Look at his body of work over the last 5 years, as a coach and a GM, and you have a very long list of poor and downright abysmal decisions made by Bill. Give him a gracious exit, but it has to be an exit.
We were so spoiled with 6 Rings. You owe it to him. I don’t think the QB situation is his fault. The roster is a problem, but the culture and the coach keep us at the cusp of the playoffs.
Can the Patriots get a GM? No? Then what's the point it's like going in circles. He is an excellent head coach. Get some different talent evaluation. Hopkins has a 1000 yards in Tennessee getting Juju and not keeping Myers paying Parker c'mon.
They will beat the Jets and ruin everything. Sign Baker Mayfield. He might attract Mike Evans and maybe Tyler Boyd draft a top LT in 1st round. QB in 2nd round can sit behind Mayfield for a year. Instant offense. You can always cut or trade Mayfield when the time comes. What WR free agents can you sign with no QB ?
The reason this doesn't hit as hard as you want it to is because people have been saying this about him directly in comparison to Mac since last year. And now we all know unarguably that Mac is not an NFL QB so it's hard to sit here and digest another "trust me bro you just don't know football"
If bellichick wanted help, he would have gone and gotten it by now. He brought back Patricia and Judge last year because he's not willing to put in the work of hiring and training a new staff. The same goes for drafting and development. He said years ago that he only wants to coach the players he likes, that's why we end up with scrubs like Cole Strange being selected in the first round. The only thing bellichick wants is the Shula record. I believe he still needs 27 regular season wins to get it. Do the math. That's 4 years, at least, of going on with this mediocrity. Good luck to you if that's what you want, but I'm not here for it.
@@mikegrace2819 Actually, I see it's been catching on since I first used it. Don't worry the name and the fraud will both be forgotten in a few months. His disappearance from the league will be more like Cam Newton than Colin Kaepernick, just fade away.
He is a old man playing in a young mans league....what happens when one gets old/have all answers/resistant to change/ fail to adapt to new ways of thinking....Bingo Bill Belichick.
Bill will be back with a GM. He only will coach for another couple of years and nobody is going to give him complete control. In the game today 1 man cannot do both. He will be back.
Great idea. Let’s be the only team in history that let our 100% HOF QB walk and go win a SB somewhere else and THEN let our 100% HOF Coach walk out and go where? To the Chargers? And win a SB there, right? Who do we replace him with, oh genius armchair experts? What coach in the nfl or elsewhere do you think has a better pulse on the game than Bill? I’d love to know. Everyone that’s talking to him has said ‘this guy is 100% still all in on the game of football. He hasn’t lost his step one bit’ You wanna be the team that faces a motivated Bill twice a year? With who at center?!
WHat? He needs help? But... but... I thought he was the GOAT All those years, I never heard he needed help, it's like he was doing it himself with cogs? Even Brady was a cog and would be easily replaced LOLL
Zappy ain't it but it damn sure ain't Mac. It ain't the coach fault for four turnovers and a half. And all he keeps telling them to do is not turn the ball over. We lost the game against the bills because we turned the ball over to many times. It's not a coaching problem it's an execution problem
The literal biggest complaint about BIll is he hasn't drafted WRs and you are going to drum up an debate over why drafting the unanimous "can't miss" WR prospect is bad for this team?
@@donywahlberg do you watch football? Most teams have a Marvin Harrison, some teams (Miami Philadelphia Rams Cincinnati) and so on even have two. I could name 30 great wide receivers easily. Just because the pats suck at drafting them doesn’t mean they don’t exist. Look at Pittsburgh. DK 2nd round pick Mclaurin 2nd round Tyreek 6th round Cupp 3rd round. And on and on and on. Did you watch Ole Miss? What about Washington LSU Texas they all have great WRs.
@@donywahlberg Pitts was considered a can’t miss TE, how’s he looking without a good QB. Justin Jefferson Jamar Chase might be the two best WRs in the NFL they’re both going to miss the playoffs. Garret Wilson is great how does he look on the Jets?
