I had no idea there was a THPS 4 port on the PS1. Doesn't look like a remotely good way to experience THPS 4, but the fact that it exists is kinda cool to me
Split generation ports were a norm for a while when generations had drastic differences. Now for some reason we get a Skyrim remaster and The last of Us remastered every console generation
I must say I’m very impressed! First time I’ve seen a THPS game review in which the reviewer can actually bust a sick combo! Most people just show B-roll of them bailing and doing 50-50 grinds lol. I also find your commentary to add much more original insight than the average Tony Hawk game review. Subbed for sure! Keep it coming!
The THPS4 PS1 port is so bad. I was the kid you described who got this game, and I never thought I could have so little fun playing a Tony Hawk game. I’d just played the brand new Tony Hawk’s Underground round my cousin’s house and it absolutely blew my mind, so I wanted more of that so I asked my Mum to buy this because all I had was a PS1. Compared to THUG (and PS2 THPS4), it was so lifeless and drab and empty, and many of the goals were incredibly frustrating. You were spot on to say it’s an ‘actual slog’ to play. I was too dumb as a kid to realise that I could have just got a better Tony Hawk game for the PS1, like THPS 2.
This was my favorite one. I had more fun overall playing #1 with my brother and my best friend and #2 with my friends and my cousin, but I mostly played #4 by myself and still have great memories playing the game
As a huge fan of the series I think every two games is a pairing. 1 and 2 obviously go together evidenced by the remaster, 3+4 added reverts and missions thus needing different world design, THUG 1+2 obviously go together, and everything after is where i fell off
My new favorite channel! Got food poisoning the other day. Been in bed dying and all these videos took me down nostalgia lane. Making me feel better. Can’t wait for more! Should definitely keep up with PS2 titles. By far the greatest console ever made!
Very good video! THPS 4 is a good Tony Hawk game, but imo Underground did a more fully realized version of its mission based concept. Would be interesting to hear you talk about Evolution Skateboarding, an interesting try for a skating game by Konami with a Metal Gear level and a control scheme that almost feels like THPS
I plan on doing that one with the rest of the Konami ps2 action sports series. There's one other skateboarding game, and three snowboarding games that all go together
@@RedBerylFTW the game has some interesting ideas, but the controls can take some time to get used to imo. It feels like a realistic take on Tony Hawk controls with some differences
I just got your Mat Hoffman Pro BMX video recommended a few hours ago and man I love to see these action sports games getting talked about, made sure to sub, can't wait to see more
For many years I lived without knowing the existence of sixth gen thps 3, 4 and at that I had only ps1. I've played a hell out of those versions, completing them multipule times. For me, thps4 was my favourite, but at the same time most disappointing, for how broken and lacking it was. Stats automatically gained on all skaters, awful bonus stage and character, reverts after verts can be ignored, if you just ollie fast enough. But still, a lot of good memories and fun
"falls below expectations" is pretty messed up reason to cancel the series when the expectations are set so high. It's kind of like when Eminem said "I guess it's the standard I'm held to when Platinum sales are looked at as a failure"
I played a shit ton of pro skater 3 and 4 growing up. Pro Skater 4 plays like a hybrid of the Underground games and 3. I'm surprised you brought up hyperspins cuz usually people who make videos on these games don't know any tech like that lol
I've such a soft spot for the 5th gen versions of th3 and th4. The speed mechanics are so crisp (hit a few 180 360 flips or double airwalks and just zoom). They're objectively less good than the 6th gen versions, but the levels were rebuilt creatively (especially th3) and make for such a unique experience. I also have a much more positive opinion after speedrunning and TASing and really getting to explore the mechanics One thing to mention is that in 5th gen 4 you can only double/triple tap on vert and nowhere else, but this was a great video
Really been enjoy your videos man, huge tony hawk/extreme sports game fan. I’m also curious, I notice on a lot of your ps1 reviews it looks like you get trophies/achievements in your gameplay. How are you doin that?
There's a site called RetroAchievements that's been adding cheevos to games since 2013. PCSX2, Duckstation and Retroarch all have support. They don't have every game, but there are a ton and new sets get developed constantly.
Towards the end you mentioned THPS5. I think the problem with THPS5 isn't that it's broken (it was at launch but did have patches to mitigate some of the issues) but that it is a regression from the previous games specifically in the THPS series. Some of the design choices are downright baffling such as slamming to the ground after double tapping the grind button. That feature alone fundamentally changes how the game is played. The issue for diehard fans isn't that it's buggy, but it was a shell of it's former self.
