Just like most people here they are just interested in the hobby. If they could afford to buy a cpu thats only marginally better than its 350-400$ version for 700-850$ they probably don't have time to watch this video and already own 13900KS 4090
@@Tirth-Patel lol what are you talking about, I watch benchmark videos on hardware I own all the time, helps me gauge the performance of my own system
@@Jatinnnnnnnnn More like 18% at worst, and if we're talking about the price then you can step down to a Ryzen 7 7800x3D for virtually the same performance at a lower price. Even better efficiency there, and still comparable.
@@firkinflamer8604 Yeah LMAO, the 7950X3D compared to a 13900k isn't a fair comparison at all since the the 7900X3D and 7800X3D are what the majority of gamers will buy and they're much better prices too. Not really sure why the made a 7950X3D. The Intel CPUs do use a stupid amount of power and get very hot
@@ovaisazeem369 the 7800x3d has 8 cores. The v cache here can be used by all 8 cores and it can boost higher on the cores that ise vcache... the 16 core can only access vchache with 8 of its cores and some programms dont use that effective. Watch the Hardware unboxed Video. They shut off 8 cores on the 7950x3d and it performed better in games
I dont think there’s a difference in v cache size between the 7800x3d and the 7950x3d. Not sure about the 7900x3d though because it’s a 6+6 core. But in gaming, more than 8 cores dont really make a difference. And the 7800x3d should be the same as a 7950x3d with the 8 normal cores turned off. (And only the 8 v cache cores on.)
@@laszlozsurka8991yea thanks i forgot to answer why the 7800x3d could be better. Im sure these guys will figure out the prioritization issues eventually
When game companies optimize for large cache sizes the difference can increase over time. It'll be interesting to see what intel is coming up with to counter AMDs flagship cpu.
@@iikatinggangsengii2471 at 600-900W? Pretty much, since they've delayed 3nm manufacturing.. They should include a heat pump so that we can heat or cool our house with the produced energy.
@@iikatinggangsengii2471 I wouldn't be surprised to see a bit of clock speed stagnation or regression but an IPC gain, bonus if they can cram in more cache but their chips are already on the boarder of burning up without manually tweaking the voltage.
Cool to see the cpu delivering more fps consuming less. What is baffling is to see Hogwards Legacy making 70+ fps on the top hardware possible with a 4090, and still that much CPU bound.
It's really terribly optimised for PC, somehow on ps5 it's working just fine, while ps5 is something like a 5700xt with 5800x more less as processing power goes. They put all their time to make it polished on ps5, on PC they kinda went with the approach to just work on high end. A little bit sad, but to be fair they make most money off consoles
If you play with an AMD gpu you get much better performance. 7900 xtx outperforms the 4090 aside from raytracing in HL. My 6950xt gets 90-120 fps in 1440p all through hogsmeade with a 7950x although I play in linux using proton so not exactly apples to apples.
DLSS3 does create a different story--I get 90-120 fps with a 4090 in 3440x1440p with DLSS3 and ray tracing on. But, yeah, it is quite the hog of resources.
@@admk2500 the silicon and overall quality of the 7800x3d won't be as good as the 7950x3d ,also to try to overclock the 7800x3d is risky and can easily kill a 3d CPU. Also the 7950x3d has another 8 cores with higher clocks to take care of other programs or apps running st the same time of gaming and if needed it can use those cores to boost gaming performance once the drivers mature more. The 7800x3d only has 8 cores for gaming and anything else. It will struggle if you have other apps or programs running and it's gaming performance is limited because it doesn't have extra cores to boost it like the 7950x3d. So it is good for gaming but 7950x3d is still the AMD flagship and gaming king. Not the 7800x3d. Whoever thinks 7800x3d is better than the 7950x3d for lower price is just fooling himself or herself
There are obviously big problems in this video - even in the very first game there is a huge difference with other reviews. 7950X3D gives an average of 30-40% more fps than 13900K (in Microsoft Flight Simulator), and here are a couple of percent.
People keep commenting on the TDP, yet people who spend $500-$700 dollars on a CPU aren't going to be bothered about a lightbulbs difference in power consumption. You think it's relevant to heat in the system? Rewatch the video. If a small difference in wattage is a deal breaker for you, maybe these chips aren't for you.
@@rkusuma6852 true, im pretty impressed by how intel is able to compete with amd with a worse transistor architeture, similar to how amd is able to beat intel in terms of efficiency and temp
now I want to see the comparison against the 13900ks. Also, considering AMD has made 7950x3d and 7900x3d, I think Intel should start making 13800ks or 13700ks as well
From what I've seen most games have troubles optimizing with double ccd from ryzen, actually disabling one of the ccds is beneficial for gaming appareantly. The 7800x3d will probably be the king for it's price, but we will see
@@lexavlogs7149 thats not really an argument though because most chips can be undervolted pretty heavily nowadays. We’d have to look at an undervolted 7950x3d and a 13900ks to really see whats what, but even then we’d just be comparing silicon quality
True! If I care more about the efficiency/longevity and temperatures of the CPU, the 7000X3D is a go-to. Intel, however, has great OC potential and great overall performance. It's a trade between performance and efficiency.
I wonder if thats why the numbers here are slightly lower than Pauls hw/gn/hub. Did a quick check and only paul had the test specs easily accessible and he used 6000 cl30. Amd is usually latency sensitive. Even zen3 x3d still sees gains from it
@@cheesyriceo4 "Even zen3 x3d still sees gains from it" Not really at least nothing note worthy, 5800x3d fully tuned gains only ~4% of performance going from 3200mt/s cl16 to 3733mt/s cl14. While r5 5600 gets ~20%. Other v cache chips will show similar gains.
@@h1tzzYT sorry, i thought by me saying ‘“even” the zen3d sees gains’ implied i knew its not as much as normal ryzen. You havent really refuted what i said though. Unless you think “slightly” and few percent are different. Btw do u have a source for zen4 3d scaling the same as zen3d?
@@h1tzzYT btw it can be more than 4% if we’re talking min fps via tighter subtimings Edit: ehh ill take that back. Its been awhile since i looked that up so i could be wrong. But i do remember seeing meaningful min fps boosts with tuning that i wasnt down to grind for
Hi, I have an RTX 4090 Gamerock OC and a 7950X3D with BIOS settings set to prefer cache and PBO, additionally tuned RAM at 6000MHz CL28. I checked the FPS only in Forza, and precisely at the same high settings you presented in the video, the processor generates an average of 304fps for you, while for me, it's averaging 380-400fps. This is without frame generator; with it, there are around 480fps. I think you should conduct tests on a better-tuned Ryzen setup, and additionally on an Intel system with higher RAM clock speeds, like 7000-7200MHz. This is practically achievable for every unit, so that comparative tests truly make sense. It would provide a better verification of what works best for us.
