When I put my high flow air cleaner on, slip ons, and the tuner, there was a very noticeable improvement in throttle response. Played with the custom sport mode, yeah highly recommend.
You're right. Just watched a new Thrashin Supply video. They put an exhaust/air cleaner, no tuner on it and took it to a dyno. Guy said it was badly out of tune and needed it soon
Thanks for the mention, I am going to do a Dyno Run on the Slip On Bam Sticks I just installed this weekend also and then after that I will do Wedge Air Cleaner and and SE Tuner and do another run so we will be able to see the differences at each stage. I have not decided if I can afford to do a CAM and if so which one... Bikes looking good! Love my new BAM Sticks, it is going to be almost 60 this weekend so I am going to go piss the neighbors off LOL
I have been running a Thundermax on my bikes for years. I have it on my ‘17 RGSpl with a H-D 114 stage IV kit. (114 was the top of the line when I bought the bike. Missed 117 by few months) But anyway. You will be very happy. The Thundermax will learn and tune while you ride. It is an awesome piece of technology.
I just got a 2024 SG. I love this it. You brought up great point how this is so good out of the box. Appreciate your views and expertise. Be safe brother
I never knew much about motorcycle mechanics except what I’ve learned from videos like yours, but like most teenagers back in the 70’s, I’ve spent more than a little time under the hood wrenching on a engine. I knew enough that I had a complete exhaust and Hi-flow air filter put on my bike before I ever took delivery of it. And it was tuned and Dyno’d as part of the process. Wasn’t looking for a big jump in power, just wanted the engine to run better, which it does!
Per Harley, a stage 1 is the following. Intake, Exhaust and tuner. When you select your exhaust, Haley Davidson list slip ons and one exhaust "System". It is not until you get to a stage IV do they list exhaust headers. Also when you order a stage IV it says purchase of slips-ons, intake and tuner required. So a stage 1 is intake, exhaust "slip ons", tuner.
lol that’s a stupid comment. The factory pipe is extremely heavily and garbage. I shed a lot of weight scraping it for a beautiful 2into1 stainless pipe. Slip ons are a waste of money to me. I also increased HP and TQ by getting rid of the duel shitty factory pipes and even with slip ons still not the power I got from a 2into1. I have a 23 Roadglide-ST. Why the hell i want to spend that kind of money to put slip ons. And when I do put a cam in my bike I will already have the expensive full pipe out the way. I think you’re an idiot. We all waste money on parts for our bikes.
I recently put my Screamin Eagle heavy breather back on my Twin Cam. I had an S&S Stealth on it for a while and had nothing but oil leaks from around the breather bolts especially the forward cylinder. I did everything I could to make it stop, but S&S expects you to use rubber coated metal washers as gaskets and they don't work as intended. So, from now on, I'll use Screamin Eagle intakes. The quality is much better.
Pro Monkey speaks the truth. Each year we run out to the desert and on brand new bikes, youll cool yourself in the middle of summer. we intentionally add fuel tuners to cool the bike down a touch. (of course we always do the high flow aircleaner to get more air up here at altitude. but just to ride more comfortably and to extend the longevity of these engines, we add more fuel.
@@ProfessionalMonkey absolutely - you have one of the best channels but I’d unique because you keep it real you don’t edit you don’t script - and you’re truly funny as hell. Merry Christmas to you and Mrs M and little M
I threw one of them on my 24 RG. Like you said… over the top. They are massive which is what I loved about it. Also as you said, it doesn’t actually get in your legs way
They stressed tuning even a stock bike when I went through Wyotech in Daytona. It was peak FI twin cam time when I went through their HD program. A I've heard dealers would throw some jets in stock carb bikes, so they would run cooler, during prep and unboxing of brand new bikes
I always heard that stage one is mainly healthy like ur saying but the “Throttle Response” is much better. Therefore with our “Imagination” prosperity’s 😎, it automatically makes ur bike “Faster” 😁 nice job bro🤘 And for the life of me and as much as u dig the older school “Roots” of the HD brand , why!??? Are you not running “Thunderheader” mufflers? The OG of Harley aftermarket exhaust! Unless ya just go straight pipe … naaaaaah 😊
The dealer boys call the slip on and air cleaner, a dirty stage one. Totally agree with you on the tune and I put the wedge on, and I could not get rid of that ugly air cleaner any faster. Some guys like it just not me. Looking good brother merry Christmas to you and your family.
