@@chocolateneko9912 He can read it but it won't impact the same as Revelation and Genesis. Those books are read with fire (That fits Joshua's voice) while the book Psalms is more calm and passionate.
@@fr.Angel21 I can see your point and I agree but I just really like the Psalms, also Joshua has that low deep voice which could sound good even though it's meant for fire. God bless you. ☦️
I don't think anyone ever got in such trouble for rejecting the Filioque (it's much more likely someone would get in trouble for accepting it), so not sure what you're referencing with this joke.
@@servus_incognitus The joke is that in Fallout Caesar killed Joshua Graham for failing in battle, but in some alternate timeline he could have a different reason
glory of dumb sheeps ., i love part where some prophets say that catholic church are holly thru holly spirit!? best stupid part ever., nobody dont say ever which one prophets say that because everyone with brain knows that Catholicism dont admit any prophets after Jesus except themself
"The fire that had kept me alive was love. Their love. God's love. I will never be able to repay the debt I owe to them, but I must try". "I have been baptized twice, once in water, once in flame. I will carry the fire of the holy spirit inside until I stand before my Lord for judgment".
Converted recently and have been practicing my prayers. I start with the creed and end with it. So far my prayer sessions are about 10-15mins now. Just got to build me a prayer/icon corner now. Edit: Im now a Catechumen.
I prefer the translation "seen and unseen" instead of "visible and invisible" but this is great. I went to catholic church but never went through confirmation, we would say it like that.
"Visible and invisible" is a direct translation, for sure. As a kid I used to go to Archangel Michael's church placed in my city's Kremlin (yes, Russia has more than one Kremlin, I live in city founded in 1221 and I think the church itself was from around that century, built slightly later than the city, Bolsheviks couldn't blow it up because of something, so it survived unlike cathedral I went to as an adult which is being rebuilt since 00s. They've almost completed reconstruction from what I've noticed) and I still partially remember the creed, it was part of every service. I'm planning on going to church again soon, guess I better get a memo.
He's a character from Fallout: new vegas. He's an ex "Legionnaire" who commited horrible acts until he failed his Caesar; being set on fire and thrown into the grand canyon as punishment. There, native tribes of the area saved him and he promised to help them in return, eventually he became a Mormon and started studiying the bible again. For a video game character, he's very well written.
Joshua Graham is a character from the video game "Fallout: New Vegas". In the game he is a Mormon, and if I remember correctly he quotes the bible a few times
I will remember to pray the Akathist to our father among the Saints Chad (Ceadda) the Wonderworker, Bishop and Confessor of Lichfield in 13 days when it is truly March 2nd. ☦🇬🇬
@@fornost64 I'm gonna be honest, I could not care less about the calendar debate. I am glad you are going to pray the Akathist to our father among the Saints Chad (Cheadda) the Wonderworker, Bishop, and Confessor of Lichfield on March 2nd ☦
Then you are super ignorant, mormonists do not believe that Christ is part of the Godhead, not an christian , do not EVER say things like this on the internet where dumb people will follow anything that is being said
@@Branwolfe1 I’m not telling you what you should or should not believe, so your response makes no sense to me. I’m telling you what that character would canonically believe based on how he was written. If he had been written as a Catholic or Protestant, it would make perfect sense for him to. You might as well assert that Muslims worship Tom Cruise.
I believe in one God, Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all ages; Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten, not created, of one essence with the Father through Whom all things were made. Who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary and became man. He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered and was buried; And He rose on the third day, according to the Scriptures. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father; And He will come again with glory to judge the living and dead. His kingdom shall have no end. And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Creator of life, Who proceeds from the Father, Who together with the Father and the Son is worshipped and glorified, Who spoke through the prophets. In one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church. I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the age to come. Amen.
