Choosing your first Kart
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- Опубликовано: 26 ноя 2024
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I put together some general info on the different kart options/classes for those of you looking to buy your very first kart. I also included other things you need to consider and things you'll need after you buy your kart. I know the costs of the karts can vary but I'm trying to give you ballpark figures on them so you'll have an idea of what they are.
*The fuel cost I mentioned for the shifter was because I drove it a whole lot after getting it. I typically use around half a gas can (5 gallons per can including oil) worth of fuel for a full day (for me) driving it.
It's best to visit your local kart shop or talk to someone that's already in karting prior to buying a kart. Get their opinions, costs and feedback on which kart would be best for you given your specific situation.
Hope this helps you and congrats on your first kart!!!
**Big thanks to Dallas Karting Complex for giving me access to all of these different karts.**
(1:04) - A couple of things to consider
(2:39) - LO206
(6:31) - 100cc kart
(8:17) - TaG 125cc
(10:02) - DD2
(12:02) - Shifter
(14:38) - A other costs to consider
Hey, I’m trynna get into racing karts. Do you know anyone websites I can order from ?
Hey Pee Diddy, you can email mark@fullgasmotorsports.com or call/email DKC (info@dallaskartingcomplex.com) (972) 253-4100 - both can sell/ship you a kart. Tell them I referred you please.
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Do you know where I can buy electric indoor karts?
@@swagmzlf for commercial or personal?
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Corrections/clarifications:
-You can get parts for pretty much any kart online as long as the company isn't out of business and it's built after 2000 (there was a major change in kart rules and design between the 90's and the 00's). On that note, don't buy a kart made before 2000, it will not be competitive and you will never find parts. The only time you really need local parts suppliers is if you are going to race a season in the points and being out of the race for a day might ruin your season so you need parts IMMEDIATELY after a wreck or failure. Otherwise, like I said, getting parts online is fine and most of the most commonly worn parts (sprockets, chains, etc) are usually generic and interchangeable anyway.
-The "206" in LO206 stands for 206cc, the displacement of the engine. Now, why they chose to go with 206cc when even most rental karts are at least 270cc is a mystery to me. The LO206 is also a little hopped up so it makes about 8.5 or so horsepower just like a 270cc standard Honda GX270 in a rental kart, but the GX270 does have a wider powerband.
-In spite of being billed as "all equal" motors, LO206 does have a slight variance from the factory, but more importantly you can do head work on them and run them in a certain way that makes them faster. I've heard Kart City motors in particular are the fastest of these. They also run into problems with decent run time like the 2-strokes as the head of the LO206 will start to flex from heat cycling and it drastically reduces power. I like the spirit of the LO206, but IMO the execution is poor. I'd rather go with a KA100 for far more speed and not too much more cost or maintenance.
-The reason the 100cc KA100/VLR tires last longer is because they also run Evinco Blues like the LO206. It's only slightly slower than a 125cc TAG on equal tires even though the peak power is only 2/3 due to how narrow of a range the 125cc TAG motors make peak power.
-If anyone is curious, the name Touch and Go (TAG) refers to the electric start mechanism. In prior decades karts were usually direct drive and required a push start either by having someone push you in the pit or running and jumping in your kart. There were also external starter motors where a battery powered starter would be inserted into the crank of the engine and then removed once it started.
-The biggest difference between the 100cc and 125cc karts is the tires run and that's the biggest reason for lap time differences. 100cc is much more budget friendly and much easier on your ribs. Once you switch to a 125cc with Evinco Reds you will need to be in good physical shape to handle the G forces as lateral grip gets ridiculous. Another important note is that Evinco Blues can stay competitive through several races, but Evinco Reds will drop off over the course of a single race day. If you aren't a millionaire that's happy to throw money away, I'd recommend going for the 100cc like a KA100 or VLR depending on which is most popular at your track. In all honesty, the Evinco Blues are the best balance of keeping speed through the corners but still being able to slide enough that you really need to drive it. Reds will also wear out your chassis faster as the increased grip makes it flex more and is more likely to bend it or mechanically work the frame until it stiffens up and won't handle well anymore (karts rely on flex to handle in place of traditional suspension and also to lift the inside tire in place of a differential like a car or most other 4 wheel vehicles).
-Shifter horsepower varies based on which shifter motor you have and the tuning as it's usually not a sealed class. Stock Honda CR125 is usually regarded as about 36, but it depends on if you have a 99 or 01 cylinder and the work done to it. A euro-spec KZ2 is up to 50 HP.
-On the chain lube, I highly recommend the Motul C2 or C4, especially if it's a 100cc or 125cc TAG as they run the smallest chains. Most other lubes I've used or seen others use just don't protect the chain and sprockets enough, but the C2/C4 do a great job lubricating and don't make as big of a mess as some lubes. Motul 2T is also the 2-stroke oil I'd recommend. I probably sound like a Motul salesman now, and I'm sure there are other good brands for either, but this has just been my experience and what I've been recommended by kart tuners and seasoned drivers.
