People thought this game was going to be so perfect. I think its time we all realize games take a huge amount of time to get properly done and just stop looking for perfection
@jty1999 nope, that is said about everything single game. Building a game is just like this every single time. Ark, stalker 2, balders gate, the list can go forever. Games are buggy broken messes for years
People are gonna complain no matter what you tell them so no point in trying to change them and the best example is COD year after year the same people complain but still buy so pointless
Sorry it’s a bit rough on your end but man it’s been super nice and refreshing experience on my end as a AMD user, tons of potential to come with this game !
Yeah the only reason I'm building with Nvidia is if I'm a content creator or streamer but even then I'd have a specific build for that, then have my all AMD build for pure gaming.
I bought DayZ way back when it was early access and still haven't managed to play it recently. I've decided to try this out and hope it scratches the itch I'm looking for! Definitely potential here
They NEED to fix the AI aimbot/track and damage output. got killed with a single shot to the shoulder while wearing full armour 100% condish.. Plus Still HORRIBLE banding. Devs focused on the WRONG thing again. So many issues to rectify before adding in new features.
@@Armatu5 and that was a total lie. just like everything else they said they fix. just like all the the stuff they bragged and promised on all the useless streams they have had. just lies.
I could be wrong but I think unless you adjusted gamma it was horror game black in the test server. So they may have got feedback on that and changed before it went live. Not positive though.
I dunno, I’ve done the first few missions & still not bought nods, mine is very similar to what was shown with the non-oled & I hate it. I can see way too much
Played the new update and my frames stayed high the entire time with a rare drop here and there. Definitely was not running at 40 fps like this. My experience has been better than pre-patch running a 13700k + mere 4070
I’m wondering how many of my one tap to the head shots are not landing because of weapon durability. It’s odd to incorporate that without a repair mechanic.
Honestly, as soon as a gun drops below 3MOA, I bin it, or at least change out the barrel and reciever. I play sneaky, and I cbf with guns that miss a 1 hit kill at medium range when I have them dead-to-rights. That usually means that if I die with a gun more than once it goes in the bin. The durability drop off is insane and needs to be reworked
the update is pretty cool, its just unfortunate that I'm still feeling really terrible performance on my CPU sometimes and the AI enemies seem to tank 80 shots one time and drop in one the next... the sad part is that when I'm at like 50 FPS or so the game feels sooooo good but when it dips to 20 bc it's asking for everything my i5 9600K has to offer I like can't be expected to actually be able to do anything
I watched a gameplay vid of this the other day - my dude shot an AI enemy in the head twice, then with several body shots, all of which the enemy AI tanked just before it ran for cover. I understand it's early access, but this, along with the numerous performance issues = clearly the game needs waaaaay more time in the oven.
New guns and night game play and some tasks doesn't actually make me want to return. It's been so long since this came out and for their first update, it's pretty underwhelming
600 hrs here. You are 100% spot on, imo. It just doesn't work. You're only playing "the idea of a good game" Geniunely, it is not a good game at the moment
I think for me , I look at it like this game is very early in its development cycle and the level of graphic fifelity and detail is really pushing the limits. Maxed out this game looks stunning , and the huge map with massive draw distances really adds to the immersion. I think we are waiting for GPUs to catch up with this game tbh. In 3 years' time GPUs will be running this native over 100fps no problem
The problem is these another game will come out and it will be too "graphically intensive" for your gpu. Developers dont want to optimize their games anymore so they just throw out games that dont run well on low to mid tier gpus and screw the consumer over
I have RTX 4080 on 1440p with dlss quality and the game runs on 90-100fps maxed out without FG. Problem is exactly at this fps point, game then becomes CPU bottlenecked even with best CPU. Next problem is game is using Lumen and Nanite and lowering setting will boost fps by laughable amount + CPU bottleneck is still there. We just need to overcome point with hardware that midrange gpus and cpus will run games with Lumen and Nanite enabled with 120-160fps. This technologies take big chunk of performance right away, but then it doesnt matter how many highres assets and draw distance will be in the scene (Nanite), same with how many highquality realtime lights will be in the scene (Lumen/Megalights). Big advantage is developers dont need to make LODs and they dont need to bake lights so it accelerates the development massively. For user the advantage is maximum quality objects in whole drawdistance without lods popups (its massive difference when looking far away at trees etc. its so high quality in every distance) and realtime gorgeous globalillumination with accurate indirect lighting and shadows. I am excited for 5090 performance and possibly DLSS4 with some groundbraking ai acceleration of something new to push the limits to become closer to make lumen and nanite standard soon. AI acceleration will change everything, it will get only better and better and every game even indie games will look epic and development time will be much faster and easier. What I am concerned about is CPU future, more and more games are CPU bottlenecked, games fails to utilize all cores and single core performance is barely evolving. I think CPUs in the future will have some powerfull AI accelerators too to overcome this issue and there will be better tools to optimize all cores of cpu.
I mean there’s quite of bit of areas that are pitch black so nods are generally needed. Unless like what was stated about high gamma or an OLED monitor. I could see with a lot of the lights on day in the starting town sure but there are over to around half the areas that are nvg needed.
@makingacomment not really. This game is a scam. You dont need headsets, armor generally doesnt matter, and bullets dont register. Its okay bro. Ur having fun playing a dead game. I did too at one point. I have 600 hrs. So its not like im rooting for it to fail. It is a terribly performing game
My problem is the nvgs are pointless. I can see clear as day at night on default settings. Nvgs just hindered my fov so I took them off. Especially in the open rice paddies or the cities.
