@@DamonWhatif I did the math for age as well Damon I estimate about 2 years past plus the one in the time chamber. If we take the sonic squad cannon age as the start of this timeline and say that goku and all dragon ball characters are start of dragon ball age youngest to oldest we have Tails 11 Amy 15 Goku 15 Tien 19 Sonic 18 Knuckles 19 They are not as young as I thought
@@goveberbuyit1221 I’m mean to be fair she mellowed out since the dark age games and has been characterized better both her classic and modern versions.
What will Super Goku be combined with Super Saiyan looks like I think it should just be super saiyan but with purple-eye combining the blue-eye of Super Saiyan and the red-eye of Super Sonic
@@fabriserra1227 alternatively we could chaos sayain if somehow goku uses negative chaos energy and goes full on rage mode(that'll probably never happen though)
The Shadow Arc is emotionally important to Eggman because his grandfather and cousin are involved. Both the grandfather and cousin dying by GUN. Shadow, Maria, Gerald, and Ivo are all family and this should play a role in his villainy If you want more drama, you can have Gerald Robotnik (Grandfather) change Maria (cousin) into a Hedgehog to save her life making Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik conflicted. It can also introduce the bio-engineering in future arcs.
I was so hyped for the Sonic Adventure adaptation/Chaos Piccolo arc, and I wasn't disappointed! This was so amazing and really worth it the wait! Nice that Tikal is still alive, and now I'm really curious to see how the story is going to continue, after this arc. And if Raditz is going to be like how he is in DB, then he's definetly screwed since everyone on Earth is now really powerful.
I am shocked that Sonic unlocked Chaos Form and Goku transformed into Super Goku and later into Super Grade Ape. I can't wait to see what will happen in part 7.
I question how 6 people could go into the Hyperbolic Time Chamber at once AND last 1 year, but considering Chaos Control can do pretty much anything, I think Tikal just made the group unlimited food to last the year.
I tried to mention that it was made up of Chaos magic, so this version of the Time Chamber can definitely hold more than 2 people, and the food will just refresh itself everyday to last everybody a year
Meh, Piccolo, Goten, Trunks, & Buu were all in there at once - Vegeta and Goku went in for a number of years at a time - The chamber really has no restrictions at this point. It's a bit........ Chaotic....
Dude, these videos are so well made that it actually inspired me to write again. I just love how you mixed the Dragon Ball and Sonic plots so seemlessly together... It actually makes me feel like this deserves an actual legitimate adaptation officially! Like I can visualize the scenes so perfectly in my head it's that good!
Another good job of blending together the Demon King Piccolo Saga with Sonic Adventure together and best part yet. 👍 Ah yes Power Levels I thought you did a pretty good job with it. 👍 My favorite part was Super Goku taking on Chaos Demon King Piccolo, but man Goku been able to tap into Chaos Energy & going Great Ape caught me of guard. Anyways another really good part, and looking forward to the next part soon.
@@___king___ He never said he wasn't or couldn't, so it's probably going to continue on as it is, no need to make it a season 2, unless Damon wants to call it that
I imagine that for the next saga the events of Sonic Adventure 2 will continue along with the 23rd martial arts tournament, where it is most likely that we will see a little bit of everything in said saga.
Nice Damon, nice, the time chamber got a good use this time since more people were in it, and Goku is even at Raditz level before he even comes, and Super Goku was a good touch to see, amy, Tails, are stronger in this too, can't wait when the Saiyan saga comes around and that will be great to see what happens.
Yeah, SA2 definitely going to co-exist with Saiyan Saga at this rate. Nothing but sheer confidence in this. Love how you're keeping everything so absurdly true to it's source material. Nothing feels changed in a way where its drastically different to source! Round of APPLAUSE!
Impossible,UI can't be mixed with feelings,the chaos emeralds uses feelings,but ultra ego could be mixed with the chaos emeralds...... Only destructive feelings
I always thought that tien had a power level of 180 in the piccolo arc I also imagine that the boost of the time chamber would be bigger since they had an extra 4 training partners
@@DamonWhatif it's ok bro but look at this if the story is already this good and only in og imagine how crazy it will be in z and super and please try making the last remaning sayains trun against frieza anyway thank you for this awsome what if video man
This is such a great video like always! The only problem is Tiem being 145 instead of 180 like its stated as daizenshuu. Regardless, I'm so happy you still make the best what if content imo
I'm just imagining the inevitable redundancy of Super Super Saiyan Goku and beyond 🤣. Good job, man. And don't fuss too much about power levels, just do what works narratively!
Honestly, I'm enjoying this more than most of the Sonic games story lines. Really want someone to make a game featuring this crossover, would be so spic!
