If my memory is correct, wasn't the Flobert round the actual first .22 rimfire? Manufactured in 1845 by Louis Flobert as the .22 BB cap. Thank you for your presentation.
I was excited at first because I thought you would show a .22 Long. When I was growing up we had mostly .22 shorts and .22 long. You could buy them almost anywhere like hardware stores. Of course we also had the .22 LR. We didn't have the exotic CCI stingers or anything like that. I mostly had shorts and Yellow Jacket in.22 LR in a milk carton like container.
The rimfire suffers (even today) from more misfires than centerfire. that being said every country in the world had em for calibers up to 50. To me.. the problem besides the unreliability of em was that you had to throw em away. This when you could use loose powder and ball and caps. later they even stopped making the rimfire replacements like the 32 and 44 so the gun became useless. Not saying the cartridges were bad.. they were great for their time but guns chambered in em had a shelf life where centerfire or even percussion are still useable today.
There are so many rimfire cartridges that have been made in the past. The original cartridge for the Springfield Rifle, Trapdoor, was a rimfire. In looking for reload tools for a 25-20 model 92 Well it turns out there have been four 25-20 cartridges. The most common being 25-20WCF. Less common 25-25 Single Shot, there was a 25-20 Rimfire as well. The last was a 25-20 Marlin. There were center fire cartridges that look like rimfire cartridges. The name escapes me at this time. This style was used in early Trapdoor Rifles. The Production of 32 rimfire might be a business opportunity for someone. there are a lot of handguns in that caliber out here.
I remember .22 short and .22 long, but at a penny a piece I only shot .22 lr 40 gr. RN Winchester ammo in my Winchester M69a bolt action rifle. It was a tack driver. Then I graduated to surplus WW2 rifles that flooded the US market and were dirt cheap.
To me.. I would have preferred the Spencer to any other rifle/carbine during the civil war. It was more powerful than the Henry and very accurate. the action... while a tad slow was very robust compared to the Henry and 7 rounds was more than enough for about any situation IMO... A Spencer carbine would be extremely handy. and would still reach out another 50-100 yards over the Henry. I have a 'Vetereli' (sp) in 44 rimfire. it is a tube magazine bolt action rifle (military) in 44 rimfire. the round is a bottleneck round smokeless that has about the power of say a 44 magnum revolver but holds 10 or so of the rounds in a tube mag. I have seen these guns converted to centerfire and it works out great! I may do so if I ever have the time.
Enjoyed your round up of rounds Mr. Green. Just can't get my head around those unfortunate troops going up against a Cheyene warring party armed with musket loaders. How many arrows can a warrior let fly in the time it takes to load a musket. That would explain the multiple arrow wounds l would think, that and they were lured into an ambush. An interesting piece of history, thank you sir.
Interesting, informative, and enjoyable video, Evan, as usual. 👍 It would be great if you were to post a video every Friday.
If my memory is correct, wasn't the Flobert round the actual first .22 rimfire? Manufactured in 1845 by Louis Flobert as the .22 BB cap. Thank you for your presentation.
I was excited at first because I thought you would show a .22 Long. When I was growing up we had mostly .22 shorts and .22 long. You could buy them almost anywhere like hardware stores. Of course we also had the .22 LR. We didn't have the exotic CCI stingers or anything like that. I mostly had shorts and Yellow Jacket in.22 LR in a milk carton like container.
I did not have a .22 Long in either the museum's collection or my own. Couldn't find any for sale except online.
I glad to see that my suggestion has been implemented, what a great presentation of ammo!
Thank you Evan
Nelson from Virginia.
The rimfire suffers (even today) from more misfires than centerfire. that being said every country in the world had em for calibers up to 50. To me.. the problem besides the unreliability of em was that you had to throw em away. This when you could use loose powder and ball and caps. later they even stopped making the rimfire replacements like the 32 and 44 so the gun became useless. Not saying the cartridges were bad.. they were great for their time but guns chambered in em had a shelf life where centerfire or even percussion are still useable today.
There are so many rimfire cartridges that have been made in the past. The original cartridge for the Springfield Rifle, Trapdoor, was a rimfire. In looking for reload tools for a 25-20 model 92 Well it turns out there have been four 25-20 cartridges. The most common being 25-20WCF. Less common 25-25 Single Shot, there was a 25-20 Rimfire as well. The last was a 25-20 Marlin.
There were center fire cartridges that look like rimfire cartridges. The name escapes me at this time. This style was used in early Trapdoor Rifles.
The Production of 32 rimfire might be a business opportunity for someone. there are a lot of handguns in that caliber out here.
.22 BB cap and CB cap? .22 long? Skipped all of them
Did not have examples to show.
I remember .22 short and .22 long, but at a penny a piece I only shot .22 lr 40 gr. RN Winchester ammo in my Winchester M69a bolt action rifle. It was a tack driver. Then I graduated to surplus WW2 rifles that flooded the US market and were dirt cheap.
Where exactly in Eastern Colorado do you originaly hale from Evan.??
I was raised on a working cattle ranch about 7 miles southwest of the town of Fort Morgan.
To me.. I would have preferred the Spencer to any other rifle/carbine during the civil war. It was more powerful than the Henry and very accurate. the action... while a tad slow was very robust compared to the Henry and 7 rounds was more than enough for about any situation IMO... A Spencer carbine would be extremely handy. and would still reach out another 50-100 yards over the Henry. I have a 'Vetereli' (sp) in 44 rimfire. it is a tube magazine bolt action rifle (military) in 44 rimfire. the round is a bottleneck round smokeless that has about the power of say a 44 magnum revolver but holds 10 or so of the rounds in a tube mag. I have seen these guns converted to centerfire and it works out great! I may do so if I ever have the time.
Enjoyed your round up of rounds Mr. Green. Just can't get my head around those unfortunate troops going up against a Cheyene warring party armed with musket loaders. How many arrows can a warrior let fly in the time it takes to load a musket. That would explain the multiple arrow wounds l would think, that and they were lured into an ambush. An interesting piece of history, thank you sir.
Thank you Evan
Sorry to say that you skipped over the .22 Long, a shorted round than the .22 Long rifle.
Yes, long rifle case and short bullet. Don't have one in at the museum or in my personal collection. Are they even making longs these days?
I like the 22ee
Yes CCI still makes them I just wish someone would sell them at a store you have to order them and shipping makes them cost more than lr.
You left out the 22 long
Didn't have one to show. Not in the museum collection or mine.
I'm fixing to escape Toronto Ontario, any commies there ?
Thank you Evan
Thank you Evan