NVIDIA User here and I have smoother frame rates and overall a better performance. This update is really, really amazing and I hope you can get your performance back ASAP
Idk what the game is,i have never seen your channel before, but when i heard like or dislike and subscribe if thats your thing it brought a tear to my eye and i will now forever stay subscribed
in this game, i'll say not "there's a problem" but "allways have problem". I just hope Madfinger focuses on optimizing performance rather than adding features but the performance doesn't really feel like it has changed. bought this game from day one and got the lowest specs which was a gtx 1080, that was crazy. Not everyone plays to pursue realistic images, but many gamers expect an experience from the gameplay presented to the mechanics in the game
I havent played yet but this entire update seems really promising with each feature having one minor drawback which is a bummer but better have the feature than not
I never and i mean drop below 130 fps max settings with DLSS quality and framegen 1440P 7800X3D + 4070. The thing about framegen that some people do not understand is that the amount of input latency introduced when its enabled depends on what frames you were getting before you enabled it. If your approaching 90 fps then turn on FG input latency is barely noticeable in most games. However if your down in the 40-50 fps range turning on FG will without doubt introduce noticeable input lag. FG is not the bandaid everyone thinks it is, it works great for high powered machines not so great lower powered machines. But for single player games that input lag on lower spec machines is fine.
was really hoping that this would have major performance optimizations seeing as my build is the "recommended" specs but is pretty much unplayable at the lowest settings i can manually set the game to even set to 30 fps and it's not even the fps that's the issue the game often has 2-5 second input delay where i've had my hand off of the keyboard and continued to run for several seconds as well as the mouse not tracking and having extreme stuttering
I just started playing this game again after not playing for months. I get way better frames now than when the game first came out. When it 1st came out I was getting 90 fps but lots of stuttering. After updates, it dropped to like 60-70 fps. Logging in now after the big night cycle update has been out and patched a few times, I now get around 110 fps but sometimes dips to 90s.
I just want to see weekly updates on the performance, and not have to wait 6 months for the next big update. Cause if that's the case it will just be that same as last time. I'll do half the tasks tell mid late tasks when the area's later are unplayable and not touch the game tall the next big update.
@@Maddog0608 They didn't fix anything with the ai. They still 1 shot you from across the map with a pistol and they still tank 40 rounds to the chest/head without dying. Nothing has changed.
@ they def did something with AI in the 2.0.1 update. I thought they were much better with the exception of a random instance of tanking But with this 2.0.2 update they reverted them back to sponges, randomly spawning in front of you and getting one tapped more often. There back to the old AI. I don’t know why they messed with them. They were fine
I had an enemy AI spawn on the roof and my bullets sent them into the sky and they just cussed at me when came back down, I hope they fix the AI I like this game
There is 2 things I hate in it right now 1: my fps before the update 70-100 after update 35-60 2: sometimes bots are just invisible and then just spawn in front of me and kill me instantly really annoying
Played this for a few hours today and crashed for the first time within the first hour and had a ton of issues right away! Enemy’s teleporting next to me, terrible bullet physics and hit reg, (had to shoot a guy 11 times in his head while firing in between a wooded beam on a porch) had a ton of problems with the different bullet damage changes especially on shotgun slugs and with the mp5 at medium range, I find the Ai still 1 tap headshot you through bushes (less at night) and also they got rid of being able to use FSR frame generation unless you have a 40 series card so I now am getting 55 avg frames when just yesterday I was around 125 avg so it’s a mess atm I was disappointed 😔
my biggest concern is that if you adjust the gamme it is as bright as day you don t need any nvg or flashlight wich is very sad they put so much effort in the nvg but i guess nobody is going to use them i haven t tested the night properly pls correct me if i am wrong
They are not going to do anything about the optimization, they said that they are betting on people getting better computers by the time this game "comes out" in 1.0
@@qlintenFXmy 3060 has been running it fine. Before update I was full on crashing every 30 mins after update I played all day yesterday and only had 1 crash
Wait so with the aggressor system, once the timer counts down are you still able to loot the body? I wasn’t able to even after the aggressor wore off not sure if it’s a bug?
Running an 5800x3d with a 4070super and im so fucking happy with the patch. Sat down and played yesterday for the longest ive played any game in more than a year.
I think this game runs a lot better than people give it credit for, I have 7800X3D and get 90-100 FPS by default. But what's important to note is that these big games require great CPUs to run and are much more CPU dependent than GPU dependent. Thankfully the game gives you the option to reduce your resolution scaling, which makes the game look worse but takes a massive load off of your CPU. You can then increase some of the other graphical settings to put more of the load on your GPU instead for much better frames. In these types of games the limiting factor is almost always the CPU and not the GPU, unless you have a very poor GPU.
Honest thought on the update: - Largely more optimized compared to the last time i played (went from 20fps constant to 35-45 fps constant, net improvement and really makes gameplay much more enjoyable) - AI enemies, while still having really solid aim, feel more enjoyable to face against with their quote-on-quote "nerfs" Initially, this was in the starting zones, where they had aimbot-style aim, unlike now.... Now i've got the LLA outposts to deal with ;-; - Rubberbanding being fixed also makes it a very fun experience, combined with the improved FPS. Negative thoughts: Your teammates are either a blessing in disguise, or just the worst cancer on your side... They either know how to check a map, or they don't and just shoot on sight ;-; Conclusion: Me likey lots, and i'm gonna bleed this game now uwu (PC Specs: RTX 3060 laptop, CPU 11th Gen i5 @3100GHz, 16GB of RAM (8GB are shared with the GPU), 14GB of VRAM (6GB dedicated, 8GB shared) --- And for reference, i do get the "Ran out of VRAM" icon when in game)
im playing on a laptop and get persistent 85-90 fps, not crazy but for a game thats this unoptimized its respectable. play with your settings, youll get there
I have never heard "OLED is pay to win"... OLED is more expensive, but its also a tradeoff... I love my OLED for the dark scene accuracy. But it is also going to be hella expensive when something goes wrong.