I can't wait to see more of this I really want to see more this is so great I wonder how Sonic and Goku look like when they both grow up in this what if but the power levels I like it it's all right you would do great
You weren't kidding about this being a big one! I've got a few comments, so I'm going to go in order: Eggman's demise sure was a shock! It was more surprising to see Mighty and the Chaotix, but after wondering what you had against Charmy and the slaughter continuing the Dragonball plan became clear. On the subject of surprise character introductions, Max/Sally Acorn have *way* more potential than the Terrier! Still, with how many characters have already appeared, hopefully the story can stay balanced (at least give King Acorn a more relevant role if Sally gets one?) 4:00 It's no use? Was that intentional? Additionally at 5:20 and later you used Rosie again, but I guess mentioning it may be no use as well. What's with Shenron not granting the same thing twice? This doesn't seem to be true in the main series outside of revival. Did you make it up to keep the story engaging? (On that topic, feel free to bump up later villains to be better challenges. A lot to work with here in terms of power!) While not bad, the whole ending fight and victory felt... unearned. Again, there's a lot of different characters and forms to work with, but especially after giving Chaos and Super to Sonic and Goku, it was just too much. It's a bit like if all of the Super Saiyan forms were of near equal level, and the different characters all tried them one at a time until a power boost suddenly occured. For what it's worth, let me clear something else up. If I stop commenting on these, it'll almost definitely *not* be because the story got worse. I'm in the process of finally getting SA2, and hope to enter it only remembering certain segments like most of what happens on the Ark. You did say the next part will be somewhat new for both franchises, but I may stay on the safe side and completely avoid anything that could be related to that story. All in all, this remains one of your most creative works, and you're still doing great! No matter arc order/adaptation, it's always pretty cool. Keep on running!
I’m really glad you enjoyed! Shenron was confirmed in the early Saiyan saga to never be able to grant “the same wish twice”. Goku said that after Raditz took Gohan. So im taking that as the same of any wish can’t be granted. I completely understand the final right argument, as the chaos emeralds can definitely boost anybody in power, but that’s a crutch I have to deal with lol. Hope you enjoy your play through of SA2!
@@DamonWhatif 1. Oh, ok. 2. Fair enough? 3. Thanks! Spent over a year trying to get GameCube parts and a disc, to finally notice Steam Keys have been around for years.
The “can’t revive the same person twice” actually stems from the “can’t grant the same wish twice” rule. For example, you couldn’t wish your best friend back to life twice, but if you Mass revive a group of people that said friend was a part of, then that person could be revived twice because it’s a different wish.
@@wolfherojohnson2766 I remember the no wish twice thing now, but I don't mass revives from Shenron still not bring back people who died before? They said something about this in the Cell Saga before the tournament.
The Chaotix can play a role better than simple bodyguards, have them hired by Princess Sally to track down the Hooligans saving the heroes instead of Yamcha’s betrayal and the detectives bring the Hooligans to Sally and she gives them two options, prison for life or join the Chaotix and work for Sally, when they decide to join she will have them help people with their day to day lives pretty much be the butlers of Acorn Kingdom, sometimes their spy’s or detectives maybe bodyguards and help improve the environment, no one knows Sally hires them to avoid problems with the King, Sally fears her father will stop her plans in making the world a better place, just like that more people are important to the story!
Regarding this story it really shows just how the Chaos Emeralds are so powerful everybody going to get a boost in strength he’ll Raditz is going to be super easy but overall this was a great video man can’t wait to see more
I’m really enjoying this series! I’m glad my boy was finally able to use chaos energy 😁👍🏾 I wonder if we’re still gonna see Super Saiyan or if Chaos Goku will replace it 🤔
Wow! This is incredible stuff. Since the world knows the deeds of the team, this might effect things later down the line. I just hope you include how the world is effected by these events. I guess it just always bugged me that such crazy things happened and everyone forgets and moves on. King Piccolo is like if Hitler had super powers. And there was video evidence! How do people forget that!?
Yo, that, is awesome! Hope to see more in Part 7 and Damn, Goku is gonna be guilty for a long while as he now knows why his Grandpa Gohan ded, and Chaos Sonic is cool, along with Super Oozaru Goku, and Maybe Piccolo can turn good due to him being a baby. owo And ooooh boi, will Raditz and his Saiyan 'comrades' be dumbfounded when they see not only Goku being stronger than Raditz, Sonic and the rest of the gang are too. :3
So for universe 6 you have 2 options you can either have Scourge be Sonic’s universe 6 counterpart or you could have it be Blaze both are valid options though.
Holy moly those power levels. Radizt is going to be a joke when he shows up lmao. Man this what if is crazy but I love it and the integration of Sonic elements with DB mixes so well. Freaking Demon King Piccolo being almost as strong as Captain Ginyu is great.
Jeez there's something about seeing the Sonic characters you grew up with no matter the eras dying that just breaks your heart man.... I'll finish this comment later. Edit: My lord this what if is getting better and better funny how Sally showed up as I expected at the end for her to develop somewhat of a crush on Sonic. And those power levels, Raditz, Nappa, Vegeta, and the Frieza Force except Frieza wouldn't stand a chance if these characters kept up with their training and accessed the Chaos and Master Emeralds powers more. Also can't wait to see how Piccolo and Gohan are implemented in this story when you get to the aftermath and onward.👍
@@CyanicCore Yeah. Sadly he's essentially Android Saga Vegeta where if they actually cared about his development in SA2, his self-titled game, and 06 (for what it's worth), he'd basically be characterized similarly to Super-era Vegeta...
I love this saga sense evan with all of our hero's training, after goku got the super form power up, caos picolo still sood as an nearly unstopable enemy.
@@CyanicCore I looked for one that combines dragon ball and one piece but I never found one. I found some where Goku and luffy meet but I want to do what Damon did here and combine the two universes
May I just say that I love the Idea of Super Goku? It’s just awesome! Not only that, But there are design choices made to differentiate Super Goku from Super Saiyan Goku, as SSJ Goku has Blue Eyes, while Super Goku has red eyes like Super Sonic!!! All I can say about Super Goku is, In the words of Sonic from Aosth, Satam and Underground, “Way Past Cool!!!”
