Rozdíl tachometr vs. GPS je normální. Japonci mají většinou vyšší rozdíl. Třeba BMW je relativně přesné. Ve finále je vcelku jedno, jestli je to 190 nebo 205 - stejně úplnou maximálkou člověk běžně nejezdí ani v Německu, kde se to ještě smí 👍
@@pavelk. Jo to urcite. Kazdopadne maximalni rychlost je treba vyzkouset alespon jednou. A myslim, ze overeni presnosti se taky hodi kdyz clovek pak muze projet kolem kamery trebas 96km/h a vi, ze je to furt pod 90 a nedostane flastr. Kor kdyz je clovek na ture na par tydnu a chce se nekam dostat.
im 29 and i have 24k saved up, since i was 21. i can buy this bike, this is my dream bike but the problem is i dont have a garage or any other way of storing the bike........
@@nogerboher5266 im not on the same boat finacially but I have one from 2023 dct in sight with 10K kilometres for 14k euros. I dont have garage like you so im thinking a friend of mine can borrow me his garage to store it
This isn't the case on only some "metric" bikes, this is literally the case on ALL bikes that could be registered in the EU. That's because it's impossible to create a speedometer that's perfectly accurate in any situation and there's EU regulation that speedometer offset to actual speed must be between 0 km/h and 4 km/h + 10%. Digital speedometers essentially calculate your speed by multiplying wheel spin (or rather transmission speed) by estimated tire circumference to get distance travelled, then dividing by their polling interval. Analog speedometers are just magnets that get spun around more the higher voltage applies. The more wheelspin, the higher the voltage, the more the magnet gets turned. This also maps rotational speed directly to a driven speed, essentially encoding a tire circumference estimate into it. Both methods also assume optimal slip. But since we don't all use the same tires on the same bikes in the same weather on the same streets, there's some variance to it. Tire circumference gets affected by tire shape, tire wear, even tire temperature, as that affects slip, and the surface you ride on. All of those will affect the legitimacy of the reading you get from your transmission speed sensor. So to prevent going UNDER the 0 km/h offset minimum and displaying a speed lower than your actual speed, manufacturers either overestimate tire circumference, or they add a flat value or a percentage value (or both) on top, to make sure they will stay above the actual speed. So, yeah, this isn't exactly for "safety reasons", it's just to make absolutely sure they stay above actual speed. Also fun fact: all bikes are metric in this regard. Digital tachometers use SI units to do their calculation, displaying mph instead of km/h isn't an intrinsic thing in the display, it's a conversion from the metric readout. Also analog tachometers are made by calculating with SI units, the engineers will use m/s for their calculations then just print a sticker with a mph conversion and slap it on there.
Wow, it sucks to cut at 200 km/h, it had to be at least 250. An MT 03 does this and only has around 42 hp, the Africa Twin has almost 100 hp if I'm not mistaken, regrettable. ☹️
Si la moto cortará a 250 la gente se mataría , hasta esa velocidad la moto anda bien , pero empieza a vibrar la rueda de adelante como la triump tiger , lo cual hace que la gente se mate
Big offroad tires, big windscreen, top box and side cases... its a parachute compared to a slippery sports bike, but this will pull a lot faster at city speeds than an mt03. Also i dont think mt03 gets 196kph gps maybe it could get 180kph without any headwind.
its normal called deviation, maybe its for safety, the manufacturer increase the speed in speedometer so the rider/driver didnt really breaching speed limit
...do těch 10% je to vcelku normální. Je pravda, že Hondy proměřují většinou trochu víc, ale jak píšeš - je to vcelku jedno, je to jen číslo a 200 s tím stejně pojede člověk maximálně v Německu.
@@pavelk. je to premerrni vic nez jine moto co jsem mel (treba yamaha klasika jak auta, tak o 6km).Ale je to kazdopadne schvalne, protoze kdyz na dalnici seknu 150km/h tempomat, vymazu palubni pc, tak za chvili se mi zobrazi prumerna rychlost 137km/h. Takze data to dostava presna....spis jen pro zajimavost.
@0:23, at 179km/h GPS speed, the bike speedo is marking 201km/h?!!!! That's not normal it's too much of a gap! If it was me I would calibrate that at the dealer! A normal speedometer must have a difference between 5 to 10 %, over that is too much.
