If being pro-Israel means agreeing with every single thing Israel does regardless of how destructive and egregious, with no criticism or consequence, then that's a problem. We don't even deal with our loved ones that way.
@renetorres3568Israel is bombing the refugees it displaced to create the country. What do you mean pro Israel or pro Palestine? I’m against genocide and settler colonialism and apartheid because I am pro human. Zionism is an anti human ideology
Thank you for standing your ground. Subscribers can unsubscribe, but not censor. The minute you allow yourself to be censored by yourself or others, you will be just another useless media outlet. We are here because you are beholden to no one and nothing but your own conscience and understanding. Keep it up. We are extremely grateful for your service to us.
@@TimBitts649 Yep yep. I wouldn't go as Hugh as 80% but I do like to hear a diversity of opinion and just generally keep up with the news of the day. Even if I don't agree with what they say about Israel storming a hospital, it's good to know they did in fact storm a hospital.
Platforming Finkelstein is enough to unsubscribe. I didn't but I'll admit I don't watch as much especially when I it's a Krystal vid. Just way too progressive for my taste. The most I can say is that they're honest.
Sagar going into a 5 minute critical analysis on cargo pants finally leading to a nuanced view on fashion as a whole is the most Sagar-like thing he could’ve done to end the year. Cheers mate!
It's so sad that he did that just to come to the wrong conclusion. No one is asking for a million more October 7th videos. But when you talk about anti Palestinian rhetoric at home, when by the numbers there is a higher increase in anti semitism, that shows your bias. When you don't have on a single guest who isn't leaning neutral like Jacko or totally pro Hamas, that shows bias. When you make a whole video about BB calling this conflict a holy war, but don't talk about the Hamas charter or the fact that Islam calls for Sharia law when Muslims are the majority in the country which is anti progressive in every way, that shows your bias. It's bad when it's so obvious to someone on the outside, but they are both oblivious to it. They can't possibly believe they are being fair and impartial while Krystal says there's no both sidesing genocide. So now both sides believe it's a genocide? That's not true because I'm actually watching both sides. It's clear there's one side here. The big issue is lying about it.
Their analysis on public sentiment shifting depending on whether Biden said it or trump is frankly terrifying and very telling about the tribalistic nature our democracy has become.
it's also extremely important. a lot of normie libs / vote blue no matter who gang think they're morally superior just by opposing trump; but they have absolute blinders on when it comes to biden (or any "centrist" democrat) doing the absolute worst things. i hate trump as much as any other non-american, but there's a reason the republicans can even elect such an insane demagogue in the first place: it's the ratchet effect enabled by "moderate" democrats. if normie libs can't self-critique, then they're as much a part of the problem as the fascists they criticise.
Yeah except it’s wrong. If trump were in office the major media would still be pro Israel because they own them as well as the politicians. Why else couldn’t out journalist see for themselves the situation in Gaza without the IDF combing over the footage and allowing only what they wanted to be released? Our politicians and major media have severely discredited themselves by unequivocally supporting a genocide.
If you want the Israeli perspective. The Israeli government is allowed to hold a daily press conference on Fox Live every day. Which is still nuts. That a foreign government can do that.
If they're viewers want to see the Israeli government description of events, there shouldn't be a problem. UKRAINE Zelensky is constantly on CNN AND MSNBC
Except there is when one side's (Hamas) entire identity and government is dedicated to the elimination of the other side (Israel), the one side (Hamas) has attacked over, and over, and over again and refused all reasonable cessation of violence agreements in the past including self-governance and statehood agreements if they would just stop constantly attacking. And the side who is supposedly being "genocided" started things off with one of the most hideous displays of mans inhumanity towards man in modern times but didn't have the tech, numbers, or power to stay in the fight for more than a few hours of civilian slaughtering before crawling back in their hidey-holes and pretending to be innocent Gazan citizens until the next opportunity to attack arises. Krystal and Chompers are just wrong on this one. The Palestinians have had numerous opportunities to just let it go and begin to set their own destiny. Tge rest of the world has all been willing to help them if it means peace but at every single turn they have chosen violence. How long exactly do you expect Israel to put up with the daily rocket attacks and occasional suicide bombers? Would you live that way? It has to stop. It just has to stop and I really don't care how at this point.
There are international definitions of genocide and this checks every boxes. You can deny reality all you want, you’re still a cheerleader for genocide. You.
How can you possibly watch this show for any amount of time and believe they are unbiased? There is no such thing as unbiased. They may seem unbiased because they are feeding you what you want to hear.
Thanks Boston, we love you. Keep up the good work, any American Not advocating freedom for anyone human being should just go and move to Russia or Israel and leave us free people is an abysmal reflection of what the God of Abrahamian actually says about Life. Funny the bible I read was about this liberal name Jesus who loves the world, I guess that is also why the Israelites wandered the desert for 40 years YES 40 years for their arrogance of their God, not my story, there story.
@manuelmedranoii5810 You shouldn't give blind alliance. That is why we have a moral obligation to educate ourselves and produce the best quality of action for yourself, your family, and your community over time. So, your observation seems more like a criticism of your own character. Fine, you don't give your blind allegiance to Israel, but this is the most pressing geopolitical question of our era. Maybe you should meditate on your emptiness, and not just espouse vague platitudes. To whom do you give your alliance? What would you die for?
There must have been significant backlash for the weekly response video to be made public. We are living through a post 9/11 world again where people get insanely outraged at you for just being consistent on having an anti-war stance. It's like most of us learned nothing the past 2 decades.
That isn't correct. Hamas is using their population as human shields. And Hamas started the war. You can't claim to be anti-war under these conditions unless you are delusional.
Having an anti war stance is ideal. Reality is Krystal was not speaking about the attacks on October 7 with the same passion she speaks about the response.
@Radioghost717 that might be because the atrocities against Palestinians has been ongoing, even now. Has also been proven that the isreali government has killed a few the hostages taken so even they don't really have concern for their own citizens.
The funniest thing about K and S is that they are both such clothes horses. 😂 I, for one, appreciate their enthusiasm for their shared interest. I think it's endearing.
