Circle Centre Mall (Indianapolis, Indiana) : A True Dead Mall Walking
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- Almost twenty years in the making (yes, really), Circle Centre Mall opened in downtown Indianapolis. After changing hands in 2024, its days may be numbered. Is this place already a dead mall? And why the British spelling?
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In September 2023, I visited the mall to check out how it was doing - although I gather it's declined since then - and document what might well turn out to be my final visit. Join me for an in-depth tour!
Predicted to cost $100 million, a figure that was later projected to hit $1 billion only to later drop to $300 million, there's a case to be made that this place is a huge failure. There's also a case to be made that it saved Indy's downtown. I'll let y'all be the judge once you've watched the video...
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I was a piano player at Nordstrom's in the mid-2000's! I had just graduated with my degree in music and one of my first jobs out of college was playing piano.
I remember playing the Sunday shift and taking breaks and watching Peyton Manning and the Colts when he broke the TD pass record!
Their 14-2 season in 2005...
I would get coffee drinks at the Nordstrom coffee bar on the 2nd floor
Talking to the cute girls that worked at Abercrombie near the west rotunda
Getting a cinnamon pretzel at the east rotunda
Buying video games at the GameStop on floor 2
Going to the P.F. Changs or Champps at the street level with my friends early on Saturdays before we stayed out late on Saturday nights
Love the Harry and Izzy's!
It was so vibrant!!!!!
And - the funny thing is - so much of Indy's downtown are so alive! I'm downtown 3 or 4 days a week.
But ---- this mall is dead.
Meanwhile... 10 miles to the northeast... two malls are thriving and they're within 2 miles of each other.
The whole retail area in the Castleton area is bustling and there's a lot of new stores up there.
Ciao.
It’s funny that I came across this video to see this. The actual funny part is that I live in Indianapolis and didn’t realize that this mall had declined this much, neither did I know it was declining at all. I used to love this mall, but now days I strangely find my self hardly going downtown for much of anything.
Anyways, thanks for the video. Quite interesting. It came up probably because I watched a video in Washington Square Mall on the east side of Indy that I also used to love which is in a worse situation than this. Hardly any stores open in that mall yet it’s still open to the public.
I was at Circle Centre Mall opening day in 1995, and I recall the place being absolutely packed. Shoppers were squeezing past each other in L. S. Ayres, shoulder to shoulder, gazing in wonder at how the historic department store had been transformed. I'd say mismanagement is largely responsible for the mall's decline. As it is connected to multiple hotels and the convention center, and within walking distance to plenty of new residential construction, there is no reason why it should be struggling, other than Simon has sadly let it become a place no one really wants to visit.
The crowd can be a little rough after dark. People get scared.
There's a habit in place naming in America to use British spellings of words like "Centre" and "Theatre" when you want to make the name scan as official or upscale. It's basically the real estate equivalent of casting British actors for the evil mastermind role in movies. It's actually very common once you start looking for it.
Great video and commentary. I live in Indy and remember going once or twice in the 90s when I was a teenager to Circle Center. I never went to Washington Square Mall, it was really getting bad and now is a place you need full body armor to go near. I work close to the Washington Square mall and I don't feel safe going inside these dead malls. Closest mall to me now is Greenwood's mall but I haven't been since a hero stopped a coward. Enjoy your videos, great work and stay safe!
I had several visits at this mall in my youth in the early mid 1990s-early 2000s. In fact, I was one of its original customers when it first opened. It wasnt my favorite mall (I lived closer to Greenwood Park Mall) and because its very cramped compared to suburban malls which have a lot of space. There use to be a lot of people here, shoppers and shortcut(ers) especially on the weekends. Its so weird looking at how empty it is because it was crowded mall in its day. Also, born and raised in Indy and never knew that IndiaNAPolis was the origin of "naptown." Great video man.
9:26 Hey I used to go to school there! Purdue University opened a high school in downtown Indianapolis and had two years spent inside Circle Centre, I have a lot of fond memories of this place and I go back several times a year to just walk around and remember everything. I've seen its decline first hand, especially after COVID, and it was really rough to see. I still love this mall dearly, and it's such a shame of the state that it's in.
I used to come over to circle center on occasion. I would always stop by the arcade there for a bit. They had machines for the first 2 Marvel Vs Capcom games. Since I lost my car, the shops are closing, and the mvc games are available at home now, I sadly have little reason or means to go back there now. Lots of fun memories though.
Nice looking and well maintained. It's a shame how cold and dead it looks
Yeah, it’s a nice looking spot! Getting quieter by the day though…
The last time I was in that mall was in 2012. It was still really busy then. The world's changing fast.
My first trip was in the 90s. Not much to say, as I was too young to have expendable income and it was busy AF.
I moved downtown in 2013 and it was BOOMING. Carly Rae Jepson "I just met you" was on the mall's vertically-oriented flatscreens.. their own TV network. The walkways were crowded, the food court was shoulder-to-shoulder. Lawless, Looper, Star Trek Into Darkness, Great Gatsby, Expendables sequels, nerds from gen-con flocking to the theater to do MST3K sarcasm at the screens during those days.. the college was still up and running. The arcade was half full at any given time. The parking garage was full and you had to walk from the outskirts to the mall, oftentimes.
Everything went slowly downhill.. it wasnt until covid hit that it became the ghost town that it is. The riot did a number on it, too. The verizon store was thrashed, gamestop moved out shortly after, etc.
You make such good videos, and great commentary. I have seen a few locations with the British spelling like the iconic San Francisco Centre.