Frame generation and upscaling at 1080p should not be considered "how the game runs"! If that technology improves the gameplay with little downsides, it's worth noting but it's still a crutch, and the base performance is what truly matters, even if you plan on using those crutches.
I definitely have an issue with drops, pre update I'd average around 120-130. Now ill have drops every couple seconds, and it'll dip down to below 25. like massive stuttering. its cool staying at the base and using the firing range at night with nightvision though.
the aggressor system helped me earlier, dude accidentally unloaded on me so I got him had a clear UI element telling me not to loot him etc which I appreciated but I got the aggressor mark myself later and I dunno why, I guess I shot near a teammate, but I feel like suppressing a teammate is less bad than anything else, so I dunno why I had the mark for so long
the AI are still giga Chad Terminators :/ and one thing that's super annoying about that is there was a bunch of shooting in the town and i fell over dead. there was no impacts next to me no sounds of the snap as the bullets whizzed by me nothing. just folded over
They need to be because the game itself is trying to represent how being in an extraction shooter feels like in real life (as a Private Military Contractor (PMC)).
@@TactiGamer They did 100% make ai way less terminator like overal, but sometimes its insane, we were 4 guys and one ai insta dropped 3 of us when we came around the corner xDD
The people always ridiculing for not wanting 30fps because that’s all we had 20 years ago listen I didn’t pay 3k for a pc and 2k for a display to play in 30fps that I did on Xbox 360 😂
#1 problem holding this game back is performance. They need to stop, and optimize the hell out of it if they want this to go anywhere. Until then, we'll be back when the 5090s becomes affordable. Sincerely the community that wants this to be great but can't play it
@Brzzzyexe I have a i9-10900k 3080rtx whatever the problem is they need to fix it. It would benefit them to make it playable on potatoes and high end machines. The graphics settings in this game don't make a difference... Or don't make a logical difference... Nail that down and this game will explode... Ignore that and it will remain abscure
@@MRLEGEND101_ I have a 3070 and before the update had around 40-30 fps, it was possible to stream but not completely. now I don't know because I'm waiting for the next update which will come in 6 months
@TactiGamer True, definitely has a little while to go. In all honesty, with the minor issues, the game is really fun with tons of potential. It reminds me of Ghost Recon Wildlands.
Been using a controller since day 1. I uploaded the config to steam, and currently adding new bindings for the new functions. Have to search my name in configs, and hopefully you have a ps4 controller.
Dunno what you're on about. I'm consistently in the 120 frames neighborhood. But I throttled it down to 60 because my monitor refresh doesn't go that high. Smooth as butter all day, and I don't even have that great of a system.
Anybody else having an issue with the lean right mechanic, I have to click my mouse 4 two times to lean out to the right, and what’s up with the weight system. I tend to be around 51-53 on the weight side when I’m kitted. I only run two clips and three stacks of ammo. Water and Rations in backpack.
They should add two separate kind of modes with sub modes in this game: one for people who want to play the game the way it's supposed to be played (something that people don't do) and one for people who want to play it like a genuine extraction shooter. This whole thing about people misunderstanding what this game is even about and complaining when developers don't care about you not playing it the way it's supposed to be played is probably just going to be an issue in long terms.
I have been getting consistent 85-90 fps at 1440 on epic w/o frame gen turned on; occasional drops to 65 in the heli and such. Granted I did just update my PC (mainly to run all these modern system hungry games), but for what it is worth I would say it is more than stable on a 7700X w/ 4070 super...
dang, I was really hoping to come back but I think I'll keep waiting a bit. I REALLY like the idea of this game, way more than arena breakout, tarkov, any of them. Fingers crossed.
Gonna be honest here, I run 90 - 100 fps with DLSS enabled on my RTX 3080. So I am not sure what exactly the problem is that your having. But at least on my end the game is very smooth and actually looks great at this stage.
Bought this game on day one played for a bit unistalled it. But there is good news from valve that may fix shit games like this from being sold to consumers in early access.
Considering they meet every requirement from steam.... yeah nothing will change. They have detailed every single content update for the next 3 years. They maintain constant communication with the community on what theyre focused on and why certain things are being delayed... you act as though they arent trying but they are just not on the things you want them to.
Nvidia has frame gen. AMD is nice enough to support nvidia when it won’t even support its own cards and force you to buy the new gen. Sounds like coping
Is it me or they enemy Ai is nerfed to the ground. I installed the game and in 1 go i went lvl 9. The enemies have NOTHIN to do with my exprience on 1st playthrough. And this comes from a dude that did all the OG Tiger Bay missions solo.
its funny how they worked their as off when the game first come out, but when they got a lot of money. i mean a LOT of money they started to take things real slow, failing to fix the same thing over and over again. not to mention lying to the people that bought the game. blamed gamers for their incompetency to fix problems people found, instead of fixing them they blamed the gamers. talking and bragging about the stuff they would add and fix, and yet fucked it so up they needed a rollback on the night update.