This part was insane Super Goku? HECK YEAH Amy not being the Chi Chi/Sakura of the group? HECK YEAH I somehow find Tien with Tails and Amy kinda adorable
Woohoo!! I predicted Shadow. Anyways, here's the powerscaling Z-Fighters - Universe level+ Chaos Sonic and Chaos Knuckles - Universe level+ Super Goku - Universe level+ Super Oozaru Goku - Universe level+ (could give Frieza a run for his money)
you really should add the chaos shift forms (red=fire blue=water cyan=ice white = air green=earth purple=dark yellow=electric) btw:Love your vids. edit: i was really expecting sonic to go dark form
My god. Raditz is gonna crap his pants instantly seeing all of these power levels on the planet and run away. Actually that might not be good, considering the scouter would show that to Vegeta Nappa and the Freeza force as well. Maybe even the Black Arms too if they're apart of the Frieza Force. And my god this also escalates Cell to a Galactic threat instantly with all the more powerful DNA samples and Chaos energy. Same with Buu possibly absorbing the Emeralds. Actually it's funny that Cell will probably be more Mobian looking in this timeline too with all the extra people being apart of him. However you twist this though I'll watch the entire way. Keep up the good work man. I'll watch it to the end.
Yeah When Raditz's scouter reports those numbers Frieza would likely see this as a threat to his empire and go there to put a stop to it. Right after he goes to Namek to wish for immortality. I can imagine Cell with the 9 original fighters with the added chaos form from piccolo with Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Shadow, Silver, and any other hero or villain in the sonic series causing in to get a very high power level. I also see him wiping the floor with Vegeta and Shadow and then saying "NOW I'M THE ULTIMATE LIFEFORM!" I can possible see the same thing happening for Buu so yeah... These villains are going to be more dangerous than their cannon counterparts.
@@StarKiller-jq2bu and add on the fact that something’s may get triggered early through sheer necessity. The Dream Z era will be a time of great trial and hardship.
@@StarKiller-jq2bu Hey bright side Goku and Sonic will welcome the challenge with a smile alongside the watchers. And more people to share a smile with
FINALLY home from work and able to watch Edit: Okay finished the episode and WOW. This is probably my favorite episode of any What If you have done so far. The way you're blending Sonic and Dragon Ball so seamlessly is incredible
Loved this! I'd like to see what happens when they witness the natural, non Chaos Emeralds form of all Saiyans, the Super Saiyan. Imagine a Super Saiyan using Chaos Emeralds to go extra Super.
Glad to see I'm not the only person to have ever come up with the idea of the Chaos Kamehameha. Came up with it for a fanfiction I wrote many years ago, kinda cool to see it here, lol.
If you told me 6 years ago that I would love a Dragon Ball story, I would have laughed in your face over that. But here I am, finding this Dragon Ball story more interesting than some My Hero Academia stories. I might be prideful, but I am also brutally honest when it comes to the things I like.
This is good man👍 and the power level I actually see that is accurate oh and I I helped with the Chaos Emeralds in super form the multiplier I believe is thousand percent so you're welcome also chaos Sonic! And super goku! Your awesome damon
@@DamonWhatif You're welcome, i can't wait of what Shadow the Hedgehog and Piccolo could do in this neat crossover with Goku and Sonic as potential frenemies.
Regards to the Sonic gang part, there's a lot of issues I have with this that conflicts with established Sonic lore from both Game Canon and Archie Canon. For an example, Sonic being powered up by the Master Emerald would result in either: Games: Hyper Sonic (a result of the usage of the Super Emeralds OR the Master Emerald. Sonic 3&K) Archie: a much more powerful Super Sonic. I'm under the impression that your Chaos Sonic is suppose to be equivalent to Chaos Knuckles or suppose to be a reference to Scourge. Scourge is in this semi-super state that is the result of a botched Super Transformation. Super Goku/Golden Great Ape: Was this transformation achieved with Goku using the positive energy of the Chaos Emeralds or was it negative energy? If Super Goku used positive energy, this would negate Perfect Chaos' existence as Chaos Piccolo is a being of negative chaos energy. Super Goku's positive energy would purify Piccolo and strip him of his negative energy. This is what happened in Sonic Adventure between Super Sonic and Chaos. I'll argue that the powers of Amy and Tails should be swapped due to Tails being on the same adventures as Sonic via Sonic 2, Sonic 3, & Sonic Adventure, Tails is actively fighting power Eggman machines on his own. Besides those, pretty cool
2 years later but tbf Damon did say not to take stuff literally and he did point out Goku was Syphoning off of Chaos Piccolo's energy. Besides its not like Sonic has the power of Super Sonic he uses Chaos Sonic anyways so there's that.
That was an awesome episode, Damon. I gotta say, you literally perfected the combination of the DragonBall's King Piccolo Arc and Sonic Adventure in ways that even me and other fans couldn't even do. Though I hope you give Goku and the others a great character development after the next part. 1. Since Goku saw his great ape transformation, he needs some solace and motivation to at not only to master the Chaos Emeralds energy and his Saiyan potential, but to also control the power of his primal nature. 2. If Shadow is coming in the next part, I can him and Vegeta teaming up after their defeat against their new rivals. 3rd. Can you give them a gravity chamber for them and train with King Kai, please?