Leave the Catholic church before you're destroyed by being partakers with them. They practice blatant idolatry and paganism. Making statues, bowing down to them, kissing them. God hates this stuff, and it's what he warned you not to do 1 million times in the Bible. Revelation 9:20 20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: And the pagan celebrations they adopted like Christmas and Easter are abominations in the eyes of God. He explicitly says not to learn the way of the heathen but the Catholic church took pleasure in it. And teaching the Sun god day Sabbath they inherited from Rome is exactly the problem the Messiah had with the Pharisees: Mark 7:6-7 6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. 7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. If Catholicism was the true church of God then they would have the sign of the everlasting covenant between God and his people, the Sabbath (Exodus 31:16-17), which is on Saturday, but they don't, and Jude 1:3-4 and 3 John 1:9-10 warned you about the wolves who infiltrated the church and kicked out the real apostles. So, quit relying on men when God gave you his word. The church is not the author of the Bible, God used them to preserve it, and they even threw out books like Enoch and Jubilees that are quoted several times in the New Testament. Yeshua, the Messiah, taught obedience to his Father's commandments, you don't get to eat pork, break the Sabbath, and do pagan idolatry now. You have to repent from these sins or you'll end of in the lake of fire.
The Nicene creed didn't have the filioque in it. The original symbol of the fait didn't include it bc it wasn't a doctrine then. It was a later addition
@@jaytoven7 well according to the west but it's not clear in the bible. The Orthodox church accepts that the spirit whoch PROCEEDS from The Father as the bible says can be send from the Son. Nowhere in the bible you will find a single verse which says ot PROCEEDS from The Son. But I don't think so that it is thag big of a difference
@@simoschristoforou Revelation 22:1 "the life-giving water" is the Holy Spirit (we know this from John 4:10-14) which flows from "the throne of God and of the lamb" (The Father and the Son). Also many times before the council of Nicea, the Early Church Fathers made it clear that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Son also. Confession of Faith [A.D. 265], The Trinity 2:29 [A.D. 357], and Commentaries on John 2:6 [A.D. 229]. The Orthodox did not accept the CLEARIFICATION because they do not want to submit to Rome, as there was already tension between the East and West during that time.
@@jaytoven7 The Earl church Fathers didn't accept the filioque if they did accept it they would have added it into te creeed, don't try to find verses that say that it proceeds from the Son bc you can find anything. Also John 4:10-14 says that Jesus can gove us the spirit but not that it proceeds from Hin so still. It proceeds from The Father through thr Son and can be sent from Him. The filioque was only added bc Arianism almost won so the West, you can search it up. Yhe Early church Fathers never stated that it proceeds from The Son. The Creed is clear. Neither the confession of faith, Neither any other statements suggested that it proceeds from the Son. Even if some of them did the majority disagreed and the filioque wasn't added. So no it was an addition
The Nicene Creed says, “God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one being with the Father.” “begotten, not made”. Literally, “begotten” and “made” are the same. Doesn’t “begotten” imply “made”? So literally this verse is contradictory. “begotten, not made”. So there must be a profound meaning to this verse, that is: At a certain point many lifetimes ago, the Christ was begotten of the Father. Through practice in many lifetimes, He has eradicated all sins and sinful nature, and fully restored divinity and spirituality. The full divinity and spirituality of the Christ were not made, so He was not made. The reason why it can be explained in this way is because there are many lifetimes. Without many lifetimes, there’s no way to explain “begotten, not made”. Many lifetimes after being begotten, eventually the Christ was not made. Without “many lifetimes”, “begotten” and “made” would be the same. So this explanation is at least understandable in theory. --Light of Wisdom Church《The Trinity ｜God from God, Light from Light｜Reincarnation | I Am the way, the truth and the life 08》
Recontextualizing a mormon to an orthodox?... lol if anything that this character shared with any belief with any christian that wasnt heretical was the filioque.