Testing at 1080p is pointless people who buy these chips aren't playing at 1080p I don't get why we're seeing this resolution. We wanna see the difference where it matters
For CPU tests, 1080p is already enough to see the most differences, otherwise its a GPU bound scenarios, small to no difference at all. but including 1440p & 2160p would be better. It took a lot of work to do.
as far as i read this is only while gaming, therefore when you often use that PC for browsing, office or youtube/netflix more than gaming, then intel wins the "less power consumption". might only be of interest for ppl who have their PC turned on all day, but still a thing to consider
Do another video comparison between both but this time with only the 3D V cache CCD enable in BIOS I saw benchmarks of games with this config with massive gains
I would second that with use 7200MT memory on the Intel chip so everyone can see both chips at their best. The cost difference is about $100-$150 USD to step up from a DDR5 6000 kit to just purchasing the 7200 kit.
While it is the fastest consumer cpu, its twice as costly and the 13900k and there isn't really any reason to buy one. You will be much better off with a 7950x3d or even a 13900k
Whoever still using "omg ~20-50W difference while gaming" as a major factor for these cpus, never actually owned any of them and they are not the targeted consumer base. What actually matters in ultra high end: 1. performance 2. (optional) Can i cool it with nhd15/240mm AIO? (and the answer is yes to 100% of cases)
$100 more and still losing in most games...nice work amd😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 and in any case the 7950x3d should be compared with the 13900ks, not with a 13900k
x3D is a great option for small form factor builds. however, if you already have a 13700k etc and 1000w power supply...id say the price of these new Ryzen chips just isn't worth it. Only one that will make sense is the 7800x3d when that comes out.
you simply cant. The way the game is day 1 wont change with a million updates. Heck a 3060 and i3 10th gen would run 15 fps lower at the same 1080p ultra settings and save you over $1500 usd. Game companies are all trash and that benchmark proves it right there to never buy high end products its a huge waste of money.
Waiting patiently for the 7800X3D vs 5800X3D. I wanna see if it's worth the upgrade. I'm really loving the 5800X3D with my RTX4090!! But of course I am cpu bottlenecked😖
@Zelara right now I have a 1440p 144Hz monitor. Will probably get a 4K on the future when they're more reasonably priced! Which is funny since I bought a 4090🤣🤣🤣
That's one of the things to account for, for a person looking to invest in either platform. There is eventually going to be something better, and one day what you are about to buy won't be good enough. When that day comes, there going to be something better available on AM5. Where 1st - 2nd gen Ryzen no longer hold up, there is the 5800X3D/5950X, at discounted prices as a drop in upgrade.
@@TheBURBAN111 I was making fun of the first comment that said the i9 13900k was "no slouch". That is certainly an understantement for the fastest Intel CPU available.
average of 50 watts less power consumption less power consumption means less cooling requirements and sometimes it beats the i9 with a big fps margin AMD wins gaming this time
Plus Intel is the best all around chip. Those amd X3D chips are geared toward gaming and start to show their setbacks when you start doing anything productive.
You aren’t using the 13900ks to its maximum whilst you are for the 7950X3D due to using 6,000MHz RAM for both. The 7000 Series’ sweet spot and pm max for RAM is 6,000 Whilst the 13th Gen is 7,200
The Ryzen 7 7800x 3D it's rumored to be even better because of the 3D V cache in one CCD die with 8 cores so that the windows or games doesn't need to keep transitioning to the cores that doesn't 3D wich adds more latency like the R9 7950X 3D
Its stupid that literary every reviewer test the x3d cpus on 1080p and say "to make a load on the cpu" *then put a RTX 4090* and the res is 1080p it doesn't make a sense anyone who have a rtx 4090 and use something could brain will put the res on 4k or even 8k and the performance gab between the ryzen 9 x3d and the i9 13900k is 5% at the best Scenario at 4k So for the gaming with rtx 4090 i recommend going for ryzen 5 7600x or the i5 13600k (Ryzen 5 better choice and has a new platform but the i5 beats at the multi core test so the choice is yours)
Can anyone explain what’s up with hogwarts legacy? Is it just poorly optimized? Only 80fps on a 7950x3d and 4090?? I know it’s still pretty new but damn
Efficiency is nice but AM5 boards price is just insane at the moment. Maybe it's regional thing but I can't find any affordable mid-high boards for these chips. While with 1700, I can still buy a very good Z690 or a decent Z790 for a way lower price than X670, hell even B650 is expensive.
@@xdxd6087ts more than just the electricity from the outlet. A/C is expensive. Plus the 13900k/s needs a few more supporting parts if you want to overclock it faster than a 7950x3d. Like at least a midrange z690 board with good vrm, >7800mt ram, bigger psu, 420mm aio and maybe a new case that can fit one. Then play silicon lottery and hope to get a CPU that can hit 8000mt. Or you can just get the X3D with some cheaper midrange parts and call it a day.
@@cheesyriceo4 i guess but overclockers will prefer the 13900k i bought the kf with z690 aorus ultra and 360mm aio and ive got it up to 5.7ghz all core at 1.39v power aint a issue for me im on solar so basically infinite
@@xdxd6087 nice. I wish i had solar, but for my usage its not worth it yet. But why have a $350 board and only oc to 5.7? What about memory oc? From what ive seen, a lot of gains can come from mem oc on raptor lake Edit: ive seen the gains be like over half* from mem oc alone if you have a cpu + ram thats stable at >8000mt
for people who says that the Ryzen 7 7800x3D or (ryzen 9 7950x3d) is the fastest gaming cpu on the world its only at the games that use the 3D cache (some games don't use the 3D cache and you will get worse performance ) and If any one built the fastest gaming pc he will 100% play at 4K or even 8K not 1080p like the all paid reviews and don't be idiot and say "the cpu should be tested on 1080p to make a load on the cpu" because it doesn't make a sense at all and the ryzen 7 7800x3D in multi core performance has a whole 60% decease compared to a cpu at the same price (ryzen 9 7900x)and a only 5% increase on gaming performance at 4k in the best Scenario so i recommend go for the ryzen 9 7900x at the same price you will get more 60% in multi core and only lose 5% in the gaming performance (at a real Scenario (4k)) in the worst And the thing that make the x3d cpus even worse that some games doesn't need that much 3d cache so you will lose amount of performance
LOL!!! Some of you are comparing power efficiency and price in a TOP OF THE LINE CPU...oh my. Pick whichever one you are a fan of and you can't go wrong.
:o incredibru, but it kills me to know that we are experimenting with new tech beta testing... a 5k system for random game crashes, crushes me everytime to know that... im more likely to suffer the steam deck then to get a rig like that.... im hoping for something like a 6700 xt system in the future but dont like the idea of continiously buy expensive pc rigs, and im getting older too, so maybe something a little more down to earth, maybe a 1k pc plus a new qd oled or like monitor :) i'll be thinking about this for ages to come.