All in all, if you want to go significantly faster than rentals while still being cost-conscious, go with a 100cc 2-stroke class. More than fast enough to really feel fast, but doesn't cost you thousands to run it every year competitively.
DerekSiems some regions KA and TAG125 run same tires and the gap is pretty close. Frankly, I think that they should allow the tag100 classes to run around 10 lbs lighter (since there is no radiator, and fluids, etc required). This would bring the gap even closer but also make it more affordable and more simple maintenance.
I'm guess you know about getting a kid into Karting. Anything I can read?
Thanks for the info mate!!❤️
All that is correct. People vastly underestimate fitness in karting.
Four stroke racing is best bang for the buck and skills.
@@FloppyxPancake Going to the track you plan to run and talking to employees is always the best way to go. Try to go on a weekday if you can as tracks are always less busy, or at least early on a weekend before the crowds show up (especially if the track has rentals, too).
The overarching thing is also what your goal is.
If you're trying to breed an F1 champion, they need to be in "kid karts" starting at about 5, but also keep in mind that to be a pro driver being a small body type is basically a requirement, so if you and/or your wife are both 6'+ with a stout build, odds are your kid won't even fit in a pro race car when he grows up. Furthermore, grooming a champion race driver and climbing the racing ladder is deep 6-figures expensive before sponsor money can be expected and very time consuming for the whole family as travel to national events takes a lot of work even if the money is there. Know what you're getting into if this is what you have in mind.
If you just want to get him to learn driving young and take it more seriously as he gets older, try to find a rental track that has kid rentals for his age/height (minimum age/height varies by track). If fundamentals is all you're looking for, just getting seat time in a normal rental is the way to go, privately owned karts are much more expensive to own and run. The rule of thumb is that if it requires a full-face helmet, that's your faster karts, not the birthday party putt putts.
If you're trying to make this a father/son bonding thing first and foremost, you could potentially run a used privately owned kart (CIK or competition is usually what they're called) with a Harbor Freight Predator motor and rental kart tires pretty cheap. He won't be able to race on that setup, but you can run laps for a pretty reasonable cost and it will give you a chance to spend time together working on the kart. If he really takes to it and the budget is there, you can always consider moving up to an actual competitive class later.
Feel free to clarify or ask more questions.
that was one great tutorial. I am 72 and am going carting, and yes I have listened, my car will be a slower cart...got to learn how to walk before one flys! thanks again
You should try to look up Ken Engelking, he's 79 and still running karting league races and was actually race instructing until recently (left more due to issues with the company than needing to retire). Just keep up with exercise, Ken had a heart attack on track when he first started back a few years ago and needed something like a triple bypass heart surgery. Karting is great exercise and a lot of fun, but definitely check with your doctor and ease into it physically.
A few years ago had a guy about your age walked up to me before race. " I am kicking your ass today junior!" Did really not start karting till mid 30's Did 3.5 seasons as a track marshall . Was a much better Arrive and Drive racer than a kart owner! Really need to fire my mechanic 😁🏁
That is great you're going karting! If you can do it, who cares what the age is. I got started in karting a little later in life but I'm starting to figure out that we should spend our lives doing more of what we love and what interests us. Good luck to you and thanks for watching!
@@IllegalAlienRacing It's a great sport! There was this new guy 7 years ago. June was our 3th Montreal GP! He ran me off track once and was not looking forward to the apology to me. Found out 2 years ago it was no accident! Called him a few bad names punched him in the arm and that was the end of it! All sorts of fun had after the checkered flag drops!
Spent a few nights sleeping at Mosport. Starts to get chilly overnight this time of year! Sadly my first missed year in 15 years . Stupid medical crap but will get some seat time within 4 weeks!
Go get them bill
I'm 55 now, used to have a race cart when I was 9! What a different beast it was. Found a picture of it, it was simple, just the basics. Used to race at Rick Rack Go Kart Track, somewhere in PA. We had to ad led to it because I was too small. It was fun as I recall, good father, son time, If you can afford it.
I sent my Fifteen (16 now) year old son into the lion pit this year. After his first year of racing in the 125cc restricted Honda, we made the switch to the IAME 175cc motor. He managed to finish second at the SKUSA pro tour race in Utah a couple months ago. Top speed was 91.5 mph down the straight. Great video. Need more like it to grow the sport.
pro shifter ?
Everything Karting Yeah! Pro shifter 2. Looking forward to Vegas at the end of the year. If we can afford it, we will go to Indianapolis in August.
@@SilverStakcer so protour and supernats very cool. One of my friends is Race Liberante and he is first in the championship for Pro Shifter. 2
Everything Karting Yep! Race should be in pro 1. His times are up there and he can finish top 5 every time if nothing goes wrong.
Check out the crash video on my channel. 🏁🙈🏁
I have been wanting to find a video like this for a long time. Great video and lots of really awesome info. Subscribed!