Technically Joshua is not explicitly stated to be a small o "orthodox" (no pun intended) Mormon. Accounting for the catastrophic loss after the nuclear war, it's possible he's "just" a de facto Protestant. We only ever see him quote and abide by the Bible not the Book of Mormon. The Mormon temples probably collapsed and reverted back to a generic evangelical faith
What kind of image is this? It seems this site is attempting to equate sacred Orthodox beliefs with vulgar displays of armed extremists. The guy in military swat gear, face covered and bomb vest. Who the Hell is behind such heresy? VERY DISRESPECTFUL.
The Nicene Creed says, “God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one being with the Father.” Let’s make it clear. The direct and literal meaning of “God from God” is: God proceeds from God. That is, God created Himself, because He proceeds from God. He proceeds from God, but is God too. Doesn’t it mean that God is from God? That is, God created Himself, which is definitely a wrong interpretation. There must be a profound meaning in this verse, rather than just what it says. What it really means is: At a certain point many lifetimes ago, the Christ was begotten of the Father - that is, “God from God”. Through practice in many lifetimes, He has eradicated all sins and sinful nature, fully restored divinity and spirituality, and become one with God. So He is God. --Light of Wisdom Church《The Trinity ｜God from God, Light from Light｜Reincarnation | I Am the way, the truth and the life 08》
That's AAAARIANISM Patrick!! Light ribbing aside. The idea that anybody can "restore divinity" requires a very different view of Divinity from mainstream Christianity and Monotheism, as part of the definition of an Infinite, Perfect, and Omnipotent God is that he cannot be limited by anything except himself, and that as he is the cause of all things that God himself cannot be "caused," that meaning he must always have existed. Specifically existed in the same state of total infinite perfection. Therefore, one cannot become God nor can one "fully restore Divinity" to go from "not-God" to "God" in this monotheistic sense. Either someone has always been God from the beginning, or he can never be God, you can't "practice and eventually become God." Hence Arianism, the ancient view that Jesus was not the monotheistic God but something lesser, be it a man, "demi-god," or what have you, and one condemned at the council of Constantinople. This is why Jesus is referred to as co-eternal with the Father, and associated in the beginning of the Gospel of John as being the Logos, the Word of God, and the most loaded word in the English language. In other terms, it includes God's perfect self-knowledge/self-image that must itself be a person and God, or else it is less than a totally perfect self-image, and thus God's Knowledge/Word is both God yet another person from the Father.
@@pendarricrolynd7444 The Cappadocian Trinitarian Model was the Dogmatised Model adopted at the 2nd Ecumenical Council. Popes are not above Ecumenical Councils.
Us catholics added it on in Spain to help put down Arianism and it just stuck so as a catholic I believe before any serious talks of unity we must go over the nicene creed and decide upon it
Is Christ, our Lord anywhere here?? ~~ Beware, you are not praying to the true God, the Christ. He is not depicted here and it is a farce. God have mercy on your souls ..This is WRONG!!
@@harmanvirk4421It makes sense to you, not because you actually have some proper arguments that would prove the logical validity of your claim (in this case the divinity of Jesus, as defined at Nicaea), but because you want to feel convinced that what you believe in is possible and true. The term "begetting" is obliged to be interpreted as a process that occurs in time. Therefore, if Jesus is a literal Son of God, He couldn't have existed prior to His being begotten from God the Father.
I believe in one God, Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all ages; Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten, not created, of one essence with the Father through Whom all things were made. Who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary and became man. He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered and was buried; And He rose on the third day, according to the Scriptures. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father; And He will come again with glory to judge the living and dead. His kingdom shall have no end. And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Creator of life, Who proceeds from the Father, Who together with the Father and the Son is worshipped and glorified, Who spoke through the prophets. In one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church. I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the age to come. Amen.
Joshua converted
From Protestant to Orthodox
🥰
Mormon to Orthodox
Source? He was Mormon right?
@@blessyou1182 Mormons ain't even protestants lol are they
There's several videos, hours long, of Joshua Graham reading the Bible. All of them are very enjoyable to listen to.
I hope there will be a Psalms one
@@chocolateneko9912 He can read it but it won't impact the same as Revelation and Genesis.