These v-cache chips are like the 7900xtx for me. They had to be much better than the competition to shake things up but the difference is too small on average to matter
Wait for the 8 core one. I think the 16 core will be the worst version. But look at the power usage, now subtract 8 cores from that. I think it'll be pretty impressive, the 16 core version doesn't really make sense in my opinion.
I dont think its best to buy X3D based on averages though. While there are games that run amazing with v cache, there’s also ones that barely give an uplift. Its best to look at the specific games you play and decide from there. But there’s also the argument for power consumption and platform support if you want the option to upgrade CPUs again in a year or two. All depends whats important to you
13900KS is at same price as 7950X3D and at that point is better on 90% of games and everytime on multitasking. Yes, Intel has like 50%-2x times more consmption, but when you are using a RTX 4090 and your PC uses 700-800W, that don’t care. I prefer Intel… It’s better for me
I'm making a new all AMD build since I spent way too much time and money on Nvidia in my younger years, and I am salivating over the 7950x3d. It's just so damn beautiful and efficient. Can't wait to finish my build
Overhall I could say they are paired. Except for Horizon, which I think demands a look and explanation why ryzen was so ahead on that specific game. Anyone?
Userbenchmark: "dont trust influencer who picks certain titles to showcase amd new cpu. It's slower than the 2nd gen intel" Me: i think id rather trust a youtuber than a corporate shell
Also the efficiency is insane, this is not a very big leap from the no x3d ryzen chips. Kind of dissapointed honestly. Not saying these aren't beasts tho!
Bro the 3d series processors have good processing speed and they can perform better in cpu centric games and softwares but the intel processors make a good combination with the gpu and helps in gpu centric games! That's my opinion what's yours? (Reply)
@@MendAmar The 13900KS clocks.5.7-5.8 on most cores and 6ghz on 2. out the box. I've gamed on the non KS... 5.4 steady was the max. With xmp and some overclock it reached 5.6.
Looking at the price and how evenly good they are at certain games. Intel is the clear winner for me. $100 more can get you a decent RAM to maximize the CPU performance.
I'm not a Intel or AMD fanboy, it's too childish to fight about that stuff, between 7950X3D and 13900K, I prefer 13900K because of being $150 cheaper and in average there isn't that big difference with 7950X, but i think the 7800X3D is the best for gaming, $100 cheaper than 13900k, low power consumption and the same FPS.
The only problem I have with this test is its not a true show of the 13900K. If you unlock the power restrictions and overclock the 13900K to 5.8-5.9 (almost all of them can do) It will probably close that gap.
I'm on Team AMD, I mean look at that TDP, same performance as Intel i9 13900K but lower TDP, and slightly better performance on some games, noice AMD 👍🏿👍🏻
This is great to see, it has been so long since AMD's high-end CPU could beat Intel's high-end CPU in gaming. This is something I haven't recalled seeing ever since the 2600k came out
I'm sorry, WHAT? You're running this off a 850W PSU? I thought you needed at least a 1000W cause I thought I saw something that max load+OC could reach like 800W alone
7950X3D Sin duda el mejor procesador para gaming del mundo, mas fps con menor consumo.... pero ahora mi duda es mas grande con el rendimiento que dara el 7800X3D!!!!! Madre mia AMD
No soy fan de Intel o AMD, pero entre el 13900k y 7950X3D, me quedo con el i9 ya que rinde casi igual y es mucho mas barato, si hablamos de un procesador que este al nivel del 13900k y que consuma aun menos con los mismos FPS y mas barato, me gusta mas el 7800X3D.
mucho mejor que cualquier cagada sobrevalorada de intel actualmente, solo fijate en los juegos mal optimizados es donde mas brilla amd por su cache 3d, en horizon le saca 50 FPS al intel JAJA y consume mucho menos intel en vez de ir adelante va atrasandose , la innovacion realmente la esta haciendo amd consumiendo menos watts
@@Mohanad204 I'd take AMD for my productivity tasks anyday over intel. Not much of a gamer but rendering and game engine work is a breeze on my 7950X3D
is it just me or are CPU's getting stagnant? Not really seeing a performance jump here. Sad. The 5800x3d is neck and neck with the 13900k. AMD doesn't believe in competition anymore I guess. Just putting out garbage.
@@GioCTRL RAM speed doesn't matter. They did testing with 7200mhz and the x3d chip was still slapping cheeks. So 400mhz more would not matter. what matters is the timmings on the dimms.
7950X3D is in a really bad spot because with it's $700 it makes it a bad value if you just want gaming performance since the 7800X3D is gonna achieve the same for a little over half the price and if you want gaming and productivity a 13900K is a better value since it's only $589 and not to mention the 13900K smokes the 7950X3D at productive workloads.
13900K "smokes" the 7950X3D in productivity? Umm sorry where did you get such a result from? Last time I checked the 13900K pulling 250W still can't beat the 7950X3D sipping 150W in long Blender renders (The 7950X being even a couple of % faster).
The ryzen 9 7950x3d smokes the i9 13900k in productivity except in Adobe where quicksync comes into play, even if it is 5% slower than the vanilla ryzen 9 7950x in productivity, not to mention that the ryzen 9 7950x3d consumes half the power of the i9 13900k in productivity. But both i9 13900k and ryzen 9 7950x are expensive anyway and not worth it imo, if i had to choose though between these two, i would easily pick the Ryzen 9 part because it has 16 actual P cores instead of only 8 P cores from Intel than you can get them from i7 13700k anyways, plus the longevity of the AM5 platform.
Yes also you can tune it to 125w for workloads or 60w in games and lose 30% and 5% respectively or a 13900ks on 150w with the performance of a 13900k at 200w
Games :
Microsoft Flight Simulator - 0:21 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesMFS20
Hogwarts Legacy - 1:22 - gvo.deals/TG3HogwartsLegacy
CoD Warfare 2.0 - 2:29
CYBERPUNK 2077 - 3:27 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesCP2077
Horizon Zero Dawn - 4:50 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesH0D
Hitman 3 - 6:02 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesHitman3
God of War - 7:07 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesGoWPC
Forza Horizon 5 - 8:18 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesForza5
Spider-Man - 9:26 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesSpiderManPC
The Witcher 3 - 10:21 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesWitcher
System:
Windows 11
Ryzen 9 7950X3D - bit.ly/41wwPIV
Gigabyte X670E AORUS MASTER - bit.ly/3BRDIIG
Core i9-13900K - bit.ly/3SgY3xf
ASUS ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming - bit.ly/3scEZpc
CPU Cooler - be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 - bit.ly/35G5atV
GeForce RTX 4090 24GB - bit.ly/3CSaMCj
G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB 32GB DDR5 6000MHz CL38
SSD - 2xSAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB - bit.ly/2NmWeQe
Power Supply CORSAIR RM850i 850W - bit.ly/3i2VoGI
Please include Dead Space Remake in future list.