The one thing stopping me from getting this game is my pc hardware and the performance. I have an 12700k and an Rtx 3060 ti and I’ve heard the game runs like garbage on that hardware. As soon as I start hearing better things or I can afford a new gpu I’ll jump on this game right away. If anyone has input on the performance on my hardware feel free to rely id greatly appreciate it.
Arena Breakout Infinite. It's AI can recognise over 177.000 objects and can basically do stuff for you (help you in battle,inform about weather and stuff).
I disagree, I hate queuing in a lobby for a timed raid. The open world makes things far more dynamic then "pick a point in this world that doesn't actually exist in its full entirety"
@@gagesilvas9426 Just make larger, un-timed instanced maps. Problem solved. In the games current state, the Open World doesn't really add much to the overall experience and a large majority of the map is more useless filler for your PC to have to process.
Check out this video by Sinister for a framegen fix: ruclips.net/video/dPwXzxX9e2U/видео.htmlsi=rtolcoPOs8Th9Ftb
It works for me!!! (3060Ti) Thank you! :-)
People thought this game was going to be so perfect. I think its time we all realize games take a huge amount of time to get properly done and just stop looking for perfection
True but there are so many basic things that should’ve been mostly ironed out before being launched…mostly talking about performance optimization imo
@jty1999 nope, that is said about everything single game. Building a game is just like this every single time.
Ark, stalker 2, balders gate, the list can go forever.
Games are buggy broken messes for years
Nobody thought it'd be perfect lol. No game in existence is perfect. But the game is good now at least. Just gotta hope it only gets better
Cope level to the max. Gray zone warfare is clearly updating slow@@venous-gaming55
People are gonna complain no matter what you tell them so no point in trying to change them and the best example is COD year after year the same people complain but still buy so pointless
The only issue I've had is if I'm trying to do anything long range they just eat the rounds right to the head and just flinch a little lol
yea and they absolutely smash you without even a sight
Yes, the only issue:
The bullet-sponge, insta react, aimbot, hipshot from 100m+ instatap AI.
That was SUPPOSED to be addressed
@@Rogue308 its already fixed?
@@christoph4977 That has been a problem since release and these loser devs never fixed it. Game is dead anyways so who cares now
Sorry it’s a bit rough on your end but man it’s been super nice and refreshing experience on my end as a AMD user, tons of potential to come with this game !
Hopping in the first time with being able to use frame gen was great! Glad you're enjoying it!
I've been enjoying this game 🎮 update. Which is a super fun and best-looking game 😅🎉❤
Yeah the only reason I'm building with Nvidia is if I'm a content creator or streamer but even then I'd have a specific build for that, then have my all AMD build for pure gaming.
Straight 140 + fps amd 6950xt
same for me
Great Video dude! I think this game still has a couple of more years of development until we really see the full potential
I agree. Enjoy the concept! Now if it could be stable I'd be really diving in!
I bought DayZ way back when it was early access and still haven't managed to play it recently. I've decided to try this out and hope it scratches the itch I'm looking for! Definitely potential here
lol this game is already dead. A couple years? This game will be long forgotten by then.
They NEED to fix the AI aimbot/track and damage output. got killed with a single shot to the shoulder while wearing full armour 100% condish.. Plus Still HORRIBLE banding. Devs focused on the WRONG thing again. So many issues to rectify before adding in new features.
lmfao I hope you like waiting another 6 months. Dead game.
@@kenshinhimura9387 lmao the yapping is real with this man keep wasting ur time on comments brother we don't mind
@@kenshinhimura9387 They have literally already fixed this now. Or at least GREATLY improved it.
@@Armatu5 and that was a total lie. just like everything else they said they fix. just like all the the stuff they bragged and promised on all the useless streams they have had. just lies.
Im just glad they did night correctly where you can actually see in the dark and its not just generic horror game black everywhere
I could be wrong but I think unless you adjusted gamma it was horror game black in the test server. So they may have got feedback on that and changed before it went live. Not positive though.
in a region there without the moon its pitch black and u can see nothing. no game did it right with night.
My gamma is set below normal and I can still see. It's super nice
I dunno, I’ve done the first few missions & still not bought nods, mine is very similar to what was shown with the non-oled & I hate it. I can see way too much
@@DeclanHiggins__ go into the area around YBL at night
Performance, I knew it! Who woulda guessed lol. I hope this game gets better optimization over time but I am sitting this update out I think.
Ah, looks like my OLED monitor has a new advantage!
Apparently I need one!
Also Gray, FrameGen was a thing previously too! I used it from day 1
Played the new update and my frames stayed high the entire time with a rare drop here and there. Definitely was not running at 40 fps like this. My experience has been better than pre-patch running a 13700k + mere 4070
I’m wondering how many of my one tap to the head shots are not landing because of weapon durability. It’s odd to incorporate that without a repair mechanic.
Honestly, as soon as a gun drops below 3MOA, I bin it, or at least change out the barrel and reciever. I play sneaky, and I cbf with guns that miss a 1 hit kill at medium range when I have them dead-to-rights.
