@@jeanvaljean6433 not completely useless though. For a Bennettless wanderer, 4pcs noblesse might be useful but am not sure about Mika's base atk. Will check Mika lvl 80 + favonius lance.
reminder : Genshin has a cap for attack speed, somewhere between 163~164%. So the third Razor has 25% useless attack speed.(but still YunJin and Mika are 2 awesome supports for him)
razor prefer bloom teammates and its his best comps since the introduction of dendro element, also hit lag exist for claymore user so these two are not a suitable teammates for him
@@Grace-qr2oj "These two are not a suitable teammates for him" Dude, the introduction of dendro doesn't make his first and intended kit (Physical DPS) just non existent. Physical Razor is still very viable and with Mika it's even more viable now with the Speed Buff, 10% Physical Damage Passive and Free 60% Crit DMG at C6 (if you manage to get of course). Also Atk Speed doesn't affect Hit Lag. Hitlag is why tho his Ult has a 5s downtime, you can even get to go beyond 20s sometimes and ult immediately after it ends. I currently main him with Rosaria / Yunjin / Mika and it slaps. (Also people can and will use teams outside of meta. Just because "Dendro" Razor is the better, doesn't make units like Mika and Yunjin not suitable for him all of the suddenly)
@@TheGusst2Gamer yeah. That’s what he said. Eula can gain 200% ATK speed but her hit lag is so long you have that double attack speed for only half your animations, making it worse
Also Wanderer does like 3X damage, he doesn’t have hitlag due to his catalyst, so attack speed buffs are hindered less by hitlag and are more noticeable
@@zodiacsagittarius344 you can't exactly get rid of hp bar tho, but it is there to see how much more damage you can get with attack speed only hence no other buff
I have c2 Jean and I use her for my wanderer so when I pull mika I’m gonna test Jean+yunjin+mika+wanderer BIS But it should be comparable to the video here because they used his artifact set which gives 10 speed and Jean c2 gives 12
For Ayato yea, he got 4 extra slashes out of the deal, which isn't bad at all I don't think. That on average like 32k extra damage (on the low side), assuming each Slash does about 8k per hit, not even taking his weapon/Echo's into account.
For wanderer at base he can dish out 17 NAs. With his gear and support, it’s 23 NAs, giving him an extra 6 NAs while flying. This isn’t counting the first CA he did while buffed
Its even more noticeable with Yoimiya C6 and Wanderer C6: Yoimiya because more NAs=more chance to proc her C6. With Wanderer's C6 every NA is now duplicated with the duplicates dealing 40% of the original dmg. At lower constellations its much more noticeable on Ayato because of his Shunsuiken's ATK speed, at 33% ATK Speed from Mika lvl 9 E and Yunjin C6, its alrdy the equivalent of 5 extra Shunsuikens, possibly 1 more if you animation cancel his E with maxed lvl 13 Mika E.
I'm glad they are making new weapons and characters to make old ones viable again, whether they intended to or not. Between Burgeon Diluc with Mailed Flower to Razor + Mika comps, I am happy two of my mains from when the game first launched are slowly climbing back into the meta again.
How would Klee work with Mika? She's so slow and clunky that extra attack speed would be good. Plus she does some physical DMG, so he would buff her DMG(ever so slightly) as well. I have both, but I don't really want to raise Mika if he's not that good when I have other characters I could focus on right now.
Oh right, Yujin is the Normal Attack buffing queen since Yelan and Xingqui have cooldowns on their effects. I still can't say how strong this setup is but at least it's a new type of team to build. Too bad I don't have Yomiya or Yelan though.
There is a one little thing. That’s all very very good, especially Ayato and Wanderer, but here compared single gameplay and with 2 supports. BUT. Everyone should understand the difference: I mean, for sure it can be one of the powerful one, but you also can take Elan and Bennet / Faruzan. And dealt damage may be the same +-
For me it depends if you have C6 Yunjin then go for her instead Mika she buff normal and speed 12%~C6 While Mika only buff Speed and PHYSICAL, idk about his C6 i only know he buff PHYSICAL Crit dmg If you are having fun for more Speed than buffing DMG then Mika is the choice 😅😅
Depends on comfort. And also you can use them together. But overall strength, Yunjin's NA buff is still better than mika's speed buff especially at c6, but the main difference i can find is that yunjin's heavy 80 cost burst vs mika's speed with just his skill. Both are favonius users, Even at c0 mika is very comfortable to use, his healing is a burst heal with additional for the nxt 15 seconds, more flexible to play and pretty much can replace bennett in other teams. (with the exemption of sometimes his crossbow miss if the terrain is not flat in overworld, which sucks cause the cooldown is so long)
@@hog233 ah yes. I forgot about that. My mistake. I forgot about Mika and Yunjin. So probably no desert pavilion, replaced instead with 4 set attack increase artifacts.