If you want to know why BP viewers might be frustrated over the coverage of the Israeli-Hamas war, here’s some quick math. I just scrolled back through the past two weeks of BP RUclips posts on the conflict and there were zero with a guest or report speaking from an Israeli perspective, there were 4 posts totaling 51 minutes that were more general reporting, and then there were 15 posts totaling 400 minutes, or 6 hours and 40 minutes, that were blatant pro Palestine guests or reports that painted Israel negatively. I honestly don’t mind getting content from both perspectives because there are two sides to every war, but this has been nearly completely one-sided as of late. And I don’t care to hear outright Israeli propaganda anymore than I want to hear Hamas propaganda, but at least have someone on to give a perspective. For example, several times in BP reports the percentage of Israeli people who favor IDF actions or even feel they haven’t done enough was thrown out by Krystal and suggested as a clear example of how Israelis are just evil and genocidal. Well, have someone on to explain why the Israeli population feels that way, such as the years of Palestinian suicide bombers or tens of thousands of rocket and mortar attacks on Israel from the Gaza Strip since 2001, or the 9,500 rocket, mortar or drone attacks on Israel from Gaza just in a little over a month after Oct. 7. Those don’t get covered because thankfully for Israel’s sake they are often rather primitive and ineffective, but they happen, they show a clear intent and desire to kill Israelis, any Israelis since these by no stretch are guided munitions, and that has to wear on the Israeli people. I think the Israelis know if the military capabilities in the region were reversed, they would all be dead, so they aren’t opposed to any actions that prevent that from happening. Perspective, that’s all. Share more about why Israel feels justified in doing what they’re doing, and then let viewers agree or not, instead of just guest after guest and report after report about how Israel is bad.
Your response is well thought out and articulate. Thank you for taking the time. Israel is having an understandably emotional reaction to an atrocity. However, I feel it is ultimately failing to accomplish any of their actual goals other than the need for revenge and this comes at the expense of tens of thousands of innocents, which is repugnant and makes clear the Israelis see Palestinian civilians as second class citizens not worthy of being allowed to live simply for having the bad luck of living in Gaza at this point in time. When you have scores of israeli officials making their goal clear and the bombs killing dozens of innocents daily, forgive me, but I don't give a shit what their justification for evil is...its still evil regardless whether it has an understandable emotional motivation.
Very well said. I’ve been feeling the same way. I don’t listen to the Israel coverage from BP because I know what they’re going to say. Israel bad, period. I get it, they think Israel bad. But I would love to hear an Israel point of view. Why do pro Israel people feel the way they do? Understanding how someone with an opposing opinion got there is the first step to finding common ground. I feel completely uninformed in this area because I’m only getting one point of view from BP.
Yes and we can add to this the scrutiny they place on all Israeli and idf information whereas they use the Hamas and PLA information and data in their narrativisation of the conflict. I am not saying all the Israeli information or data is accurate but it comes across as disingenuous when you will only do this with one side and not the other. They may caveat the info from hamas but they still do incorporate it into the content where as they do not do the same with the information coming from Israel. I'd love to see some more moderate perspectives about this from guests who are knowledgeable of of region and the conflict.
Israel is committing textbook genocide and ethnic cleansing amongst other war crimes. Would you suggest both sidesing Germany's/Hitler's war crimes? Think about it. SMH
I do agree with the sentiment of the first question. Its only one-sided and they aren't really covering it fully, its just pro Palestine view. You don't have to be pro Israel, but at least own your owb bias. Krystal has done 90% of the coverage, so thats really the only perspective and she is pretty far left.
As someone who has also been slightly turned off by Breaking Points coverage of this conflict, I can tell you that a lack of constant sympathy for the victims of 10/6 is not what the issue here is. Personally my biggest issue with all of these harsh Israel critics is, what's your purposed alternative solution? You seem to be very keen on being critical of Israel's response to October 6th, but like virtually all critics, you offer no potential solution. In Krystal and Saagar's opinion, what is the correct way forward for dealing with Palestine and Hamas? And sorry, I don't want to hear "I'm not a general and I don't know anything about war." You know enough to be strong critics, so propose something of substance, or ATLEAST admit the fact that you have NO CLUE how to solve this issue, JUST LIKE THE REST OF US.
Maybe there should be more talk about solutions But it is easy to see what is wrong with Israels response unless you are predisposed to a certain view . The actions of the IDF show them to be more about making Gaza uninhabitable than any military objective . Solutions ? Would be resolving the problem by offering fair solutions , not creating another 2 generations who will hate Israel and be willing to die for revenge for what is going on right now . Talking about real solutions feels naive right now because Israel is not interested and the US seems unwilling to exert influence
This is correct & a lot of Israelis have been calling out their gov't long before the Oct 7th attacks on how the Palestinians are treated. The Netanyahu led gov't is a full-on far right gov't.
I'm not a big supporter of this channel, in general. But I 100% support your question the humanitarian crimes being committed. The world will never forget what has happened in the Gaza. NEVER. The world has changed, We have all changed. The monsters are in charge of the worlds most dangerous weapons. Shame on those that don't understand what is happening. There is no going back now.
Krystal cannot admit that the goal of the Israeli advance in Gaza is to prevent Hamas from threatening Israel’s citizens, because to do so means Krystal would have to admit that she has been fundamentally wrong about the nature of the conflict, that Israel has been engaged in a defensive war from the beginning. So her only recourse is to define it as an offensive action with the goal of genocide, an Orwellian twisting of reality considering the stated goal and actions taken by Hamas.
I'm not sure what Israeli perspective we didn't hear in this channel, such as bibi saying he supports Hamas so there's no way to have a two state solution, or how majority israelis want to expel the Palestinians, or how only 1.8% israelis' think the IDF is being too brutal .... Like tell me which Israeli perspective we still need to hear.
@@middleagebrotips3454 I think that what you're saying is just the point (of the pro-Israel side). Those are pro-Palestine talking points that make the Israelis appear to be monsters. It could also be pointed out that a big majority of Palestinians support Hamas and mass murder of Israelis. There, now things are a little more balanced.
The only reason I support you guys is I believe you try to be honest I don’t agree with Saagar but sometimes his perspective is great to hear Keep up the good work
What a phoney Ball is. Has she "covered" Hamas' charter, its aims, its jihadi philosophy? Do you have any idea how Israel should defend itself, other than clownish suggestions about a "two state solution" that turns East Jerusalem into Gaza? Then Enjeti whines that his right to say whatever he wants is being challenged, which is utterly disingenuous.
It's not that they were criticizing Israel. It's that they were criticizing Israel nonstop 24/7 and not even blinking an eye at Hamas, but instead, blindly repeating Hamas talking points. It's pretty obvious that Krystal runs the show around here and that she is extremely anti-Israel.
Kudos for doubling down on your stance. But for me, it was a disappointing response. I understand being critical of one side can be deemed "pro-Israel/Hamas". My criticism of Breaking Points is how the news is being reported. Yes, all air attacks are done from Israel -- at this point -- but that is only one side of the war. They mentioned that they have not had any Palestinian people on their show and that, in fact, it is not fair to the Palestinians. I would encourage them to bring on more Palestinians to speak up. Ask the average Palestinian how they feel towards Hamas. Do they support Hamas? What are their feelings towards Jews? What have the Israelis done to harm them and their families? Don't give any guest (Israeli or Palestine) softball questions. The reason why you had to respond to subscribers -- and make it the headline -- is because Krystal has hijacked the show to spew Palestinian propaganda. Do you think we are that dumb? "We are just reporting the war. And unfortunately, the war at this point is going to paint Israel negatively". But why are we not looking into why the majority of Palestinians SUPPORT Hamas and that Hamas's mission is to kill all Jews (it's in their constitution)? I don't want "pro" anything I want the facts. The Palestinians are in an "open-air prison" because of their own actions (suicide bombings weekly in the 90s and 00s). Israel has been committing war crimes with a corrupt government. Tell us the whole story....not just Krystal's perspective. Just so you know, I know Saagar thinks a lot of this is BS. I wish he would speak up and correct Krystal more often. I stopped watching about a month ago. I loved Breaking Points. I thought it was a show where two brilliant people came on to give us an honest take on the news. But Krystal has completely lost the plot with this story. You can tell her emotions have taken over at this point.