I like this new setup. Way easier to vent the crank case into a catch can, now. That whole setup looks very well refined and high quality. The tuner ... Naja, better than nothing I guess.
The top tuner for that thunder Max has a shop in Menomonee, Wisconsin called Pistol Pete’s it also has another name it says racing name. I believe it’s his last name.
New air cleaner looks 100% better than the lunchbox that was on it to begin with it will be interesting to see what the old butt dyno has to say. Cheers from the Great White North.
Mr Monkey, Sir when you do the cam upgrade if you change the the tappets to the SE tappets please change the cuffs also... This may save you some frustration a little bit later on... Wishing Your Family and You a Very Safe and Merry Christmas...
If I understand the SE tuner correctly, once you put the initial tune into the bike, then do whatever auto(smart) tune you are going to do, then you can remove the tuner and won't need to plug it into the bike again until you want to retune the bike. Am I understanding this correctly?
I have the heavy breather on my 2020 cvo. I like the look but for a guy that is 6’2” it is had to deal with. It’s very uncomfortable because my leg is all over it and when I use the rear break I have to move my leg around it
I think you and your wife should look into getting a couple of dirt bikes, one for either you or your wife to ride and the other for your daughter that you can take to, I think they call crome so she can learn how to ride before she gets to 15 years of age. Nothing like experience before she's of age.
Does the need for a tuner go back to the early 2000’s? Probably should put a tuner on my ‘06 Deuce with full exhaust, high flow air intake and new cam. Wasn’t sure when they started coming out of the factory tuned super lean.
Ok so I have to ask what’s up with the flashing strobe on the TV? If you’re jamming out in the garage playing guitar and not sharing content I will be upset!! 😬
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When I put my high flow air cleaner on, slip ons, and the tuner, there was a very noticeable improvement in throttle response. Played with the custom sport mode, yeah highly recommend.
You're right. Just watched a new Thrashin Supply video. They put an exhaust/air cleaner, no tuner on it and took it to a dyno. Guy said it was badly out of tune and needed it soon
Thanks for the mention, I am going to do a Dyno Run on the Slip On Bam Sticks I just installed this weekend also and then after that I will do Wedge Air Cleaner and and SE Tuner and do another run so we will be able to see the differences at each stage. I have not decided if I can afford to do a CAM and if so which one... Bikes looking good! Love my new BAM Sticks, it is going to be almost 60 this weekend so I am going to go piss the neighbors off LOL
I have been running a Thundermax on my bikes for years.
I have it on my ‘17 RGSpl with a H-D 114 stage IV kit. (114 was the top of the line when I bought the bike. Missed 117 by few months)
But anyway. You will be very happy. The Thundermax will learn and tune while you ride. It is an awesome piece of technology.
I just got a 2024 SG. I love this it. You brought up great point how this is so good out of the box. Appreciate your views and expertise. Be safe brother
Appreciate that! I think this bike is seriously awesome stock.
I never knew much about motorcycle mechanics except what I’ve learned from videos like yours, but like most teenagers back in the 70’s, I’ve spent more than a little time under the hood wrenching on a engine. I knew enough that I had a complete exhaust and Hi-flow air filter put on my bike before I ever took delivery of it. And it was tuned and Dyno’d as part of the process. Wasn’t looking for a big jump in power, just wanted the engine to run better, which it does!
@@DWinthekeys absolutely. To me it’s about having a healthy bike.
Per Harley, a stage 1 is the following. Intake, Exhaust and tuner. When you select your exhaust, Haley Davidson list slip ons and one exhaust "System". It is not until you get to a stage IV do they list exhaust headers. Also when you order a stage IV it says purchase of slips-ons, intake and tuner required. So a stage 1 is intake, exhaust "slip ons", tuner.