*🌟 Please add PUBG PC while testing 7900x3D* & _upcoming 7800x3D._
🌳 I request.
thanks for sharing!
just wanted to ask, do you achieve those temps with acceptable fan noise or are they blowing like 100% for bench purpose?
In 1440p test please
@@nichronos are you sh*t-eater?
Let’s watch another video about stuff i can’t afford.
cry about it...oh wait
These replies are cringe asf...
Just like most people here they are just interested in the hobby.
If they could afford to buy a cpu thats only marginally better than its 350-400$ version for 700-850$ they probably don't have time to watch this video and already own 13900KS 4090
@@Tirth-Patel i got a high end rig and still watch every benchmark vid 😅😂 its still interesting imo
@@Tirth-Patel lol what are you talking about, I watch benchmark videos on hardware I own all the time, helps me gauge the performance of my own system
For me the most incredible thing, besides the high fps, is the incredible low power consumption of 7950x3d.
13 WATTS less xD calling it "Incredible" lmao...13900k still the King
@@S.V.23 intel fanboy losser haha
@@S.V.23 How does it still the king ?
@@S.V.23 U dont know anything
@@S.V.23 less power more performance? Still 7950X3D is king
Its funny how the best CPUs in the market paired with the best GPU can barely get above 60 frames on Hogwarts Legacy at full HD
this game is just sooo bad optimized thats why
Hogwarts was testing with rt ultra. And RT is in this Game Bad optimized
@@DieChaosBoys1 without rt in some zones there are low fps too
Yeah and GPU is running like 55%.
Denuvo limits it
I love how fierce the competition has gotten. This is marvelous for the consumer.
If only the prices were that competitive ...
@@scywowyea for the ryzen 5 and intel i5 the prices are competitive
the efficiency of x3d is incredible 🔥
@@Jatinnnnnnnnn More like 18% at worst, and if we're talking about the price then you can step down to a Ryzen 7 7800x3D for virtually the same performance at a lower price. Even better efficiency there, and still comparable.
and 10-15+ more temps....
@@Jatinnnnnnnnn But temperatures are the sames, sometimes even higher, so not so efficent...
Its only 30W different 🤣🤣🤣🤣 its gonna save you like 1 cent
@@firkinflamer8604 Yeah LMAO, the 7950X3D compared to a 13900k isn't a fair comparison at all since the the 7900X3D and 7800X3D are what the majority of gamers will buy and they're much better prices too. Not really sure why the made a 7950X3D. The Intel CPUs do use a stupid amount of power and get very hot
Great display considering the power consumption difference, 7800X3D should be even better and somewhat more afforadable.
true
why would the 7800x3d be better if has less cores 16 vs 12?
@@ovaisazeem369 the 7800x3d has 8 cores. The v cache here can be used by all 8 cores and it can boost higher on the cores that ise vcache... the 16 core can only access vchache with 8 of its cores and some programms dont use that effective. Watch the Hardware unboxed Video. They shut off 8 cores on the 7950x3d and it performed better in games
I dont think there’s a difference in v cache size between the 7800x3d and the 7950x3d. Not sure about the 7900x3d though because it’s a 6+6 core.
But in gaming, more than 8 cores dont really make a difference. And the 7800x3d should be the same as a 7950x3d with the 8 normal cores turned off. (And only the 8 v cache cores on.)
@@laszlozsurka8991yea thanks i forgot to answer why the 7800x3d could be better. Im sure these guys will figure out the prioritization issues eventually
When game companies optimize for large cache sizes the difference can increase over time. It'll be interesting to see what intel is coming up with to counter AMDs flagship cpu.
most likely 6-7 ghz 14 gen
@@iikatinggangsengii2471 at 600-900W? Pretty much, since they've delayed 3nm manufacturing.. They should include a heat pump so that we can heat or cool our house with the produced energy.
who knows, Intel might reintroduce their old L4 Cache from i7 5775c
@@iikatinggangsengii2471 I wouldn't be surprised to see a bit of clock speed stagnation or regression but an IPC gain, bonus if they can cram in more cache but their chips are already on the boarder of burning up without manually tweaking the voltage.
Nah, devs will not spend any extra effort on CPUs that only a few have. Most people will go with intel xx400 or AMD x600 CPUs.
Cool to see the cpu delivering more fps consuming less. What is baffling is to see Hogwards Legacy making 70+ fps on the top hardware possible with a 4090, and still that much CPU bound.
Very bad optimisation on that game...
It's 1080p ffs
It's really terribly optimised for PC, somehow on ps5 it's working just fine, while ps5 is something like a 5700xt with 5800x more less as processing power goes. They put all their time to make it polished on ps5, on PC they kinda went with the approach to just work on high end. A little bit sad, but to be fair they make most money off consoles
If you play with an AMD gpu you get much better performance. 7900 xtx outperforms the 4090 aside from raytracing in HL. My 6950xt gets 90-120 fps in 1440p all through hogsmeade with a 7950x although I play in linux using proton so not exactly apples to apples.
DLSS3 does create a different story--I get 90-120 fps with a 4090 in 3440x1440p with DLSS3 and ray tracing on. But, yeah, it is quite the hog of resources.
2:03. Hogwarts legacy has to hire indie devs like the ones from Atomic Heart because the optimization is garbage.
atomic heart has also garbage optimization
@@h1tzzYT How?
I haven't watched any CPU not 100% loading the graphics card.
Forget about the 7950X3D for gaming, 7800X3D is what you should watch out for
Why
@@unbekannt2898 cheaper price and same performance because of how the cache is only on one CCX..
@@admk2500 7950x3d has more performance than 7800x3d
@@AegisDynamics it will only be because of the clock speed difference. but I'm sure you will be able to kind of Overlock just not in the same way.
@@admk2500 the silicon and overall quality of the 7800x3d won't be as good as the 7950x3d ,also to try to overclock the 7800x3d is risky and can easily kill a 3d CPU. Also the 7950x3d has another 8 cores with higher clocks to take care of other programs or apps running st the same time of gaming and if needed it can use those cores to boost gaming performance once the drivers mature more. The 7800x3d only has 8 cores for gaming and anything else. It will struggle if you have other apps or programs running and it's gaming performance is limited because it doesn't have extra cores to boost it like the 7950x3d. So it is good for gaming but 7950x3d is still the AMD flagship and gaming king. Not the 7800x3d. Whoever thinks 7800x3d is better than the 7950x3d for lower price is just fooling himself or herself
Ryzen 9 10950x3d RTX 6090 - Hogwarts Legacy still 80 fps :D
Nice vid thank you cant wait for the 7800x3d
There are obviously big problems in this video - even in the very first game there is a huge difference with other reviews. 7950X3D gives an average of 30-40% more fps than 13900K (in Microsoft Flight Simulator), and here are a couple of percent.