Those books are read with fire (That fits Joshua's voice) while the book Psalms is more calm and passionate.
@@fr.Angel21 I can see your point and I agree but I just really like the Psalms, also Joshua has that low deep voice which could sound good even though it's meant for fire. God bless you. ☦️
There surely are .
Fallout time traveler: *coughs*
Fallout timeline: *Caesar executes Joshua Graham for rejecting the Filioque*
Nice joke
Based Graham
I don't think anyone ever got in such trouble for rejecting the Filioque (it's much more likely someone would get in trouble for accepting it), so not sure what you're referencing with this joke.
@@servus_incognitus The joke is that in Fallout Caesar killed Joshua Graham for failing in battle, but in some alternate timeline he could have a different reason
If Cæsar was Based
Listening to his voice gives the Creed the glory it deserves
glory of dumb sheeps ., i love part where some prophets say that catholic church are holly thru holly spirit!? best stupid part ever., nobody dont say ever which one prophets say that because everyone with brain knows that Catholicism dont admit any prophets after Jesus except themself
@@Mr11ESSE111Im sorry, but this is almost unreadable.
@@OrthoKarter just like apostles &nicene creed which in reality don't have nothing with real original apostles
@@Mr11ESSE111 can you provide some evidence as to why?
the nicene creed is the true creed of the true Church.
@@OrthoKarter church not god&jesus!! Can you provide me evidence which prophets sayed that catholic church are holly
"The fire that had kept me alive was love. Their love. God's love. I will never be able to repay the debt I owe to them, but I must try".
"I have been baptized twice, once in water, once in flame. I will carry the fire of the holy spirit inside until I stand before my Lord for judgment".
Converted recently and have been practicing my prayers. I start with the creed and end with it. So far my prayer sessions are about 10-15mins now.
Just got to build me a prayer/icon corner now.
Edit: Im now a Catechumen.
Orthodox or catholic? Congrats- I'm getting charismated on holy Saturday
Congrats brother! Many years!!
The most based Creed ever
@@thelastgeneration1926 what does it matter what words he says? As long he is appreciating it.
@@thelastgeneration1926 only cornballs use the term cornball -cornball
@@The_Honcho it's irreverent to just say based this based that about holy church things. U can stay offended
@@thelastgeneration1926quit being silly it’s just the internet it’s not like he’s saying this in church
@@thelastgeneration1926 based take
Another Joshua Graham edit??? And two edits within an hour????!
Glory to God!
God be praised! 🙏🏻 Joshua came home.
he's a fictional character
@@artaxerxes360 And?
And an ai is used to mimic his voice
@@artaxerxes360 I know. But I still like to say he came home.
AND you technically need to exist in the first place, to come home
The videos of Joshua Graham are the best
Obviously better in orthodox edits
Yes, i am better in Orthodox Edits
This becomes quite comical when you’re aware of Joshua Graham’s Mormonism.
I prefer the translation "seen and unseen" instead of "visible and invisible" but this is great. I went to catholic church but never went through confirmation, we would say it like that.
The wording of the creed used in Catholic Church has changed in the last few years.
"Visible and invisible" is a direct translation, for sure. As a kid I used to go to Archangel Michael's church placed in my city's Kremlin (yes, Russia has more than one Kremlin, I live in city founded in 1221 and I think the church itself was from around that century, built slightly later than the city, Bolsheviks couldn't blow it up because of something, so it survived unlike cathedral I went to as an adult which is being rebuilt since 00s. They've almost completed reconstruction from what I've noticed) and I still partially remember the creed, it was part of every service. I'm planning on going to church again soon, guess I better get a memo.
@@bloozism oh, what's the difference between old and new?
@@unknowncommenter6698 no . he is just anti-catholic
Can make a video about the biggest Orthodox Church in the World? That is the Romanian Peoples Catthedral
THANK YOU 🙌🏻 i will use this to memorize the creed so I won’t stumble when I become a catechumen
God bless Joshua Graham.