Why don't you invite Caroline Glick or a pro-Israel historian for a discussion? if you can invite norman finkelstein, you can invite someone with a complete opposite view of the conflict.
It is not a matter of two equal opinions on the matter. Both sides are not right. Caroline Glick is a biased propagandist and her opinions are the same sort of crap anyone can hear in the mainstream media. Israel is morally, legally, religiously and historically wrong. We need people to tell the truth not obscure the facts.
These people don’t either. You know how long it took them to actually do this???? They only did it on this one subject . What about all the other nonsense Krystal has lied about her audience has criticized her for???
@@mbg4681 Krystal was wrong about everything she reported during Covid….her audience told her for years now!!! Where’s her response to her audience in that??? How dare you defend this shit ass outlet
Wouldnt worry about being called stuff. Its all they have let them get on with it. If it helps them to call me whatever they like i dont care, nothing will change the fact is damn right disgusting what there doing. Ive been called worse and no doubt will in the future, none of it changes anything.
@@SirNoxasKrad it’s war. Civilians die in war. Sucks, but that’s the deal. Also, where is your outrage about actual genocides in the world? How about Syria? How about China and its Muslims? Many other issues in the world. Why so focused on this? Should Israel just lie down and get slaughtered?
@porter9494 wait??? You think God saved the Israelis or helped them win any war?? Try my tax dollars, I am personally against all religions regardless of which one it is. However anybody who turns a blind eye to the slaughter of innocent children regardless of where they come from and calls themselves a "child of god" is not only a fool they are also a hypocrite
I never comment on RUclips videos, but thought it important to do so here - when it comes to this issue you are one of very few reliably honest brokers of news. You are doing a great job.
They’re doing dreadful. They’re being clear? This is a holocaust according to them, and you. Where is the Mengele, where is the Himmler, where are the mass graves? You get your numbers directly from the bad guys.
You have to admit that Krystal has very anti-israeli sentiments. That is quite obvious. She tries to put a spin on that but she can't and comes out very insincere.
When you say "Israeli" is there a distinction between government action and people in your mind?. ( I do believe she has Hardline stances against certain things but Israel I don't believe to be one of them)
"Put a spin on it" The actions of the Israeli gov't speaks for itself. Being critical of the Israeli gov't doesn't make you antisemitic and they are not above criticism especially when committing a genocide.
Never watched your show before RUclips started recommending non-stop anti-Israel videos from you. Haven't been impressed, and from the videos I've seen you are frequently searching for criticisms to the Israel narrative and then discounting it wholesale, and then buying the Hamas narrative with benefit of the doubt (not that I'm suggesting you shouldn't scrutinize either, but from what I've seen it's all scrutiny one way and all belief the other). Lots of folks yammer on about how he supposedly is silencing the Palestinian voices, but I think Piers Morgan has clearly been doing the best job of any media figure covering this. It's far more helpful to hear a diversity of voices hashing it out across many interviews than to just hear 2 people spout their own perspective over and over- that's hardly journalism. Piers clearly has his own perspective, but he at least is letting other perspectives be heard, rather than merely asserting his own editorialized stories all day long.
@porter9494 >> Мuzziеs Gee, I wonder if you're going to have a balanced take on the issue. >> lost the war. So did Jews under Nazi Germany. Does that make it okay?
@porter9494 Spoken like a racist bigot that supports Apartheid Israel, Ethnic Cleansing and Genocide. ☠️ _Shame on you!_ About 10 000 children have now been massacred by Apartheid Israel. ☠️
I am 78 years old, a U S Army veteran, a relatively educated person and I read from various sources to get as broad a view of important issues as is practical for me. All that is to say, I believe your coverage of the Israeli (U S funded and endorsed) military actions in Gaza and other civilian and military actions in the West Bank has been as objective as possible. It seems obvious to me that the Israeli genocide is well established by its government's officials words and its military actions. I appreciate your reporting.
"It seems obvious to me that the Israel genocide is well established by its government official's words and military actions". Really? First, your veteran status confers no special insight into this conflict. Not sure why you brought that up. Second, the only thing you have established is that you are NOT educated on this topic when you espouse views like the one quoted above. The genocide is "obvious"? That is a pretty extreme conclusion to draw when HAMAS and Iran publicly call for the genocide of Jews and the destruction of the state of Israel. This has been going on for decades, so I'm not sure what "various sources" you have been reading throughout your long 78 years, but you missed a pretty "obvious" component of this conflict. Thank you for your service!
@@totallyshamanisticThis has become a tired, common tactic to "but Hamas and Iran...." without addressing the original point. The question wasn't who did what first, or who called for what, we are talking about what is ACTUALLY HAPPENING. If we operated solely on the words of politicians then we would always be at war. How many times has a US politician called to bomb a country into the stone age? Hamas never had the power to wipe Israel off the map. But let's keep pretending as if this conflict came out of nowhere and Israel was just peacefully minding their own business.
@@totallyshamanistic The argument for Genocide can be made by comparing IDF operations in Gaza to the following references : Geneva Conventions amended Protocol I (signed in 1977) and when breached, definition of War crimes, genocide, etc. as seen in U.N. adopted “Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court” ( I encourage you to review Part 2, Article 8, section 2).
Krystal immediately starts the answer to their (really her) Israel coverage by saying we fund Israel and it is our taxes going to this effort…the US has given BILLIONS in aid to Palestine so why isn’t she critiquing that side when those funds are used to build rockets, bombs, and fund terror? Also, her repeating and agreeing with Finkelstein, “You can’t steel man a genocide,” is just intellectually dishonest. The definition of genocide is, “the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.” The fact she and so called intellectuals like Norman Finkelstein will call Israel genocidal but not even say something as simple that Hamas is a terrorist organization shows the level of dishonestly in everything that comes out of her mouth.
Mainstream media has always represented one side over the other and never shed light on the actual issues. Watching Saagar and Krystal has been a pleasant experience. They cover every aspect of the story. I have always been a huge fan of Saagar but I am starting to really like what Krystal stands for. I love this balanced approach in assessing every issue and being objective. It's the difference between watching a network, where the reporters are on a leash and watching Breaking Point, where they have no leash and can present issues more objectively.
