.
Thanks Graham. Good point about the indicators. Hadn't really thought of it like that 👍
Hopefully going to be back on the road late Summer, after a break of >insert drumroll here< 15 years! 😲 I'm aware of the high accident stats for returning bikers, so I don't mind relearning some basics. Great vid Leanna, thanks and ride safe.
Welcome back! Good plan to do your homework and get those skills back on form. Take it steady and be safe 😊 Thanks for taking the time to comment.
You will love it and wish you had done it earlier 😂😂. If you get a space then do a bike safe course, I ride thinking everything is out to get you not just other motorists but nature too but most of all enjoy the freedom 😂😂😂😂😂
Good Morning Leanna,
another great video, i watched this last night before going to work and then this morning i have spent going around roundabouts as many different ones as i could as you have given me roundabout fever 🤣 then i went to my car park to practice uturns etc
I finally found out why i had such a hard job using back brake only.. it was because it was too far down meaning away from my foot so i was having to put to much pressure which made me feel i was going to drop her at the stop.
so now i have made the brake pedal more level with just a slight dip and i adjusted the brake light and now i can do smooth stopping and no need for front brake help 🤣🤣
i had been watching so many different videos trying to work out what i was doing wrong ☺
watching your videos i could see it working but didn't realise that my brake peddle was in wrong place.
oh any i also sorted out the clutch lever it just needed tweaking slightly, just to give my that 2 to 3 finger grip and now my figure 8s and u turns are much better.
ops i need to take a breath 🤭and leave you to get out there and give your star students more lessons
so ride safe as usual and stay healthy
your not so stalky Kev 😂
Wow it sounds like you've had a few revelations! Well done for working all that out 😊 I'm so pleased it's better for you now. Sometimes the smallest tweak can make a big difference 👍Lovely to hear from you as always 😊 Thanks for the update 😎
Thanks Leanna, I am very happy learning and trying to work things out when I have been on a ride and think of the things that I could of done better!
I enjoyed sharing my updates with you and anyone that reads all the comments like I do! 😮oh I hope it’s not just me that reads all the comments people put on your channel 😂😂😂
Thanks again for your comments and especially your videos,
Ok best I get back to work and see how the workers are doing 😂
Good night
This is where I think the learner’s have probably not had much experience with driving full stop. They have to learn how the roads work and how selfish over driver’s are. I was always taught to expect the unexpected at all times. Again I admire how you can focus on the students and stay safe yourself not sure if I could do that and I’ve driven bikes, cars, and lorries. Even done close protection work. Hats off to you. 😂😂😂😂😂
@ed7540 If you are an instructor observing 'trainees' whatever you are training, be it riding, or eg Scuba diving, it has to become 'second nature' so you don't really have to think about it, as your main focus is always on your students. To be fair, I thought the trainees did very well.
Hi Ed. Thanks for your comment. The majority of students already drive a car. The biggest challenge though is those who don't, as you're right, it's hard to learn the rules of the road and controls of a bike at the same time. Hence we start on small roads and work our way up it bigger ones! Thanks for your kind words, much appreciated 😊
Another great video Leanna.
I've just bought my first " big boy bike " today. A Honda NT650V-2 Deauville. What a difference to my little 125cc Michigan. Lol😂
Haha great stuff. I hope you're enjoying it 😊
@@motorcyclelessonsuk absolutely loving it. Rode it home from Dundee yesterday, via St. Andrews and the many twisting roads of East Neuk in Fife. 😁
@@stuartmacdonald9289 that sounds wonderful 😊 Funnily enough I was just talking about how much I loved riding in Scotland 😊 Make the most and enjoy your newfound power 😁
@@motorcyclelessonsuk next on my bucket list is the NC500. Can't wait. 😁
I never knew how much I was operating the clutch and using the indicators at the same time until you mentioned it in your previous video. 🤣
Haha yes, it's odd when you start analysing what you do. I recently realised I repeatedly tap down for 1st gear a good 3-4 times to avoid neutral when I'm stopping. Didn't even know I did that until a student kept hitting neutral and I was helping them avoid it too.
@@motorcyclelessonsuk I have the same 'problem' as your other half.... I keep cancelling the indicators even though they are not flashing.... I guess there are worse habits, 🙂
Loving your videos and thanks for sharing your Knowledge, i cannot wait to get rid of the L Plates as they seem like red rag to a bull.
Haha you're right! I describe them as "after you" plates as so many cars will try to barge past or pull out on the L-plated bikes. It's a shame that there isn't more courtesy left in the driving world 🙄
Great video Leanna 👍
Thank you 😊
Cracking info as always! Do miss me lessons!
Time to come back and do your advanced 😉😊
@@motorcyclelessonsuk haha nice plug! Got much availability?? I apologise now I’ve got extremely loud pipes!!
Hi Leanna just a point on U turns at mini roundabouts, on Hallams lane Arnold the entrance to Wilkinsons carpark you are directed to U turn at the mini about as apposed to turning right into carpark by highways sign on lamp post, I think most people ignore this and turn right anyway. Who would you claim off then in an accident? I did my ERS with you and I think your post are worth watching even for the more experienced riders thank you
Hi Steve, that IS strange! I've just Google mapped it to have a look. I think it would have to be taken into account as a traffic signs and direction instruction, and you'd be sensible to provide photographic evidence if the issue at hand was "I didn't expect them to do a u-turn therefore I pulled out on them"... but observations and anticipation should also give an idea that someone isn't just turning right. Thanks for staying tuned to the channel 😊
Hey another great video as always I have a question about tests if you don't mind if I pass my test on a automatic scooter can I ride a semi automatic bike anyway love you to the moon and back xxx kkkk
Hi there, exactly which semi-automatic bike are you referring to? Thanks 😊
Regarding doing a U-turn on the mini-roundabouts, is it a MUST NOT in the highway code, i.e. an illegal manoeuvre, or just a recommendation?