10950x3d doesn't exist
@@johnpreston8621 You live in a dimension parallel to ours, right? I don't know where the hell you get those differences HAHAHAHA
@@johnpreston8621 no it doesn't what kind of fake videos are you watching
@@xTurtleOW Did someone steal your breakfast, schoolboy?:)) Tom's Hardware is far from fake for those who are at least 15 years old:))
People keep commenting on the TDP, yet people who spend $500-$700 dollars on a CPU aren't going to be bothered about a lightbulbs difference in power consumption. You think it's relevant to heat in the system? Rewatch the video.
If a small difference in wattage is a deal breaker for you, maybe these chips aren't for you.
Alone because of the efficiency I'd take of course the 7950X3D but I'm too happy with my 5800X3D
20 watts doesn't really make a differwnce when gpus are pulling 200-300 watts
7800X3D is coming, 5800X3D is like MEH
@@michajanicki6860 No! 5800X3D is like "Yeah, brother, I love you! That's my boy, Superman!"
@@Hiki_Ismo 20 watts wouldn't make a difference but there are over 100 watts...
@@Hiki_Ismo 20 watt could change how viable a CPU is in small form factor builds.
I think top of the line should be compared with top of the line 13900ks vs 7950x3d
Yes I also agree with you
What's the difference between KS and K?
@@osman505 the S stands for Scam
you like fake videos ?! this channel videos not real .
@@osman505 it's hotter
13900KS: "You forgot about me mate".
Even you still lose
@@robertopazsoldan9641 No
13900KS is only 2% faster than the 13900K so it still loses against the 7950X3D.
@@laszlozsurka8991 about 4% do maths also ram boost 6% more
@@laszlozsurka8991 yes according to pro amd benchmarkers, amd is faster
how 13900k fasters 7950x3d bravo intel
Doing all this at less 100w in almost all games is crazy
How are you so deluded and brain dead at the same time it's literally 5 watts
well considering that intel is still on 10 nm and amd is already at 5 nm, It is perfectly normal as expected
@@rkusuma6852
@@rkusuma6852 true, im pretty impressed by how intel is able to compete with amd with a worse transistor architeture, similar to how amd is able to beat intel in terms of efficiency and temp
Me and my 13900KS watching those poor guys in competition 😊
now I want to see the comparison against the 13900ks. Also, considering AMD has made 7950x3d and 7900x3d, I think Intel should start making 13800ks or 13700ks as well
Eqs
I had 7900x ... best OC what i voud make was 5.5ghz.
I have now 13900kf and it stay in 6.2ghz .
@@pet1967 intel is better and runs more stable and most games are optimized for intel
@@Austrium1483 yea but consumption is crazy ... without a proper cooling it runs so hot
@@pet1967 that processor never goes to 6.2 ghz 😅
From what I've seen most games have troubles optimizing with double ccd from ryzen, actually disabling one of the ccds is beneficial for gaming appareantly. The 7800x3d will probably be the king for it's price, but we will see
Yes, this is about AMD when you need to disable something, update the BIOS there and generally change the PC.
8C for 450$, madness
@@mastroitek shut up💀
R9 same or better performance than the i9 but at the same time consuming 30% less power? Thats a winner.
Look der8uider you can tune the 13900k with almost the efficiency of the 7950x or the 13900ks even more efficient
@@lexavlogs7149 true you can undervolt the chip but lose performance and AMD is already efficient so that would be stupid
@@lexavlogs7149 thats not really an argument though because most chips can be undervolted pretty heavily nowadays. We’d have to look at an undervolted 7950x3d and a 13900ks to really see whats what, but even then we’d just be comparing silicon quality
True! If I care more about the efficiency/longevity and temperatures of the CPU, the 7000X3D is a go-to. Intel, however, has great OC potential and great overall performance. It's a trade between performance and efficiency.
Price...
Thanks for the comparison. Too bad CL38 memory was used. Should've been CL30.
I mean 6000MHz at CL38 is 12.66 nanoseconds.
CL30 at 6000MHZ is 10.0 Nanoseconds
I wonder if thats why the numbers here are slightly lower than Pauls hw/gn/hub. Did a quick check and only paul had the test specs easily accessible and he used 6000 cl30.
Amd is usually latency sensitive. Even zen3 x3d still sees gains from it
@@cheesyriceo4 "Even zen3 x3d still sees gains from it"
Not really at least nothing note worthy, 5800x3d fully tuned gains only ~4% of performance going from 3200mt/s cl16 to 3733mt/s cl14. While r5 5600 gets ~20%. Other v cache chips will show similar gains.
@@h1tzzYT sorry, i thought by me saying ‘“even” the zen3d sees gains’ implied i knew its not as much as normal ryzen.
You havent really refuted what i said though. Unless you think “slightly” and few percent are different. Btw do u have a source for zen4 3d scaling the same as zen3d?
@@h1tzzYT btw it can be more than 4% if we’re talking min fps via tighter subtimings
Edit: ehh ill take that back. Its been awhile since i looked that up so i could be wrong. But i do remember seeing meaningful min fps boosts with tuning that i wasnt down to grind for
Hi, I have an RTX 4090 Gamerock OC and a 7950X3D with BIOS settings set to prefer cache and PBO, additionally tuned RAM at 6000MHz CL28. I checked the FPS only in Forza, and precisely at the same high settings you presented in the video, the processor generates an average of 304fps for you, while for me, it's averaging 380-400fps. This is without frame generator; with it, there are around 480fps. I think you should conduct tests on a better-tuned Ryzen setup, and additionally on an Intel system with higher RAM clock speeds, like 7000-7200MHz. This is practically achievable for every unit, so that comparative tests truly make sense. It would provide a better verification of what works best for us.
Such a huge difference in Horizon. Also, I wonder if ray tracing will make use of cache?
Horizon always favors AMD, so that one isnt particularly impressive
its also the case for nvidia and intel, if they win at particular game, they win
rt done by rt cores on gpu so unlikely
no, if u look cyberpunk and spiderman both using raytracing performs better on 13900k
horizon was made for console thats using amd processor.
Testing at 1080p is pointless people who buy these chips aren't playing at 1080p I don't get why we're seeing this resolution. We wanna see the difference where it matters
For CPU tests, 1080p is already enough to see the most differences, otherwise its a GPU bound scenarios, small to no difference at all.
but including 1440p & 2160p would be better. It took a lot of work to do.
I am surprised to see similar performance with 20-30% lower power draw.