The dive were about to take into "most likely" sonic adventure 2, the three year time skip, the the 23 world tournament, and possibly, possibly the first few moments of z or a few more sonic games will be more than interesting to get in to.
Note that Shenron CAN grant the same wish more than once. It's specifically bringing people back from the dead that only works once (For example, when everyone killed by Freiza and his gang were wished back, those who died before like Krillin weren't included. Also, only two people at a time can use the Room of Spirit and Time (AKA the parabolic time chamber) due to it being able to produce enough food for two people per session.
“50 times boost, get it?” *shows SSJ Goku* 😂 The funny thing is the Chaos Emeralds turning into Super Emeralds is just 7x50(350) so Hyper is weaker than SSJ3(400)?
The scene of goku going super was so awesome for me! Not just because it was epic but because it might mean a super super sayain will be a thing which would be super cool
Just started binging this series today. And now im finally caught up! Im a lil bummed we didnt get an "open your heart" moment with Super sonic vs Perfect Piccolo, but chaos sonic and "super goku" was pretty interesting. 👍🏾
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Goku: "It's the Hyper Tonic Lion Tamer!"
Knuckles: *exasperated growl* "That's Hyperbolic Time Chamber!"
Goku: "That's what I said!"
Tikal: Goku?
Goku: Yeah?
*Tikal throws Goku off of Angel Island*
@@wolfherojohnson2766 I could see tfs doing a gag like this
@@StarKiller-jq2bu That's because they actually DID! It's when Mr.Popo throws him off the lookout after the umpteenth mispronounciation
Mighty and ray: your doing what sega won’t bother bringing us back 🥲
At least Big the cat is safe… right?
19:28 somewhere vegita is getting a chill up his spine and has no idea why
...What is this sorcery.... This crossover... I have never been so invested in one such as this! I love it and want more!
This works ENTIRELY too well.
I love it.
I’m really glad you liked it!
@@DamonWhatif I did the math for age as well Damon
I estimate about 2 years past plus the one in the time chamber.
If we take the sonic squad cannon age as the start of this timeline and say that goku and all dragon ball characters are start of dragon ball age youngest to oldest we have
Tails 11
Amy 15
Goku 15
Tien 19
Sonic 18
Knuckles 19
They are not as young as I thought
@@DamonWhatif I would like to know how long you wanted the time to take
It's honestly nice that Amy wasn't sidelined like Chi Chi or Bulma often were in Dragon Ball.
Or like she, sadly, has been in most modern games.
Yeah I’m really gonna try to not turn Amy into Chi-Chi the best I can lol
@@DamonWhatif yeah, you can give Amy ki weapons like Goku Black
@@DamonWhatif i would use here shikik powers to the fullest to give her something of her own.
To be honest Amy is a very annoying character I wouldn't mind if she was not in the games
@@goveberbuyit1221 I’m mean to be fair she mellowed out since the dark age games and has been characterized better both her classic and modern versions.
What will Super Goku be combined with Super Saiyan looks like I think it should just be super saiyan but with purple-eye combining the blue-eye of Super Saiyan and the red-eye of Super Sonic
It should be like Chaos Super Goku
I'd call it chaos sayain
@@sirnitrothebastard Nah, that would be a Cooler name for Goku if he went in Chaos Form.
@@fabriserra1227 alternatively we could chaos sayain if somehow goku uses negative chaos energy and goes full on rage mode(that'll probably never happen though)
@@sirnitrothebastard we are talking about an April fools level what-if, everything could happen, even Ultra or Hyper.
The king being King Acorn with the Archie version of the Chaotix is truly great.
I can't for the ultimate fight in this what if...
Burter vs Sonic!
The Shadow Arc is emotionally important to Eggman because his grandfather and cousin are involved. Both the grandfather and cousin dying by GUN.
Shadow, Maria, Gerald, and Ivo are all family and this should play a role in his villainy
If you want more drama, you can have Gerald Robotnik (Grandfather) change Maria (cousin) into a Hedgehog to save her life making Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik conflicted. It can also introduce the bio-engineering in future arcs.
I was so hyped for the Sonic Adventure adaptation/Chaos Piccolo arc, and I wasn't disappointed! This was so amazing and really worth it the wait! Nice that Tikal is still alive, and now I'm really curious to see how the story is going to continue, after this arc. And if Raditz is going to be like how he is in DB, then he's definetly screwed since everyone on Earth is now really powerful.
Well of course Tikal is alive. Knuckles needs someone to bang so that he can have kids in the later arcs.
I am shocked that Sonic unlocked Chaos Form and Goku transformed into Super Goku and later into Super Grade Ape.
I can't wait to see what will happen in part 7.
I question how 6 people could go into the Hyperbolic Time Chamber at once AND last 1 year, but considering Chaos Control can do pretty much anything, I think Tikal just made the group unlimited food to last the year.
I tried to mention that it was made up of Chaos magic, so this version of the Time Chamber can definitely hold more than 2 people, and the food will just refresh itself everyday to last everybody a year
Meh, Piccolo, Goten, Trunks, & Buu were all in there at once - Vegeta and Goku went in for a number of years at a time - The chamber really has no restrictions at this point. It's a bit........ Chaotic....
@@AndrewAce. Hyperbolic Plot Device Chamber
@@FlintandStone1 Indeed.
@@FlintandStone1 Imagine Hyper Form+SSJ, I would call it “Plot Armor”. Unless we get as far as Ultra Instinct. *THAT* would be *real “Plot Armor”.*
Dude, these videos are so well made that it actually inspired me to write again.
