Trying to finish an edit for tomorrow. A few cool ones on the way. This 2nd channel will remain active due to demand! I'm going to launch a funding project for it, so I can justify the time. Upcoming videos will explain. To those of you who would fund this strange type of entertainment, I wouldn't be able to thank you graciously enough. There's a certain guilt that goes along with not generating revenue for something like this, because it starts to feel like an unproductive waste of time. Monetary support will help legitimize the venture. Don't expect me to conform to any sort of standard, or to start bending to popular opinion, though. I will never dance for money.
Myself, I'm more than willing to dance for money. But the amount of money required for any particular dance is not on a linear scale, and stripping is right out.
Fair enough. We really need to define "dance" and "money." There's surely some line where my claim will break down. I mean, I've done some pretty stupid things for pretty low gains in my life. Especially where alcohol has been involved.
Also "Don't expect me to conform to any sort of standard"... you can say that, but can you actually make yourself produce crap? Once you have achieved some level of competence at something it can be harder to do it the wrong way than just do it right. I could imagine you, in a cantankerous mood, slapping paint on a board and producing a 20 minute single angle video of the paint drying. I can't imagine you failing to light the board and place the camera so that you would be able to see the changing appearance as the paint dried.
The only knot I use more than the figure eight with a bite, is a truckers hitch. I find it sad that knotting is becoming such a lost art. Awesome video, Pocket.
New friends here from Trail Trash Outdoors! Thanks for sharing! You never know when you will need to up your knot game! Needed a refresher before we repel into a sinkhole to clean it out of all the trash that has been dumped in it!!
I can tie that knot, but pretty sure my explanation would be much worst than that. Very well done. I keep kicking around the idea of a second channel for stuff like that, but, well you know, so much else to do!
I learned the second way at my camp and I forgot how to start it because I was taught the first way. Thank you so much! Could not find any other video that showed the second way!
I try to watch your new videos 2-3 times hoping the extra views would help increase your revenue, but I am also happy to financially support you a bit as well as a way of showing my thanks for what you do
Plus you can use the figure of eight in the bitter/end to join two ropes together. I'll admit however I'm becoming much more fond of the alpine butterfly to secure two ropes together. There is also a trick that I have trouble remembering that takes a slip knot and lets it collapse into a bowline. Allowing securing around a tree using a very short end. But the one that made all the difference for me was the rolling hitch as it can be tied under tension!
I don't know very many knots at all but my favorite is the noose I use it for everything I can. lol Maybe you could do a real world knot video. for example show how to make it, then where it could be used in everyday life. just a thought :)
KISS>> Some Time the Military Instructors go out of their to make a Simple Knot Seem So Complicated.. Thank For Giving out the Elementary Version... peace..
I just got into rock climbing. I did a trip to Colorado that I don't ever seem to shut up about so when I came back I have been teaching folk how to belay and tie in and it is funny how many people can't seem to visualize the follow through figure 8
Once you start to trust your equipment, you learn quickly to pay careful attention to your knots. It's not the rope, harness, descender, or carabiner that will let you go- it's the faulty knot.
Just curious about some other advantages with the figure eight knot over a bowline for tying up to something like a post or tree. Are there certain situations where either a bowline or figure eight knot is not as strong as the other? Thanks!
I'm not certain where you could find credible data to answer this with much authority, but I believe that both of those knots preserve approximately the same rope strength. Something like ~75%, if memory serves. I used to read the literature, while I still did that sort of thing. Both are among the best possible knots known. But why would _I_ prefer to use a figure eight when my life hangs from it? Because you have to work to untie it, unlike the bowline. Less chance of 'undo' while I'm swinging around like a monkey. The 8 is also harder to screw up. I'm sure, just as is the case with every pursuit, that there are specialists who would beg to differ. As mostly a former tree and structure climber, I was only a weekend warrior with respect to formal climbing attire; I mostly just repelled. As such, I've always preferred simplicity. But if you're ever tugging a tree out of a ditch with a quad, use the bowline. Untying the 8 after a load is a nightmare.
I'm involved with search and rescue, including high angle rope rescue. The figure 8 and bowline are both strong and have very similar variations in terms of use. (I have a video about seven figure 8 variations if interested). The figure 8 is easier to recognize, and even when undressed it will hold without a problem. The bowline is for more advanced technicians. It's easier to mess up and requires a different safety depending whether it's an inside or outside bowline. The snap bowline is nice because if the ability to easily adjust it while tying, and it's quicker to tie.