I can't imagine the amount of pressure they are under from AIPAC/ADL/etc. I bet they are screaming at YT to bury this show with a bad algo. Notice that TikTok has completely changed their once their management was attacked.
It USED to be balanced news. Now it just like a platform. There are plenty of issues to make news. Now it’s all Isreal all the time. Why I unsubscribed. This will be my last BP. I hope they go back to original premise.
Disagree. Your takes have been heavily anti-Israel. It’s really hard to watch Krystal’s bias takes and I didn’t care for Saagar’s attitude during this segment.
I love how he made a point of saying "premium subscriber" but it amounted to absolute zero with you guys. Kudos to you for sticking to your principles.
Or they made a point of picking out that comment, out of the hundreds available to choose from.. precisely to illicit your "kudos" response. Make no mistake, Krystal & Saagar are chess players. You don't get to the White House Press Corp, MSNBC & The Hill being a nice populist who cares about people. Contemplate that, I mean, I could be wrong but I'm starting to smell something funny in the air.
@@HST33 I think a better way is to criticize what's being said instead of who's saying it. In this case, they said good things. Doesn't mean they won't ever say bad things. Complement people when they do good. It encourages them to do more good.
I think that Krystal is a Hamas sympathizer and is extremely antisemitic. I am actually at the point where I watch just to understand how truly absurd the pro-Hamas side has gotten
These two are about as crooked as crooked gets. Krystal is a cold calculating Democratic party operative and Saager is the token stooge who's main job is to agree with everything Krystal says.
Krystal And Saagar you are hitting it out of the park on this issue. Our blind support of Israel will not look good in the years to come. I will not vote for any candidate who does not take a fair minded/humanistic/honest stance on Israel.
Let me begin by saying that I'll keep rooting for the show, I think it's a must for journalism. That said, I made my mind a while back with your foreign policy views, they are naive and weak. This conflict is not the exception. Happy new year btw!!!
Agree, I eventually unsubscribed due to constantly dropping the ball on foreign policy. The “isolationism over everything” mindset sounds great until you realize if these two were on the air in 1944 they would be in favor of letting the Germans win WWII because it’s not “America’s problem.” It’s extraordinarily myopic and they never have someone on that actually challenges them on this view.
and the facts are clear. "Palestine" is a myth. if there was a people calling themselves "Palestinians", even the Turkish Ottoman Empire would have had official documents for a group of people called Palestinians living in what is today's Israel/Judea. or the Bible and even the Quran would have mentioned "Palestinians" because both these books actually mention lots of ancient people and countries. but there is zero mention of Palestine. ancient Philistines have ZERO in common with today's people that are just Arabs.
@@LevisH21 You do understand the fact that, by definition, Palestinians and Arabic people are a Semitic people. I am also sure that, using your arguments, that the Bible, Quran, did not mention any such nation as the United States of America. The problem is that the world has changed exponentially from what it was 1500 to 2000 years ago. The fact is, that now, in the modern world, there is such a thing as the Palestinian people and indeed Palestine. Your points and arguments are an irrelevance.
@@LevisH21 you are wrong read the history before the Ottoman Empire and you will find the name of Palestine and for your information Jesus was born in Palestine and it is in the holy bible
@@doc636 you make me vomit with your ignorance. Jesus was born in Judea. the Roman Empire changed the name of Judea into Syria Palestina in 135 AD, basically 100 years after Jesus's death. Jesus was Jewish with direct blood Link to King David, the one that built the Temple in Jerusalem and the city itself in fact.
The problem with their coverage is that Krystal reports anything coming from Hamas as facts and anything coming from Israel as propaganda. Also, is she seriously claiming that only Palestinians are dying right now and that the IDF isn’t suffering any losses with this comment? “All of the action and the killing is happening on one side of the equation”.
Exactly Thank you. She’s been biased with this whole conflict and doesn’t realize it. It’s okay to be critical of Israel but she takes everything Hamas and the other side says as facts. She’ll occasionally throw in there that October 7th was bad and then go full on Israel hate.
So as of Day 82, Palestinians killed by IDF: 29,124; 26,706 civilans, 11,422 Children, and 5820 Women. There are also about 8000 missing people under the rubble. Israeli media is reporting that 401 IDF have been killed. Lastly 101 Journalists have been killed.
All your comment shows is that you’re not interested in facts…you just want a channel to reinforce your bias and bigotry against Muslims and Arabs. By the way, a large number of Palestinians being killed are also Christians.
krystal discussing a claim made by hamas: “now this is from hamas so take it with a grain of salt”, then presents it as likely true. krystal discussing a claim by israel: “everything they say is a lie.” Im not “pro-israel” but there is clear bias in krystals coverage, in how she treats the credibility of sources. I’m not threatening to quit either….love you guys! But calling it like i see it.
Perhaps what you see as biased is based in fact. The IDF has been shown time and time again that they use the threat of ha Mas as a scapegoat. Examples being Al Shefa hospital, the journalist a couple years back that was shot by a sniper and IDf blamed ha mas, the snipe and killing of any protesters then calling them ha mas. In contrast the gazan ministry of health may technically be run by the Hamas government, but it has historically been very accurate in deaths from past conflicts. This accuracy is seen when compared to Official UN figures after the fact.
The coverage on Israel has not been balanced. I have consumed hours and hours of content on the war in Israel and it’s fair to say that Krystal is very pro Palestine. That’s okay, but let’s not pretend it isn’t a pro Palestine perspective.
Maybe it's because Israel has a lot more military capabilities than Hamas? Yes, Hamas rockets are fired indiscriminately, but the that's because they are crudely built and mostly ineffectual. When Israel drops their US supplied bombs, they know exactly where they are going and still killing mostly civilians.
People are perfectly capable of leaving if they dont like you. I did and you were my #1. I came here from the title. I disagree with you but thats our rights.
No and you’re defensiveness is informing what you should be talking about. It’s not a genocide by any legitimate academic or legal categorization. You’re hyperbole of real war crimes serves no one and that is our criticism. Can you just give us the news without five minutes of editorializing on things you know nothing about? Maybe the Arab-Israeli Perspective? Or Fatah? Or anyone other than a liberal arts professor?
Yeah they're the best. Like when, right up until Russian troops were actually pouring into Ukraine, they were insisting there will be no invasion and it's all just CIA propaganda. Or when they both defended the catastrophic capitulation and withdrawal from Afghanistan, including the abandonment of billions of dollars of military equipment to the Taliban. Or their utter silence when the predictable trampling of women's and girls' rights occurred. Or their grotesque anti-Israel bias, any criticism of which they defend against by whining that they have a right of free speech (e.g. Enjeti in this video, as if anyone is trying to censor them). Dishonest hustlers to the core, always posturing as presenting some amazing alternative to the bogeyman of "mainstream media", from which they nevertheless derive 90% of their stories and information. Only the poorly educated or the not very bright or both watch this regularly.