So you let him stay...who runs the draft/has left the offense destroyed/handled FA poorly letting good players walk/HERE is the key fact...the team on the field is poorly coached/mistakes/penalties...PATRIOT WAY is done.........get new blood with an offensive mindset/keep up with rest of league.......WHY DIDNT BELICHICK GO OUT GET FLACCO? He does NOTHING for offense.
they should not bring back belichick. its not that i don't appreciate what he did but i feel like the patriots are at the point its time to move on. all things end eventually. with the way the offense looks and the past 4 years things dont look like they are getting better offensively. defensively we are fine and bill can coach defense but its an offensive driven league and having a good defense means nothing when you don't have the offense to complement the defense.
And what is the excuse next year after another 4-10 season? He has always drafted poorly. He jad a losing record before TB12 and again after. His body of work without brady is over 180 games with less than a 450 winning percentage. His ego made him get rid of brady too early because he would rather get rid of someone a year too early than a year too late. Well he bas been around 4 years later than he should have based on his own standards He is a great defensive coach period. Terrible GM and terrible HC. His ego in the superbowl with philly cost then another title. He benched Malcolm Butler. His great defense gave up over 40 points and Brady still almost pulled it off. They would have won if Butler played. Pay respects but move on. He iant entitled to shit. Brady who was thw greatest QB of all time wasn't given any respect by BB. Why does Bill deserve better ? Time to get rid of his grumpy old ass
If you want a new coach who the hell are going to fix the microphones😂😂😂 keep belichick and hire a good GM 👍. But I don't think belichick will go for it has too much pride 😢
Belichick needs someone to save him from himself as the GM of the Patriots. He doesn't want it and if a new GM were hired and they drafted or signed players in free agency he doesn't like, he wouldn't play them if he is the coach next year.
These couch monkeys only exist because of Belichick. They should all be praying to the sky Bill returns and stays. Starting over with an unproven coach would set the team back immeasurably. At least with Bill, and Jayden Daniels or Penix or Nix, there's a chance for a quick turnaround. He did it with Brady and a ballhawking defense. He can do it again. The defense is already here (Judon, Gonzo, Barmore, Peppers, Dugger). Anyone who wants to shitcan Bill doesn't understand the amount of bad luck, turnovers, penalties, and injuries that have played a part in the losing. Referees alone have cost the Patriots at least five games over the past few years. Plus, I, Jimmy Chitwood, will only come back to play if Bill is coach. COACH STAYS.
Bill doesn’t want help. Bill doesn’t believe he needs help. Good coach, not best of all time. Very overrated, very unlikeable. They need a change, modern approach to the actually football being played and the approach to roster building.
I am terrified that if Belichick leaves, our defense leaves with him. They are Top 6 right now in total defense with two key guys out. Next year Top 3. I'll also be pissed if Bill is ousted in favor of Vrabel or Mayo, who don't upgrade us on the offensive side of the ball.
Oh no. Instead of 4-12 they might become 3-13. Lmao. Whatever will we do. We need Belichick's defense to maintain these 4-12 seasons lmao. What are you talking about?
Needing a QB means you are a LONG way away. This team also needs RT and LT, 3 impactful WRs including a #1, young developmental TEs, and at 3rd down back assuming at least Stevenson returns. They also need more coaches so that young players can be developed. Bill notoriously undermans his coaching staff and front office. The whole culture needs to change and I don't think that is possible with Belichick there.
@@Kyle_Riel Stuck with Mac Jones and if zappe was quarterback one from training camp the team would be fighting for a playoff spot and zappe isn't that good either but Mac Jones is so bad he is worse than Tommy Hodson that's how bad he is
@@danhanson4456 They don't need a top ten quarterback to contend and they don't need three receivers they have to resign Henry number one Douglas is good they have a ton of cap space sign a number one receiver.The defenses is good and they arent protected by the offense at all.