That usually means that if I die with a gun more than once it goes in the bin. The durability drop off is insane and needs to be reworked
the update is pretty cool, its just unfortunate that I'm still feeling really terrible performance on my CPU sometimes and the AI enemies seem to tank 80 shots one time and drop in one the next... the sad part is that when I'm at like 50 FPS or so the game feels sooooo good but when it dips to 20 bc it's asking for everything my i5 9600K has to offer I like can't be expected to actually be able to do anything
I watched a gameplay vid of this the other day - my dude shot an AI enemy in the head twice, then with several body shots, all of which the enemy AI tanked just before it ran for cover. I understand it's early access, but this, along with the numerous performance issues = clearly the game needs waaaaay more time in the oven.
New guns and night game play and some tasks doesn't actually make me want to return. It's been so long since this came out and for their first update, it's pretty underwhelming
600 hrs here. You are 100% spot on, imo. It just doesn't work. You're only playing "the idea of a good game"
Geniunely, it is not a good game at the moment
08:21 the knife dealing zero damage
Yeah no idea what's up with that tbh
The knife always did zero damage. I've tried killing enemies with it. You can slash them 20 times in the face and they just laugh it off.
I think for me , I look at it like this game is very early in its development cycle and the level of graphic fifelity and detail is really pushing the limits. Maxed out this game looks stunning , and the huge map with massive draw distances really adds to the immersion. I think we are waiting for GPUs to catch up with this game tbh. In 3 years' time GPUs will be running this native over 100fps no problem
The problem is these another game will come out and it will be too "graphically intensive" for your gpu. Developers dont want to optimize their games anymore so they just throw out games that dont run well on low to mid tier gpus and screw the consumer over
I have RTX 4080 on 1440p with dlss quality and the game runs on 90-100fps maxed out without FG. Problem is exactly at this fps point, game then becomes CPU bottlenecked even with best CPU. Next problem is game is using Lumen and Nanite and lowering setting will boost fps by laughable amount + CPU bottleneck is still there. We just need to overcome point with hardware that midrange gpus and cpus will run games with Lumen and Nanite enabled with 120-160fps. This technologies take big chunk of performance right away, but then it doesnt matter how many highres assets and draw distance will be in the scene (Nanite), same with how many highquality realtime lights will be in the scene (Lumen/Megalights). Big advantage is developers dont need to make LODs and they dont need to bake lights so it accelerates the development massively. For user the advantage is maximum quality objects in whole drawdistance without lods popups (its massive difference when looking far away at trees etc. its so high quality in every distance) and realtime gorgeous globalillumination with accurate indirect lighting and shadows. I am excited for 5090 performance and possibly DLSS4 with some groundbraking ai acceleration of something new to push the limits to become closer to make lumen and nanite standard soon. AI acceleration will change everything, it will get only better and better and every game even indie games will look epic and development time will be much faster and easier. What I am concerned about is CPU future, more and more games are CPU bottlenecked, games fails to utilize all cores and single core performance is barely evolving. I think CPUs in the future will have some powerfull AI accelerators too to overcome this issue and there will be better tools to optimize all cores of cpu.
So we have to do all the same missions again though ? How often are we just going to keep re playing the same missions
I hate how bright it is at night. Typical video game night. There’s almost no point in running NODs with how bright it is
I mean there’s quite of bit of areas that are pitch black so nods are generally needed. Unless like what was stated about high gamma or an OLED monitor.
I could see with a lot of the lights on day in the starting town sure but there are over to around half the areas that are nvg needed.
@makingacomment not really. This game is a scam. You dont need headsets, armor generally doesnt matter, and bullets dont register.
Its okay bro. Ur having fun playing a dead game. I did too at one point.
I have 600 hrs. So its not like im rooting for it to fail. It is a terribly performing game
@Dk-gl1nh "the game is a scam" and "I have 600 hours"
Dude
My problem is the nvgs are pointless. I can see clear as day at night on default settings. Nvgs just hindered my fov so I took them off. Especially in the open rice paddies or the cities.
Your brightness is probably set to a 100. If you lower it to where it should be its dark.
Turn gamma down… it’s at 100 by default. Drop it to 80 and daytime and dawn looks even way better & nighttime is near pitch black. Problem solved.
NVIDIA User here and I have smoother frame rates and overall a better performance. This update is really, really amazing and I hope you can get your performance back ASAP
Idk what the game is,i have never seen your channel before, but when i heard like or dislike and subscribe if thats your thing it brought a tear to my eye and i will now forever stay subscribed
in this game, i'll say not "there's a problem" but "allways have problem". I just hope Madfinger focuses on optimizing performance rather than adding features but the performance doesn't really feel like it has changed. bought this game from day one and got the lowest specs which was a gtx 1080, that was crazy. Not everyone plays to pursue realistic images, but many gamers expect an experience from the gameplay presented to the mechanics in the game
I havent played yet but this entire update seems really promising with each feature having one minor drawback which is a bummer but better have the feature than not
I never and i mean drop below 130 fps max settings with DLSS quality and framegen 1440P 7800X3D + 4070.
The thing about framegen that some people do not understand is that the amount of input latency introduced when its enabled depends on what frames you were getting before you enabled it.
If your approaching 90 fps then turn on FG input latency is barely noticeable in most games.
However if your down in the 40-50 fps range turning on FG will without doubt introduce noticeable input lag.
FG is not the bandaid everyone thinks it is, it works great for high powered machines not so great lower powered machines.
But for single player games that input lag on lower spec machines is fine.
I'm running same setting. playing epic and 130 on avg. i do have the 4070ti instead if the 4070 you have but it runs amazing
They really dropped the ball on this, this was their only chance to comeback and they blew it
was really hoping that this would have major performance optimizations seeing as my build is the "recommended" specs but is pretty much unplayable at the lowest settings i can manually set the game to even set to 30 fps and it's not even the fps that's the issue the game often has 2-5 second input delay where i've had my hand off of the keyboard and continued to run for several seconds as well as the mouse not tracking and having extreme stuttering
Imagine filling out bug reports on Google documents. Shame I missed the refund window.