Thanks so much for the excellent intro!!! I'm an older dad. I'm 54 and have 4 and 6 year-old boys. The oldest wants to go karting and the youngest will surely follow. I really appreciate the info.
I’m glad it helped! You also need a kart if you don’t already have one. It’s a great sport that a family can all do together. Good luck Sean!
@@IllegalAlienRacing Thanks! I do have a question about the kart I'd get for myself. I've raced motorcycles and bicycles in the past and done a fair amount of canyon racing in cars. My current daily driver is an M550i with 525 HP and I drive it to the limit when I'm on back roads in safe areas. But I've only driven entry-level karts (rentals and one borrowed racing one). I'd prefer to buy new and am aware of the price tags. I'm concerned that I'll buy an entry-level kart and rapidly get used to, and perhaps bored with, the performance. Based on your video I'm drawn to the DD2.
If I was just going to drive for fun I'd just go ahead and get one. (I saw the video of your first DD2 drive and, despite the cold track and tires it looked like fun.) But I want to make sure that my racing options remain open. In a typical senior or masters class, is a DD2 with paddle shifters OK, or would that require a different motor.
Thanks again for your willingness to help!
Sean
@@seankelly5471 - I'd go to the track nearest to you and find out what they race there. I agree, you might get bored eventually just turning laps alone and might want to race later on. KA100 or VLR100 might be good options. There seems to be tons of 206 racing as well so that should be an easy race to find.
Back in the 60's, my first kart had a Westbend 820, and ran on 105 octane Chevron "white pump" gas. I drove a Margay TNR TK single rail KT100 for Tom Nields in the 90's (he's considered by EKarting News as one of the 10 best karters ever). And now, at the young-ish age of 68, I think I want back into karting.
Good video👍. Several years ago when I was first getting into karting I was so lost. I came from a motocross background where you can buy several magazines and learn a lot and go to shops on the weekends to learn as well. In karting, there really isn't any publications in the USA and most shops are closed on the weekends because they are at the track. It ended up being a slow and expensive process to learn it all. I'd also add that some areas still have a KPV/KT 100 class. This would be probably after the 206 class but under the KA/VLR 100 (aka TAG100) class. These motors are getting very affordable since the class in some regions has died out. Also some wise words to find out what classes are supported and popular in your area. No one likes to race in a class with 3 people. The biggest problem karting suffers from is that rules and what is legal by certain organizations. ALL promoters get money and/or kick backs of some sort to only run certain tires, fuel, motors, etc. so do your research. You don't want to buy a $3500 new TAG 125 motor if your area doesn't allow it. The same can be said regarding tires. It sucks even more when your area has 3-4 different organizations and they all run different equipment and that is compounded when you do practice days and you are switching tires back and forth, etc. if it weren't for everyone trying to pad their own pockets instead of the long term growth of karting, karting would be a much much more popular sport. But people just continue to eat there own and it's a bummer (unless you are ultra rich).
Very well said! Thanks for taking the time to comment and contribute!
Had a different road to karting 1st time was in 70' then many years of bad karts on ok tracks. Found a really good indoor track and got 3 good years of practice. Started doing A+D outdoors. Then found another track and fell in love. Went from part time racer and got hired as a track marshall. Got to do a little bit of everything and the day I was left in charge of track was scary ! After a management change I bought my own kart. I. Suck as a mechanic and sadly the DNF champion ! Now in it for the laps and get to see lots of good racing and hang out with great people! If I finish and don't break anything I am happy! Plus at 50 the body has started to play tricks on me .
If you come from a motorcycle background you should be good to go. I got into karting with zero experience and started straight with a 250 shifter cart. I got second in my very first series I raised actually winning a few races and then the next series I raced I actually won the class and a few races. Coming from a Motocross background it was like second nature learning how to drive it and shift. If I had never done Motorsports I would have no clue what to do not to mention I wouldn't know how to handle the power. I remember when I first brought a 250 2 stroke I thought it was fast. Now after owning mini 4-stroke motocross bikes and street bikes it seems slow.
Also I'm more of the weekend warrior type now that just goes to the track to mess around and I run my shifter car on pump gas and tires last me forever. And it sucks to be competitive at higher levels of carting or any racing you have to buy so much stuff. Where is on a motocross bike I can win every weekend on 7 month old tires and a clapped out engine
That was as clear and concise a video about getting started into karting as i have ever seen. I used to race WKA on dirt tracks with the old Briggs flathead engines. I have always been interested in the different karts you discussed and you sure did make it easy to understand. Thank you for taking the time to help us understand the differences.
Thank you Lee for taking the time to watch, I’m glad it helped!
I had the chance to try a Rotax DD2 once, it was awesome... It felt like the F1 of karts world (only driven rental karts, max 13 hp ones before).
