FYI I've learned from later reels than this that Mr. Marchant did not record reels like this in the radio station, but rather at tapped directly from the line at Northrup Auditorium that went to the radio station. So essentially he was recording these live at the auditorium. Pretty cool.
Thanks for your effort in making available this exciting performance, which has some interesting dynamics in the development of the opening movement. It apparently was not a live performance.
@@MarchantTapeArchive When people remove applause you can tell, but here the same acoustic remained for a second or two. It was quite routine to present radio broadcasts like this. There is also the problem of canned applause for a studio performance, which usually sounds phony.
The only Eroica by Mitropoulos known to date, was with the New York Philharmonic live in Athens on October 2. 1955. An invaluable treasure. Please make more Mitropoulos broadcasts available. Thank you a million times .
There is another live Eroica in New York from 1949. It has appeared on a Urania disc pairing it with a work by Rabaud. Inferior performance to the 1955 one, though, in my opinion.
You should contact Andrew Rose of Pristine Classical. He's a master at remastering old recordings. Then he could release them on his label. Assuming of course, that these performances still do not belong to the Minnesota Orchestra.
I will eventually donate these to something like the University of Minnesota - they already have a large collection of Minneapolis/Minnesota Symphony related items. I believe these things like this should stay in the public domain.
@@MarchantTapeArchive Oh okay! I was just thinking of the best options in terms of sound restoration. I believe that a lot of the releases on Pristine are public domain.
I'm just in the first movement of this fantastic performance, for which thank you immensely. I'm noticing that the VU meters are barely moving -- was this tape recorded at an unusually low volume? Also noticing some deep rumble occasionally - was the venue subject to traffic noises? -- P.S. - are you sure about the speeds? Looks to me like the reels are all spinning at 15 ips.
Thanks for listening/watching! Yeah you're right it's all at 15 IPS. I go through so many reels that I've already forgotten why I thought one of them was at 7 1/2. I edited the description. Regarding the VUs - yes many of the recordings this old are very quiet - though not all. I think it has a lot to do with the recorder. This performance was likely recorded on a Brush Soundmirror, maybe even a prototype. I do have to amplify it quite a bit to get it up to normal RUclips volumes, which can introduce a lot of noise like in the first movement. Traffic noises - I don't actually know! I've never been to the venue. Only drove through Minnesota as part of a midwest baseball stadium tour :) The Marchants all ended up in California in the late 60s and 70s, which is where I got the collection from. Where are you hearing the rumble (timestamps)? I usually do a high pass filter to remove rumble but something might have gotten through.
@@MarchantTapeArchive Most of it is throughout the first movement, peaking at about 42 Hertz. There are also rhythmic thumps, and a pretty strong 50 Hertz hum. I filtered out the hum and then attenuated everything below 50 Hertz, which got rid of it. A slight treble boost and bass reduction balanced it out for me, resulting in excellent sound. Another interesting thing - there is no applause at the end, and no sounds of an audience that I can hear. Was this performed solely for the microphone?
@@CamhiRichard Given the outro announcement I think it's possible that it was a special recording just for the NBC broadcast, and no audience. But it's hard to say. The reel boxes typically have very little (sometimes nothing) on them and I have to play detective and piece it together. Marchant's surviving daughter has helped me a bit, but these performances and tapes are 70+ years old so memory only helps so much. Kind of the fun of going through these reels, but it also can be a pain when I don't know what it is or it is only say the 2nd movement with no sign of other movements.
@@MarchantTapeArchive I misspoke about the hum - it was actually at about 62 Hertz. Probably mains hum at 60, playing a bit fast. It's a very fast performance anyway! As my "perfect pitch" has long since gone by the boards, I don't really notice if the resulting pitch is a bit above A440.
Notable,muchas gracias
Thank you very much.
FYI I've learned from later reels than this that Mr. Marchant did not record reels like this in the radio station, but rather at tapped directly from the line at Northrup Auditorium that went to the radio station. So essentially he was recording these live at the auditorium. Pretty cool.