I just love how you mixed the Dragon Ball and Sonic plots so seemlessly together... It actually makes me feel like this deserves an actual legitimate adaptation officially!
Like I can visualize the scenes so perfectly in my head it's that good!
I’m really glad you enjoyed it so much! Super happy I could inspire you to start writing again! 🙏🏽
Another good job of blending together the Demon King Piccolo Saga with Sonic Adventure together and best part yet. 👍 Ah yes Power Levels I thought you did a pretty good job with it. 👍 My favorite part was Super Goku taking on Chaos Demon King Piccolo, but man Goku been able to tap into Chaos Energy & going Great Ape caught me of guard. Anyways another really good part, and looking forward to the next part soon.
I love this series man!!! Can't wait for Z and Super 😁
🙏🏽
@@DamonWhatif yo make it a season 2 or something!!!
@@___king___ He never said he wasn't or couldn't, so it's probably going to continue on as it is, no need to make it a season 2, unless Damon wants to call it that
Raditz is screwed
This story is so good, and you've seamlessly woven two very large parts of my childhood.
I’m really glad you enjoy it! These are two parts of my childhood too
I imagine that for the next saga the events of Sonic Adventure 2 will continue along with the 23rd martial arts tournament, where it is most likely that we will see a little bit of everything in said saga.
Nice Damon, nice, the time chamber got a good use this time since more people were in it, and Goku is even at Raditz level before he even comes, and Super Goku was a good touch to see, amy, Tails, are stronger in this too, can't wait when the Saiyan saga comes around and that will be great to see what happens.
Had a thought last night - I won't say it's 100% going to happen, but Sonic now exists in a world with UI...
This is really one of the best what ifs of anything I’ve ever watched and we haven’t even gotten to the 23rd world martial arts tournament yet
Vegeta when he sees the Shadow androids.
Vegeta looking at Trunks: My disappointment with you is immeasurable right now.
Trunks: *Dying on the inside
Yeah, SA2 definitely going to co-exist with Saiyan Saga at this rate. Nothing but sheer confidence in this. Love how you're keeping everything so absurdly true to it's source material. Nothing feels changed in a way where its drastically different to source! Round of APPLAUSE!
Can someone help a show name siren season 4 and put it on Hulu please
Ya that makes sense so many times in dragon balls they could have handled the situation a lot better with team work and a little brains
Can’t wait for goku to stack MUI with hyper form.
Or more likely Sonic
Impossible,UI can't be mixed with feelings,the chaos emeralds uses feelings,but ultra ego could be mixed with the chaos emeralds...... Only destructive feelings
I always thought that tien had a power level of 180 in the piccolo arc I also imagine that the boost of the time chamber would be bigger since they had an extra 4 training partners
I just based it off of some forums I saw
@@DamonWhatif it's ok bro but look at this if the story is already this good and only in og imagine how crazy it will be in z and super and please try making the last remaning sayains trun against frieza
anyway thank you for this awsome what if video man
Don't worry, bro. Like you said, they are a just a tool to assist in your narrative.
This is such a great video like always! The only problem is Tiem being 145 instead of 180 like its stated as daizenshuu. Regardless, I'm so happy you still make the best what if content imo
Well that went from 0 to over 9000 REEEEEAAAAL quick!!!
I'm so happy to see you doing what you're passionate about
Thank you!
I'm just imagining the inevitable redundancy of Super Super Saiyan Goku and beyond 🤣.
Good job, man. And don't fuss too much about power levels, just do what works narratively!
No, no, Super Saiyan Super Goku
@@helton3425 Super Goku God Super Super
@@AndrewAce. Super Saiyan God Blue Super Goku! 😂😂😂😂
@@georgeshaw4017 LMFAO!
Honestly, I'm enjoying this more than most of the Sonic games story lines. Really want someone to make a game featuring this crossover, would be so spic!
As a big fan of both series, I love this series so much! Keep up the good work!
Also, not even 2 minutes in and already In the Notepad is here XD
Thank you!
"How is he able to use chaos energy?"
Well you see Chaos Piccolo, you're not dealing with the average Saiyan warrior anymore!
I can't wait to see more of this I really want to see more this is so great I wonder how Sonic and Goku look like when they both grow up in this what if but the power levels I like it it's all right you would do great
Alright, everyone, who's making a actual animated series out of this?
That would be cool lmao
Nah i think is better in comic
You weren't kidding about this being a big one! I've got a few comments, so I'm going to go in order:
Eggman's demise sure was a shock! It was more surprising to see Mighty and the Chaotix, but after wondering what you had against Charmy and the slaughter continuing the Dragonball plan became clear.
On the subject of surprise character introductions, Max/Sally Acorn have *way* more potential than the Terrier! Still, with how many characters have already appeared, hopefully the story can stay balanced (at least give King Acorn a more relevant role if Sally gets one?)
4:00 It's no use? Was that intentional? Additionally at 5:20 and later you used Rosie again, but I guess mentioning it may be no use as well.
What's with Shenron not granting the same thing twice? This doesn't seem to be true in the main series outside of revival. Did you make it up to keep the story engaging? (On that topic, feel free to bump up later villains to be better challenges. A lot to work with here in terms of power!)