WHat? He needs help? But... but... I thought he was the GOAT All those years, I never heard he needed help, it's like he was doing it himself with cogs? Even Brady was a cog and would be easily replaced LOLL
Look at his body of work over the last 5 years, as a coach and a GM, and you have a very long list of poor and downright abysmal decisions made by Bill. Give him a gracious exit, but it has to be an exit.
We were so spoiled with 6 Rings. You owe it to him. I don’t think the QB situation is his fault. The roster is a problem, but the culture and the coach keep us at the cusp of the playoffs.
Give him help, wasn't he responsible for building this team? He should have helped himself by drafting better
Can the Patriots get a GM? No? Then what's the point it's like going in circles. He is an excellent head coach. Get some different talent evaluation. Hopkins has a 1000 yards in Tennessee getting Juju and not keeping Myers paying Parker c'mon.
Anybody who thinks Zappe is the long term answer at quarterback doesn't know football.
What about the people who think that Mac is an NFL quarterback
They will beat the Jets and ruin everything. Sign Baker Mayfield. He might attract Mike Evans and maybe Tyler Boyd draft a top LT in 1st round. QB in 2nd round can sit behind Mayfield for a year. Instant offense. You can always cut or trade Mayfield when the time comes. What WR free agents can you sign with no QB ?
Exactly
The reason this doesn't hit as hard as you want it to is because people have been saying this about him directly in comparison to Mac since last year. And now we all know unarguably that Mac is not an NFL QB so it's hard to sit here and digest another "trust me bro you just don't know football"
@andythompson8930 Those people are 12 year Olds with Mac Jones posters on their wall.
the Patriots dont need a head coach they need a quarterback and some good receivers!!!
bring back his buddy Scott Pioli to help w personnel since he's not doing anything these days 😅
I'd go with that..
How did Broncos come back from 7-23? how did Bills come back from 10-22?
I think they should keep Bill and bring in modern GM.
How did Broncos come back from 7-23? how did Bills come back from 10-22?
Bertrand is off his rocker
Bill isn’t dumb. If he’s back he’s loading up on offense
As a longtime Pats fan, I would be very disappointed to see Bill leave New England.
If bellichick wanted help, he would have gone and gotten it by now. He brought back Patricia and Judge last year because he's not willing to put in the work of hiring and training a new staff. The same goes for drafting and development. He said years ago that he only wants to coach the players he likes, that's why we end up with scrubs like Cole Strange being selected in the first round. The only thing bellichick wants is the Shula record. I believe he still needs 27 regular season wins to get it. Do the math. That's 4 years, at least, of going on with this mediocrity. Good luck to you if that's what you want, but I'm not here for it.
BB would've already moved on from BB
It’s either keep Bill or remove everyone
Good luck getting a GM that have to give instructions and meetings with Bill .
BBB. Bring back Bill. The hell with everyone else.
Wouldn't expect anything else from Zolak. Zolak owes his career to BeliFraud.
Belifraud?😂 you’re so lame
@@mikegrace2819 Actually, I see it's been catching on since I first used it. Don't worry the name and the fraud will both be forgotten in a few months. His disappearance from the league will be more like Cam Newton than Colin Kaepernick, just fade away.
WE NEED BELICHICK STAY! HE WILL MAKE SURE HE DRAFT TALENTED PLAYERS! TEAM PATRIOTS NEED TO HELP EACH OTHER TO DRAFT TALENTED! HELP BELICHICK IN DRAFT!
How did Broncos come back from 7-23? how did Bills come back from 10-22?
Belichick runs the draft. He doesn’t want,and will not accept help. Are you deaf dumb and blind? He built a shit roster, and will do it again.
You want Josh McDaniels to come in and help with evaluating quarterbacks? Really? The guy who thought Tim Tebow was a first round talent?
They are stuck in the past. He also tossed out Carr for Jimmy G who blows
Either blow it up or keep bill cuase the underlings are not going to cut it.