They're bringing in the first remodel crews in a week and a half, according to the night security.
Me and my buddies have been flying fpv drones in there after the stores close.
I'll see what i can do about snagging one of those fountain frogs
I went to the mall in 2019 when I went to Gen Con. There also was a Johnny Rockets at the food court. It was sort of dead back then and it looks deader now. I used it as a shortcut to get to other places.
The mall gave me a weird vibe went I went there.
As a lifelong resident and frequent shopper at that mall about 20 years ago, it's always felt weird and had weird vibes. I thought it was just me.
Great video 👏 The centre thing is so weird, I hate when you can’t get answers to stuff like that
Is the energy bill and upkeep what kills these? Being attached to a dozen different attractions/hotels, how could this not be the one case for indoor shopping to survive? Simon did an open air in my area and people pack that thing every summer sweating their asses off (Pier Park in Panama City Beach Fl.)
Thanks for video.
It's interesting how these kinds of downtown malls almost never work in America, but do a lot better in Canada. The Eaton Centre in Toronto has some of the highest foot traffic in North America, and then you have malls like the CORE in Calgary, the Rideau Centre in Ottawa, the Pacific Centre in Vancouver, and a bunch of mall in Montreal including Centre Eaton. Even a smaller city like Hamilton has Jackson Square, which isn't in the best shape but it still a lot more lively than most American downtown malls
Yes! Visited many malls like this in Canada with good foot traffic. I wonder if the fact that more consistently cold weather makes going through these places part of people’s routines in a way that it doesn’t somewhere like Indy?
Fun fact: I was considering moving to Hamilton for a while!
@@DeadMallWalking I noticed that city centre malls also seem to do better in the U.K. and Ireland. Even smaller cities like Inverness and Galway had malls that were in much better shape than almost anything you'd see in the U.S.
Someone bought the property from Simon and they are doing a 600 million dollar renovation to the whole building. It will become more residential with other restaurants as well as Office Space. It will be AMAZING
They also closed off almost all their public restrooms for some reason. Not sure where their remaining shoppers are supposed to go when they do have to “go” 🤷
Is there any way to find out what stores used to be in the mall? There was a grunge or skate shop that used to be in the mall that I don’t remember the name.
Circle Centre Mall was a big deal when it opened...not so much now. 😢
Went in there to kill time before going to an event last year and never want to go back. Nasty place just like the city of Indianapolis.
I'd pay to walk through one of these. Has to be empty of course.
A really interesting mall and one which genuinely seems a shame to loose
It really is just a short cut to the convention center ... only places I ever went to where the toy store and the theater
Can you do Washington Square Mall In Indianapolis?
I am now envisaging a circle mall, where its basically a doughnut shape, with shops along the outside edge and a garden area in the middle visible at all times from the circular covered walkway of the doughnut, and in the centre of that garden area small food stands with their seating areas aranged in rather like a pizza formation with each establishment owning the area of a slice. maybe I'm just hungry.
Maybe you should stop using meth.
Actually, the planning started off poorly. While we anxiously awaited and salivated for a Nordstrom's to arrive at the Circle center, when they did so they brought "Hoosier-ized" merchandise, not what we were expecting as which was stocked at the Seattle stores. Other than excellent shoe offerings and a fabulous coffee shop with delicious sweets, Nordstrom's added little to the downtown experience. Some resturants initally added to it's welcomed presence, but that quickly changed as well. Reports of gang activity in the cinema and outside area also contributed to its declince. Secondly, and perhaps more importantly relating to its downfall, was a quickly instituted pay for parking scheme on the once free parking downtown streets. Pay-meters became the downfall of downtown shopping. If I could do the same shopping at Suburban malls with less of a drive and free surface parking, there is no need to pay to park downtown. I can count on one hand the number of times I have since done shopping in downtown indianapolis, this was a criminal oversight which eventually killed off the mall and many of our downtown merchants.
The state of the Mall in 2024 is very sad.
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Shopping - Changed.
"Acquiring Things" happens differently now.
Going out to spend money and walk around with bags of purchases from multiple shops ... that whole concept became dangerous and unrealistic
aive. Theft and security and high rental fees and less physical sales ...
It's not needed for what it once -was
(Signed, a protectionist who handled film in theaters before digital perfection made film obsolete)
I used to be a security guard at this mall for a long time. It was a fun place to work. Good times. Sad to see it like this.
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For a mall that has been open for nearly 30 years, it has better Google reviews than my local mall. 4.1/5 isn’t that bad really when you’re a mall operator working with a mall at 60% occupancy. It’s probably more alive than other urban malls such as Steamtown Mall in downtown Scranton PA, a city that nearly went bankrupt after the 2008 recession but has still survived to this day probably with the help of their local mall. I’d trade this mall for my local mall any day. The fact that they’re going to tear it down to build an open air space is kinda a waste if you ask me. I hope this mall survives longer than expected.
A disgusting place to go. Never was a decent mall. I first visited it back in the beginning....... during Black expo......
All my child hood memories this was the place to be on Saturday go to Johnny rockets play some arcade games then a movie all that fun for under $30 rode the city bus there let you off by tj Maxx side go to sam goodey an listen to cds what a time to be American 🇺🇸
This place was still pretty busy in 2016.
Such a shame, it's a beautiful mall!!!
With online shopping and delivery, who would want to spend all day walking around looking for the products they want?
Can you do a vid of Crompton Place in Bolton? Your chance to get one last glimpse before it goes.
If you went to World Mardi Gras then you can comment. Otherwise your opinion on WHY / DOES NOT MATTER!