From what i can see and tested. Mika is a good unit with lots of utilities. Not that ground breaking (excpet for the atk spd buff) but very useful in certain team nonetheless. I cant see and cannot understand how he is a bad unit like alot of ppl think?
He just doesn't work well with any of the physical carries we have and the buffs he provides are very meager compared to the other niche buffers. The only "proper" physical carries are eula and razor and attackspeed doesn't benefit them much due to the extreme hitlag of the weapon type, his physical damage buff is just 10% against a single target and goes up to 20 with all cons which is very little (it will go a bit higher against multiple enemies but that usually isn't where you need the damage) in addition all of his buffs are only for the on field character without any linger (benents attack buff takes a very short while to go away when switching out for example) including the cdmg buff from c6 meaning that eula won't benefit from any of his buffs if you need to pre-explode the burst which is awful, furthermore he has the worst cryo application in the game, he can neither do 100% uptime superconduct by himself nor help with any kind of shield which is something physical struggles with, I personally don't mind the last two but all in all this is why people feel like he is bad, I think it's also because physical is in a really really bad spot currently and could've used a very strong buffer to at least help a bit, which mika just isn't.
Would be amazing if you did these tests on live not a private/media server. Why? Because the media/private servers don't have an ASPD cap so all of your information is suspect and false. But you got it big fella, got the early clicks
bro what should i say.... 150% should be not a buff, it should be this fast to begin with... some units are not playable with her current atkspeed.... anyways 7ds Origins is near yeay
Ayato and Wanderer suddenly feel motivated
I know this from the leak and when I heard that he buffs 25% attack speed I thought it was nuts
@@laurencedioscorides6551 also cryo infusion in scara skill is a Good thing cause the crit rate buff
@@laurencedioscorides6551 It's completely useless because he's a physical support
@@jeanvaljean6433 not completely useless though. For a Bennettless wanderer, 4pcs noblesse might be useful but am not sure about Mika's base atk. Will check Mika lvl 80 + favonius lance.
@@jeanvaljean6433 Any support will always be used.
Bro the vast difference is in ayato literally he got 4 extra slashes and wanderer as well he got more slashes I couldn't count
Speed on Ayato feels so satisfying because he doesn't have an attack string like others so there isn't delay because of atk string animation
@@paras1670 yeah most satisfying and that sound is also good
@@paras1670he still has hit lag so it’s less effective still vs archers and some catalysts
Razor on the other hand didn't seem to get a boost at all? It looked like a glitch or he is just capped
the 100% Ayato on this video is weird, mine doesn't attack that slow.
From now on i had no regret to pull Mika on any banner
Really? From this one video you have been convinced mika is a good unit?
@@thebeast5215 for atk speed and healing,yes.But depends on what your character are you using and team comp
Same his attack speed buff just feels so satisfying and like added 2 more hits on some chars
He is quite fun and easy to use in overworld and since his buff r primarily in his elemental skill... it is easy to use & execute as well.
@The Beast he is kinda niche but it is nice to have something new
Great video. I was here for wanderer though lol
Same
reminder : Genshin has a cap for attack speed, somewhere between 163~164%. So the third Razor has 25% useless attack speed.(but still YunJin and Mika are 2 awesome supports for him)
razor prefer bloom teammates and its his best comps since the introduction of dendro element, also hit lag exist for claymore user so these two are not a suitable teammates for him
Not to mention characters with hit lag benefit less from atk speed increases.
@@Grace-qr2oj "These two are not a suitable teammates for him"
Dude, the introduction of dendro doesn't make his first and intended kit (Physical DPS) just non existent.
Physical Razor is still very viable and with Mika it's even more viable now with the Speed Buff, 10% Physical Damage Passive and Free 60% Crit DMG at C6 (if you manage to get of course). Also Atk Speed doesn't affect Hit Lag. Hitlag is why tho his Ult has a 5s downtime, you can even get to go beyond 20s sometimes and ult immediately after it ends.