Any knot suggestions for pull string on Ethernet cable (essentially string around a slippery rope)? I have to run it all the time as part of my job and always end up taping the pull string to the cable.
Let's Plays if you're trying you tie something to it for pulling I've had decent luck with a square knot, but ya got get it real tight. or better yet a surgical half knot
you left out the fancy one handed figure eight. its not that useful, but its a good campfire party trick. its hard to explain through text, but you grab a big length of rope, one end in each hand. then you quickly cross your hands (without letting go of the rope) and you will see that the rope will spin on itself making a loop, then unspin back to normal. think of twirling a plastic back handle on your finger. the trick is, when you do this and the loop has twisted twice, you quickly throw one end through the loop. it takes some practice, but you can get pretty consistent at it. it also makes you look like a tool lol
It doesn't help with it's strength but it is better if the load line of the knot ends up as one of the inner strands of the finished knot and not as the outer one choking the loop. It seems to make it easier to untie if loaded.
That's debatable. Especially because this knot can be disassembled by loosening either the bight or the dead-end. But in either case, 1) why wouldn't you use a bowline if you're applying a non-lifesaving load, and 2) why are you watching a how-to-tie video for this knot in the first place? Also, _it's_ is not a possessive; it's a contraction of _it_ and _is._
I was watching your video because I've watched all your videos. Most of them, several times and enjoy them very much. My home shop is riddled with little bits of your genius. My initial comment was not meant with any disrespect nor criticism. As far as my poor writing skills, I blame those on both autocorrect and my PhD (public highschool diploma) Thanks again for your content, I'm a huge fan. Cheers
No worries. I just get lots of do-it-this-way comments on simple videos like this, so I have a short fuse. Thanks for your interest. As for education, I didn't even finish high school. Instead, I became a roofer. A few years later, I was doing some trim carpentry for a very nice lady. We started talking about a few of the books on her shelf, and she asked why I wasn't in college. Told her I didn't have a diploma, and she laughed! Turned out she was a secretary at the local community college. After convincing me to give it a try, she signed me up without having to apply. I payed with cash, and walked right into my first class. I took it seriously from there. Eventually, I transferred to a university, and nobody figured it out!
@pocket83squared Thanks for the back story. I also have a story of a pushy elder altering my trajectory. I finished my AA degree in a local community college as an "undecided major" and with one elective class left to go, I took a first aid class just to get the last needed credits. Since I had a boy scouting background, I happened to do well in the class and the teacher pushed me to go into a first responder class. The rest is history. 29 years in the ems field later, 24 of which in the fire service and I feel grateful to that teacher that pushed me in a direction that didn't seem like a fruitful path at the time. I tried to leave a link but it somehow gets deleted to the video that made me want to offer my original comment. I want to get your feedback on it. The channel name is "Hard Is Easy" the title is "Why figure 8 knot is NOT hard to unie" Maybe you'll go down the same rabbit hole as I did. ...and I get your point about RUclips comments, people suck, especially behind a keyboard. Cheers
@1:26: "... and then you just...traaace baack throuugh...the wwaayy that you caaammme.” Dude WHY is that so funny to me? It's the way he says it. I imagine saying this to my next ex on her way out the door: just trace back through the way that you came.
No, it isn't. _You_ may pronounce the word that way, but the fact is arbitrary. Language moves; like it or not, no sound is official, and nothing spoken is permanent. Aside from the obvious appearance that the word became a portmanteau of two others, the knot itself is far older than any language that still describes it. All of it is made up.
Trying to finish an edit for tomorrow. A few cool ones on the way. This 2nd channel will remain active due to demand! I'm going to launch a funding project for it, so I can justify the time. Upcoming videos will explain. To those of you who would fund this strange type of entertainment, I wouldn't be able to thank you graciously enough. There's a certain guilt that goes along with not generating revenue for something like this, because it starts to feel like an unproductive waste of time. Monetary support will help legitimize the venture. Don't expect me to conform to any sort of standard, or to start bending to popular opinion, though. I will never dance for money.
Myself, I'm more than willing to dance for money. But the amount of money required for any particular dance is not on a linear scale, and stripping is right out.
Fair enough. We really need to define "dance" and "money." There's surely some line where my claim will break down. I mean, I've done some pretty stupid things for pretty low gains in my life. Especially where alcohol has been involved.
Also "Don't expect me to conform to any sort of standard"... you can say that, but can you actually make yourself produce crap? Once you have achieved some level of competence at something it can be harder to do it the wrong way than just do it right.