Your coverage of the Hamas-Israel war is the exact reason I unsubsribed. Saagar's take is usually fair and balanced, but Krystal is almost never fair or balanced in my opinion. She's just a pain to listen to every time.
These guys were amazing on rogan then went completely downhill, krystal has become the conspiracy karen, saagar atleast tries to fake being objective. This is now the young turks show.
If someone mildly criticizes ISR or calls for peace and an end to the killing of innocent children and babies, he's called HMS supporter. This game is being played to silence those who oppose this war that is both brutal and unjust.
If someone mildly criticizes ISR or calls for peace, he's called an HMS supporter. This game is being played to silence those who oppose this war, which is both brutal and unjust.
It's great to see you guys stand for your values and not bow down to paid subscribers and allow them to gate keep what you can say. You're one of the few media sources that can speak the truth. The last thing we need is the Censorship to creep into these sites too.
Saager seams like he wants to push back on Krystal’s wacko takes but then shuts down the second she says she disagrees with him. Saager, Grow some balls bro..
Didn't America consider it back then and were afraid of exactly what is happening right now over there? I wonder if they knew about their behavior at that time.
That's a really a good point actually. If pro-Israeli Americans want there to be an Israeli nation-state so bad, they should give them one of theirs! Texas, Florida, Mississipi, Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina.... Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Deleware, I could go on; a plethora of US states would make a GREAT "New Israel". AND Zionists would finally have their New Jerusalem
Actually reading back on it now....makes more sense why they didn't. The Jews would not be happy being moved away to another country that is far away from their holy land.
Stopped listening to K&S after she takes every opportunity to bash Israel, Completely lacking any balance or neutrality. She takes every Hamas talking point as if it’s produced by a credible agency.
I think what Chad might be noticing is a direct result of Krystal doing more of the war pieces recently, whereas Sagaar is focusing on other things. If they were both sharing coverage more equally we would see more equally see the difference in their perspective
Agree. Interviews like the one with Norm Finkelstein, it can't be just Krystal interviewing him without challenging him anything. Either Saagar and Krystal both interview him, or they should have Saagar to solo Norm just to get more critical questions. If what Norm said was true and without omiting anything that goes against his narrative, it doesn't matter how hard he is being challenged, facts still remain. On another note, I still find the comment section very inorganic and Bot-like whenever Norm Finkelstein is on the show. Hope Krystal and Saagar would looking into it with Google RUclips and address it.
@@desmondmanhinleung7132agree with OP and your comment as well. Well stated. Krystal and Saagar have stated they want to bring something new to news media in reporting on all aspects of a story, rather than only what corporate funders want. Have to be very careful on including personal opinions/political perspectives with the news. You definitely want to show how others might read an issue, but I think it's a very narrow line to tread. It can very quickly divert into opinions which aren't always supported by accurate facts.
@cdkablan5677 Not sure why you are coming up with this quote, but the original post is saying both Saagar and Krystal should have spend equal or similar amount of time on this topic, rather than just Krystal weighing more of her narratives into the war. Regardless, journalists should present both side of the story, and be careful with projecting their own opinions into the issue. It doesn't matter what the Israeli authorities say on what should be covered, and it doesn't matter what the Palestinians say neither.
Really appreciate this response. As someone who has been critical of Krystal’s stance I do respect her stating it consistently. I feel perhaps Sagaar could have been more vocal about his disagreement with Krystal’s opinion but hey not my show. Also I feel people who comment are not necessarily trolls but perhaps folks who really appreciate the years of content but happen to find this issue not so surprisingly incredibly divisive.
I think the biggest criticism is that everyone knows that Krystal is pro Palestine and is really biased on the issue but you don’t really offer any pushback at all . No one talking about Oct 7 . I have heard more about the Palestine perspective but not really much about the Israeli perspective and why they do the things they do other than some right wing nut who wants to do something crazy and won’t happen.
@@user-ry3nb9lp4b I never said she was pro Hamas . I think she has her own biases on the issue but I don’t think she supports Hamas. I just think she is misinformed on a lot of the history and listens to crank like uncle norm.
@@user-ry3nb9lp4b i don’t care really care who has the media favor. I’m talking about objectivity and how it’s affecting the news people act like Israel is attacking Gaza and they are facing attacks from Hamas as well. They still continue to launch rockets into Israel and no reports that. People say Israel controls the water and electricity Israel only controls 10 percent of the water not all of it and they get half of their electricity from Israel because Egypt doesn’t supply more electricity into the Gaza Strip unlike Israel.
Was awesome seeing you two hold your own as well as stand for the team as a whole, recognizing Counterpoints as a true part of the BP family. I continue to hope that the BP sphere expands ever further into RUclips. There are a lot of fantastic commentators out there that deserve your platform.
The problem with a state policy that says "we will just keep killing people and destroying things until we feel better" has a tendency to fail due to the boomerang effect.
Study your history. You cannot find anyplace where Palestine is a nation, state or country. That land never belonged to them. They never liked Israel becoming a state.
Anytime I hear this “the stakes are too high for you to question the official narrative” nonsense, I’m reminded of the WMD/Iraq lies. The stakes are never too high to raise questions….
imagine thinking you are "morally consistent" (Krystal) talking about 'some group is doing genocide' (zero legal basis in international law) and you are defensive of a group with 'genocide' written into their founding doctrine (Palestine/Hamas) and their major error is failing to commit their own genocide successfully; in life there are no take-backs or do overs; how about if you are morally consistent then you be consistent: let Hammurabi and tribal warfare settle the argument because that is the basis by which the region operates...it's not even the correct religion for 'turn the other cheek'
He's 100% consistent. Even if I don't agree with him, he is consistent with his principles. Krystal fluctuate based on who she thinks should win....which is based on who is lower on her mental totem pole@@soliel5680
Keep up the good work, any American Not advocating freedom for anyone human being should just go and move to Russia or Israel and leave us free people is an abysmal reflection of what the God of Abrahamian actually says about Life. Funny the bible I read was about this liberal name Jesus who loves the world, I guess that is also why the Israelites wandered the desert for 40 years YES 40 years for their arrogance of their God, not my story, there story.
@@CitizenPoe I thank you for your views you little jewish agent of influence you.Is shitting on polish people like Seth McFarlane and Howard Stern constantly do considered antisemitism or is this just bullcrap made up word?Like i said thank you little agent of influence for exposing yourself.
It's great to have Krystal and Saagar and Breaking Points reporting the news without the corporate filters and political agenda that the majority of network and cable news employs.