I mean, shell of its former self is a huge stretch. I played the game, the majority of things are there. I also don't remember purposely using the grind slam for anything tbh. The game itself played fundamentally the same with a different special trick system.
@@RedBerylFTW I absolutely see your thought process and agree that a majority of things are there. I don't think that saying the game is shell of it's former self is a stretch because it really is just so different, phoned in and rushed. The special meter difference aside, level design in the previous games had purposeful flow, create-a-skater was fully customizable and not just "choose between different heads and body choices" and 2 months before the game released, they added a a cel shade to the entire game after complaints that the game looked old. Those are just a few in a wide array of changes. If you have some time, I highly recommend this video by a long time fan Flippy. He does a great job explaining why the game is so fundamentally different from what Neversoft set up: ruclips.net/video/KY1CDKt5018/видео.html
@@brytonrobinson That's the same flippy who lied and said there were only 10 goals to play per level constant. I really don't like that video. If you go watch my Pro Skater 5 video, you'll hear me say that I feel like I've been lied to. That video is one of the biggest reasons why I feel that way.
The funny part is that for me the PS1 version was the original at that time. I didn't have the PS2 back then so THPS 4 for me was simply great even on PS1. 😂
Don't know if you knew, as i don't think you mentioned it here or in the other THPS games video, but THPS3 also got a PS1 (and N64) port in the THPS2 engine. It's similar to this version of THPS4 in the changes needed to fit the hardware while retaining as much as possible of the trick system updates. To make you even more frustrated by this game's trick system updates like double flips and grind variation not working right, reverts were broken in PS1 THPS3 as well. They had already gotten it wrong and had the chance to fix it here. My guess as to why the PS1 backports turned out as jank as they did is that they (Shaba and Edge of Reality for THPS3, Vicarious for THPS4) probably got told to make the ports by the time the Neversoft versions hit the beta stage so they knew what features and level elements needed to make the cut.
I've never had an issue hitting a revert in 3/4 on PS1.. all reviews keep saying this but it's just not true in my case, or my friend who also loves 3 on PS1.
PS2 version of Alcatraz was remade in American Sk8land for DS. Also, 1-3 don't have career free skate, so those could be fit into classic mode. THPS 4 would have needed a complete remake by itself for it to make sense, and the series was pretty much dead before that could happen.
@@ZeissDynamite thug 2 looked horrible. That was a huge disappointment for me. I’m one who enjoys good gameplay and graphics.. we can even throw tony hawk 2x as a better looking game
THPS4 was cool, I didn’t care for some of the challenges the game threw at you, and the levels seemed kind of bland in my opinion To this day I still play THPS3, that game is easily my favorite in the series
I had no idea there was a THPS 4 port on the PS1. Doesn't look like a remotely good way to experience THPS 4, but the fact that it exists is kinda cool to me
Split generation ports were a norm for a while when generations had drastic differences. Now for some reason we get a Skyrim remaster and The last of Us remastered every console generation
10/10 soundtrack as always
I must say I’m very impressed! First time I’ve seen a THPS game review in which the reviewer can actually bust a sick combo! Most people just show B-roll of them bailing and doing 50-50 grinds lol.
I also find your commentary to add much more original insight than the average Tony Hawk game review.
Subbed for sure! Keep it coming!
The THPS4 PS1 port is so bad. I was the kid you described who got this game, and I never thought I could have so little fun playing a Tony Hawk game. I’d just played the brand new Tony Hawk’s Underground round my cousin’s house and it absolutely blew my mind, so I wanted more of that so I asked my Mum to buy this because all I had was a PS1. Compared to THUG (and PS2 THPS4), it was so lifeless and drab and empty, and many of the goals were incredibly frustrating. You were spot on to say it’s an ‘actual slog’ to play. I was too dumb as a kid to realise that I could have just got a better Tony Hawk game for the PS1, like THPS 2.
best pro skater 4 video
This was my favorite one. I had more fun overall playing #1 with my brother and my best friend and #2 with my friends and my cousin, but I mostly played #4 by myself and still have great memories playing the game
As a huge fan of the series I think every two games is a pairing. 1 and 2 obviously go together evidenced by the remaster, 3+4 added reverts and missions thus needing different world design, THUG 1+2 obviously go together, and everything after is where i fell off
My new favorite channel! Got food poisoning the other day. Been in bed dying and all these videos took me down nostalgia lane. Making me feel better. Can’t wait for more! Should definitely keep up with PS2 titles. By far the greatest console ever made!