He is a old man playing in a young mans league....what happens when one gets old/have all answers/resistant to change/ fail to adapt to new ways of thinking....Bingo Bill Belichick.
It’s over, time to move on
Move on to who?
Bill will be back with a GM. He only will coach for another couple of years and nobody is going to give him complete control. In the game today 1 man cannot do both. He will be back.
Great idea. Let’s be the only team in history that let our 100% HOF QB walk and go win a SB somewhere else and THEN let our 100% HOF Coach walk out and go where? To the Chargers? And win a SB there, right? Who do we replace him with, oh genius armchair experts? What coach in the nfl or elsewhere do you think has a better pulse on the game than Bill? I’d love to know.
Everyone that’s talking to him has said ‘this guy is 100% still all in on the game of football. He hasn’t lost his step one bit’
You wanna be the team that faces a motivated Bill twice a year? With who at center?!
How many more years do you want to give the old man?
Id like Bill to stay
I know Zolak owes... Yet he is the only sane voice in the blah blah circus.
Keep BB ❤
How did Broncos come back from 7-23? how did Bills come back from 10-22?
Should we bring back Josh at oc
WHat? He needs help? But... but... I thought he was the GOAT All those years, I never heard he needed help, it's like he was doing it himself with cogs? Even Brady was a cog and would be easily replaced LOLL
Problem is if Bill does return, he wants another year. He will not coach under a lame duck situation.
Keep Bill hire a real professional to pick the players media people want a coach that will talk to them pushing this 💩
Zoe is a knucklehead but I like him.
BB won’t take help.
Zolak been a Bill cheerleader all season
Bill could lose every game an Zo would still sign him to an extension
Zappy ain't it but it damn sure ain't Mac. It ain't the coach fault for four turnovers and a half. And all he keeps telling them to do is not turn the ball over. We lost the game against the bills because we turned the ball over to many times. It's not a coaching problem it's an execution problem
I'd rather have Bill than Bertrand.
Keep Bill and get a GM.
Anyone who would use the 3rd overall pick on Harrison just doesn’t understand football. WR is the easiest position to find in the entire league
The literal biggest complaint about BIll is he hasn't drafted WRs and you are going to drum up an debate over why drafting the unanimous "can't miss" WR prospect is bad for this team?
@@donywahlberg do you watch football? Most teams have a Marvin Harrison, some teams (Miami Philadelphia Rams Cincinnati) and so on even have two. I could name 30 great wide receivers easily. Just because the pats suck at drafting them doesn’t mean they don’t exist. Look at Pittsburgh. DK 2nd round pick Mclaurin 2nd round Tyreek 6th round Cupp 3rd round. And on and on and on. Did you watch Ole Miss? What about Washington LSU Texas they all have great WRs.
@@donywahlberg Pitts was considered a can’t miss TE, how’s he looking without a good QB. Justin Jefferson Jamar Chase might be the two best WRs in the NFL they’re both going to miss the playoffs. Garret Wilson is great how does he look on the Jets?
So you let him stay...who runs the draft/has left the offense destroyed/handled FA poorly letting good players walk/HERE is the key fact...the team on the field is poorly coached/mistakes/penalties...PATRIOT WAY is done.........get new blood with an offensive mindset/keep up with rest of league.......WHY DIDNT BELICHICK GO OUT GET FLACCO? He does NOTHING for offense.
they should not bring back belichick. its not that i don't appreciate what he did but i feel like the patriots are at the point its time to move on. all things end eventually. with the way the offense looks and the past 4 years things dont look like they are getting better offensively. defensively we are fine and bill can coach defense but its an offensive driven league and having a good defense means nothing when you don't have the offense to complement the defense.
Bring back Bill as the coach. Hire a GM.