Thanks for your effort in making available this exciting performance, which has some interesting dynamics in the development of the opening movement. It apparently was not a live performance.
Yeah the lack of applause is interesting - but it also could have been edited out and broadcast from tape later. Who knows but glad I found this reel!
@@MarchantTapeArchive When people remove applause you can tell, but here the same acoustic remained for a second or two. It was quite routine to present radio broadcasts like this. There is also the problem of canned applause for a studio performance, which usually sounds phony.
The only Eroica by Mitropoulos known to date, was with the New York Philharmonic live in Athens on October 2. 1955. An invaluable treasure. Please make more Mitropoulos broadcasts available. Thank you a million times .
Thanks for listening! Lots more Mitropoulos coming. Be sure to check out all my other recordings of his here: ruclips.net/video/08igbAjX-l4/видео.html
There is another live Eroica in New York from 1949. It has appeared on a Urania disc pairing it with a work by Rabaud. Inferior performance to the 1955 one, though, in my opinion.
You should contact Andrew Rose of Pristine Classical. He's a master at remastering old recordings. Then he could release them on his label. Assuming of course, that these performances still do not belong to the Minnesota Orchestra.
I will eventually donate these to something like the University of Minnesota - they already have a large collection of Minneapolis/Minnesota Symphony related items. I believe these things like this should stay in the public domain.
@@MarchantTapeArchive Oh okay! I was just thinking of the best options in terms of sound restoration. I believe that a lot of the releases on Pristine are public domain.
I'm just in the first movement of this fantastic performance, for which thank you immensely. I'm noticing that the VU meters are barely moving -- was this tape recorded at an unusually low volume? Also noticing some deep rumble occasionally - was the venue subject to traffic noises? -- P.S. - are you sure about the speeds? Looks to me like the reels are all spinning at 15 ips.
Thanks for listening/watching! Yeah you're right it's all at 15 IPS. I go through so many reels that I've already forgotten why I thought one of them was at 7 1/2. I edited the description. Regarding the VUs - yes many of the recordings this old are very quiet - though not all. I think it has a lot to do with the recorder. This performance was likely recorded on a Brush Soundmirror, maybe even a prototype. I do have to amplify it quite a bit to get it up to normal RUclips volumes, which can introduce a lot of noise like in the first movement. Traffic noises - I don't actually know! I've never been to the venue. Only drove through Minnesota as part of a midwest baseball stadium tour :) The Marchants all ended up in California in the late 60s and 70s, which is where I got the collection from. Where are you hearing the rumble (timestamps)? I usually do a high pass filter to remove rumble but something might have gotten through.
@@MarchantTapeArchive Most of it is throughout the first movement, peaking at about 42 Hertz. There are also rhythmic thumps, and a pretty strong 50 Hertz hum. I filtered out the hum and then attenuated everything below 50 Hertz, which got rid of it. A slight treble boost and bass reduction balanced it out for me, resulting in excellent sound. Another interesting thing - there is no applause at the end, and no sounds of an audience that I can hear. Was this performed solely for the microphone?
@@CamhiRichard Given the outro announcement I think it's possible that it was a special recording just for the NBC broadcast, and no audience. But it's hard to say. The reel boxes typically have very little (sometimes nothing) on them and I have to play detective and piece it together. Marchant's surviving daughter has helped me a bit, but these performances and tapes are 70+ years old so memory only helps so much. Kind of the fun of going through these reels, but it also can be a pain when I don't know what it is or it is only say the 2nd movement with no sign of other movements.
@@MarchantTapeArchive I misspoke about the hum - it was actually at about 62 Hertz. Probably mains hum at 60, playing a bit fast. It's a very fast performance anyway! As my "perfect pitch" has long since gone by the boards, I don't really notice if the resulting pitch is a bit above A440.