I just started playing this game again after not playing for months. I get way better frames now than when the game first came out. When it 1st came out I was getting 90 fps but lots of stuttering. After updates, it dropped to like 60-70 fps. Logging in now after the big night cycle update has been out and patched a few times, I now get around 110 fps but sometimes dips to 90s.
I just want to see weekly updates on the performance, and not have to wait 6 months for the next big update. Cause if that's the case it will just be that same as last time. I'll do half the tasks tell mid late tasks when the area's later are unplayable and not touch the game tall the next big update.
i'm still waiting for them to fix the ai so i have to wait another 6 months until maybe i can play.
@ what’s wrong with the AI. There not perfect but there 10 times better than they were before
@@Maddog0608 They didn't fix anything with the ai. They still 1 shot you from across the map with a pistol and they still tank 40 rounds to the chest/head without dying. Nothing has changed.
@ they def did something with AI in the 2.0.1 update. I thought they were much better with the exception of a random instance of tanking But with this 2.0.2 update they reverted them back to sponges, randomly spawning in front of you and getting one tapped more often. There back to the old AI. I don’t know why they messed with them. They were fine
I had an enemy AI spawn on the roof and my bullets sent them into the sky and they just cussed at me when came back down, I hope they fix the AI I like this game
There is 2 things I hate in it right now
1: my fps before the update 70-100 after update 35-60
2: sometimes bots are just invisible and then just spawn in front of me and kill me instantly really annoying
thats been a problem since launch lol. shame it still happens
@ rip bro, tbh if they don’t fix that I’m out of this game cause it’s just impossible to play like this in dangerous situations or zones
probably because they temporarily disabled fsr frame gen for nvidia cards
Same I’m on a 3080 using lossless scaling and before I was around 100fps and now I’m barely at 50
@@caramelraindrops yeah I hope they fix it as fast as possible
Played this for a few hours today and crashed for the first time within the first hour and had a ton of issues right away! Enemy’s teleporting next to me, terrible bullet physics and hit reg, (had to shoot a guy 11 times in his head while firing in between a wooded beam on a porch) had a ton of problems with the different bullet damage changes especially on shotgun slugs and with the mp5 at medium range, I find the Ai still 1 tap headshot you through bushes (less at night) and also they got rid of being able to use FSR frame generation unless you have a 40 series card so I now am getting 55 avg frames when just yesterday I was around 125 avg so it’s a mess atm I was disappointed 😔
my biggest concern is that if you adjust the gamme it is as bright as day you don t need any nvg or flashlight wich is very sad they put so much effort in the nvg but i guess nobody is going to use them
i haven t tested the night properly pls correct me if i am wrong
They are not going to do anything about the optimization, they said that they are betting on people getting better computers by the time this game "comes out" in 1.0
The devs stated optimization is and will be part of every update.
People on 10nseries and 20 series cards need to upgrade one day. Can't expect these games on low end cards
@@DirtyCivilian14 even on 30 series it's pretty bad
@@qlintenFXmy 3060 has been running it fine. Before update I was full on crashing every 30 mins after update I played all day yesterday and only had 1 crash
@@Lornext I've been running 4K with a 3090. When I had issues, I jumped over to GeForce Now. My running mate plays strictly on GFN on a 4K TV.
I'm having a hell of a lot of fun with the new update and I'm finally getting some friends into play
Wait so with the aggressor system, once the timer counts down are you still able to loot the body? I wasn’t able to even after the aggressor wore off not sure if it’s a bug?
Running an 5800x3d with a 4070super and im so fucking happy with the patch. Sat down and played yesterday for the longest ive played any game in more than a year.
I think this game runs a lot better than people give it credit for, I have 7800X3D and get 90-100 FPS by default. But what's important to note is that these big games require great CPUs to run and are much more CPU dependent than GPU dependent. Thankfully the game gives you the option to reduce your resolution scaling, which makes the game look worse but takes a massive load off of your CPU. You can then increase some of the other graphical settings to put more of the load on your GPU instead for much better frames. In these types of games the limiting factor is almost always the CPU and not the GPU, unless you have a very poor GPU.
Does it still take a full mag of 9mm to put down a villager with every bullet hitting from ten feet away?
My game keeps crashing. And quests are bugged. Lovely new update.
Honest thought on the update:
- Largely more optimized compared to the last time i played (went from 20fps constant to 35-45 fps constant, net improvement and really makes gameplay much more enjoyable)
- AI enemies, while still having really solid aim, feel more enjoyable to face against with their quote-on-quote "nerfs"
Initially, this was in the starting zones, where they had aimbot-style aim, unlike now.... Now i've got the LLA outposts to deal with ;-;
- Rubberbanding being fixed also makes it a very fun experience, combined with the improved FPS.
Negative thoughts: Your teammates are either a blessing in disguise, or just the worst cancer on your side... They either know how to check a map, or they don't and just shoot on sight ;-;
Conclusion: Me likey lots, and i'm gonna bleed this game now uwu
(PC Specs: RTX 3060 laptop, CPU 11th Gen i5 @3100GHz, 16GB of RAM (8GB are shared with the GPU), 14GB of VRAM (6GB dedicated, 8GB shared) --- And for reference, i do get the "Ran out of VRAM" icon when in game)
I can’t stand that my 9800x3d is always hitting 90C everywhere I go and especially during heli rides. I needed to put a thermal limit on it
What's your cooling system?