While not bad, the whole ending fight and victory felt... unearned. Again, there's a lot of different characters and forms to work with, but especially after giving Chaos and Super to Sonic and Goku, it was just too much. It's a bit like if all of the Super Saiyan forms were of near equal level, and the different characters all tried them one at a time until a power boost suddenly occured.
For what it's worth, let me clear something else up. If I stop commenting on these, it'll almost definitely *not* be because the story got worse. I'm in the process of finally getting SA2, and hope to enter it only remembering certain segments like most of what happens on the Ark. You did say the next part will be somewhat new for both franchises, but I may stay on the safe side and completely avoid anything that could be related to that story.
All in all, this remains one of your most creative works, and you're still doing great! No matter arc order/adaptation, it's always pretty cool. Keep on running!
I’m really glad you enjoyed! Shenron was confirmed in the early Saiyan saga to never be able to grant “the same wish twice”. Goku said that after Raditz took Gohan. So im taking that as the same of any wish can’t be granted. I completely understand the final right argument, as the chaos emeralds can definitely boost anybody in power, but that’s a crutch I have to deal with lol. Hope you enjoy your play through of SA2!
@@DamonWhatif 1. Oh, ok. 2. Fair enough? 3. Thanks! Spent over a year trying to get GameCube parts and a disc, to finally notice Steam Keys have been around for years.
The “can’t revive the same person twice” actually stems from the “can’t grant the same wish twice” rule. For example, you couldn’t wish your best friend back to life twice, but if you Mass revive a group of people that said friend was a part of, then that person could be revived twice because it’s a different wish.
@@wolfherojohnson2766 I remember the no wish twice thing now, but I don't mass revives from Shenron still not bring back people who died before? They said something about this in the Cell Saga before the tournament.
The Chaotix can play a role better than simple bodyguards, have them hired by Princess Sally to track down the Hooligans saving the heroes instead of Yamcha’s betrayal and the detectives bring the Hooligans to Sally and she gives them two options, prison for life or join the Chaotix and work for Sally, when they decide to join she will have them help people with their day to day lives pretty much be the butlers of Acorn Kingdom, sometimes their spy’s or detectives maybe bodyguards and help improve the environment, no one knows Sally hires them to avoid problems with the King, Sally fears her father will stop her plans in making the world a better place, just like that more people are important to the story!
Regarding this story it really shows just how the Chaos Emeralds are so powerful everybody going to get a boost in strength he’ll Raditz is going to be super easy but overall this was a great video man can’t wait to see more
I’m really enjoying this series! I’m glad my boy was finally able to use chaos energy 😁👍🏾
I wonder if we’re still gonna see Super Saiyan or if Chaos Goku will replace it 🤔
Wow! This is incredible stuff. Since the world knows the deeds of the team, this might effect things later down the line. I just hope you include how the world is effected by these events.
I guess it just always bugged me that such crazy things happened and everyone forgets and moves on. King Piccolo is like if Hitler had super powers. And there was video evidence! How do people forget that!?
Perhaps just them being idiots, except for some people like the Dog as King and the announcer guy at the tournament. Or plotholes
@@ShermanYeo Makes sense
Yo, that, is awesome! Hope to see more in Part 7 and Damn, Goku is gonna be guilty for a long while as he now knows why his Grandpa Gohan ded, and Chaos Sonic is cool, along with Super Oozaru Goku, and Maybe Piccolo can turn good due to him being a baby. owo
And ooooh boi, will Raditz and his Saiyan 'comrades' be dumbfounded when they see not only Goku being stronger than Raditz, Sonic and the rest of the gang are too. :3
So for universe 6 you have 2 options you can either have Scourge be Sonic’s universe 6 counterpart or you could have it be Blaze both are valid options though.
Blaze feels more appropriate since Scourge, frankly, is just edgelord sonic.
It’s Sonic.EXE
@@singletona082 yeah also we’d get a Sonic Rush storyline out of it.
Yo....
Why not both?
Holy moly those power levels. Radizt is going to be a joke when he shows up lmao. Man this what if is crazy but I love it and the integration of Sonic elements with DB mixes so well. Freaking Demon King Piccolo being almost as strong as Captain Ginyu is great.
35:26 Holy smokes there I am!
Yessir
Vegeta when he see Chaos Knuckles :
The power level is over 9000 !
🤣
Vegeta When He Sees Super Goku:
Oh Shit Kakarot Ain't Playing How Am I Gonna Beat Kakarot Now?
This series is so interesting
Jeez there's something about seeing the Sonic characters you grew up with no matter the eras dying that just breaks your heart man.... I'll finish this comment later.
Edit: My lord this what if is getting better and better funny how Sally showed up as I expected at the end for her to develop somewhat of a crush on Sonic. And those power levels, Raditz, Nappa, Vegeta, and the Frieza Force except Frieza wouldn't stand a chance if these characters kept up with their training and accessed the Chaos and Master Emeralds powers more.
Also can't wait to see how Piccolo and Gohan are implemented in this story when you get to the aftermath and onward.👍
Can't wait for the Saiyan Saga with Shadow in it. I wonder how they'll interact...
He is basically Vegeta nowadays anyhow...
@@CyanicCore Yeah. Sadly he's essentially Android Saga Vegeta where if they actually cared about his development in SA2, his self-titled game, and 06 (for what it's worth), he'd basically be characterized similarly to Super-era Vegeta...
But hopefully he won't be mischaracterized like that in this whatif.