Start your day with prayer. End your day with prayer.
Amen
Glory be to Jesus Christ!!! Glory forever! Most Holy Theotokos pray for us! Pray4captives unceasingly y’all 💚💚💚
Make him read psalms
Beautiful ☦️
Man this is pretty cool. Good job OMS
This is perfect
amin to that ✝️❤️❤️❤️🙏
CHRIST is LORD + + +
AMIN !!!
Something is missing, I can't place my finger on it though...
☦️
Amen
尼西亚信经"上帝的獨生子，在萬世以前為父所生，出于神而為神，出于光而為光，出于真神而為真神，受生而非被造"怎么理解？和您讨论一下智慧之光教会的这个视频 “道路 真理 生命08 三位一體”
我们不仅要自己信，如果你觉得讲得有道理，要传播给更多的人。传福音不仅是牧师的工作，是我们每一个信徒的责任。这也是升入天国时，主最看中的一个方面。
We cant expect God to do all the work
I have to "confess" memes are great but have their limits that a deep hoarsely voice like this doesn't have.
LORD HAVE MERCY!
CHRIST HAVE MERCY!
BLESSED MOTHER MARY THEOTOKOS HAVE MERCY UPON US!
Pls make Joel Olsteen say it
lol. No.
That would be funny lmao
This 'meme' has got to be the greatest 'trend' of 2023
Consubstantial with the father 😎
Rocks 😊
Absolutely nothing better than the bow
🙏
More _______ reads the Nicene Creed.
Based
yes so serious, it makes me just jump out of my Skin LOL
Heed the creed well, as I must.
Go to top right to the cog wheel in the video.
On repeat - ON
символ вере/symbol of faith
Can anyone explain who is Joshua Graham?
Have you never heard the stories of the Burned Man?
@@kirklandcofer9279 No, Brother. But I’ll look up his story.
@@zephaniah.appudurai It´s from a game called Fallout New Vegas
He's a character from Fallout: new vegas. He's an ex "Legionnaire" who commited horrible acts until he failed his Caesar; being set on fire and thrown into the grand canyon as punishment. There, native tribes of the area saved him and he promised to help them in return, eventually he became a Mormon and started studiying the bible again.
For a video game character, he's very well written.
Joshua Graham is a character from the video game "Fallout: New Vegas". In the game he is a Mormon, and if I remember correctly he quotes the bible a few times
Символ веры
joshua graham is a latter day saint
Happy Saint Chad of Lichfield Day (NC)!
I will remember to pray the Akathist to our father among the Saints Chad (Ceadda) the Wonderworker, Bishop and Confessor of Lichfield in 13 days when it is truly March 2nd. ☦🇬🇬
@@fornost64 I'm gonna be honest, I could not care less about the calendar debate. I am glad you are going to pray the Akathist to our father among the Saints Chad (Cheadda) the Wonderworker, Bishop, and Confessor of Lichfield on March 2nd ☦
@@collincosades Blessings upon you brother
@@fornost64 and to you 😌
HOLY BASED
They say he's a Mormon
I say He's simply Christian!
Then you are super ignorant, mormonists do not believe that Christ is part of the Godhead, not an christian , do not EVER say things like this on the internet where dumb people will follow anything that is being said
This is awesome
It's the same than my catholic pray
Why don't you make a video about the biggest orthodox church in the World? The Romanian Peoples Catthedral
romanian... bad reputation
@@seamuswbiggerarmalite3379 Why?
I thought Haggia Sophia is the largest orthodox church in the world
@@cash4gold697 Thats a new bigger church
@@raduromanesti6408 But is it bigger than the Temple of Saint Sava?
We need more competition bigger Churches to glorify God.
Moar
It's perfect.
Whats the background music?
I HAVE FOUND MY PEOPLE
Second Fav DLC of Fallout NV
☦️☦️☦️☦️☦️☦️☦️
Ironic that he probably doesn’t believe in the Nicene Creed unfortunately
Yes, mormons dont
He does now
He definitely would not. Mormons reject the creeds of that era.