Obecně je odchylka do +10% normální a "přidává" většina výrobců. Konkrétně u @0:23, at 179km/h GPS je ten rozdíl způsoben hlavně zpožděním GPS. U toho hraje roli spousta faktorů (počet satelitů, ale také rovina nebo sklon silnice) - čili GPS má smysl primárně na porovnání výsledku v té maximální (pokud možno ustálené) rychlosti (ideálně na vodorovné silnici).
@@hugopnabais To ten překladač asi moc dobře nefunguje 😆. Moje angličtina bohužel není lepší. In general, a deviation of up to +10% is normal and is "added" by most motorcycle brands. Specifically at @0:23, at 179km/h GPS, the difference is mainly caused by the GPS delay. There are a lot of factors (number of satellites, but also the plane or slope of the road) - that is, GPS makes sense primarily to compare the result at the maximum (preferably steady) speed (ideally on a horizontal road).
That’s normal, and the GPS is right, you cannot measure the true speed of something while being on it, the bike does a guess based on revolutions and wheel size displacement, so if you change wheel size the speedometer needs to be recalibrated. The speedometer have no way of know if the wind it’s in your favor or not, that also influence in the true speed, while the GPS take the position from an external point so it knows true movement speed. Simpler example, if you put it on a treadmill technically your speed is 0, but the bike would still say something else
@@user-wm3qq5hs6t It isn't actually false. They are just playing safe with margin of error. All vehicles are doing it to some degree. Honda approach is a little excessive though.
@@pavelk.the clip is more about the bike's stability at those speeds with that setup and much less about top speed. The title should be a different one unless ... clickbait in which case ... you lose viewers long term.
@@pavelk. a title with the term "top speed" is always more popular than a title with the phrase "stability at high speed with cases on". Ask me how I know it! This was NOT a top speed run for this bike. It was uphill and you had the cases on. Why would you refer to it as "top speed" if it wasn't for clickbait purposes? Sorry, don't buy it!
What is big boys? I only have a moderately, um yeah, modified 2010 VMAX and 2020 Kaw H2 (not H2R). I guess “big boys” start with the H2R or twin turbo GSXR1000?
To záleží na využití. Jestli s tím chceš jezdit i v terénu a jak dobře jsi se učil (kolik na to máš v prasátku našetřeno). GS bude vždy dražší. Byl jsem teď na představení nového GS 900 a 1300. Ta 900 se mi líbila snad i víc - proti 850 je to vyšší a víc do terénu. Na 1300 mi přijde zvláštní to světlo s radarem nad ním. Africa i ATAS má na příští sezónu taky nějaké novinky. Stejně musíš vyrazit k dealerům a sednout si na to a projet se. Podle toho co ti víc sedne, tak vybrat. To ti žádná recenze nerozhodne.
Adventure sports have tubeless wheels,so is possible to have better top speed.The standard L version have tube wheels and the maximum allowed top speed must be 190 km/h or below.I think there is a top speed electronic regulator for that model from Honda.
@@Yt_xriderthe guy didn't tell you that he had the hard cases on and he's quite tall himself and they are riding ... uphill! All and all an idiotic attempt for top speed. I only admired the stability of the bike with those cases attached.
Спасибо тебе за звук мотора без болтовни
Много шума, лучше использовать микрофон
Шикарный мотоцикл 😁🔥
I mean, it's interesting to know, but it's kinda like saying "what's the top speed of a Jeep Wrangler?"
Awesome 👏 😮❤❤❤❤
Super. Tez jsem zkousel max rychlost na Tiger 900 RP. AT jen o trosku rychlejsi. Mam video tak klidne koukni. Tigr ze 205km/h, Garmin tvrdil 190km/h
Rozdíl tachometr vs. GPS je normální. Japonci mají většinou vyšší rozdíl. Třeba BMW je relativně přesné. Ve finále je vcelku jedno, jestli je to 190 nebo 205 - stejně úplnou maximálkou člověk běžně nejezdí ani v Německu, kde se to ještě smí 👍
@@pavelk. Jo to urcite. Kazdopadne maximalni rychlost je treba vyzkouset alespon jednou. A myslim, ze overeni presnosti se taky hodi kdyz clovek pak muze projet kolem kamery trebas 96km/h a vi, ze je to furt pod 90 a nedostane flastr. Kor kdyz je clovek na ture na par tydnu a chce se nekam dostat.