I love this saga sense evan with all of our hero's training, after goku got the super form power up, caos picolo still sood as an nearly unstopable enemy.
This series is great. It actually inspired me to combine two of my favorites dragon ball and one piece
Have you seen some of the others?
@@CyanicCore what others?
@@ilovedragonball2435 I know of at least one from years ago, but it's not on youtube. I'll see if I can find a link...
@@CyanicCore I looked for one that combines dragon ball and one piece but I never found one. I found some where Goku and luffy meet but I want to do what Damon did here and combine the two universes
@@ilovedragonball2435 From start to end? Alright!
SHADOW ABOUT TO GO CRAZY
Ya never mad any f sense why everyone didn’t go into the chamber or why kaim didn’t bother to offer it to help with king piccolo
YOO SUPER GOKU?! Goddamn that gave me some chills
LET'S GO THIS IS FIRE OMG I LOVE THIS SO MUCB THIS IS THE DA BEST PLEASE KEEP DOING MORE THIS IS DOOO GOOF ONG IS GOOD
May I just say that I love the Idea of Super Goku? It’s just awesome! Not only that, But there are design choices made to differentiate Super Goku from
Super Saiyan Goku, as SSJ Goku has Blue Eyes, while Super Goku has red eyes like Super Sonic!!! All I can say about Super Goku is, In the words of Sonic from Aosth, Satam and Underground, “Way Past Cool!!!”
Tysm for continuing!
Np
22:47 He who understood understood!
This part was insane
Super Goku? HECK YEAH
Amy not being the Chi Chi/Sakura of the group? HECK YEAH
I somehow find Tien with Tails and Amy kinda adorable
i am so hype and excited to wait part 7 to come OUT!!!!
Roshi destroyed the moon at a PL of 140.
Tails is ridiculously buff at a starting PL of 115, and I love it.
The Raditz saga is gonna be weird with Goku being stronger than him.
Oh boy. Goku with control over the Great Ape…
This is gonna be fun.
Roshi can't destroy the moon in this What-If
Woohoo!! I predicted Shadow. Anyways, here's the powerscaling
Z-Fighters - Universe level+
Chaos Sonic and Chaos Knuckles - Universe level+
Super Goku - Universe level+
Super Oozaru Goku - Universe level+ (could give Frieza a run for his money)
I definitely liked that Amy was involved in these events. Hope that continues.
You brought Knuckles' Kaotix into this crossover! Noice!
I hope you have Goku keep his tail if not for the aesthetic, then, so Oozaru stays relevant, and we get Super Saiyan 4.
The emeralds makes modern sonic go from star level in base to in super form to be universal. That is a 16 quintillion times multiplier!
That’s pretty cool. Definitely nerfed it though so not everybody dies right away lol
@@DamonWhatif you could of just pull a dragon ball super and made them op in the time chamber
Modern Sonic is Large Planet level in this What-If
@@paperprince2953 you mean adventure sonic
you really should add the chaos shift forms (red=fire blue=water cyan=ice white = air
green=earth purple=dark yellow=electric)
btw:Love your vids.
edit: i was really expecting sonic to go dark form
Am I the only one who thought the emeralds would somehow unlock SSJ?
Doesn't seem to quite be SSJ, just looks like it, but it could be the equivalent for this Crossover.
Best what if I watched so far
Damon I think to make the saiyan saga interesting they could put chaos energy into the birth of the saiyans
My god. Raditz is gonna crap his pants instantly seeing all of these power levels on the planet and run away. Actually that might not be good, considering the scouter would show that to Vegeta Nappa and the Freeza force as well. Maybe even the Black Arms too if they're apart of the Frieza Force.
And my god this also escalates Cell to a Galactic threat instantly with all the more powerful DNA samples and Chaos energy. Same with Buu possibly absorbing the Emeralds. Actually it's funny that Cell will probably be more Mobian looking in this timeline too with all the extra people being apart of him.
However you twist this though I'll watch the entire way. Keep up the good work man. I'll watch it to the end.
The consequences are limitless
Yeah When Raditz's scouter reports those numbers Frieza would likely see this as a threat to his empire and go there to put a stop to it. Right after he goes to Namek to wish for immortality.
I can imagine Cell with the 9 original fighters with the added chaos form from piccolo with Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Shadow, Silver, and any other hero or villain in the sonic series causing in to get a very high power level. I also see him wiping the floor with Vegeta and Shadow and then saying "NOW I'M THE ULTIMATE LIFEFORM!"
I can possible see the same thing happening for Buu so yeah... These villains are going to be more dangerous than their cannon counterparts.
@@StarKiller-jq2bu and add on the fact that something’s may get triggered early through sheer necessity. The Dream Z era will be a time of great trial and hardship.
@@camero144 Indeed they will. You could say that their going to have *A BAD TIME* when DBZ rolls around.
@@StarKiller-jq2bu Hey bright side Goku and Sonic will welcome the challenge with a smile alongside the watchers. And more people to share a smile with
FINALLY home from work and able to watch
Edit: Okay finished the episode and WOW. This is probably my favorite episode of any What If you have done so far. The way you're blending Sonic and Dragon Ball so seamlessly is incredible
Thanks! 🙏🏽 I’m really trying to make it work lol
Loved this! I'd like to see what happens when they witness the natural, non Chaos Emeralds form of all Saiyans, the Super Saiyan. Imagine a Super Saiyan using Chaos Emeralds to go extra Super.