A true stage 1 is full exhaust(heads/mufflers), air cleaner, dyno tune.
@@Since_84 Anyone the does full exhaust, intake and a dyno tune without doing a cam is an idiot and likes to waste money.
@@retiredarmyvet2018 Why are you worried about how the next man spends his money? You sound like a jealous woman.
lol that’s a stupid comment. The factory pipe is extremely heavily and garbage. I shed a lot of weight scraping it for a beautiful 2into1 stainless pipe. Slip ons are a waste of money to me. I also increased HP and TQ by getting rid of the duel shitty factory pipes and even with slip ons still not the power I got from a 2into1. I have a 23 Roadglide-ST. Why the hell i want to spend that kind of money to put slip ons. And when I do put a cam in my bike I will already have the expensive full pipe out the way. I think you’re an idiot. We all waste money on parts for our bikes.
@@Prometheus1979 So you spent almost $2000 for a full exhaust and got minimal gains. Good job idiot.
I recently put my Screamin Eagle heavy breather back on my Twin Cam. I had an S&S Stealth on it for a while and had nothing but oil leaks from around the breather bolts especially the forward cylinder. I did everything I could to make it stop, but S&S expects you to use rubber coated metal washers as gaskets and they don't work as intended. So, from now on, I'll use Screamin Eagle intakes. The quality is much better.
That's what the basic blue collar worker doess is a Stage 1 or 2. I have a Stage 2 SE on my 21 StreetGlide with a 107. I'm vary Happy with it.
Pro Monkey speaks the truth. Each year we run out to the desert and on brand new bikes, youll cool yourself in the middle of summer. we intentionally add fuel tuners to cool the bike down a touch. (of course we always do the high flow aircleaner to get more air up here at altitude. but just to ride more comfortably and to extend the longevity of these engines, we add more fuel.
Damn M- Man - you down play it -but it is indeed an education every time. Thank you for the video!
Thanks for watching!
@@ProfessionalMonkey absolutely - you have one of the best channels but I’d unique because you keep it real you don’t edit you don’t script - and you’re truly funny as hell.
Merry Christmas to you and Mrs M and little M
Crazy wasn’t expecting to see that behind the air cleaner cover. Filter looked out of place at first. Lol makes sense tho.
I threw one of them on my 24 RG. Like you said… over the top. They are massive which is what I loved about it. Also as you said, it doesn’t actually get in your legs way
Ok, I'm convinced. I was going to leave my bike stock, but now I'll be looking up options tonight on the direction I want to go.
They stressed tuning even a stock bike when I went through Wyotech in Daytona. It was peak FI twin cam time when I went through their HD program. A
I've heard dealers would throw some jets in stock carb bikes, so they would run cooler, during prep and unboxing of brand new bikes
I always heard that stage one is mainly healthy like ur saying but the “Throttle Response” is much better. Therefore with our “Imagination” prosperity’s 😎, it automatically makes ur bike “Faster” 😁 nice job bro🤘
And for the life of me and as much as u dig the older school “Roots” of the HD brand , why!??? Are you not running “Thunderheader” mufflers? The OG of Harley aftermarket exhaust! Unless ya just go straight pipe … naaaaaah 😊
Wow , looks like they took advantage of what trask and a1cycles has done with the vented trans cover 👍👍
Yes this is a stage 1
A true stage 1 is full exhaust(heads/mufflers), air cleaner, dyno tune.
It doesnt have to be headers. And any tune will do, not just a dyno tune.
@@Since_84
I'm guessing you meant headers, not heads.
The stock air cleaner is high flo. If you put aftermarket one on its mostley for looks.
Love that color. Garage is looking good fam.
Great share fam 🤙🏾
Miss you on the lives, harley!
The dealer boys call the slip on and air cleaner, a dirty stage one. Totally agree with you on the tune and I put the wedge on, and I could not get rid of that ugly air cleaner any faster. Some guys like it just not me. Looking good brother merry Christmas to you and your family.