So if you had some experience with regular karts and you want to turn it up to 11, this would do it ;)
wow, you went from the very basic to one of the most advanced karts out there, must have been quite an experience
As a general guide, I would recommend a (good) second hand kart first and then as you have some race craft and experience (plenty of dings, off's and accidents) - 6 to 18 months, purchase a new kart (assuming a budget allows for it). Of course, if one doesn't have a budget for a new kart/frame, then one has to understand that running costs for karting is not cheap, replacement parts and tyres...
I Used to do karting and stopped because of financial reasons but now that I’m older I thought of getting back and do it in this video really helped
Great Job, telling the basics and the difference between each class.
We are just getting past the interested phase, starting to look at chassis and engine combos, and what class my 10 year old is going to start in.
We have a great support group around us, and have really enjoyed the comradary so far. Everyone has been very helpful so far.
Thank you again for this tutorial it's spot on to what I have heard so far.
Homie, the '206' in Lo206 is engine size man. 206cc.
You are correct
Who is correct is very smart
Google it homeslice. Lo206 makes 8 something horsepower. It's 206cc
@@savioncurls thought they made like 15
It isnt fast it has a rev limiter as fast as a 60cc
Honda gx160 5,5hp centrifugal clutch->honda cr125 shifter, at 11yrs old :) I remember my helmet being too big and rising up from the wind because the kart was so fast and at the end of the straight I couldnt see anything :D
206 is the cc (cubic centimetres) of the cylinder volume of the engine
Thank you for the info!
206 cc it's the cylinder volume, combustion chamber is on the head.
As my name indicates, youtube is broken and I can’t post original comments. I can only respond to existing comments.
Question: is it possible to start out with a 206 kart and upgrade it (engine swap) to run in a faster league once i have some seat time?
If possible, is it practical?
@@youtubeisbroken241 Yes, yes, and yes.
Good video, very informative. I am in the process of purchasing a kart. I am trying to decide which route to go. Thanks for the advice.
Just one point to add to ur excellent video. Know the dry weight of the Kart + ur weight , including gear, and factor in for the class u choose to run in. U don’t want to be giving away 25 lb to ur competition in a Kart. Power to weight is critical to be competitive .
what do you mean? do you have to run ballast if you are lighter?
Fantastic video dude. Really. So many people want to get into karting and there’s nothing out there but garbage. This was super informative. I raced at Willow Springs in the HPV class (which of course years later means something completely different!) and this is very up-to-date and informative. I now live in San Antonio and I’m looking to re-enter the sport 20 years later and your video really laid out my options. I appreciate it.
Thank you Nicholas for the great feedback, I'm glad it helped!
Good video, I’m 87 and am just getting into karting, this vid really helped thanks👍🏼
Thank you for taking the time to make this video - very informative!
I used to race in the NASCAR Street Stock Division in the N.E. US. The most fun I ever had in my life. I'd love to try this. I live in Cleveland Tennessee now.
My first kart is also a Briggs and Stratton Lo 206. It’s been a wonderful kart for me to learn my race craft and understand the importance of managing mechanics, and parts. Margay is my local dealer and their Ignite K3 package with the Briggs is a popular choice for folks around my home track.
You got it figure out sounds like. Same route I went and I agree with you.
Thanks for the primer, I felt like this was a good through guide to get me steered in the right direction.
Great video! I could spend all day ripping on all of those karts
Thanks for the awesome video. I'm 41 yrs. old....maybe too old for a career change just as a hobby I will do this. But I wanted my son to get interested in Motorsports and other things...
Awesome as usual! I heard mike watching it while I was working on my kart today. Had to get home and see it for myself!
I enjoy watching your videos
This was an excellent video. I just bought my first kart for my kids. Its nothing special but its a start.
We don't have a track but i know some places i can take it and avoid the authorities.
It will be a way for me to teach my kids how to drive. The best thing i ever did growing up was parking lot autocrosses and eventually racing at Bridgehampton Raceway. Unfortunately they killed the track.
Really looking forward to getting my kids out there.
Really great video man!!! Loved it.
I just got into it. got a compkart covert 3.0 with a Rotax 125 max Evo.
baptism by fire is an understatement. fractured 4 ribs because I had a cheap rib protector, absolutely no idea about how it even works. something blew in my engine last month, fuel started spraying out of exhaust blah blah blah. I managed to absolutely ruin it by not servicing. Biggest point to take away is to make sure you clean and service your kart regularly.
It was awesome ... I’m trying to move forward in the Karting world with my first very own kart soon.
Thank you Carlos!
This video and the information was extremely helpful. I've considered karting as a hobby and am clueless as to where to begin. Thank you for doing this video.
Good primer. Thanks for producing this. A real help. I roadrace bikes but am getting into karting to race with my daughter and finding info is not easy. Real info as opposed to marketing dribble.
I appreciate your kind words. I agree it’s hard to find karting info for beginners in one place.
I have been planning a return to karting after 10 years away from the sport. Thanks for a great video with lots of great content.
Thank you Frank! Glad you're getting back into it!