Good job AMD, wish it was that good with GPUs too.
as far as i read this is only while gaming, therefore when you often use that PC for browsing, office or youtube/netflix more than gaming, then intel wins the "less power consumption". might only be of interest for ppl who have their PC turned on all day, but still a thing to consider
Do another video comparison between both but this time with only the 3D V cache CCD enable in BIOS I saw benchmarks of games with this config with massive gains
I would second that with use 7200MT memory on the Intel chip so everyone can see both chips at their best. The cost difference is about $100-$150 USD to step up from a DDR5 6000 kit to just purchasing the 7200 kit.
the correct would be use 19 13900KS which is the intel current top performance CPU. It's around 10% faster than 13900K.
While it is the fastest consumer cpu, its twice as costly and the 13900k and there isn't really any reason to buy one. You will be much better off with a 7950x3d or even a 13900k
Whoever still using "omg ~20-50W difference while gaming" as a major factor for these cpus, never actually owned any of them and they are not the targeted consumer base. What actually matters in ultra high end:
1. performance
2. (optional) Can i cool it with nhd15/240mm AIO? (and the answer is yes to 100% of cases)
Yup, these people haven't had a single CPU that cost more than $300 in their life time.
Core i9 13900KS + RYZEN 9 7950X3D + Core i9 10980XE + RYZEN THREADRIPPER PRO 5995WX + Apple M2 Ultra = 10,000FPS in games
$100 more and still losing in most games...nice work amd😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
and in any case the 7950x3d should be compared with the 13900ks, not with a 13900k
with 7600mhz memory as well. As Intel excells with it's better memory controllers.
@@pabloescobar_443 yeah, right
x3D is a great option for small form factor builds. however, if you already have a 13700k etc and 1000w power supply...id say the price of these new Ryzen chips just isn't worth it. Only one that will make sense is the 7800x3d when that comes out.
i think the same 7800x3d is the best
Dont foget the power consumption it may not be something people care about but it realy matter if you have to use a pc at long term
how come 7800x3d wil be better :O i was abouto to get the 7950x3d
@@redblock1382 more affordable price for a lot performance and power efficiency . But yes if you gave a use of the 7900x3d got for it
@@redblock1382 the same reason 5800x3d is a good cpu today and many people buy today . 7800x3d will be similar.
Hogwarts legacy 1080p only 80 fps with 4090. Holy shit. they have to change something about the game.
you simply cant. The way the game is day 1 wont change with a million updates. Heck a 3060 and i3 10th gen would run 15 fps lower at the same 1080p ultra settings and save you over $1500 usd. Game companies are all trash and that benchmark proves it right there to never buy high end products its a huge waste of money.
Waiting patiently for the 7800X3D vs 5800X3D. I wanna see if it's worth the upgrade. I'm really loving the 5800X3D with my RTX4090!! But of course I am cpu bottlenecked😖
What resolution are you playing in 🤔?
@Zelara right now I have a 1440p 144Hz monitor. Will probably get a 4K on the future when they're more reasonably priced! Which is funny since I bought a 4090🤣🤣🤣
@@denziiey 4k gaming OLEDs are going to be out next year, maybe end of this year. You won't have to wait too long I think.
para que vas a esperar ? quédate con el 5800x3D
mejor vete por eñ 8800x3d o el 9800x3d
@@denziiey it's quite hard to bottleneck a 4090 in 2k with that cpu
Overall AVG:
Intel i9 13900K: 178
AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D: ~183
I have i9 13900k and there is always going to be something better eventually. However she's no slouch!
Nah, the i9 13900k is kinda meh
That's one of the things to account for, for a person looking to invest in either platform. There is eventually going to be something better, and one day what you are about to buy won't be good enough. When that day comes, there going to be something better available on AM5. Where 1st - 2nd gen Ryzen no longer hold up, there is the 5800X3D/5950X, at discounted prices as a drop in upgrade.
If you want extra performance, disable the eCores and overclock to 6Ghz. Also overclock your RAM to 7800-8200Mhz.
@@NoThisIsntMyChannel poor people comments both are fast.
@@TheBURBAN111 I was making fun of the first comment that said the i9 13900k was "no slouch". That is certainly an understantement for the fastest Intel CPU available.
average of 50 watts less power consumption
less power consumption means less cooling requirements
and sometimes it beats the i9 with a big fps margin
AMD wins gaming this time
I wanna see the I9 13900KS against this thing
+1
HUB included one in their 7950x3d review. Used 7200mt ram, too
Normally it would be 13900KS vs 7950X3D
Its mind-blowing that all these monster CPUs are still huge bottlenecks for 4090 in 1080p.
That's also due in part to Nvidia DX12 driver overhead.
AMD GPU perform better than this.
By the time it matters we'll have the next CPUs like Arrow Lake and Zen 5, and then shortly after that the next GPU series.
Damn that 7950x3D efficient as hell!!
this channel videos not real .
@@gamerking7352 real or not 7950x3d is efficient as hell...
@@gamerking7352 other bench show the same result's
Almost the efficiency of 13900ks
@@kanenas1727 yeah true and its good. this channel 99% videos are not real but people cant simply see it?
stick with 13900k guys smoother frametimes most reviewers wont tell you this
Plus Intel is the best all around chip. Those amd X3D chips are geared toward gaming and start to show their setbacks when you start doing anything productive.
please make 13900ks vs 7950x3d
we are very excited to see this comparison
🔥🔥🔥
who is we. also this is the 7950X3D
@@metalvideos1961
if you don't want there are many want
and I don't care if it's 7950x3d
ks is barely better lol, expect similar results to this
ok that was fast
Why is gpu usage so low? Is that intentional?
The 7950X3D will definitely be the processor I buy when I decide to upgrade from my 5600X.
But don't sell 5600x, it's still the best processor with 65w TDP, keep it as secondary processor, who knows it might comes in handy in the future
For gaming?Better go with 7800x3d.
don't forget the new motherboard
and ram
dude .... buy the 5800x3d and you won't miss much and you will save a lot of money that can go to future GPU upgrade or a better monitor.
You aren’t using the 13900ks to its maximum whilst you are for the 7950X3D due to using 6,000MHz RAM for both.
The 7000 Series’ sweet spot and pm max for RAM is 6,000
Whilst the 13th Gen is 7,200
The Ryzen 7 7800x 3D it's rumored to be even better because of the 3D V cache in one CCD die with 8 cores so that the windows or games doesn't need to keep transitioning to the cores that doesn't 3D wich adds more latency like the R9 7950X 3D
can u switch off the seond CCD in 7950x ?