@@BoDean52 our best to you and the wife bud!
Bike sounds tough 💪🏾🔥
I like this new setup. Way easier to vent the crank case into a catch can, now. That whole setup looks very well refined and high quality. The tuner ... Naja, better than nothing I guess.
Super clean
Santa should bring you a tripod for your camera 😂 Great videos
@@JohnAltherr-e3j I have one, I just suck at making videos.
Looks super sick fam.
Thanks Monkey for the great videos!
Appreciate it!
That air cleaner looks so much better!
The top tuner for that thunder Max has a shop in Menomonee, Wisconsin called Pistol Pete’s it also has another name it says racing name. I believe it’s his last name.
Looks good on there
Great song. Love me some Hank Jr
Lmbo! I would’ve never guessed! “ I like Hank”
@@lonecowboyadventures grew up on old country!
@ that’s cool
I grew up on both sides of fence country and city so I like all kinds of crazy shit
I’m a rock guy but man you can’t beat old old school country either. Love all the old outlaws.
🛑🛑 Merry Christmas, Buddy. 🎁🌲
Enjoy the Family, and the Holidays. 🎄🎁
Ok, for the first time, someone explains the lean process in a way my old ass brain understands.
I did the exact same combo you have. It made 96hp 113tq
Looks awesome !
Are you having a silent disco with the lights on the ceiling,
Mebbe…
I know you're gonna go crazy on this build but I'm digging the slow drip, average Joe approach.
Yet another reason to move to Florida.
The throttling body is different on the 24s and that is why the older intakes don't fit.
New air cleaner looks 100% better than the lunchbox that was on it to begin with it will be interesting to see what the old butt dyno has to say. Cheers from the Great White North.
Mr Monkey, Sir when you do the cam upgrade if you change the the tappets to the SE tappets please change the cuffs also... This may save you some frustration a little bit later on... Wishing Your Family and You a Very Safe and Merry Christmas...
I’ll go Feuling tappets like I did in the ST, and add S&S cuffs.
Happy for you Monkey on the new bike but does that tank badge give you a warm fuzzy 🤔. I think the motor company could have done better ☹️
Love the air cleaner but what about rain that aint gonna stop any water
Enjoyed the video.
Did you forget the Mac daddy for these new bikes? Impact tuner.
I’ve never run one.
Great video.
Personally I like your clips and I hope to meet you and mrs.monkey in sturgis this coming year.Please post where you'll be
I am doing a zippers cam down the road on my 24 cause the warranty is a thing
The stock bikes feel much better with a tune even without the exhaust and air cleaner
Where was that air cleaner made, USA. CHINA, TAIWAN? HAVE A BLESSED WEEK MY FRIEND
If I understand the SE tuner correctly, once you put the initial tune into the bike, then do whatever auto(smart) tune you are going to do, then you can remove the tuner and won't need to plug it into the bike again until you want to retune the bike. Am I understanding this correctly?
Yup, you can remove it but it doesn’t hurt anything to leave it
Copy that! I'm learning 😊@@ProfessionalMonkey
That tuner guy goes around the country and teaches how to tune on a thunder max.
sounds great! battery area any clean with ecm on side?
@@johnharbaugh6510 lots more room for sure. Also some new plugs that’s are different.
I have the heavy breather on my
2020 cvo. I like the look but for a guy that is 6’2” it is had to deal with. It’s very uncomfortable because my leg is all over it and when I use the rear break I have to move my leg around it
@@kellymchenry1944 that breather is different than this one, it’s tucked in closer to the motor.
Wishing the Monkey family a very
MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
Yep that’s a Stage 1 , i still struggle to like the new digital dashboard
lol Hank!!! 💪🏾
So I have a 2024 Street Glide that I have just put slip on mufflers for now. Did you notice any improvement with the air cleaner and tuner ?
What light strobe are using on your garage ceiling ? . I want one ! Thanks ...