@@aaronhrynyk Krystal did not buy the Russiagate hoax, which is all MSNBC talked about for 4 years, being the most obvious difference. She is paid by viewers and will actually debunk corporate talking points instead of peddling them. If you like Pete Buttigieg, watch MSNBC. If you think Bernie folded like a cheap lawn chair, here you are.
You guys are truth tellers The Israel Palestine issue is not a balanced issue It’s an oppressor oppressed issue If you were covering nazi germany should you cover the Nazi perspective because you had Nazi subscribers? Please don’t succumb to that kind of pressure. Continue telling the truth. Continue doing honest reporting and journalism.
I appreciate this segment as I have been the most critical on the coverage of the war in Israel appearing to be bias toward Gaza. And the response to the criticism was a good one. The best source of news to date and has helped me looked at Israel with more critical eyes.
Couldn't disagree more. The response was terrible. Krystal is insane and empty-headed as usual, and Saagar continues to deflect and cower: Point 1# "Our government is funding Israel." While true, American tax dollars, in the form of aid, fund HAMAS. HAMAS took money and resources that were for the Palestinian people and converted those resources into weapons and tunnel systems at the US taxpayer's expense. The Palestinian government, HAMAS, used those resources to commit an act of military aggression on Oct 7th. Yet, Krystal is silent. Point #2 You can't steelman Israel's position. That is insane. You could at least try. As an opinion journalist you should be able to generate....opinions. It would be easy to say something like," The Islamist-political organization HAMAS coordinated military operations with the budding Iranian nuclear power that has vowed to exterminate all Jewish people and the West for decades. The military operation conducted by HAMAS on Oct 7th indicates their commitment to the promise of extermination, so Israel felt obligated to defend itself from future annihilation, right or wrong." She didn't even try to answer the question. Why do you think that is? Point #3: Krystal equivocates the killings on Oct 7th to the Gazans who are fleeing. The only reason Israel is fighting in heavily populated areas is because HAMAS built its military infrastructure into civilian areas!!! 2.2 million Gazans are fleeing because HAMAS used them as human shields. Also, Oct 7th was a military operation that intentionally targeted innocent civilians for murder or abduction. This has all been admitted on VIDEO!!!! Sheesh...she is a dope. Seeing comments like yours, like you found something useful in the punditry, is heartbreaking. If I have missed something or my logic is clouded, please clear things up for me.
@@totallyshamanistic Although I disagree with you on many of your points regarding Israel, I completely agree with you that their response to a good faith question from a subscriber was pretty awful. One of the reasons I stopped subscribing to this show was it started becoming just predictable hot takes from both of them, and their response here sounded like: "Don't like my hot take? Leave then." It's been pretty difficult to get a perspective that doesn't feel completely one-sided (and by the way, one-sided doesn't necessarily mean "wrong"), but the closest I've found is Ezra Klein's show, surprisingly.
@@totallyshamanisticFew basics. Hamas got funding with the blessing of Israel. Either way, who funded Hamas doesn't justify Israel's indiscriminate bombing, targeting of civilian infrastructure and prevention of humanitarian aid. Whether Iran has nuclear weapons or funds Hamas doesn't justify Israel's crimes. I can add a few more AIPAC talking points. The Arabic neighbours won't take Palestinians. Hamas leadership are billionaires. Hamas uses human shields. Hamas uses civilian infrastructure for their bases. Israel can't lift the blockade because they would be attacked. Palestinians want to genocide Israel. Blah blah blah. None of it matters. Israel is currently commiting hideous war crimes that are killing thousands and soon to be tens of thousands of kids. Sorry, Israel is being evil at the moment.
@@betwana yeah...I got busy and stopped listening to the show about a year ago. Recently, I came back to check in. Sadly, I've been disappointed. I think you've diagnosed my disappointment well. Interesting recommendation though. I'll check it out. I appreciate your thoughts! And btw, you haven't heard half of my thoughts. If this is the only comment of mine that you've come across, then consider yourself lucky!
@@totallyshamanistic If you think Deep State US and Israel have no clue about where the money is going then you still have no idea what is going on. And if you still think, after many prior warnings given to Netanyahu that the attacks just happened by themselves you need to do some historical research including all the events leading up to the Oct 7th Hamas attacks. These two quotes will give you a big hint. “We need to tell the truth,” Israeli major general Gershon Hacohen, an associate of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, said in a 2019 TV interview. “Netanyahu’s strategy is to prevent the option of two states, so he is turning Hamas into his closest partner. Openly Hamas is an enemy. Covertly, it’s an ally.” Former elite Dutch banker Ronald Bernard who worked with Governments, Intelligence Agencies and Terrorist organizations, "They are actually all friends on the same side. Everybody thinks there are opposites like good and bad guys in the world, but on the higher levels it is just a game and they are all working together. There are about 8,000-8,500 people who run the entire world. You also have governments to deal with, multinationals, you have to deal with secret services, and what they now call terrorist organizations. You get all of those groups that are involved with the big money as clients, then you start seeing the connections. So they might be compartmentalized regarding knowledge, but because I am in the middle I see how they relate to another; you see the money coming from this place, then going to that place, etc. You keep gaining information and thereby overview of what is really going on."
Krystal keeps saying the reason why she's so critical of Israel and not Palestine is that our tax dollars fund Israel. But the UN funds Palestine, and the US is the biggest donor to the UN. So we're funding both. And clearly, Israel does a much better job spending the money we give them on defending and bettering the lives of its citizens, so that's money much better spent. So if we're giving money to both, it's just a question of who someone WANTS to hold accountable. It's clear that when Krystal actually talks to someone who can deal in specific facts (like RFK) Krystal has no good solution, and 90% of her brain power on this issue is just generating excuses for why she spends so much time criticizing Israel and 0 time actually looking at how to actually deal with Hamas. Sagaar's point that they covered Oct 7, and most of the action now is Israeli is well taken... but the way Israel's actions is framed in your coverage is biased. For example, Krystal says what Israel is doing is a genocide. Actually, quite literally, it's not. Genocide is "the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group." Palestinian is neither an ethic group (the ethnicity is Arabs, and Arabs can and do live peacefully in) nor a nation (because their government, Hamas has turned down the 2 state solution in favor of a charter that includes exterminating Jews... which actually would be genocide). What is occurring is an on-going military occupation. So this is not just "coverage"; this is constant editorializing and opining that is the problem. The solution is not covering Israel less, or being more favorable, it's just not doing what every airheaded MSNBC or Fox News anchor does and spend more time in BS takes than actual coverage of the facts. Furthermore, all the criticism of Israel is rather meaningless without one key component you're missing: and actual end goal. I disagree strongly with Israel's approach, and probably would lean into a much more radically "leftist" solution than Krystal. I would agree with Krystal that Israel's current approach is likely to produce more terrorists. However, the striking difference between our positions is that I actually spend time thinking about what would actually deal with Hamas. Krystal doesn't think about this for a moment. She levies criticism after moral condemnation of Israel... but to each criticism, you can ask: "Will this stop Hamas?" and she has no answer for it. Without an answer, all Krystal's criticisms boil down to a belief that Israel should just put up with Hamas killing Israeli citizens and try not to provoke them. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and assume she's not doing this because she intentionally hates Jews. This reminds me VERY much of the behavior of teachers at my elementary school. People like Krystal form double standards, taking out their frustrations on how they feel they can control ("we give them money, so they should do what we say"), avoiding the real problem ("let's ignore that we also give Palestine lots of money, because we can't control Hamas"), and then complaining to the world at large about how awful it is that it keeps happening. Here's how it played out in my elementary school. The teachers would lecture the entire class on how we were the worst grade they'd ever had, there's so much bullying, etc. However, when a bully was picking on a kid and the kid reacted *in any way emotionally,* the teacher would send the kid they were picking on to the office. I don't know what the calculus was in the teachers head. Probably something like "Well the bully's a lost cause / I'm used to the bully acting out... but I'm ALARMED that this well-behaved kid is making a fuss. That's not normal, I need to straighten them out immediately." The message received by the bullies, however was, "Do whatever you like," and by the rest of us was "Teachers don't give a sh*t about you." I really don't care what Krystal has to say about Israel until she can spend one minute talking intelligently about how to handle Hamas. Sure, cover what Israel does, but if your solution is that Israel should just accept that Palestine is going to bake some Israeli babies every so often... I really don't care what your moral feeling on the subject is. You don't have a solution, shut up and stop opining as if you do.