@@kahaanikasamay i you mean the normal version of the 7950x idk but yes on the 3D version
Its stupid that literary every reviewer test the x3d cpus on 1080p and say "to make a load on the cpu" *then put a RTX 4090* and the res is 1080p it doesn't make a sense anyone who have a rtx 4090 and use something could brain will put the res on 4k or even 8k and the performance gab between the ryzen 9 x3d and the i9 13900k is 5% at the best Scenario at 4k
So for the gaming with rtx 4090 i recommend going for ryzen 5 7600x or the i5 13600k (Ryzen 5 better choice and has a new platform but the i5 beats at the multi core test so the choice is yours)
Can anyone explain what’s up with hogwarts legacy? Is it just poorly optimized? Only 80fps on a 7950x3d and 4090?? I know it’s still pretty new but damn
Crazy how efficient the x3d is
Efficiency is nice but AM5 boards price is just insane at the moment. Maybe it's regional thing but I can't find any affordable mid-high boards for these chips. While with 1700, I can still buy a very good Z690 or a decent Z790 for a way lower price than X670, hell even B650 is expensive.
Look at the power drawal, great job AMD!
serious question...why do people care about power draw at this price point? the cost is negligible
@@xdxd6087ts more than just the electricity from the outlet. A/C is expensive. Plus the 13900k/s needs a few more supporting parts if you want to overclock it faster than a 7950x3d. Like at least a midrange z690 board with good vrm, >7800mt ram, bigger psu, 420mm aio and maybe a new case that can fit one. Then play silicon lottery and hope to get a CPU that can hit 8000mt. Or you can just get the X3D with some cheaper midrange parts and call it a day.
yes, I see you are going to buy this processor at such a PRICE right now and you will be worried about power consumption, we understand you.
@@cheesyriceo4 i guess but overclockers will prefer the 13900k i bought the kf with z690 aorus ultra and 360mm aio and ive got it up to 5.7ghz all core at 1.39v power aint a issue for me im on solar so basically infinite
@@xdxd6087 nice. I wish i had solar, but for my usage its not worth it yet.
But why have a $350 board and only oc to 5.7? What about memory oc? From what ive seen, a lot of gains can come from mem oc on raptor lake
Edit: ive seen the gains be like over half* from mem oc alone if you have a cpu + ram thats stable at >8000mt
judging by the tests, overpaying 100 dollars for 7950 3d for 5 fps, well, it's better to add these 100 to the video card.
for people who says that the Ryzen 7 7800x3D or (ryzen 9 7950x3d)
is the fastest gaming cpu on the world its only at the games that use the 3D cache (some games don't use the 3D cache and you will get worse performance ) and If any one built the fastest gaming pc he will 100% play at 4K or even 8K not 1080p like the all paid reviews and don't be idiot and say "the cpu should be tested on 1080p to make a load on the cpu" because it doesn't make a sense at all and the ryzen 7 7800x3D in multi core performance has a whole 60% decease compared to a cpu at the same price (ryzen 9 7900x)and a only 5% increase on gaming performance at 4k in the best Scenario
so i recommend go for the ryzen 9 7900x at the same price you will get more 60% in multi core and only lose 5% in the gaming performance (at a real Scenario (4k)) in the worst
And the thing that make the x3d cpus even worse that some games doesn't need that much 3d cache so you will lose amount of performance
Good luck cooling down that 13900k xD AMD is still king
It's amazing that even with fewer cores, less frequency and lower power consumption, 3d wins on almost everything.
for the price 13900k wins(585£ to 720£) and raytracing performance is better on 13900k so it is more future proof.
LOL!!! Some of you are comparing power efficiency and price in a TOP OF THE LINE CPU...oh my. Pick whichever one you are a fan of and you can't go wrong.
I see I didn’t go wrong with the 13900k
@Mike yeah, cause it’s more powerful maybe?
Hello, New amd driver?
Why not compare the 13900KS?
@@nichronos c*ckglotter - here we go again
:o incredibru, but it kills me to know that we are experimenting with new tech beta testing... a 5k system for random game crashes, crushes me everytime to know that... im more likely to suffer the steam deck then to get a rig like that.... im hoping for something like a 6700 xt system in the future but dont like the idea of continiously buy expensive pc rigs, and im getting older too, so maybe something a little more down to earth, maybe a 1k pc plus a new qd oled or like monitor :) i'll be thinking about this for ages to come.
These v-cache chips are like the 7900xtx for me. They had to be much better than the competition to shake things up but the difference is too small on average to matter
Wait for the 8 core one. I think the 16 core will be the worst version. But look at the power usage, now subtract 8 cores from that. I think it'll be pretty impressive, the 16 core version doesn't really make sense in my opinion.
I dont think its best to buy X3D based on averages though. While there are games that run amazing with v cache, there’s also ones that barely give an uplift.
Its best to look at the specific games you play and decide from there. But there’s also the argument for power consumption and platform support if you want the option to upgrade CPUs again in a year or two. All depends whats important to you
With amd gpus you lose every single encoder support and you are stuck with x264 and AV1.
@@kazuviking amd gpu have hevc
R I.P Intel .. your temp and power consumption will be remembered forever in our frozen heart
not quite, it is cheaper
RIP? the chip is cheaper, can use higher frequency ram. the AMD 3D chips are ONLY good at gaming. Bad value IMO
Nonsense talk.
@@arthurcurry850 hes going to purchase an intel chip at the end of the day lol
13900KS is at same price as 7950X3D and at that point is better on 90% of games and everytime on multitasking.
Yes, Intel has like 50%-2x times more consmption, but when you are using a RTX 4090 and your PC uses 700-800W, that don’t care.
I prefer Intel… It’s better for me
I'm making a new all AMD build since I spent way too much time and money on Nvidia in my younger years, and I am salivating over the 7950x3d. It's just so damn beautiful and efficient. Can't wait to finish my build
Still expensive as hell though
the 7950x was murdered by the 13900K, so they had to put the X3D there xD
It's very interesting that the 7950x3D draws less power than 13900K but runs hotter.
Overhall I could say they are paired. Except for Horizon, which I think demands a look and explanation why ryzen was so ahead on that specific game. Anyone?
It's not worth for $100 more, at 4K it's absolutely same perf!
The only reason buy it is 3D V-cache and lower cpu power consumption
Userbenchmark: "dont trust influencer who picks certain titles to showcase amd new cpu. It's slower than the 2nd gen intel"
Me: i think id rather trust a youtuber than a corporate shell
Also the efficiency is insane, this is not a very big leap from the no x3d ryzen chips. Kind of dissapointed honestly. Not saying these aren't beasts tho!
*24% better?*
*I don't think so...*
Nice now send me that system for cs!
Bro the 3d series processors have good processing speed and they can perform better in cpu centric games and softwares but the intel processors make a good combination with the gpu and helps in gpu centric games!
That's my opinion what's yours? (Reply)
The i9 13900KS is the one that should have been compared with the Ryzen 7950X3D!
13900KS barely has uplift from 13900K in gaming
@@MendAmar The 13900KS clocks.5.7-5.8 on most cores and 6ghz on 2. out the box. I've gamed on the non KS... 5.4 steady was the max. With xmp and some overclock it reached 5.6.
result: BOTH ARE MONSTER THAT MY FAMILY LINE CANT AFFORD
5:03 wow, the difference of 48 fps is a very big gap
this specific game favors AMD greatly
Wait what??? Witcher 3 with raytracing 80-90 fps in 1080p??? With a 4090?? What in the world...