Is that only for 24? LOVE that breather. Gotta get that, but my Road Glide is a 22
@@sharkboy_twentytwo8155 that have other snorkels for earlier models but this one is only for 24s and 23.5 CVOs
I’m interested to see what your thoughts are on impact wiring solutions ecm tuner?
@@ericarroyo5759 I’ve never tried one. I can see that it’s a replacement ECM like a ThunderMax, but it’s like $500 more for some reason?
Whiskey Red correct? Hank Jr Whiskey Bent and Hell Bound appropriate lol
I think you and your wife should look into getting a couple of dirt bikes, one for either you or your wife to ride and the other for your daughter that you can take to, I think they call crome so she can learn how to ride before she gets to 15 years of age. Nothing like experience before she's of age.
Lololol... Whiskey Bent and Hell Bound. How appropriate.
Does the need for a tuner go back to the early 2000’s? Probably should put a tuner on my ‘06 Deuce with full exhaust, high flow air intake and new cam. Wasn’t sure when they started coming out of the factory tuned super lean.
Oh hell yes!!!! Tuners go back quite a way. I’d be shocked if yours isnt already tuned.
@ it definitely rides like it is. No detonation. Need the local dealership to confirm if it has a stage 1 flash once the damn snow eventually melts.
@@bobhendren9843twin cams are really lean from the factory and the ECM can’t adjust at all like the M8 ECM will
The whole mapping the tuner is intimidating to me. I’m not a computer guy, but it’d be nice to know how to do it.
i cant seem to find it in Chrome ..
Was that 2, yes 2 on screen edits?? Oh my😂😂
@@DAytes-vp6is right? So much effort!
Why did you put the breather hose back in the intake? Can't you just put a filter on it and leave it off?
Mr. Monkey. You should try the Fullsac head pipe. You can retain the factory shields and it works very well for tuning.
So question for everyone
What if you just do head pipe and slip on exhaust but no air breather do you have to tune
Has no cat
Conniption? Didn't know anyone outside the midwest used that word anymore, lol
I’m from the Midwest!
@ProfessionalMonkey yes, but you are.. Outside. The midwest.
Great vid. Thanks. That brass fitting is a big fail. Ugly. Should be a welded chrome tube.
The Monkey is looking slim in the chrome reflection. Are you working out?
What is the screaming eagle tuner name brand is it a like 3 or 4 or a 5 tuner.
Sorry I don’t follow. It’s the only tuner you can buy from Harley.
Remove the catalytic converter, install Thundermax, you will be pleased.
Which windscreen is that if I may ask?
I can't seem to find the video on your site
8” Harley windshield.
Does your leg hit that high flow air cleaner?
@@kevingraham7735 not at all.
Se tuner calls slip ons and high-flow air cleaner stage one
Harley has had some instances that they lost legal decisions around warranty claim denials. From what I have heard.
No water issues with that air cleaner if you get caught in a downpour?
Thunder Maxx is definitely the way to go. I have been running one for years and nothing else comes close.
Sounds gruntier. Nice man
Ok so I have to ask what’s up with the flashing strobe on the TV? If you’re jamming out in the garage playing guitar and not sharing content I will be upset!! 😬
MY DAUGHTER WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER, DO NIT CROSS THREAD AND DO NOT STRIP THE HEAD 👍😱
Love watching you tell it like it is to all the idiots. 😂 keep it up Mr M. Happy Holidays to the Monkey family and followers!!
Fork reflectors!!!!! Lol
Are slip ons the same as just the tip? 😂
gotta a nice growl
🤙🏾👊🏾
As in all good monkey fashion things don't go right. Music is blaring to a fitting song (whiskey bent and hell bound). As always, good vid
@@FloridaBoilermaker great song, but bad timing!
A good way to cover the engine up. Hey monkey, is that a single cylinder Street Glide? Happy Hanukkah.
That's a stage 1.
Definitely the most stupidest design I’ve seen. Tiny Tims air cleaner.
@@seansimone-e6k ever thought to just say nothing rather than insult another man’s bike?
The stock bikes feel much better with a tune even without the exhaust and air cleaner