I currently main him with Rosaria / Yunjin / Mika and it slaps.
(Also people can and will use teams outside of meta. Just because "Dendro" Razor is the better, doesn't make units like Mika and Yunjin not suitable for him all of the suddenly)
@@zephyrseija Hit Lag Duration isn't affected by Atk Speed.
@@TheGusst2Gamer yeah. That’s what he said. Eula can gain 200% ATK speed but her hit lag is so long you have that double attack speed for only half your animations, making it worse
its so noticeable with ayato omg-
It’s the Yunjin that buffs his dmg by a lot and on top of that Mika allows you to proc hits more often
Also Wanderer does like 3X damage, he doesn’t have hitlag due to his catalyst, so attack speed buffs are hindered less by hitlag and are more noticeable
@@BoringEditor Its not only about the dmg, but the speed
My Ayato doesn't attack that slow without yunjin or mika. This video is so flawed.
Man ayato is just like a some samurai in anime. That speed with the buffs is so satisfying
Wanderer has shown great diff👍💚
I think you could’ve brought this further by using Mika first before Yunjin so she can trigger crystallize and gain extra def from her passive
it wouldn't increase the atk speed, only the dmg buff
@@tsumi_4809 yea but he’s showcasing the dmg buff too anyway, cuz we have the boss’ hp bar to visualise
@@zodiacsagittarius344 you can't exactly get rid of hp bar tho, but it is there to see how much more damage you can get with attack speed only hence no other buff
@@zodiacsagittarius344 it says Attack speed boost on the title. Illiterate!💀
And they needed to hit enemy with skill first to react before casting her burst.
You could add Jean C2 to the formula, she gives extra +15% ATK speed for 15 secs
And chongyu
@@BennettoEhe Yeah, but that doesn't work for Wanderer/Yoimiya
@@xNihiliusx but for the mika do 💅
I have c2 Jean and I use her for my wanderer so when I pull mika I’m gonna test Jean+yunjin+mika+wanderer BIS
But it should be comparable to the video here because they used his artifact set which gives 10 speed and Jean c2 gives 12
@@BennettoEhe uhh, we re testing Mika's buff on others but ay,if u did manage to try it out, good for u. Though theres a cap for atk speed.
Razor's last clip also had damage from superconduct, while the 180% speed can't be reached as Genshin caps speed at 160%.
This and hit lag on claymore characters pretty heavily stunts attack speed buffs.
Mika is a great buff for AS plus he heals the whole team! Great team comp for Wanderer , Ayato, Yoimiya and so many more!
I was waiting for this video to pop up somewhere😂
lol has anyone counted the amount of extra attacks they do
For Ayato yea, he got 4 extra slashes out of the deal, which isn't bad at all I don't think. That on average like 32k extra damage (on the low side), assuming each Slash does about 8k per hit, not even taking his weapon/Echo's into account.
For wanderer at base he can dish out 17 NAs. With his gear and support, it’s 23 NAs, giving him an extra 6 NAs while flying. This isn’t counting the first CA he did while buffed
For the last time: attack speed caps and does not go above somewhere around 166%.
Damn wanderer is killing it
Claymore hitlag: "Let me introduce myself."
On Fischl's Case, try the R5 Compound Bow
Smells like wanderer rerun
Yoimiya is pretty much "anyway I started blasting" meme.
Wanderer so fast
yoimiya really benefits from atk spd buffs and it's crazy how it's only like 30+ atk spd was added and she's already slaying
Its even more noticeable with Yoimiya C6 and Wanderer C6: Yoimiya because more NAs=more chance to proc her C6. With Wanderer's C6 every NA is now duplicated with the duplicates dealing 40% of the original dmg.
At lower constellations its much more noticeable on Ayato because of his Shunsuiken's ATK speed, at 33% ATK Speed from Mika lvl 9 E and Yunjin C6, its alrdy the equivalent of 5 extra Shunsuikens, possibly 1 more if you animation cancel his E with maxed lvl 13 Mika E.
Wow this is so cool !
Next do the test with arataki itto & eula please 🙏
I'm glad they are making new weapons and characters to make old ones viable again, whether they intended to or not. Between Burgeon Diluc with Mailed Flower to Razor + Mika comps, I am happy two of my mains from when the game first launched are slowly climbing back into the meta again.