Looking at the price and how evenly good they are at certain games. Intel is the clear winner for me. $100 more can get you a decent RAM to maximize the CPU performance.
Bro even 13700k wud punish 7950x3d
HUB already compared this to a 13900KS model with 7200MT memory. You should check it out. Its not exactly faster even with more expensive cpu and ram.
At the moment in my country 7950X3D costs x2 more than i9 13900k lol
So they basically are about the same?
@@notenjoying666 not in all terms cuz' 7950X3D is more energy-efficient
for example in cyberpunk 150w (intel) vs 100w (amd) lmao
@@notenjoying666 care less but on the other hand in the end you have more cash in your wallet
@@notenjoying666 sad reality tho
I'm not a Intel or AMD fanboy, it's too childish to fight about that stuff, between 7950X3D and 13900K, I prefer 13900K because of being $150 cheaper and in average there isn't that big difference with 7950X, but i think the 7800X3D is the best for gaming, $100 cheaper than 13900k, low power consumption and the same FPS.
Test some games that really benefit from the vcache, tarkov, rust, etc… everyone posts reviews with the same old games.
++++
old games? hogwarts literally came out 2 weeks ago
The only problem I have with this test is its not a true show of the 13900K. If you unlock the power restrictions and overclock the 13900K to 5.8-5.9 (almost all of them can do) It will probably close that gap.
you need them the best expensive cooler or better a water cooling to control those temps and the cpu power draw would be to high... is to much.
Max u can overclock the 13900k is 5.8ghz but sometimes my games crashed....5.7ghz is the best and safe....games didn't crash at all.
I'm on Team AMD, I mean look at that TDP, same performance as Intel i9 13900K but lower TDP, and slightly better performance on some games, noice AMD 👍🏿👍🏻
Yeah those 13 WATTS less really make the difference right ? xD hahahaah
@@S.V.23 from the other benchmarks ive seen its more like 100w difference in gaming
@@S.V.23 yup, with great power comes with great electricity bills 🤪
@@Bilal.Hussain.Shaikh bro you cant win to intel fanboy.
@@cheesyriceo4 lmao no its 75w-90w for the 7950x 3d and 85-130w on the 13900k.. thats not a 100% difference.
Geez FINALLY! Someone makes Forza Horizon 5 benchmarks!!! For this CPU. Thank you man!
This is great to see, it has been so long since AMD's high-end CPU could beat Intel's high-end CPU in gaming. This is something I haven't recalled seeing ever since the 2600k came out
FX series never beat Intel
Oof, 7950X3D is a overpriced POS.
Am I the only one who pays attention to the 1% lows? Average FPS means nothing to me
Me too 🙌
Yup. Especially for VR. Total headset resolutions ~ 4K, but the gold standard’s 90 min fps
Yes dude you're the only one, nobody is as intelligent as you ❤️
I'm sorry, WHAT? You're running this off a 850W PSU? I thought you needed at least a 1000W cause I thought I saw something that max load+OC could reach like 800W alone
7950X3D Sin duda el mejor procesador para gaming del mundo, mas fps con menor consumo.... pero ahora mi duda es mas grande con el rendimiento que dara el 7800X3D!!!!! Madre mia AMD
No soy fan de Intel o AMD, pero entre el 13900k y 7950X3D, me quedo con el i9 ya que rinde casi igual y es mucho mas barato, si hablamos de un procesador que este al nivel del 13900k y que consuma aun menos con los mismos FPS y mas barato, me gusta mas el 7800X3D.
mucho mejor que cualquier cagada sobrevalorada de intel actualmente, solo fijate en los juegos mal optimizados es donde mas brilla amd por su cache 3d, en horizon le saca 50 FPS al intel JAJA y consume mucho menos intel en vez de ir adelante va atrasandose , la innovacion realmente la esta haciendo amd consumiendo menos watts
overpaying $100 for 5-7 frames is ridiculous and stupid
Braindead amd users what can i say
I agree
@@Mohanad204 I'd take AMD for my productivity tasks anyday over intel. Not much of a gamer but rendering and game engine work is a breeze on my 7950X3D
@Tyler Dobson i don't give a single fuck about what you want lol facts are facts whether you like it or not ret@rd
interesting perf and efficiecy for the 7950X3D, but i'll wait for another generation instead since im still too happy with my 5800x3D
Its a beast of a chip
is it just me or are CPU's getting stagnant? Not really seeing a performance jump here. Sad. The 5800x3d is neck and neck with the 13900k. AMD doesn't believe in competition anymore I guess. Just putting out garbage.
did you disable the the ccd without the v cache? you will get a lot more fps
There are three different option to chose from tho! BIOS, Game bar and AMD chipset drivers.
whilst you're at it enable XMP on your ram at 7600mhz and see how the 13900k takes off lmao
@@GioCTRL RAM speed doesn't matter. They did testing with 7200mhz and the x3d chip was still slapping cheeks. So 400mhz more would not matter. what matters is the timmings on the dimms.
@@BrawlXKing ryzen supports 6000mhz 13th supports over 8k 7000mhz to 8000mhz has a lowest of 5fps and average 10-20fps difference
@@kodakblack531 AMD chips can run faster DIMMS but you lose performance after that. beneficially you would wanna run them at a 1 to 1 ratio.
4:56 HOLY MOLY!
7950X3D is in a really bad spot because with it's $700 it makes it a bad value if you just want gaming performance since the 7800X3D is gonna achieve the same for a little over half the price and if you want gaming and productivity a 13900K is a better value since it's only $589 and not to mention the 13900K smokes the 7950X3D at productive workloads.
13900K "smokes" the 7950X3D in productivity? Umm sorry where did you get such a result from?
Last time I checked the 13900K pulling 250W still can't beat the 7950X3D sipping 150W in long Blender renders (The 7950X being even a couple of % faster).
The ryzen 9 7950x3d smokes the i9 13900k in productivity except in Adobe where quicksync comes into play, even if it is 5% slower than the vanilla ryzen 9 7950x in productivity, not to mention that the ryzen 9 7950x3d consumes half the power of the i9 13900k in productivity. But both i9 13900k and ryzen 9 7950x are expensive anyway and not worth it imo, if i had to choose though between these two, i would easily pick the Ryzen 9 part because it has 16 actual P cores instead of only 8 P cores from Intel than you can get them from i7 13700k anyways, plus the longevity of the AM5 platform.
Yes also you can tune it to 125w for workloads or 60w in games and lose 30% and 5% respectively or a 13900ks on 150w with the performance of a 13900k at 200w
💀💀💀 1:23 imagine being worse than tarkov/rust in optimizing your game