@@TactiGamerI have a water cooler. This is the only game that does this. Others are seeing it too
@@dustin0133wtf? Im not burning out my cpu for this game lol
@@dustin0133it must be a 9800 issue, my 7800x3d has no issues.
Go into curve optimizer in the bios and set a negative all core to -30. Works wonders and wont hit 90c anymore
I LOVE this game. The devs actually care about their game and it’s a lot of work. I can’t hate them in the same world that Battlestate Games exist.
The worst part abut this game is devs 😂😂😂 bunch of lazy ass it take's 6 month to relase update and that was not big update
@ better than your game or any creation you’ve come up with in your life
Note the FSE 3.1/Nvidia issue is only a problem with older cards, if you have a 4000 series you are using DLSS anyway. Time to upgrade.
The bad framerate is the main reason why i dont play GZW
its your computer. Im getting well over 100 FPS
@@tommyhammer4301 yeah sure, we trust you mr fanboy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@YacineSimrace my computer is new. Im averaging 115-120 FPS
im playing on a laptop and get persistent 85-90 fps, not crazy but for a game thats this unoptimized its respectable. play with your settings, youll get there
Fps is much better then before for me personally. Aiming down scope in the 80's instead of 40's
New pc player here, just switched from xbox two weeks ago. Im loving greyzone, great time
I quit playing this game because I would get killed by players on the same faction more than players on opposing factions.
I have never heard "OLED is pay to win"... OLED is more expensive, but its also a tradeoff... I love my OLED for the dark scene accuracy. But it is also going to be hella expensive when something goes wrong.
Frame generation and upscaling at 1080p should not be considered "how the game runs"! If that technology improves the gameplay with little downsides, it's worth noting but it's still a crutch, and the base performance is what truly matters, even if you plan on using those crutches.
I definitely have an issue with drops, pre update I'd average around 120-130. Now ill have drops every couple seconds, and it'll dip down to below 25. like massive stuttering. its cool staying at the base and using the firing range at night with nightvision though.
the aggressor system helped me earlier, dude accidentally unloaded on me so I got him
had a clear UI element telling me not to loot him etc which I appreciated
but I got the aggressor mark myself later and I dunno why, I guess I shot near a teammate, but I feel like suppressing a teammate is less bad than anything else, so I dunno why I had the mark for so long
imo the update is a huge w for me and my friends performacnewise
the AI are still giga Chad Terminators :/ and one thing that's super annoying about that is there was a bunch of shooting in the town and i fell over dead. there was no impacts next to me no sounds of the snap as the bullets whizzed by me nothing. just folded over
I haven't had many issues with AI to be honest. Just an anecdote though
They need to be because the game itself is trying to represent how being in an extraction shooter feels like in real life (as a Private Military Contractor (PMC)).
@@TactiGamer They did 100% make ai way less terminator like overal, but sometimes its insane, we were 4 guys and one ai insta dropped 3 of us when we came around the corner xDD
What about DLSS frame generation? I saw Cotton turn it on today and it boosted him 80+ frames.
I can’t even launch the game, as soon as I do it tells me I don’t have enough gpu storage, I have a 4090 so idk what to do
The people always ridiculing for not wanting 30fps because that’s all we had 20 years ago listen I didn’t pay 3k for a pc and 2k for a display to play in 30fps that I did on Xbox 360 😂
Did the fix the problem with the intel i-9's?
#1 problem holding this game back is performance. They need to stop, and optimize the hell out of it if they want this to go anywhere.
Until then, we'll be back when the 5090s becomes affordable.
Sincerely the community that wants this to be great but can't play it
it's not even graphically too intensive it's all cpu bound.
@Brzzzyexe I have a i9-10900k 3080rtx whatever the problem is they need to fix it. It would benefit them to make it playable on potatoes and high end machines. The graphics settings in this game don't make a difference... Or don't make a logical difference... Nail that down and this game will explode... Ignore that and it will remain abscure
@@MRLEGEND101_ I have a 3070 and before the update had around 40-30 fps, it was possible to stream but not completely. now I don't know because I'm waiting for the next update which will come in 6 months
Thats why theyre doing 6 month updates. So the in betweens can be used for optimization and hotfixing...
I got supporter pack DLC and it won't let me collect in messages , the yellow collect bar is dimmed out , can anyone help please
Whats your specs. I push 100 to 80 constantly without using Ai frame gen.
I just want their official controller support to be a top priority at this point.
Oh man wouldn't expect this soon, mate
@TactiGamer True, definitely has a little while to go. In all honesty, with the minor issues, the game is really fun with tons of potential. It reminds me of Ghost Recon Wildlands.
I wouldnt expect official controller support until v1.0 when they will or plan to at least make a console port.
Been using a controller since day 1. I uploaded the config to steam, and currently adding new bindings for the new functions. Have to search my name in configs, and hopefully you have a ps4 controller.
Dunno what you're on about. I'm consistently in the 120 frames neighborhood. But I throttled it down to 60 because my monitor refresh doesn't go that high. Smooth as butter all day, and I don't even have that great of a system.
Anybody else having an issue with the lean right mechanic, I have to click my mouse 4 two times to lean out to the right, and what’s up with the weight system. I tend to be around 51-53 on the weight side when I’m kitted. I only run two clips and three stacks of ammo. Water and Rations in backpack.