@@SethTurnerPrinting cope
@@Branwolfe1 I’m not telling you what you should or should not believe, so your response makes no sense to me. I’m telling you what that character would canonically believe based on how he was written. If he had been written as a Catholic or Protestant, it would make perfect sense for him to. You might as well assert that Muslims worship Tom Cruise.
Satisfying hahah
Please give us the orginal back or a download link somewhere it was beautiful.
isn't this a bit ironic. he is mormon and they reject the nicene creed.
He is mormon! How he can say, that God one? ))))
He's from Utah, mormon association is speculation. It's also been incredible amounts of years. He may only know the New Testament.
@greg0050 not speculation. He's explicitly from a Tribe (His words) of Mormons Calling themselves New Canaanites.
Wait, I already made one of these, I uploaded it 8 days ago
I believe in one God, Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all ages; Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten, not created, of one essence with the Father through Whom all things were made. Who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary and became man. He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered and was buried; And He rose on the third day, according to the Scriptures. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father; And He will come again with glory to judge the living and dead. His kingdom shall have no end.
And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Creator of life, Who proceeds from the Father, Who together with the Father and the Son is worshipped and glorified, Who spoke through the prophets.
In one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church.
I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the age to come.
Amen.
I am a catholic but i respect orthodox
Leave the Catholic church before you're destroyed by being partakers with them. They practice blatant idolatry and paganism. Making statues, bowing down to them, kissing them. God hates this stuff, and it's what he warned you not to do 1 million times in the Bible.
Revelation 9:20
20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
And the pagan celebrations they adopted like Christmas and Easter are abominations in the eyes of God. He explicitly says not to learn the way of the heathen but the Catholic church took pleasure in it. And teaching the Sun god day Sabbath they inherited from Rome is exactly the problem the Messiah had with the Pharisees:
Mark 7:6-7
6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
If Catholicism was the true church of God then they would have the sign of the everlasting covenant between God and his people, the Sabbath (Exodus 31:16-17), which is on Saturday, but they don't, and Jude 1:3-4 and 3 John 1:9-10 warned you about the wolves who infiltrated the church and kicked out the real apostles.
So, quit relying on men when God gave you his word. The church is not the author of the Bible, God used them to preserve it, and they even threw out books like Enoch and Jubilees that are quoted several times in the New Testament. Yeshua, the Messiah, taught obedience to his Father's commandments, you don't get to eat pork, break the Sabbath, and do pagan idolatry now. You have to repent from these sins or you'll end of in the lake of fire.
What did you use to make this? It's so good!
I can easily imagine Joshua Graham working with the remaining Orthodox in Fallout.
I converted, CHRIST IS RISEN
@@Datboylilmicro Indeed he is risen!
bro he was mormon he isnt working with the orthodox anytime soon, not that there would be any
@@DatboylilmicroAlithos Anesti!
Please be real, Mr. Graham.
Josh is Mormon, right?
We can't expect God to say all the Creed
....And the Son....
The Nicene creed didn't have the filioque in it. The original symbol of the fait didn't include it bc it wasn't a doctrine then. It was a later addition
@@simoschristoforou True, but the filioque is correct.
@@jaytoven7 well according to the west but it's not clear in the bible. The Orthodox church accepts that the spirit whoch PROCEEDS from The Father as the bible says can be send from the Son. Nowhere in the bible you will find a single verse which says ot PROCEEDS from The Son. But I don't think so that it is thag big of a difference
@@simoschristoforou Revelation 22:1 "the life-giving water" is the Holy Spirit (we know this from John 4:10-14) which flows from "the throne of God and of the lamb" (The Father and the Son). Also many times before the council of Nicea, the Early Church Fathers made it clear that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Son also. Confession of Faith [A.D. 265], The Trinity 2:29 [A.D. 357], and Commentaries on John 2:6 [A.D. 229].