Hello, the highway code says "avoid doing u-turns". If it is stated as such it is not backed up by law but can be taken to consideration if you have an accident whilst doing one. Hope that helps, thanks, Leanna
@@motorcyclelessonsuk Great, thanks for the reply, most people probably only do them if they're lost/miss a turn anyways but it always pays to be vigilant!
Hi Leanna, very helpful video as always. I was wondering what your thoughts would be on navigating the mini-roundabout near Moor Bridge as you’ve come over the rail bridge with Bestwood behind you. There are two man-hole covers that are tight to the painted area on the roundabout, and when turning right at the moment I feel the safest thing to do is take the turn wide out to the left to avoid these (especially in bad weather) but of course as you mentioned, turning right you’d keep in tight?
From the look of it on Google Maps (I don't often ride down there), you should be able to keep it tight to the mini roundabout and go to the right of the second manhole cover. This is assuming the bridge is behind you? Or have I got my orientation wrong?!
Thanks Leanna I’ll give that a go next time, and yes you’ve got your orientation just fine.
You mentioned a Carpal Tunnel operation in a previous video, can I ask if that was caused through riding? (I've had some problems with my left hand which I wondered maybe could have been caused by using the clutch - I have 'Large' hands, but short fingers, if that makes any sense?)
Hi Paul, mine was caused by heavy and prolonged use of a chainsaw in my late 20s. Anything that causes vibrations will exacerbate it. So motorcycle riding didn't help the issue. Mine is all sorted now as I've had operations on both hands. Thanks, Leanna
@@motorcyclelessonsuk
mine was caused by heavy and prolonged use of a chainsaw in my late 20s.
Now, that really would make an interesting video.....👍
@@paullee6663 😂😂😂
Hi Leanna, Karl from Jersey….I have a question to ask you, tonight when chatting with a mate about how I need to improve my right hand junction turns, ie, slowing down using my back brake and putting down my left foot……he rolled his eyes and said, utter nonsense to me, you never put your left foot down….you always put your right foot down………mmm…..I disagreed with this notion, due to back brake slow speed to a stop, or holding bike on back brake……he said…..as an advanced ex police motorbike rider, he and everyone was taught to always put your right foot down and never your left…..I am confused, I have always been taught, left foot down….can you shed any advice on this…thank you
Hi Karl, the easiest answer to this is that it's totally up to you to choose which foot you want to put down. I would recommend taking yourself to a car park and practise both. Practise finishing your stop on the rear to give a super smooth controlled stop with your left foot down. Then practise trying to achieve the same using your front brake and putting your right foot down (this is harder because of the weight transfer so you need to be very gentle especially at the end of the stop). It is possible to do a hill start with the front brake applied, but it's trickier than using the rear for obvious reasons. There is no hard and fast right or wrong here. You should be able to do both comfortably so that should the situation arise you can choose how you want to stop and with which brake. So practise both and make an informed decision, knowing you have the skill to do either successfully 😊
@@motorcyclelessonsuk hi Leanna, thank so much for taking the the time to reply to my question, indeed I shall practice this each time I go out for a run on my bike, I try to spend 20 mins in a local car park going through a few things….funny in all my time riding it was drummed into me, left foot down….but as you remark, things change on the road, camber and up hill for examples….I stop using my front brake, gentle squeeze, then as I tail off the front brake I introduce the back brake only…coming to a gentle stop with my left foot slowly coming down, I then tend to hold bike if a slope, with my right foot….I’ll give it a go the way you suggest and see how I get on….thanks again, huge help you have been m thanks ..Karl
@@karlhoward2737 we do train people to stop with their left foot down, but it's also good to be able to stop with your right foot down too if you need to 😊. You're very welcome, always happy to help.
Dont forget the difference between a raised one and a flat painted one.
They are treated the same whether flat or raised.
@@motorcyclelessonsuk check your high way code
@@eastlondon666 below is the section on mini roundabouts. Please highlight to us where it differentiates between rules for raised and rules for flat mini-roundabouts.
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Mini-roundabouts. Approach these in the same way as normal roundabouts. All vehicles MUST pass round the central markings except large vehicles which are physically incapable of doing so. Remember, there is less space to manoeuvre and less time to signal. Avoid making U-turns at mini-roundabouts. Beware of others doing this.
Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10(1) & 16(1)
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At double mini-roundabouts treat each roundabout separately and give way to traffic from the right.
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Multiple roundabouts. At some complex junctions, there may be a series of mini-roundabouts at each intersection. Treat each mini-roundabout separately and follow the normal rules.
@@motorcyclelessonsuk you can partially go over a flat painted mini roundabout as opposed to going around a raised mini roundabout.
@@eastlondon666 where does it say this specifically in the highway code? This is also vehicle dependent: if you are riding or driving a vehicle capable of going around the painted circle, you should go around it. Going over the painted circle on a motorcycle test where it is possible to go around it can and does result in a fail, because it is a MUST in the highway code.
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