Thank you 🍻Hope you make a quick recovery
Don't forget to add that the original Xbox played all the all the THSP games up to THUG2 with 60fps and upgraded graphics.
Very good video! THPS 4 is a good Tony Hawk game, but imo Underground did a more fully realized version of its mission based concept.
Would be interesting to hear you talk about Evolution Skateboarding, an interesting try for a skating game by Konami with a Metal Gear level and a control scheme that almost feels like THPS
I plan on doing that one with the rest of the Konami ps2 action sports series. There's one other skateboarding game, and three snowboarding games that all go together
@@RedBerylFTW the game has some interesting ideas, but the controls can take some time to get used to imo. It feels like a realistic take on Tony Hawk controls with some differences
I just got your Mat Hoffman Pro BMX video recommended a few hours ago and man I love to see these action sports games getting talked about, made sure to sub, can't wait to see more
This review highly resonated with me! Keep up the great work. The soundtrack is perfect.
Thank you 🍻
Agreed, the only game where I don’t turn off any song!
I love that you review the games that really brought skateboarding to the mainstream. Thank you and also, bus, cow, bang de bow. 🥰
For many years I lived without knowing the existence of sixth gen thps 3, 4 and at that I had only ps1. I've played a hell out of those versions, completing them multipule times. For me, thps4 was my favourite, but at the same time most disappointing, for how broken and lacking it was. Stats automatically gained on all skaters, awful bonus stage and character, reverts after verts can be ignored, if you just ollie fast enough. But still, a lot of good memories and fun
Although i prefer THPS3 there's no doubt 4 kicks ass
"falls below expectations" is pretty messed up reason to cancel the series when the expectations are set so high. It's kind of like when Eminem said "I guess it's the standard I'm held to when Platinum sales are looked at as a failure"
This channel will take off bro. I know this to be true.
Was so excited to see alkaline trio pop up lol
I played a shit ton of pro skater 3 and 4 growing up. Pro Skater 4 plays like a hybrid of the Underground games and 3. I'm surprised you brought up hyperspins cuz usually people who make videos on these games don't know any tech like that lol
Convinced that none of them actually play these games tbh
I've such a soft spot for the 5th gen versions of th3 and th4. The speed mechanics are so crisp (hit a few 180 360 flips or double airwalks and just zoom). They're objectively less good than the 6th gen versions, but the levels were rebuilt creatively (especially th3) and make for such a unique experience. I also have a much more positive opinion after speedrunning and TASing and really getting to explore the mechanics
One thing to mention is that in 5th gen 4 you can only double/triple tap on vert and nowhere else, but this was a great video
1:28 you just explained all the AAA titles that come out now
Really been enjoy your videos man, huge tony hawk/extreme sports game fan. I’m also curious, I notice on a lot of your ps1 reviews it looks like you get trophies/achievements in your gameplay. How are you doin that?
There's a site called RetroAchievements that's been adding cheevos to games since 2013. PCSX2, Duckstation and Retroarch all have support. They don't have every game, but there are a ton and new sets get developed constantly.
aww good times on ps2 or xbox or GameCube or ps1 even on PC this is the best THPS4. ever.
Would you ever do a review on the obscure Fighting game series capcom made called the darkstalkers/vampire games
Sure. I've never played them, so that might be fun
I actually had both of these the levels were different I loved it, same with 3 I had ps1 and 2 versions of that too same thing different levels
If you’re taking suggestions for the series you should play the ssx games, Dave Mirra, and go go hypergrind
I've never heard of that last one, I'll give it a look
Your lines are smoooth.
Towards the end you mentioned THPS5. I think the problem with THPS5 isn't that it's broken (it was at launch but did have patches to mitigate some of the issues) but that it is a regression from the previous games specifically in the THPS series. Some of the design choices are downright baffling such as slamming to the ground after double tapping the grind button. That feature alone fundamentally changes how the game is played. The issue for diehard fans isn't that it's buggy, but it was a shell of it's former self.