Excellent video, very informative. I'll be 64 in a couple weeks and most likely getting a cart this video really helped me out. Thank you very much. Have a great day.
That is great, you'll enjoy it! Let me know when you do and keep me informed how it's going.
Outstanding information and presentation . I have 2 IKF and 1 WKA championship from the 80s. Looking back at my age, and wanting to play around again, this video was great.
Overall, very well done video....factually correct, sincere, good examples of karts, informative, no ego, and pretty terrific ! Great job. I was an IKF national champion. Tim
Thank you so much Tim, I appreciate that!
I love watching carting, that was a great way to explain the classes in HP brakes and shifting
Great video. Great info Thanks for taking the time to put together info that is helpful to us newbies.
I am looking to go racing next year in Jackson MI. They have a dirt oval and a concrete road course.
I am leaning towards the dirt. I love sprint car racing but I do not have $75,000 to dump into a sprint car
so a kart should cure my bug to finally go racing.
I'm glad this helps inform you on some options. Yeah racing is expensive but I think you will be cured soon! Good luck and thank you for watching.
And good news Rich, it's been said comparable HP to weight ratios of F1 cars, sprint cars and of course NHRA stuff but that's a whole other planet. That's the ''bang for the buck'' that you get to ride something approaching those examples in racing cars, in a kart.
Good video with some great advice!! Best advice is to start locally and be very realistic with budget!
I got a 2017 401 chassie tonykart, fully race equipped running a 125cc PRD fireball engine, Its supposed to be over 30hp 2 months ago. It cost £1500.
The chassie is undamaged, engine needs running in. Since then, i bought front brakes, upgraded the tillet seat to a carbon fibre seat, padded that seat heavily, then covered it in black PU leather with green stitching. Then got an alfano, vib meter, electrics upgraded to solar power trickle charged battery with usb 5v output, 12v socket, voltmeter and grim reaper custom (green skullson black background and a death pic) decals. Pedals will be upgraded from OTK to CRG billet aluminium ones, because they look better, and a new rear plastic bumper. Those upgrades to fully pimped spec cost £1100. Its not race legal, but can run on 2 tracks near me, and one track holds club races where i can takepart. The 3rd track close wont allow my front brakes due to it being PFInternational. My kart was tuned there, by karttune, and serviced by them in last few weeks. Total cost was £2600. Then spent about £500 on tools, £100 for a cik fia tonykart racesuit, including shoes and gloves, and fitted bluetooth into my helmet so i can play music and make phonecalls while racing around, and have 1 gopro, and 2 cheap 4K action cams to get multiple angles...
To buy new, theres £9k+ there, i got a BARGAIN.
Some parts, carbon seat, pedals, bumper cost me £200 when i bought a CRG ex mbm team race kart, with x30snr, plus spares which included a 2nd kart missing an engine. Sold the crg x30snr for £1200, kept the spares... my mate who bought that got a HUGE bargain too, the engines worth £900 alone on ebay.
So spare kart just requires an engine, parts swapped for the otk originals are good, so that will cost -£300 . Thats £300 pure profit btw, before i put an engine on it, and have a fully race spec crg kart... if i get an engine for £300, its a free kart. Total cash spent is £2800 after taking that 300 profit off costs.
I raced with Woodbridge Kart Club & WKA for 15 years mostly at Summit Point Raceway . Woodbridge was an Enduro club which we ran all Road courses . Sadly things have changed to more of the shifter sit up karts than our laydowns . I don't know if you all have laydown karts in Texas so my comment is pretty much moot point . We now have more sit up sprints so your clip is good for the folks looking to race & there are more clubs that cater to these rockets & we run them at Woodbridge KC & at Summit Point our home track since 69. I was just wondering if you do have any laydowns though as you never mention these or the many classes we run . The main engine since the 70s is the ole Yamaha KT 100 . These laydowns can hit 120 with full bodywork . Just rambling here but i did enjoy your clip & you give those wishing to go racing what you say is a good start for anyone that want's to take the plunge into the best kept secret in motorsports. One thing you forgot was to make sure all the newbies get their little red wagon to haul all your stuff to the grid , it may be silly but try & haul all your stuff up to the starting grid without one LOL.. Cheapest piece of important gear we need to have fun. Best advice before anyone goes racing is go to the track & ask ,look & listen before you take that plunge & do everything you need to do to make your practice sessions count race hard & race clean . Fast only come with seat time the rest you learn as you go cause it has no end to the learning curve . good clip IAR...
When i raced sprint karts in the 90s after years of putting up with an old frame, in the end i realized its better to buy a new frame from the start, i could make small adjustments and notice the difference which in an old frame doesn't make any difference, i raced competitively for the first time on the new frame, i should have raced in the Yamaha 100cc class because the fields are bigger and the drivers develop more skills to win as the racing is more competitive and you have more fun, after years of racing I realized the best drivers from the lower classes can compete up the front at any level and win, seen this happen many times, going faster means nothing, its only demonstrate how much money you have which normally does not correlate with one's skills.