How would Klee work with Mika? She's so slow and clunky that extra attack speed would be good. Plus she does some physical DMG, so he would buff her DMG(ever so slightly) as well. I have both, but I don't really want to raise Mika if he's not that good when I have other characters I could focus on right now.
And im just here vibin with the music beat wanderer makes with atk speed buff😆😆
Also Yunjin buffs normal attacks so Yoimiya's last attack has higher damage
Can you do a DMG test with that Wanderer build, Mika, Yunjin c6 and Faruzan c6 if possible?
Who knew Mika was a wanderer support all along?
Oh right, Yujin is the Normal Attack buffing queen since Yelan and Xingqui have cooldowns on their effects.
I still can't say how strong this setup is but at least it's a new type of team to build. Too bad I don't have Yomiya or Yelan though.
There is a one little thing. That’s all very very good, especially Ayato and Wanderer, but here compared single gameplay and with 2 supports. BUT. Everyone should understand the difference:
I mean, for sure it can be one of the powerful one, but you also can take Elan and Bennet / Faruzan. And dealt damage may be the same +-
Freeing up valuable characters like Yelan and Bennett can be very helpful, if you have multiple teams that use them.
cap AS 162%
for the future
Another fine addition to my Psy Fischl team
Machine gun fischl now becomes minigun fischl
D: y yo con una Junjin c1 ... para lo demas solo me falta la c6 de ella y un Mika para que mi Scara pegue mas rapido xD
With Scara, just add Faruzan and you're ready to go!
or Jean to increase atkspeed too
So who do we remove in the team? Is it worth removing kazuha or bennett in that team for mika?
ayato goes from
shing...shing...shing...shing to shinshinshinshinshin
Best Yu Jin Ad ever
I got mika just gor the extra speed. It's funny how that is really viable since fast attackers will profit a lot from it.
Can you try comparing Gorou broken normal attack canceling with and without yunjin and mika buffs? Thank you
The charged attack of wanderer...
He need it to activate desert pavilion passive
what is your razor build!? (asking cause I am a razor main)
I wondered will they work together. This is crazy
I just need a Mika to test him out together with Chongyun and Ayato.
Justo lo que buscaba, ayato modo vergil
I tried Mika with just Wanderer+weapon+art and its speed chef’s kiss. It gets faster with c6 Yunjin.
For wanderer with Mika. We run skyward atlas 💅
I pulled mika just for my Ayato-sama ❤
man I wish I had C1 Fischl
Imagine if you had her C6. You’d have also automated electro attack following your NAs all the time, too, if I’m not mistaken.;P
wait, does doing charged attack before wanderer's e not proc desert pavilion??????
Fontaine needs a Xinquiu cryo, for now I go with Layla.
Xingqiu as a cryo would be a freaking blessing for my Yoimiya-
Xingqiu cryo, Yoimiya become the strongest dps, and Hu Tao will be banned from Genshin 4ever😂
Meanwhile gorou machine gun trick 😏
equip skyward blade on Ayato, use his burst then start slashing 🤩
Imagine C6 Wanderer with those 2 supports 🤣
What's wrong with your Ayato? my 100% Ayato doesn't attack that slow lol. You should redo it.
Me with Diona : I see
What if it’s just Mika’s buff? not everyone has a C6 Yunjin.
What's the atk spd% cap again?
Is C1 mika worth replacing Yun jin with wanderer?
For me it depends
if you have C6 Yunjin then go for her instead Mika she buff normal and speed 12%~C6
While Mika only buff Speed and PHYSICAL, idk about his C6 i only know he buff PHYSICAL Crit dmg
If you are having fun for more Speed than buffing DMG then Mika is the choice 😅😅
Maybe 20 CR (cryo) + heal + 22% atk spd + phys dmg (really niche with skyward atlas or eye of perception)
Depends on comfort. And also you can use them together.
But overall strength, Yunjin's NA buff is still better than mika's speed buff especially at c6, but the main difference i can find is that yunjin's heavy 80 cost burst vs mika's speed with just his skill.
Both are favonius users, Even at c0 mika is very comfortable to use, his healing is a burst heal with additional for the nxt 15 seconds, more flexible to play and pretty much can replace bennett in other teams.