The Orthodox did not accept the CLEARIFICATION because they do not want to submit to Rome, as there was already tension between the East and West during that time.
@@jaytoven7 The Earl church Fathers didn't accept the filioque if they did accept it they would have added it into te creeed, don't try to find verses that say that it proceeds from the Son bc you can find anything. Also John 4:10-14 says that Jesus can gove us the spirit but not that it proceeds from Hin so still. It proceeds from The Father through thr Son and can be sent from Him. The filioque was only added bc Arianism almost won so the West, you can search it up. Yhe Early church Fathers never stated that it proceeds from The Son. The Creed is clear. Neither the confession of faith, Neither any other statements suggested that it proceeds from the Son. Even if some of them did the majority disagreed and the filioque wasn't added. So no it was an addition
Filoque please
"Who procedes from the father"
MOST BASED CREED EVER!
Also john 17 3 debunks the filioque.
Душа маленькая а я большой
your using that AI voice converter?
Is this a re-upload?
🚬
Unfortunately I destroyed this character 2 weeks ago 😐.....Hey come on guys, I didn't know he converted 😐😐
You destroyed the only good thing about that DLC lol
@@kookykoruc1827 WRONG........ True to Caesar.
@@alt-monarchist Heresy
@@OratorVeritatis No. True to Caesar
@@alt-monarchist Disappointing...
Hey! Thanks for the edit, can I ask how were you able to get it ?
I’m not religious, but I can agree that I would automatically convert if Joshua came to my door
Do it.
The Nicene Creed says,
“God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one being with the Father.”
“begotten, not made”.
Literally, “begotten” and “made” are the same.
Doesn’t “begotten” imply “made”?
So literally this verse is contradictory. “begotten, not made”.
So there must be a profound meaning to this verse, that is:
At a certain point many lifetimes ago, the Christ was begotten of the Father.
Through practice in many lifetimes, He has eradicated all sins and sinful nature, and fully restored divinity and spirituality.
The full divinity and spirituality of the Christ were not made, so He was not made.
The reason why it can be explained in this way is because there are many lifetimes.
Without many lifetimes, there’s no way to explain “begotten, not made”.
Many lifetimes after being begotten, eventually the Christ was not made.
Without “many lifetimes”, “begotten” and “made” would be the same.
So this explanation is at least understandable in theory.
--Light of Wisdom Church《The Trinity ｜God from God, Light from Light｜Reincarnation | I Am the way, the truth and the life 08》
Recontextualizing a mormon to an orthodox?... lol if anything that this character shared with any belief with any christian that wasnt heretical was the filioque.
Technically Joshua is not explicitly stated to be a small o "orthodox" (no pun intended) Mormon. Accounting for the catastrophic loss after the nuclear war, it's possible he's "just" a de facto Protestant. We only ever see him quote and abide by the Bible not the Book of Mormon. The Mormon temples probably collapsed and reverted back to a generic evangelical faith
Isn't Joshua Graham a Mormon heretic?
Not anymore!
He used to be, yes.
He’s a Mormon, but not a heretic.
@@SethTurnerPrinting😂 sure buddy
No filioque LETS GOOOOOOO
What kind of image is this? It seems this site is attempting to equate sacred Orthodox beliefs with vulgar displays of armed extremists. The guy in military swat gear, face covered and bomb vest. Who the Hell is behind such heresy? VERY DISRESPECTFUL.
That is the character, Joshua Graham.
Beautiful slap in the face of the Roman-Catholics. The best, Orthodox version on YT.
Mahshallah, Joshua Graham converted from Mormonism. 🙏
bro hes a mormon and we reject the nicene creed
Joshua is a Mormon , he literally does not believe in a single word of this .
Also , not saying "From the Father and the Son" .Cringe .
Eh, the mormans in fallout seem to be a bit different. Alot may have happened in those 250 years
Nerd
The Nicene Creed says,
“God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one being with the Father.”
Let’s make it clear.
The direct and literal meaning of “God from God” is: God proceeds from God.