Good info; thanks for taking your time to share your knowledge and experience.
Great information,.. thanks a bunch.. I have followed your progression as a kart enthusiast and have really enjoyed the videos.. I have run the rental karts at DKC and at HKC and at what was once J&J Speedway in Baytown.. I love it.. and i may be interested in the DD2 because of your video so tks! and Good Luck to ya... Wendell
Thanks so much Wendell. Karting is great and I'm sure you'll love having your own kart. The DD2 is a very cool kart.
Thanks so much. I am 14 and have one of the fastest times and I really wanna upgrade from the rentals
Excellent presentation. Very informative.
Thank you!
Looking at getting into it. Very helpful. Looking at a CR 125 shifter from DR/CRG.
You shouldn’t start with a shifter
I watched this because I enjoy your channel and hopefully my karting experience will parallel yours soon, but I also watched this video to talk myself out of buying a DD2 and getting an LO206 instead, it didn’t work haha I still want a DD2 so badly!
I only agree with buying a chassis that is supported by your local track "IF" they have a kart shop on site selling actual parts for the brand of kart(and not for an inflated price).
We had (what a always suspected) a budget chassis brand at our track. Told that it was crazy to buy any other brand because of the support we would get from the manufacturer. Couldn't buy parts at the track and the reps that were supposed to be there at every race only helped the track owners two kids.
Only reason we were told to buy this brand by the owner **cough cough K&K cough cough** was so his two kids could get free karts every season.
Lots of people in the karting world ready to help you/ give advice not letting on that they are getting a kick back
I've just bought a 2yr old 125cc Tony kart with a fireball racetuned engine needing to be run in, that cost me £1500. In addition I've spent £250 on helmet, suit and gloves. Bought an 8x4ft trailer for £180 needing to be converted costing another £200 approx and £1650 on a bmw330ci towcar+tow bar. I have a friend also getting a kart tomorrow similar to mine for £1000 As it's older plus similar on race equip. He's going half on the bmw and trailer. Also got a go pro for £80 today so will be fully equipped to run 2 karts for about £5000 with about £3000 personally to start. And my mates uncle runs pfispeed in Lincolnshire I think he said it was called and his mate owns a kart track too!
(I could have used a cheaper towcar, but figured the bmw was better to use than sell plus it's a bit of a pisstake
using a bmw to tow. I'm damned if I'm putting a tow bar on my Audi).
I think £3500 to get 2 karts and be able to race each other and other friends is worth it. if I bought brand new would be closer to £12000. I'd advise shopping around carefully for bargains, eBay is ok, or use Facebook to talk with karters and get into the community as they will sell some very good stuff if your patient.
Other costs will be track rental, tyres, repairs and if you prorace entry fees and travel costs.
I think overall it's just affordable if you want a bit of fun, but racing will cost a fortune.
Thank you, you answered questions that someone starting out like myself needed answered, thanks
Thx for the informations.
Amazing stuff mate
Fun fact, I’m the guy that builds the chassis for Margay 🤙🏻
Great info! Thank you!! Buying my first cart and ready to roll!
Been around racing for years you've done a great video especially for beginners or somebody without any karting experience great points about what races in your area
Thank you very much Greg, I appreciate it!
Track doesn't sound to big if the 100cc two stroke classes haven't hit 100 yet which is there Max speed the shifters top speed is like 125
dude, shifters can go up or lower depending on the temperature, for example if you live in panama like me where it's basically super hot you will go maximum 130 kph and if you live like in Miami you can go up to 165 kmh. By the way i'm talking about the last kart he talked about which my friend has unlike me which I have the 3rd or 4th one which had the iame engine but my kart is CRG
Started with a 125cc shifter kart then got a tag cart and drove both, sold both and now 5 years later im wanting another shifter.
Great info on Karting! Thank you!
Thank you for taking the time to watch.
Awesome info thanks!! Just found this channel,interested in getting into the sport so extremely helpful!now just gotta see what’s up in my area as far as tracks and classes go(Phoenix Arizona) so thanks again!
Great to hear you're getting into karting, you're going to LOVE it!
Thank you, great information for todays karting!!!!
Thank you for making this video, alot of very good information here if you want to get into Karting for fun or compete. Personally, I want to race GoKarts, and hopefully become a Formula 1 racer driver someday! Again thank you for making this video!
Found out was ok a bit late! Did lots of A+D racing. My first kart was a 1ST Kart ! Got 2 karts set of rain tires and any parts. Price 1600! Now have another chassis . The 1 no fun part is I race Briggs Masters . Driver weight is 200 lbs. I weigh just a bit under 140. Got serious amount of lead all over the place plus . If kart runs ok it stays on the ground!
Good video you answered the questions. I would love to drive a shifter cart. There's not much cart racing in my area. Thanks from west Tennessee
Absolutely freaking awesome video! This was super informative. Thank you very, very much!