I could imagine you, in a cantankerous mood, slapping paint on a board and producing a 20 minute single angle video of the paint drying. I can't imagine you failing to light the board and place the camera so that you would be able to see the changing appearance as the paint dried.
You will dance, I will pay you, and you will bloody well enjoy it 😉
Would you do a quick little Irish jig for $1,000,000?
The only knot I use more than the figure eight with a bite, is a truckers hitch. I find it sad that knotting is becoming such a lost art. Awesome video, Pocket.
New friends here from Trail Trash Outdoors! Thanks for sharing! You never know when you will need to up your knot game! Needed a refresher before we repel into a sinkhole to clean it out of all the trash that has been dumped in it!!
That's decent of you! Or should I say _descent_ of you? (sorry).
Quite an adventure! Good luck with it. Be careful. Triple-check your connections.
These are some of my favorites. There was a time fifteen years ago when I had to be able to tie them underwater
0:00 Basic Figure 8
0:31 Figure 8 on a bight
1:15 Doubled Figure 8
You did great! =D
I can tie that knot, but pretty sure my explanation would be much worst than that. Very well done. I keep kicking around the idea of a second channel for stuff like that, but, well you know, so much else to do!
I learned the second way at my camp and I forgot how to start it because I was taught the first way. Thank you so much! Could not find any other video that showed the second way!
I try to watch your new videos 2-3 times hoping the extra views would help increase your revenue, but I am also happy to financially support you a bit as well as a way of showing my thanks for what you do
I learn lots of stuff I never knew I was interested in from your videos. thanks.
Thanks. You taught me my first knots
You totally should do a tutorial about the most conventional sailor knots.
Thank you very much ♥️
Plus you can use the figure of eight in the bitter/end to join two ropes together.
I'll admit however I'm becoming much more fond of the alpine butterfly to secure two ropes together.
There is also a trick that I have trouble remembering that takes a slip knot and lets it collapse into a bowline. Allowing securing around a tree using a very short end.
But the one that made all the difference for me was the rolling hitch as it can be tied under tension!
Thank you. This helped me secure dog leads
Thanks i need to make bungees and ropes for double end bags👍🏻🥊
I don't know very many knots at all but my favorite is the noose I use it for everything I can. lol Maybe you could do a real world knot video. for example show how to make it, then where it could be used in everyday life. just a thought :)
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KISS>> Some Time the Military Instructors go out of their to make a Simple Knot Seem So Complicated.. Thank For Giving out the Elementary Version... peace..
I just got into rock climbing. I did a trip to Colorado that I don't ever seem to shut up about so when I came back I have been teaching folk how to belay and tie in and it is funny how many people can't seem to visualize the follow through figure 8
Once you start to trust your equipment, you learn quickly to pay careful attention to your knots. It's not the rope, harness, descender, or carabiner that will let you go- it's the faulty knot.
Merci beaucoup
Kickass! Thanks!
Just curious about some other advantages with the figure eight knot over a bowline for tying up to something like a post or tree. Are there certain situations where either a bowline or figure eight knot is not as strong as the other? Thanks!
I'm not certain where you could find credible data to answer this with much authority, but I believe that both of those knots preserve approximately the same rope strength. Something like ~75%, if memory serves. I used to read the literature, while I still did that sort of thing. Both are among the best possible knots known.
But why would _I_ prefer to use a figure eight when my life hangs from it? Because you have to work to untie it, unlike the bowline. Less chance of 'undo' while I'm swinging around like a monkey. The 8 is also harder to screw up.
I'm sure, just as is the case with every pursuit, that there are specialists who would beg to differ. As mostly a former tree and structure climber, I was only a weekend warrior with respect to formal climbing attire; I mostly just repelled. As such, I've always preferred simplicity. But if you're ever tugging a tree out of a ditch with a quad, use the bowline. Untying the 8 after a load is a nightmare.
In speleo world we try to avoid bowline, but still it takes less time to make, compared to the fig eight
I'm involved with search and rescue, including high angle rope rescue. The figure 8 and bowline are both strong and have very similar variations in terms of use. (I have a video about seven figure 8 variations if interested). The figure 8 is easier to recognize, and even when undressed it will hold without a problem. The bowline is for more advanced technicians. It's easier to mess up and requires a different safety depending whether it's an inside or outside bowline. The snap bowline is nice because if the ability to easily adjust it while tying, and it's quicker to tie.
Any knot suggestions for pull string on Ethernet cable (essentially string around a slippery rope)? I have to run it all the time as part of my job and always end up taping the pull string to the cable.