Perfect 👍
my dream motor :( one day i wiill buy it, i hope before i am 32 i can.
I wish, I'm 35 years old and have a 150 cc. I speak here from Brazil.
i save %53 of the momey and im 28 now😄 but ihabe now other plans@@raphaelvilela89
im 29 and i have 24k saved up, since i was 21.
i can buy this bike, this is my dream bike but the problem is i dont have a garage or any other way of storing the bike........
i wish you will get it soon
@@nogerboher5266 im not on the same boat finacially but I have one from 2023 dct in sight with 10K kilometres for 14k euros. I dont have garage like you so im thinking a friend of mine can borrow me his garage to store it
Nice
The new transalp 750 2023 do 220 kmh on the screen 😊
ruclips.net/video/etHx8CcJPSs/видео.html
ON some Metric bikes the speedometers are set on average 6 mph over actual speed ! I believe this is done to give us riders a cushion.
You're right 👍
Right
This isn't the case on only some "metric" bikes, this is literally the case on ALL bikes that could be registered in the EU.
That's because it's impossible to create a speedometer that's perfectly accurate in any situation and there's EU regulation that speedometer offset to actual speed must be between 0 km/h and 4 km/h + 10%.
Digital speedometers essentially calculate your speed by multiplying wheel spin (or rather transmission speed) by estimated tire circumference to get distance travelled, then dividing by their polling interval.
Analog speedometers are just magnets that get spun around more the higher voltage applies. The more wheelspin, the higher the voltage, the more the magnet gets turned. This also maps rotational speed directly to a driven speed, essentially encoding a tire circumference estimate into it.
Both methods also assume optimal slip.
But since we don't all use the same tires on the same bikes in the same weather on the same streets, there's some variance to it.
Tire circumference gets affected by tire shape, tire wear, even tire temperature, as that affects slip, and the surface you ride on. All of those will affect the legitimacy of the reading you get from your transmission speed sensor.
So to prevent going UNDER the 0 km/h offset minimum and displaying a speed lower than your actual speed, manufacturers either overestimate tire circumference, or they add a flat value or a percentage value (or both) on top, to make sure they will stay above the actual speed.
So, yeah, this isn't exactly for "safety reasons", it's just to make absolutely sure they stay above actual speed.
Also fun fact: all bikes are metric in this regard.
Digital tachometers use SI units to do their calculation, displaying mph instead of km/h isn't an intrinsic thing in the display, it's a conversion from the metric readout.
Also analog tachometers are made by calculating with SI units, the engineers will use m/s for their calculations then just print a sticker with a mph conversion and slap it on there.
Same for cars
@@felixhbr2426 Thanks. This is the answer that I've been looking for for years. This is not just an answer this is an article.
Wow, it sucks to cut at 200 km/h, it had to be at least 250. An MT 03 does this and only has around 42 hp, the Africa Twin has almost 100 hp if I'm not mistaken, regrettable. ☹️
🤡
Si la moto cortará a 250 la gente se mataría , hasta esa velocidad la moto anda bien , pero empieza a vibrar la rueda de adelante como la triump tiger , lo cual hace que la gente se mate
Transalp 750 same speed
Just buy a sports bike then
Big offroad tires, big windscreen, top box and side cases... its a parachute compared to a slippery sports bike, but this will pull a lot faster at city speeds than an mt03. Also i dont think mt03 gets 196kph gps maybe it could get 180kph without any headwind.
Why is the bike speedo so different then gps speed ? There's a big gap between them 🤨
its normal called deviation, maybe its for safety, the manufacturer increase the speed in speedometer so the rider/driver didnt really breaching speed limit
Afrika tacho vs gps premeruje silene, to jsem jeste nevidel. O vic nez 20km? To je ujety. Jinak ale na africe je super ze vas nenuti jezdit top speed.
...do těch 10% je to vcelku normální. Je pravda, že Hondy proměřují většinou trochu víc, ale jak píšeš - je to vcelku jedno, je to jen číslo a 200 s tím stejně pojede člověk maximálně v Německu.