A fantastic video. I've been to Dallas Karting Complex a few times. It is a well run operation.
Thanks! DKC is so much fun to go to.
@@IllegalAlienRacing First time out to DKC last weekend and here I am watching videos on buying my first kart...
@@tommyfish9481 - Yes, it's addicting. I'd drive their faster karts and pick the brains of Mike up there and private kart owners you see. You might also want to race in their league.
@@IllegalAlienRacing Thanks for the response! Got a chance to talk with a few of the guys up there who were actual racers but being my first time I was a bit overwhelmed. Also after 3, 10 minute sessions I could only manage a 77.215 so I have a bit of work to do to get to 73 lol. Need to stop sliding around the corners and figure out the actual racing line.
@@IllegalAlienRacing Got a chance to go back up there today and pick the brains of a few faster guys. David(MrAzKik) was a big help and I ended up with a 72.919 which I was pretty happy with. Gonna head up there this Friday to check out the league race too.
Used to go to Michelle's kartway in Miami year's ago it sure has changed, we raced super late models Short track but that's a lot of money
Great vid. This is my next money pit. I’m already a track member at a track 5miles from my house. I run my motorcycles on it but it’s just not the best for a 636cc ninja. I race the rental carts and am a middle of the pack racer. I really wanna be dumb and jump into a shifter! But we’ll see I’m gonna exercise control and wait till next summer to buy my cart…
Great information so thank you. I am thinking about getting into karting at Area 27 in Oliver BC Canada
Great info exactly what i was looking for
I miss my karting years from late 70s and in to the 80s I'm 50 now miss my teen years
Just start again. Karting is for every One. If you have the budget😁
@@sognstrupkartteam6710 it was costing too much I'm in to r.c. racing
That was a great video! Thank you mate!
You gave me a very good orientation about karting!
+Javier Garcia - Thanks Javier, glad that helped. Thank you for watching!
thats cool im 15 and ive been doing national races in panama which is a pretty hot country so I bought a new2018 $9,000 CRG with iame engine. CRG honestly is an incredible brand as well as the iame engine which is the x30 iame 125cc 2stroke engine.
Damn if only I get these much views on my kart videos. Keep up the great work!
Keep at it!
Awesome video good insightful information 👍 from Vancouver Canada 🇨🇦
Hey there, awsome video! Im an 18 year old and i want to get into karting to proceed for formula. It's a long dream of mine and im wondering if you have any suggestions for me to proceed. I have no racing experience and not a lot of money since im a student. Neither do i have any mechanical skills. Yet again awsome video really informative!
Figure it out is the best advice. You're literally starting from nothing unlike most F1 drivers who've always had money and support. If you really want it you'll fight for it. Otherwise you'll never get there.
Joshua Z Okey, thanks for the response, and i Will fight for it!! :)
Damn, that gonna be hard! Most drivers start at like 2. Keep fighting mate I’m sure you’ll get into f1, I also want to! I’m in iame cadet series?
I kart, and because I’ve looked into getting into the formulas I would recommend either going for a senior class, or going straight into f4 if you’re good enough. If you don’t have money, you’ll probably have to go into a national karting championship and get a ton of sponsors, which will help massively
Debz if you are fun, interesting and supportive to the press and media, the f4 teams and sponsors will want to have you a lot more, because how you look on camera and how you act will make a big difference
Good video 👍🏼 I'm about to buy a used Rotax 125 senior and I really need all tips about what's gonna brake mostly and what I need to learn to maintain the kart running.
Jesper Ek I have the exact same kart. Just today I replaced a sprocket and chain. Make sure you lube the chain every time you go out on the track. Also, learn how to service the clutch yourself. It's a simple as taking the chain off and undoing one nut. There is a little bearing in there that needs to be greased. Also, if the kart is not clean when you get it, make sure you spend some time and get it nice and clean. If it is, make sure you take the time to wipe it down every day you're on track. Keeping it clean and going over it every day helps you find loose or missing parts, also shows you if you've got a leak somewhere. I've gone through 2 sprockets this month so just make sure you lube the chain, then lube the chain, then lube the chain again! Hope that helps. If you've got any other questions let me know, I'd be happy to help with anything you need.
@@tallishyeti2756 thank you! Yes I gonna keep it clean and learn to fix that clutch and sprocket :) Happy New Year
Buy Oring chains or break some until you do. Oil the chain lightly every outing on track, but care not to hit the clutch with the oil spray. Buy new tires, used can be heat cicled out or just plain worn. Keep the tires away from the sun as much as possible. Tire pressures are important, check when hot. So much more to know, but the most important thing - ride it like you stole it!
Awesome video bro thanks a lot for the info I have been looking for a long time
You're very welcome and thank you for taking the time to watch.
My personal goal is to get Rotax DD2 in the future. Having driven karts for over 10years and driven karts ranging 6hp-30hp. Radne Raket 60 , Raket 85 and Rotax Mini Max and Rotax Senior Max.