Great review and agree with all of it. The fps drop really make me not play it.
If you have a Nvidia 4000 series you can use DLSS Frame Gen.
They should add two separate kind of modes with sub modes in this game: one for people who want to play the game the way it's supposed to be played (something that people don't do) and one for people who want to play it like a genuine extraction shooter. This whole thing about people misunderstanding what this game is even about and complaining when developers don't care about you not playing it the way it's supposed to be played is probably just going to be an issue in long terms.
does this game have a PVE OR IS IT PVP ONLY?
How many month took them to make an update
I have been getting consistent 85-90 fps at 1440 on epic w/o frame gen turned on; occasional drops to 65 in the heli and such. Granted I did just update my PC (mainly to run all these modern system hungry games), but for what it is worth I would say it is more than stable on a 7700X w/ 4070 super...
You don't need better monitor, as is its pretty bright already, also you can increase gamma from windows and see better than in a daytime
dang, I was really hoping to come back but I think I'll keep waiting a bit. I REALLY like the idea of this game, way more than arena breakout, tarkov, any of them. Fingers crossed.
My fps stays at the 75 limit i locked. Only time i drop frames is in an inventory. My performance has gotten far better since the update.
We shall see how this goes.
secret compassion for the crimson faction is broken
I wish they would switch the sprinting animation, I don’t like the gun pointed straight up in air running… just my opinion !
It runs worse than it did on the first build for me 😢
Gonna be honest here, I run 90 - 100 fps with DLSS enabled on my RTX 3080. So I am not sure what exactly the problem is that your having. But at least on my end the game is very smooth and actually looks great at this stage.
Why would anyone using an nvidia card be using FSR over DLSS anyway?
Do we not have Nvidia Frame Generation in this game?
Bought this game on day one played for a bit unistalled it. But there is good news from valve that may fix shit games like this from being sold to consumers in early access.
I hope so. These scumbags should be giving refunds to everyone.
Considering they meet every requirement from steam.... yeah nothing will change. They have detailed every single content update for the next 3 years. They maintain constant communication with the community on what theyre focused on and why certain things are being delayed... you act as though they arent trying but they are just not on the things you want them to.
@@beardedzeus1337 Game is already dead. In 3 years nobody will even remember it ever existed.
@@kenshinhimura9387 Damn, you really need to get angry over more important shit in life bro.
Unplayable for me, i log in just for the frogs and moskitos
Nvidia has frame gen. AMD is nice enough to support nvidia when it won’t even support its own cards and force you to buy the new gen. Sounds like coping
I will just use loseloss scaling for the time being, it works ok for me to play with 3070GPU, never tried FSR 3.1 on this game, hope the fix it soon
Using dlss 3, u get around 60-70fps stablity. And no input lag like fsr 3
1:14 it is possible to adjust gamma settings on any computer, this is a gamma calibration issue not a game or monitor issue.
Is it me or they enemy Ai is nerfed to the ground. I installed the game and in 1 go i went lvl 9. The enemies have NOTHIN to do with my exprience on 1st playthrough. And this comes from a dude that did all the OG Tiger Bay missions solo.
i love night gameplay in eft,stalker 2..
GZW have a long way to be a good Game Development making
its funny how they worked their as off when the game first come out, but when they got a lot of money. i mean a LOT of money they started to take things real slow, failing to fix the same thing over and over again. not to mention lying to the people that bought the game. blamed gamers for their incompetency to fix problems people found, instead of fixing them they blamed the gamers. talking and bragging about the stuff they would add and fix, and yet fucked it so up they needed a rollback on the night update.
8:49 Better than arena breaaaakooouuuut?😅You think?
The one thing stopping me from getting this game is my pc hardware and the performance. I have an 12700k and an Rtx 3060 ti and I’ve heard the game runs like garbage on that hardware. As soon as I start hearing better things or I can afford a new gpu I’ll jump on this game right away. If anyone has input on the performance on my hardware feel free to rely id greatly appreciate it.
I personally think that them using UE 5 was a mistake and if they chose a different engine it would have significantly better framerates.
Specs? So your audience knows, so what we can possibly expect
dlss and ai frame gen does the exact same thing as fsr and works great.
When you're talking that much about the game performance, you should let us know your specs. Nice video!
You're right! Sorry for that. 5950x and RTX 3090
Bro because theres a few people getting seizures the entire playerbase has to suffer because for it?
Night is not playable for me at all, I get 30 fps and lower, day is kinda playable but it feels worse than before this big update.
if they had AI like ABI
or tarkov this would be solid!
ABI?
Arena Breakout Infinite. It's AI can recognise over 177.000 objects and can basically do stuff for you (help you in battle,inform about weather and stuff).
not sure about ABI but tarkov ai is ass xd
best enemy ai in a game is six days in fallujah hands down
Like Tarkov? Dude, the AI in Tarkov is some of the worst in the gaming industry
Let's be honest, this game being open world instead of instanced hurts it more than it helps it.
I disagree, I hate queuing in a lobby for a timed raid. The open world makes things far more dynamic then "pick a point in this world that doesn't actually exist in its full entirety"
@@gagesilvas9426 Just make larger, un-timed instanced maps. Problem solved.
In the games current state, the Open World doesn't really add much to the overall experience and a large majority of the map is more useless filler for your PC to have to process.
Since the update games ran really well. 1 tapped once. Probs my own fault. Inly one crash in 7 hrs of game play
Okay simp