That is, God created Himself, because He proceeds from God.
He proceeds from God, but is God too.
Doesn’t it mean that God is from God?
That is, God created Himself, which is definitely a wrong interpretation.
There must be a profound meaning in this verse, rather than just what it says.
What it really means is:
At a certain point many lifetimes ago, the Christ was begotten of the Father - that is, “God from God”.
Through practice in many lifetimes, He has eradicated all sins and sinful nature, fully restored divinity and spirituality, and become one with God. So He is God.
--Light of Wisdom Church《The Trinity ｜God from God, Light from Light｜Reincarnation | I Am the way, the truth and the life 08》
That's AAAARIANISM Patrick!!
Light ribbing aside. The idea that anybody can "restore divinity" requires a very different view of Divinity from mainstream Christianity and Monotheism, as part of the definition of an Infinite, Perfect, and Omnipotent God is that he cannot be limited by anything except himself, and that as he is the cause of all things that God himself cannot be "caused," that meaning he must always have existed. Specifically existed in the same state of total infinite perfection. Therefore, one cannot become God nor can one "fully restore Divinity" to go from "not-God" to "God" in this monotheistic sense. Either someone has always been God from the beginning, or he can never be God, you can't "practice and eventually become God." Hence Arianism, the ancient view that Jesus was not the monotheistic God but something lesser, be it a man, "demi-god," or what have you, and one condemned at the council of Constantinople.
This is why Jesus is referred to as co-eternal with the Father, and associated in the beginning of the Gospel of John as being the Logos, the Word of God, and the most loaded word in the English language. In other terms, it includes God's perfect self-knowledge/self-image that must itself be a person and God, or else it is less than a totally perfect self-image, and thus God's Knowledge/Word is both God yet another person from the Father.
Proceeds from the Father AND the Son.
Trying to sow division during Great Lent? Really?
@@emperorjustiniani8158 There already exists division. Schism.
@@pendarricrolynd7444
The Cappadocian Trinitarian Model was the Dogmatised Model adopted at the 2nd Ecumenical Council.
Popes are not above Ecumenical Councils.
Us catholics added it on in Spain to help put down Arianism and it just stuck so as a catholic I believe before any serious talks of unity we must go over the nicene creed and decide upon it
not true
so.. josuha rejected mormonism and accepted authotity of vatican? based
*who proceeds from the Father AND THE SON
Why leave this part? This is an important part of the creed.
Because it is the original Creed, you heretics added the filique
Because Orthodox Catholics REALLY hated when The Pope added it.
Is Christ, our Lord anywhere here??
~~ Beware, you are not praying to the true God, the Christ. He is not depicted here and it is a farce.
God have mercy on your souls ..This is WRONG!!
What is this? It is not the real deal. It looks horrible!
Jesus' divinity, as defined by Nicene Fathers, makes no sense. It is time the Church settles for a more rational exegesis of His divinity.
No, it makes perfect sense.
@@harmanvirk4421It makes sense to you, not because you actually have some proper arguments that would prove the logical validity of your claim (in this case the divinity of Jesus, as defined at Nicaea), but because you want to feel convinced that what you believe in is possible and true. The term "begetting" is obliged to be interpreted as a process that occurs in time. Therefore, if Jesus is a literal Son of God, He couldn't have existed prior to His being begotten from God the Father.
Well then the burden of proof is on you to prove is just a temporal procession
For a moment I thought this was the guy in Sanitarium… Well, New Vegas is good too. 🥲
Amen
Based
I believe in one God, Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all ages; Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten, not created, of one essence with the Father through Whom all things were made. Who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary and became man. He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered and was buried; And He rose on the third day, according to the Scriptures. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father; And He will come again with glory to judge the living and dead. His kingdom shall have no end.
And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Creator of life, Who proceeds from the Father, Who together with the Father and the Son is worshipped and glorified, Who spoke through the prophets.
In one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church.
I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the age to come.
Amen.
Amen