@@pavelk. je to premerrni vic nez jine moto co jsem mel (treba yamaha klasika jak auta, tak o 6km).Ale je to kazdopadne schvalne, protoze kdyz na dalnici seknu 150km/h tempomat, vymazu palubni pc, tak za chvili se mi zobrazi prumerna rychlost 137km/h. Takze data to dostava presna....spis jen pro zajimavost.
i prefer this manual version than the dct
Why? Did you try both?
@@yuribotnaru3359 yeah .. on pave its great but offroad dct tends to shift early or sometimes got confuse when to shift in muddy tracks
Wow! thats almost a 20 mph difference....... So when the officer asked do I know how fast I was going I can Honestly say I have no Idea hahahahaha
20 kmph difference not mph
Does anyone know what application is he using to measure speed by GPS?
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ktwapps.speedometer&hl=cs&gl=US
Any navigator that displays speed will help you
Мне не кажется GPS точным прибором у него погрешность официально + - 5 км/ч
Madness to speed so high with tubed tires....
whatever, been doing it for 30 years
CRF 1100 comes with tubeless tires.
so this is slover that crf1000?
Вот это мотоцикл!!!!
It seems that the GPS is not working well! a difference more than 15Km/h is not a reliable or realistic measurement!
계기판이랑 GPS 랑 오차가 20km 나 나네요....
@0:23, at 179km/h GPS speed, the bike speedo is marking 201km/h?!!!! That's not normal it's too much of a gap! If it was me I would calibrate that at the dealer! A normal speedometer must have a difference between 5 to 10 %, over that is too much.
Obecně je odchylka do +10% normální a "přidává" většina výrobců. Konkrétně u @0:23, at 179km/h GPS je ten rozdíl způsoben hlavně zpožděním GPS. U toho hraje roli spousta faktorů (počet satelitů, ale také rovina nebo sklon silnice) - čili GPS má smysl primárně na porovnání výsledku v té maximální (pokud možno ustálené) rychlosti (ideálně na vodorovné silnici).
@@pavelk. I have no ideia of what you're saying 😅
@@hugopnabais To ten překladač asi moc dobře nefunguje 😆. Moje angličtina bohužel není lepší. In general, a deviation of up to +10% is normal and is "added" by most motorcycle brands. Specifically at @0:23, at 179km/h GPS, the difference is mainly caused by the GPS delay. There are a lot of factors (number of satellites, but also the plane or slope of the road) - that is, GPS makes sense primarily to compare the result at the maximum (preferably steady) speed (ideally on a horizontal road).
That’s normal, and the GPS is right, you cannot measure the true speed of something while being on it, the bike does a guess based on revolutions and wheel size displacement, so if you change wheel size the speedometer needs to be recalibrated. The speedometer have no way of know if the wind it’s in your favor or not, that also influence in the true speed, while the GPS take the position from an external point so it knows true movement speed.
Simpler example, if you put it on a treadmill technically your speed is 0, but the bike would still say something else
topcase on?
Yes
Mine cfr1000 goes 198km/h , so difference minor 9km/h. 1000cc and 110occ
But still there's also torque and power to consider
Das ist nicht so ein Motorrad wo Endgeschwindigkeit große Rolle spielt - meine Meinung
215, termasuk cepat utk ukuran motor adventure
Pensavo qualcosa in più
Non e fatto per andsre su strada e piu da enduro
A quanto volete andare con un 21 anteriore?
Io con la mia lo portata a 225 🤣🤣🤣
Keren
You don't have to red-line it in every single gear!!!
You don't? I always thought they had to be on the limiter before you go to the next gear!
I bet you do not even ride a motorcycle
tenere 700 215 km/s -400 cc
Fa un 1100 bicilindrico mi aspettavo un po' di più il mio italianissimo bicilindrico italiano arrivata a 240 e finita la strada libera
20 kilómetros por hora miente el tablero, un montón.
Why 20 km/h difference?
Most motorcycle speedos show 10% more. The GPS shows actual real speed.
@@pajownik but why are speedos false?
@@user-wm3qq5hs6t It isn't actually false. They are just playing safe with margin of error. All vehicles are doing it to some degree. Honda approach is a little excessive though.
Is this with the side box and top case?
Yes, with the side box and top case.
@@pavelk.the clip is more about the bike's stability at those speeds with that setup and much less about top speed. The title should be a different one unless ... clickbait in which case ... you lose viewers long term.