Glad to see I'm not the only person to have ever come up with the idea of the Chaos Kamehameha. Came up with it for a fanfiction I wrote many years ago, kinda cool to see it here, lol.
If you told me 6 years ago that I would love a Dragon Ball story, I would have laughed in your face over that. But here I am, finding this Dragon Ball story more interesting than some My Hero Academia stories.
I might be prideful, but I am also brutally honest when it comes to the things I like.
Wonder what gonna happen in the Frieza saga with Black doom if he hears about the dragon balls
This is good man👍 and the power level I actually see that is accurate oh and I I helped with the Chaos Emeralds in super form the multiplier I believe is thousand percent so you're welcome also chaos Sonic! And super goku! Your awesome damon
Any world where Sally Acorn is canon is a good world. Also this being a massive crossover with Dragon Ball works better then it have any right to.
This story is fantastic
Damn, this is best crossover that i ever seen with sonic and dragon ball! good job!
Thank you so much!
@@DamonWhatif You're welcome, i can't wait of what Shadow the Hedgehog and Piccolo could do in this neat crossover with Goku and Sonic as potential frenemies.
Omg this version of king piccolo is stronger than 2 great ape nappas
Another amazing video as always
Yo dude I bet you were going to do this anyway but I'm so glad you Read my idea and made it into a reality
Don't worry too much about power levels. This story has gone pretty well without thinking about these. Keep up the good work. This is awesome 😎👍
Regards to the Sonic gang part, there's a lot of issues I have with this that conflicts with established Sonic lore from both Game Canon and Archie Canon.
For an example, Sonic being powered up by the Master Emerald would result in either:
Games: Hyper Sonic (a result of the usage of the Super Emeralds OR the Master Emerald. Sonic 3&K)
Archie: a much more powerful Super Sonic.
I'm under the impression that your Chaos Sonic is suppose to be equivalent to Chaos Knuckles or suppose to be a reference to Scourge. Scourge is in this semi-super state that is the result of a botched Super Transformation.
Super Goku/Golden Great Ape:
Was this transformation achieved with Goku using the positive energy of the Chaos Emeralds or was it negative energy? If Super Goku used positive energy, this would negate Perfect Chaos' existence as Chaos Piccolo is a being of negative chaos energy. Super Goku's positive energy would purify Piccolo and strip him of his negative energy. This is what happened in Sonic Adventure between Super Sonic and Chaos.
I'll argue that the powers of Amy and Tails should be swapped due to Tails being on the same adventures as Sonic via Sonic 2, Sonic 3, & Sonic Adventure, Tails is actively fighting power Eggman machines on his own.
Besides those, pretty cool
2 years later but tbf Damon did say not to take stuff literally and he did point out Goku was Syphoning off of Chaos Piccolo's energy.
Besides its not like Sonic has the power of Super Sonic he uses Chaos Sonic anyways so there's that.
That was an awesome episode, Damon.
I gotta say, you literally perfected the combination of the DragonBall's King Piccolo Arc and Sonic Adventure in ways that even me and other fans couldn't even do.
Though I hope you give Goku and the others a great character development after the next part.
1. Since Goku saw his great ape transformation, he needs some solace and motivation to at not only to master the Chaos Emeralds energy and his Saiyan potential, but to also control the power of his primal nature.
2. If Shadow is coming in the next part, I can him and Vegeta teaming up after their defeat against their new rivals.
3rd. Can you give them a gravity chamber for them and train with King Kai, please?
20:29 Best Background Music
The dive were about to take into "most likely" sonic adventure 2, the three year time skip, the the 23 world tournament, and possibly, possibly the first few moments of z or a few more sonic games will be more than interesting to get in to.
I feel Goku turning super through the emeralds will have some consequences later on, maybe an earlier grasp towards SSJ?
Never thought sonic and goku would be good in the same place but this guy change mine mind
Damn, that's a long part, I'm gonna to enjoy it.
If think runs through the tournament of power this will be the longest and greatest dbz what if ever
I was joking lol this what if is good! Keep up the good work and oh I hope goku still gets super saiyan and maybe mixes it with super
Where was chicha did he die here to
Note that Shenron CAN grant the same wish more than once. It's specifically bringing people back from the dead that only works once (For example, when everyone killed by Freiza and his gang were wished back, those who died before like Krillin weren't included. Also, only two people at a time can use the Room of Spirit and Time (AKA the parabolic time chamber) due to it being able to produce enough food for two people per session.
I agree with the DB one, but nah multiple people can enter the chamber if they just bring in some extra food lol
“50 times boost, get it?”
*shows SSJ Goku* 😂
The funny thing is the Chaos Emeralds turning into Super Emeralds is just 7x50(350) so Hyper is weaker than SSJ3(400)?
The scene of goku going super was so awesome for me! Not just because it was epic but because it might mean a super super sayain will be a thing which would be super cool
Oh I love the Chaotics
I’m glad! Also I’m sorry for what I did to them lmao
@@DamonWhatif tbh I expected it lol
I want the next episode NOW
Can’t do it right now but eventually
Jesus, Chaos Knuckles is almost twice as strong and Zarbon and Dodoria put together? Raditz is going to be SO screwed.
Just started binging this series today. And now im finally caught up!
Im a lil bummed we didnt get an "open your heart" moment with Super sonic vs Perfect Piccolo, but chaos sonic and "super goku" was pretty interesting. 👍🏾