And what is the excuse next year after another 4-10 season? He has always drafted poorly. He jad a losing record before TB12 and again after. His body of work without brady is over 180 games with less than a 450 winning percentage. His ego made him get rid of brady too early because he would rather get rid of someone a year too early than a year too late. Well he bas been around 4 years later than he should have based on his own standards
He is a great defensive coach period. Terrible GM and terrible HC. His ego in the superbowl with philly cost then another title. He benched Malcolm Butler. His great defense gave up over 40 points and Brady still almost pulled it off. They would have won if Butler played. Pay respects but move on. He iant entitled to shit. Brady who was thw greatest QB of all time wasn't given any respect by BB. Why does Bill deserve better ? Time to get rid of his grumpy old ass
If you want a new coach who the hell are going to fix the microphones😂😂😂 keep belichick and hire a good GM 👍. But I don't think belichick will go for it has too much pride 😢
Pop is real, but he is a rook, and he has trouble running the correct route.
Belichick needs someone to save him from himself as the GM of the Patriots. He doesn't want it and if a new GM were hired and they drafted or signed players in free agency he doesn't like, he wouldn't play them if he is the coach next year.
These couch monkeys only exist because of Belichick. They should all be praying to the sky Bill returns and stays. Starting over with an unproven coach would set the team back immeasurably. At least with Bill, and Jayden Daniels or Penix or Nix, there's a chance for a quick turnaround. He did it with Brady and a ballhawking defense. He can do it again. The defense is already here (Judon, Gonzo, Barmore, Peppers, Dugger). Anyone who wants to shitcan Bill doesn't understand the amount of bad luck, turnovers, penalties, and injuries that have played a part in the losing. Referees alone have cost the Patriots at least five games over the past few years. Plus, I, Jimmy Chitwood, will only come back to play if Bill is coach. COACH STAYS.
How did Broncos come back from 7-23? how did Bills come back from 10-22?
Bill doesn’t want help. Bill doesn’t believe he needs help. Good coach, not best of all time. Very overrated, very unlikeable. They need a change, modern approach to the actually football being played and the approach to roster building.
OMG bring back Gosh.....vomit.......
Can't wait for another 4 to 6 win season next year if Bill is back. That dude is a clown
CLOWN we need belicheck
That Belicheck KOOL AID must taste real good!😂😂😂
I am terrified that if Belichick leaves, our defense leaves with him. They are Top 6 right now in total defense with two key guys out. Next year Top 3. I'll also be pissed if Bill is ousted in favor of Vrabel or Mayo, who don't upgrade us on the offensive side of the ball.
Oh no. Instead of 4-12 they might become 3-13. Lmao. Whatever will we do.
We need Belichick's defense to maintain these 4-12 seasons lmao.
What are you talking about?
Lol all these Bill defenders are saying he’s a great DC. Well yeah but he can’t fix the QB.
How did Broncos come back from 7-23? how did Bills come back from 10-22?
I agree with Zo ! 💯In Bill we trust. Mac jones and Tom Curran can go pound sand together !
Cut zappe bring back Mac as a backup. Bill should be allowed to leave on his terms unless he is horrible next season.
The team is actually very good they are a couple of players away from contention they need a quarterback
4-12
Needing a QB means you are a LONG way away. This team also needs RT and LT, 3 impactful WRs including a #1, young developmental TEs, and at 3rd down back assuming at least Stevenson returns. They also need more coaches so that young players can be developed. Bill notoriously undermans his coaching staff and front office. The whole culture needs to change and I don't think that is possible with Belichick there.
@@Kyle_Riel Stuck with Mac Jones and if zappe was quarterback one from training camp the team would be fighting for a playoff spot and zappe isn't that good either but Mac Jones is so bad he is worse than Tommy Hodson that's how bad he is
@@danhanson4456 They don't need a top ten quarterback to contend and they don't need three receivers they have to resign Henry number one Douglas is good they have a ton of cap space sign a number one receiver.The defenses is good and they arent protected by the offense at all.
@@danhanson4456 The receivers all look better under zappe
WHat? He needs help? But... but... I thought he was the GOAT All those years, I never heard he needed help, it's like he was doing it himself with cogs? Even Brady was a cog and would be easily replaced LOLL