To be fair, about that first point, since October 7th the reporting does give the impression of a single-sided conflict, where there is only one military force engaged in action, namely the IDF. I haven't seen it mentioned a lot that Hamas has been firing rockets at Israel for the past 2 months as well. Of course there's no comparison with what Israel is doing to Gaza, but at least I did have the impression for some time that Hamas had done oct. 7th and since then it was only Israel wreaking havoc on Gaza, which is not entirely accurate either.
I just want to get this straight.. are you comparing one of the world’s top militaries armed by a super power unleashing thousands of tons of bombs including white phosphorous with a group of 20 year olds living under siege for the past 20 years and all their lives under occupation.. who throw a few man made “missiles”?
Yeah the reason you don’t hear about it is because well… there’s a genocide going on and Israel is the overwhelming aggressor… there is no equivalency whatsoever… not in their military might nor consequently in their actions.
If being pro-Israel means agreeing with every single thing Israel does regardless of how destructive and egregious, with no criticism or consequence, then that's a problem. We don't even deal with our loved ones that way.
Imagine being pro apartheid South Africa. Or pro Nazi germany
Being pro-Israel is just being pro-imperialism. The idea that there are “two sides” to this conflict is absurd.
@renetorres3568Israel is bombing the refugees it displaced to create the country. What do you mean pro Israel or pro Palestine? I’m against genocide and settler colonialism and apartheid because I am pro human. Zionism is an anti human ideology
False equivalence.
Well legally speaking we HAVE to be pro Israel now... It's antisemitic if we disagree
Thank you for standing your ground. Subscribers can unsubscribe, but not censor. The minute you allow yourself to be censored by yourself or others, you will be just another useless media outlet. We are here because you are beholden to no one and nothing but your own conscience and understanding. Keep it up. We are extremely grateful for your service to us.
I don't support this channel because I agree with everything Krystal and Saagar say. I support this channel because I agree with 80% of what they say.
@@TimBitts649yep! It's always a great day to not be in a cult! 😂
@@TimBitts649 Yep yep. I wouldn't go as Hugh as 80% but I do like to hear a diversity of opinion and just generally keep up with the news of the day. Even if I don't agree with what they say about Israel storming a hospital, it's good to know they did in fact storm a hospital.
fair comment, thx @@alinac5512
Platforming Finkelstein is enough to unsubscribe. I didn't but I'll admit I don't watch as much especially when I it's a Krystal vid. Just way too progressive for my taste. The most I can say is that they're honest.
Sagar going into a 5 minute critical analysis on cargo pants finally leading to a nuanced view on fashion as a whole is the most Sagar-like thing he could’ve done to end the year. Cheers mate!
Saagar is a fashionista ?!? He was waaaay to into that discussion lol 😆 luv it
It’s hilarious how passionate he gets about the clothing conversations. It’s nice to have a bit of levity after covering very serious topics.
You are all reeetarded
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It's so sad that he did that just to come to the wrong conclusion. No one is asking for a million more October 7th videos. But when you talk about anti Palestinian rhetoric at home, when by the numbers there is a higher increase in anti semitism, that shows your bias. When you don't have on a single guest who isn't leaning neutral like Jacko or totally pro Hamas, that shows bias. When you make a whole video about BB calling this conflict a holy war, but don't talk about the Hamas charter or the fact that Islam calls for Sharia law when Muslims are the majority in the country which is anti progressive in every way, that shows your bias. It's bad when it's so obvious to someone on the outside, but they are both oblivious to it. They can't possibly believe they are being fair and impartial while Krystal says there's no both sidesing genocide. So now both sides believe it's a genocide? That's not true because I'm actually watching both sides. It's clear there's one side here. The big issue is lying about it.
Their analysis on public sentiment shifting depending on whether Biden said it or trump is frankly terrifying and very telling about the tribalistic nature our democracy has become.
it's also extremely important. a lot of normie libs / vote blue no matter who gang think they're morally superior just by opposing trump; but they have absolute blinders on when it comes to biden (or any "centrist" democrat) doing the absolute worst things.
i hate trump as much as any other non-american, but there's a reason the republicans can even elect such an insane demagogue in the first place: it's the ratchet effect enabled by "moderate" democrats.
if normie libs can't self-critique, then they're as much a part of the problem as the fascists they criticise.
Yeah except it’s wrong. If trump were in office the major media would still be pro Israel because they own them as well as the politicians. Why else couldn’t out journalist see for themselves the situation in Gaza without the IDF combing over the footage and allowing only what they wanted to be released? Our politicians and major media have severely discredited themselves by unequivocally supporting a genocide.
If you want the Israeli perspective. The Israeli government is allowed to hold a daily press conference on Fox Live every day. Which is still nuts. That a foreign government can do that.
Yep. This conflict is being covered by the mainstream media from an ISR perspective throughout the US, Europe, Canada, and Australia.
On every US news channel tbh. Mark Regev has been on ABC, CNN, MSNBC, etc. like every other day 😅
If they're viewers want to see the Israeli government description of events, there shouldn't be a problem. UKRAINE Zelensky is constantly on CNN AND MSNBC
@@mandingogrande9243So why are they complaining on the Pro Palestine angle? So it's fine if it is Israel but outrageous if it is Palestine?