(with the exemption of sometimes his crossbow miss if the terrain is not flat in overworld, which sucks cause the cooldown is so long)
@@asterion3587 Mika uses poleram tho
@@Zuk789 ??? Wanderer uses catalyst tho
66 whishes and still without Mika :'(
Test for Rasaria pls !
Does this also works with Yelan?
Lvly :3 thnx for the vid ❤
And you forgot to use Jean with the constellation that gives you atk speed as well
0:47 thank god the video paused
Do for Tartalita
Imagine Wanderer C1. Would it be possible? Or would the ATK SPD cap?
It will cap
No. As the limit of the attack speed is around 160%. So with C1, desert pavilion and his weapon, you have a total of 130% increase of attack speed.
@@justingarcia5012 bro what we are talking about wanderer with mika and yunjin how in the world he will reach only 130% its 167% with c1
@@hog233 ah yes. I forgot about that. My mistake. I forgot about Mika and Yunjin. So probably no desert pavilion, replaced instead with 4 set attack increase artifacts.
I have Ayato ,un jin and Mika but I am not sure if Mika very useful for Ayato, even I don't have mora 🙂
eula and itto pls!
True name of the video (With team, whitout team) 😌, Now compare un the site o solo With zhongli Bennet and. In the other site Juan Ying AND Mika 👍
Lets go Genshin, indulcing tendinitis
From what i can see and tested. Mika is a good unit with lots of utilities. Not that ground breaking (excpet for the atk spd buff) but very useful in certain team nonetheless.
I cant see and cannot understand how he is a bad unit like alot of ppl think?
He is not good for physical teams as advertised.
He just doesn't work well with any of the physical carries we have and the buffs he provides are very meager compared to the other niche buffers.
The only "proper" physical carries are eula and razor and attackspeed doesn't benefit them much due to the extreme hitlag of the weapon type, his physical damage buff is just 10% against a single target and goes up to 20 with all cons which is very little (it will go a bit higher against multiple enemies but that usually isn't where you need the damage) in addition all of his buffs are only for the on field character without any linger (benents attack buff takes a very short while to go away when switching out for example) including the cdmg buff from c6 meaning that eula won't benefit from any of his buffs if you need to pre-explode the burst which is awful, furthermore he has the worst cryo application in the game, he can neither do 100% uptime superconduct by himself nor help with any kind of shield which is something physical struggles with, I personally don't mind the last two but all in all this is why people feel like he is bad, I think it's also because physical is in a really really bad spot currently and could've used a very strong buffer to at least help a bit, which mika just isn't.
at least say that you're recording on a private server 💀kinda spreading misinformation 💀
I wish i got mika c6 but i have only c4, poor my eula
Would be amazing if you did these tests on live not a private/media server.
Why?
Because the media/private servers don't have an ASPD cap so all of your information is suspect and false.
But you got it big fella, got the early clicks
Never have I've ever been so frustrated seeing someone use razor
You are missing Jean's c2
No jean c2? u.u
Hey Nim are you aware that a certain youtuber made a critique video on your attack speed comparison video?
Lmao it’s not even an hour yet
Who?
@@No-cc1fq ^^
try them with c2 jean too
And skyward blade
does it work with cyno?
it look like there's a cap for atk speed
Bro Wanderer almost killed the boss. 😛😛😛
Where is eula 😂
Great display
почему от этого босса звук как от соседа в 6 утра
Do wanderer
What’s about physical zhongli
now try fischl with the compound bow
bro what should i say.... 150% should be not a buff, it should be this fast to begin with... some units are not playable with her current atkspeed.... anyways 7ds Origins is near yeay
Is C0 Mika good? Or I need to get his C6? 🤔
C6 is really only a must if you main Eula
@@Aivur.Marshmallow thnx i got him C4 yesterday xD
C6 is for physical character, for othes just c0 is fine.
do with c2 jean plsss
more speed more dps
I tried this with chongyun and ayato with skyward blade 😅
what about Chongyun E Skill
What does yun Jin do?
Yunjin c6 give 12% atk speed
@@el-4002 oh alright noted thanks for info
Also NA dmg boost
Why does Ayato keep stealing everything from Ayaka's banners lol
it supposed to be eula banner 😭😭
Keep stealing? Whats the previous one?
He is the big brother
No jin?