I’m 13 and have been doing karting at places for a year and I can beat adults with ease and wanted to start go kart racing, know where I can get a kart from that isn’t to expensive but is fast
Just getting started. Can you clarify the manufacturer of the karts you showed? Who are the top manufacturers of the best made karts on the market? Great video! Thanks.
The top manufacturers are sodi arrow and JC karts.
@@jacobradler7159: Thank You
@@Ruhrstahl1400 Yea no problem have fun karting...
Tony Karts, Kosmic karts, Sodi, and for 206 mgm or a comet eagle
I use regular pump gas (98 octane ) here in europe on my shifter kart and I have the same Vortex Engine. Never had any problems
Man this is so cool!!! I need to see if there is a track near me how would I find this out? Cuz once i get back from my deployment.... I would love to get into this sport and find a good competition to race in/for?!
Austin&Vicky Moore I would recommend an LO206 to start out and a good chassis would be a 4 cycle set up OTK or an MGM. People will help with chassis, engine tuning, and also knowing the line of your track.
great tutorial and awesome info
Great informative video. Thanks!
No Kart racing in NW Montana (darn it anyway) but you did a great job explaining the different types of Karts. I always jump in a Kart whenever I am in a town that has them but really would like to get into racing.
+nkdfz1 - You need to move! 😄
I have watched this video 3 times even though I know I will never be able to get my own kart. The best rentals my city got go like 10mph max with the overly strict regulations.
Excellent tutorial! After years of racing motocross it may be time to try karting. At 57 my body doesn't want to do the things my brain wants it to do on the dirt bike. I just need to race SOMETHING! Thanks for the great video!
+Tom Acquilano - Thank you Tom. I say go for it! I think you’d adapt quickly given your experience. I’ve never met an MXer that hasn’t broken a bone, but I’ve met several karters that haven’t.
@@IllegalAlienRacing Ha Ha, yeah I have my share of broken bones! Looks like you'd really have to screw up to get hurt bad in a kart. Have they come out with competitive electric karts? I bought an electric dirt bike last year. It's very competitive. Top notch suspension and brake components. 50HP with 147 ft-lb of torque. The thing's a beast and it's the best handling dirt bike i've ever owned. Bet that motor/battery combo would make a Kart fly. Best part about it is there's no maintenance. Thanks for the reply.
I’m with yuh in that one. Raced motocross since childhood. Tired of bad crashes. Looking into this now
subscribed! Thanks for posting this awesome video. I been looking for all this information in a really easy way to understand.
Good, helpful information.... Thank you.
Great breakdown for beginners, thanks for making this video!
Great info! 👏
Things have changed, karting classes used to be fewer, and simpler designs. The sport has been pushed by manufacturers and wealthy racers towards pay-to-win.
The top level of karting used to be simple, 135cc direct drive single gear air cooled. No starters, batteries, pumps, etc. Good enough for Ayrton Senna.
Electric karts have no really taken off yet, but the costs are higher, and acceleration is crazy.
Just to be real: when Eddie Cheever raced karts his dad spent $100,000 in one season at the world level, in the 1970s!
But don't forget the fact that way back in that time, we already had that issue with McCoulloch producing a new improved engine every 6 months so your NEWEST and BEST was obsolete by the time it was broken in. We started out with a kart with direct drive to the WHEEL mounted sprocket making it decidedly better turning one way than the other. We had Clinton 2.5 horse 2 cycle motors and eventually put two on it, (because we got it with 3 motors in a box) and that was WICKED fun and fast on dirt, our only available venue. We later got a nice 1961 Bug Kart with a Homelight KL100 on it and had a Blast there too. It got stolen and never seen again. IF you see a 1961 Bug kart, BLUE with a seat back fuel tank and disc brakes using a clutch disc It's MINE, CALL ME.
@@bobbysolo5411 early 60s dart chassis,$200,$100 west bend motor,got a 98# kid to drive ,result ohio champ
Incredibly useful! Thank you!
Excellent explanation you seem very knowledgeable keep it up
What is dd2 rotax gas mixture?
0:19 I’m not sure why you would want to put that on a kart. But other wise great vid helped me a lot!
That was sus
Prices change from State to State.. Florida has great prices.. You head west the prices go up. Once you hit California forget buying one there.. They will rip you off..
Where in Florida do you suggest buying a 100 CC kart. I live near Fort Myers and my son would like to get into the sport
HB I have bought to motors from Musgrave Racing in California a 125 Honda and a x30 super shifter I live in Ga great people to deal with .Billy is a great guy he doesn't rush you he will tell you everthing you need to know .
ROK is a class, VORTEX make ROK engines
Very helpful 😁👍
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That was real helpful. Thanks man
Glad it helped Ernie!
My mum is going to get me a cheap one but I am so happy just because someone’s looks better or is more valuable doesn’t meant they can beat you it the engine that matters you can’t tell by looking at the outside lets race