Rubber band. Specifically, Ranger bands ;)
Let's Plays if you're trying you tie something to it for pulling I've had decent luck with a square knot, but ya got get it real tight. or better yet a surgical half knot
I actually use a double bowline knot when climbing, because it doesnt really get tight when you fall into it
you left out the fancy one handed figure eight. its not that useful, but its a good campfire party trick. its hard to explain through text, but you grab a big length of rope, one end in each hand. then you quickly cross your hands (without letting go of the rope) and you will see that the rope will spin on itself making a loop, then unspin back to normal. think of twirling a plastic back handle on your finger. the trick is, when you do this and the loop has twisted twice, you quickly throw one end through the loop. it takes some practice, but you can get pretty consistent at it. it also makes you look like a tool lol
It doesn't help with it's strength but it is better if the load line of the knot ends up as one of the inner strands of the finished knot and not as the outer one choking the loop. It seems to make it easier to untie if loaded.
That's debatable. Especially because this knot can be disassembled by loosening either the bight or the dead-end. But in either case, 1) why wouldn't you use a bowline if you're applying a non-lifesaving load, and 2) why are you watching a how-to-tie video for this knot in the first place?
Also, _it's_ is not a possessive; it's a contraction of _it_ and _is._
I was watching your video because I've watched all your videos. Most of them, several times and enjoy them very much. My home shop is riddled with little bits of your genius. My initial comment was not meant with any disrespect nor criticism. As far as my poor writing skills, I blame those on both autocorrect and my PhD (public highschool diploma) Thanks again for your content, I'm a huge fan. Cheers
No worries. I just get lots of do-it-this-way comments on simple videos like this, so I have a short fuse. Thanks for your interest.
As for education, I didn't even finish high school. Instead, I became a roofer.
A few years later, I was doing some trim carpentry for a very nice lady. We started talking about a few of the books on her shelf, and she asked why I wasn't in college. Told her I didn't have a diploma, and she laughed! Turned out she was a secretary at the local community college. After convincing me to give it a try, she signed me up without having to apply. I payed with cash, and walked right into my first class. I took it seriously from there.
Eventually, I transferred to a university, and nobody figured it out!
@pocket83squared Thanks for the back story. I also have a story of a pushy elder altering my trajectory. I finished my AA degree in a local community college as an "undecided major" and with one elective class left to go, I took a first aid class just to get the last needed credits. Since I had a boy scouting background, I happened to do well in the class and the teacher pushed me to go into a first responder class. The rest is history. 29 years in the ems field later, 24 of which in the fire service and I feel grateful to that teacher that pushed me in a direction that didn't seem like a fruitful path at the time. I tried to leave a link but it somehow gets deleted to the video that made me want to offer my original comment. I want to get your feedback on it. The channel name is "Hard Is Easy" the title is "Why figure 8 knot is NOT hard to unie" Maybe you'll go down the same rabbit hole as I did. ...and I get your point about RUclips comments, people suck, especially behind a keyboard. Cheers
I would say the best feature of the figure 8 is that it is fairly easy to untie even after stress has tightened it.
not true
c edmo - care to elaborate??
@@tacticalant3841 no
c edmo - then whats the point of commenting to begin with?
@@tacticalant3841 free country, nigga
you also didnt elaborate, so stfu
whats the difference between the 2nd and 3rd one?
Nothing. It's just that the 3rd one can be tied around something.
Lol, the ad I got on this video was a tutorial on how to tie a figure eight knot from REI.
The last two look like the same knot. One of them was just done together while you just manually did the second loop in the second one.
Yep. It's easier to do them together, but you can't slide that loop around a tree.
Unless it's a very short tree!
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@1:26: "... and then you just...traaace baack throuugh...the wwaayy that you caaammme.”
Dude WHY is that so funny to me? It's the way he says it.
I imagine saying this to my next ex on her way out the door: just trace back through the way that you came.
Helped fixed a bracelet my ex girlfriend gave me, Thanks
most important knot in sailing except maybe the bowline wet ropes are a bitch to untie
Huh?
It’s pronounced Bowlin.
No, it isn't. _You_ may pronounce the word that way, but the fact is arbitrary. Language moves; like it or not, no sound is official, and nothing spoken is permanent.
Aside from the obvious appearance that the word became a portmanteau of two others, the knot itself is far older than any language that still describes it. All of it is made up.
"and you can attach this part directly to a tree," you okay?
Get your fat fingers out of the way. We're you racing someone!
I don't understand your comment. Are you having trouble?