I mean, shell of its former self is a huge stretch. I played the game, the majority of things are there. I also don't remember purposely using the grind slam for anything tbh. The game itself played fundamentally the same with a different special trick system.
@@RedBerylFTW I absolutely see your thought process and agree that a majority of things are there. I don't think that saying the game is shell of it's former self is a stretch because it really is just so different, phoned in and rushed.
The special meter difference aside, level design in the previous games had purposeful flow, create-a-skater was fully customizable and not just "choose between different heads and body choices" and 2 months before the game released, they added a a cel shade to the entire game after complaints that the game looked old. Those are just a few in a wide array of changes.
If you have some time, I highly recommend this video by a long time fan Flippy. He does a great job explaining why the game is so fundamentally different from what Neversoft set up: ruclips.net/video/KY1CDKt5018/видео.html
@@brytonrobinson That's the same flippy who lied and said there were only 10 goals to play per level constant. I really don't like that video. If you go watch my Pro Skater 5 video, you'll hear me say that I feel like I've been lied to. That video is one of the biggest reasons why I feel that way.
@@RedBerylFTW I wasn't aware he lied. I'll give your video a watch and see!
The funny part is that for me the PS1 version was the original at that time. I didn't have the PS2 back then so THPS 4 for me was simply great even on PS1. 😂
ATHORITY ZERO BABY!! loved the vid.
I have rolling for ps2 still in the wrapper. lmao idk what to do with it because it's a UK landlocked version...
Don't know if you knew, as i don't think you mentioned it here or in the other THPS games video, but THPS3 also got a PS1 (and N64) port in the THPS2 engine. It's similar to this version of THPS4 in the changes needed to fit the hardware while retaining as much as possible of the trick system updates. To make you even more frustrated by this game's trick system updates like double flips and grind variation not working right, reverts were broken in PS1 THPS3 as well. They had already gotten it wrong and had the chance to fix it here. My guess as to why the PS1 backports turned out as jank as they did is that they (Shaba and Edge of Reality for THPS3, Vicarious for THPS4) probably got told to make the ports by the time the Neversoft versions hit the beta stage so they knew what features and level elements needed to make the cut.
I haven't played the 64/ps1 ports of 3 but this makes me want to go look at them
I'm guessing the other game you're going to look at is "Rolling"? I've heard of that one as an American but never played it.
Yah my brother ordered the game, not knowing he wouldn't be able to play it due to region issues. I kinda laugh when I think of it now.
I've never had an issue hitting a revert in 3/4 on PS1.. all reviews keep saying this but it's just not true in my case, or my friend who also loves 3 on PS1.
You could spend all the money and in the world and still shit out a stinker. Lmao! you’re so right!
can you make the music a little louder pls?
Yeah I'll keep that in mind
@@RedBerylFTW haha sorry for being a dick, good video nonetheless
If the levels in thps4 are so good then how come they never been recreated
PS2 version of Alcatraz was remade in American Sk8land for DS. Also, 1-3 don't have career free skate, so those could be fit into classic mode. THPS 4 would have needed a complete remake by itself for it to make sense, and the series was pretty much dead before that could happen.
I always didn't liked the new career system as a kid back than...
Btw it's amazing how good this game still looks today
Fr the visuals are way ahead of their time
@@RedBerylFTW THPS3 is even a bit better looking
Is it me or does 3 & 4 look better than thug, thug 2 & AW ? lol
@MR.__G specially THUG2 looks bad with that comic characters look...
@@ZeissDynamite thug 2 looked horrible. That was a huge disappointment for me. I’m one who enjoys good gameplay and graphics.. we can even throw tony hawk 2x as a better looking game
Good video man, it's a shame the PS1 version of THPS4 is a pile of asshole hair, because the series was pretty great up to that point.
Bro don’t tell people you enjoy THPS5.
I did a whole video about that lmao
@@RedBerylFTW I’ll watch it because I enjoy the channel, but afterwards you’re in timeout. You need to think about what you’ve done.
watched you explode
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What do you think is the best skateboarding game of all time I think thug 2 or skate 2
I'll talk about that in a video in the near future 👀
THPS4 was cool, I didn’t care for some of the challenges the game threw at you, and the levels seemed kind of bland in my opinion
To this day I still play THPS3, that game is easily my favorite in the series
You explanation of video game sales and such is just capitalism altogether.
Can you do bmx xxx
It's already on my list 🍻