@@C_R_O_M________ ...clickbait??? I don't think so 🤔
@@pavelk. a title with the term "top speed" is always more popular than a title with the phrase "stability at high speed with cases on". Ask me how I know it! This was NOT a top speed run for this bike. It was uphill and you had the cases on. Why would you refer to it as "top speed" if it wasn't for clickbait purposes? Sorry, don't buy it!
Tell me lies..... Tell me sweet Little lies
This is scary 😅
Quite slow..
Bro, why does it seem like your kll switch is on "off" position 😂
Time you stepped up now and try competing with the big boys.
What is big boys? I only have a moderately, um yeah, modified 2010 VMAX and 2020 Kaw H2 (not H2R). I guess “big boys” start with the H2R or twin turbo GSXR1000?
All Japanese car and motorbike do this in Japan all car have on speedometer 180km/h.... Japanese government rules don't know why
Stále přemýšlím, jestli koupit tohle nebo BMW GSko. Kluci, poraďte mi prosím. :D
To záleží na využití. Jestli s tím chceš jezdit i v terénu a jak dobře jsi se učil (kolik na to máš v prasátku našetřeno). GS bude vždy dražší. Byl jsem teď na představení nového GS 900 a 1300. Ta 900 se mi líbila snad i víc - proti 850 je to vyšší a víc do terénu. Na 1300 mi přijde zvláštní to světlo s radarem nad ním. Africa i ATAS má na příští sezónu taky nějaké novinky. Stejně musíš vyrazit k dealerům a sednout si na to a projet se. Podle toho co ti víc sedne, tak vybrat. To ti žádná recenze nerozhodne.
Děkuji moc za odpověď.@@pavelk.
Oh Then thats better hahahahahaha
Manca
sucks for a 1100 tbh
That is really slow. It cost 10k more then my Nc 700x and it only does 25 km/h faster. That is a shame
😂🤷♂
They limit the speed because its not safe for that kind of bike. Torque is more important
You could strap a jet engine to a bicycle. Real bang for the buck. 😂
I have a 2020 africa twin crf1100 adventure sports dct es, iv had it 215kmh and still had more revs to go, it also got there Alot faster than yours 🤔
My height + weight + cases and the highway in this section is slightly uphill
Adventure sports have tubeless wheels,so is possible to have better top speed.The standard L version have tube wheels and the maximum allowed top speed must be 190 km/h or below.I think there is a top speed electronic regulator for that model from Honda.
@@rmejc 400 - 450 m
@@TitaniumRxx no no. Is really a bike with little power and a big weight. A 800 or 900 goes a lot faster
I have an africa twin and I can get 215.5kph it also gets there faster 😂😂😂😂😂
For a 1000 cc Is nothing.......
this bike about reliability
wtf,a thai heavily modified wave 125 with 72/9 4valve 5gear can exceed +200kph,this big honda twin cant😂😂😂
the transalp is 750 and it is faster,honda big bikes getting slower.
@@Yt_xriderthe guy didn't tell you that he had the hard cases on and he's quite tall himself and they are riding ... uphill! All and all an idiotic attempt for top speed. I only admired the stability of the bike with those cases attached.
@@C_R_O_M________i like the transalp now btw,it is cheaper than the vstrom and the tenere.I change my mind i want this bike😂
@@C_R_O_M________i mean the vstrom 800 and tenere 700 not the 1k cc bug daddies
Should've got a GS🙄
Its never enough, ITS NEVER ENOOOUGH
GS500 ‘92 for the win 🎉😊
Africa twin is better
Slow af compared to its competitors like the bmw and ktm adventure bikes 🙄 I was gonna get one not now
У меня, африка на механнике, при переключении передачи не дёргается как твой автомат.
This is not a DCT!
Автомат как раз и не дёргается 😇
Ducati Desertx is better
😂😂😂 so slow
ma i contachilometri delle Honda li fa paperino, sono i piu' inesatti del mercato
Slow
20kmph? f**k honda!!!!!!!!
Honda🤡
Cbr650r much better top speed and also cheaper.
Try taking that off road for once 😂
rezalet
Gps is not the same ground speed
Gps %10
like every honda
Nn va una cippa. Delusione
Slow