Fox is Pro Life and Pro Genocide !
"There are not two sides in a genocide."
Well said.
Except there is when one side's (Hamas) entire identity and government is dedicated to the elimination of the other side (Israel), the one side (Hamas) has attacked over, and over, and over again and refused all reasonable cessation of violence agreements in the past including self-governance and statehood agreements if they would just stop constantly attacking. And the side who is supposedly being "genocided" started things off with one of the most hideous displays of mans inhumanity towards man in modern times but didn't have the tech, numbers, or power to stay in the fight for more than a few hours of civilian slaughtering before crawling back in their hidey-holes and pretending to be innocent Gazan citizens until the next opportunity to attack arises. Krystal and Chompers are just wrong on this one. The Palestinians have had numerous opportunities to just let it go and begin to set their own destiny. Tge rest of the world has all been willing to help them if it means peace but at every single turn they have chosen violence. How long exactly do you expect Israel to put up with the daily rocket attacks and occasional suicide bombers? Would you live that way? It has to stop. It just has to stop and I really don't care how at this point.
Except this isn’t a genocide
@@triplea7536 Why do you say it's not? Also, I think it's pretty unfair that IZ labels every criticism of their militant nationalism "antisemitic".
There are international definitions of genocide and this checks every boxes. You can deny reality all you want, you’re still a cheerleader for genocide. You.
One side is clearly antisemitic and the other side is clearly trying not to flatten 2million people in an afternoon.
You wanted unbiased news and now you’re all crying because the unbiased news is pointing to a clear and uncomfortable answer for you. Sheeesh.
How can you possibly watch this show for any amount of time and believe they are unbiased? There is no such thing as unbiased. They may seem unbiased because they are feeding you what you want to hear.
@@WapitalismandWreedomjust like FakeIsrael has been for decades
The lack of historic knowledge is the main gripe to have with these guys. They need a deeper level of knowledge, especially Krystal.
This. Absolutely this.
Why don't they have somebody like Benny Morris to explain the complicated contradictory and absurd history of this conflict.
I’m a Jew living in Boston and your coverage has been essential to my sanity.
Israel is making the world unsafe for Jews and Rabbis 😢
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Thanks Boston, we love you. Keep up the good work, any American Not advocating freedom for anyone human being should just go and move to Russia or Israel and leave us free people is an abysmal reflection of what the God of Abrahamian actually says about Life. Funny the bible I read was about this liberal name Jesus who loves the world, I guess that is also why the Israelites wandered the desert for 40 years YES 40 years for their arrogance of their God, not my story, there story.
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@@robtheaccountantwell I wouldn’t recommend to go to fakeisrael
In my daily life I don’t give people blind allegiance why should I be expected to do that as an American for Israel?
I wound not give one American dollar and sure as hell not one American life to save Israel.
@manuelmedranoii5810 You shouldn't give blind alliance. That is why we have a moral obligation to educate ourselves and produce the best quality of action for yourself, your family, and your community over time.
So, your observation seems more like a criticism of your own character. Fine, you don't give your blind allegiance to Israel, but this is the most pressing geopolitical question of our era. Maybe you should meditate on your emptiness, and not just espouse vague platitudes.
To whom do you give your alliance? What would you die for?
@@totallyshamanistic Well I sure as hell don’t give any allegiance to a nation who demands we take part in their genocide. There, does that help?
@@totallyshamanistic Your pompous comment is empty and vague, not my comment. Your shallow critique reaches no one. Your point is moot. Moving on.
@@UnPocoLoco1120 i see. you stand nowhere and with no one, but it's my fault. ✌
It’s not y’all being pro Israel. It’s Krystal being so overly anti Israel. She can’t be unbiased and it’s really sickening.
I want to be so powerless that I can pour pressure on ANYONE that dares asks questions I'd rather not be asked.
There must have been significant backlash for the weekly response video to be made public. We are living through a post 9/11 world again where people get insanely outraged at you for just being consistent on having an anti-war stance. It's like most of us learned nothing the past 2 decades.
That isn't correct. Hamas is using their population as human shields. And Hamas started the war. You can't claim to be anti-war under these conditions unless you are delusional.
Having an anti war stance is ideal. Reality is Krystal was not speaking about the attacks on October 7 with the same passion she speaks about the response.
@Radioghost717 that might be because the atrocities against Palestinians has been ongoing, even now. Has also been proven that the isreali government has killed a few the hostages taken so even they don't really have concern for their own citizens.
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Absolutely nothing…💥
The funniest thing about K and S is that they are both such clothes horses. 😂
I, for one, appreciate their enthusiasm for their shared interest. I think it's endearing.
I'm looking forward to Krystal's spring collection.
I wonder if puffy sleeves will be in again 🤔
Krystal is hit and miss, and some misses r big misses
If you want to know why BP viewers might be frustrated over the coverage of the Israeli-Hamas war, here’s some quick math. I just scrolled back through the past two weeks of BP RUclips posts on the conflict and there were zero with a guest or report speaking from an Israeli perspective, there were 4 posts totaling 51 minutes that were more general reporting, and then there were 15 posts totaling 400 minutes, or 6 hours and 40 minutes, that were blatant pro Palestine guests or reports that painted Israel negatively. I honestly don’t mind getting content from both perspectives because there are two sides to every war, but this has been nearly completely one-sided as of late. And I don’t care to hear outright Israeli propaganda anymore than I want to hear Hamas propaganda, but at least have someone on to give a perspective. For example, several times in BP reports the percentage of Israeli people who favor IDF actions or even feel they haven’t done enough was thrown out by Krystal and suggested as a clear example of how Israelis are just evil and genocidal. Well, have someone on to explain why the Israeli population feels that way, such as the years of Palestinian suicide bombers or tens of thousands of rocket and mortar attacks on Israel from the Gaza Strip since 2001, or the 9,500 rocket, mortar or drone attacks on Israel from Gaza just in a little over a month after Oct. 7. Those don’t get covered because thankfully for Israel’s sake they are often rather primitive and ineffective, but they happen, they show a clear intent and desire to kill Israelis, any Israelis since these by no stretch are guided munitions, and that has to wear on the Israeli people. I think the Israelis know if the military capabilities in the region were reversed, they would all be dead, so they aren’t opposed to any actions that prevent that from happening. Perspective, that’s all. Share more about why Israel feels justified in doing what they’re doing, and then let viewers agree or not, instead of just guest after guest and report after report about how Israel is bad.
Your response is well thought out and articulate. Thank you for taking the time. Israel is having an understandably emotional reaction to an atrocity. However, I feel it is ultimately failing to accomplish any of their actual goals other than the need for revenge and this comes at the expense of tens of thousands of innocents, which is repugnant and makes clear the Israelis see Palestinian civilians as second class citizens not worthy of being allowed to live simply for having the bad luck of living in Gaza at this point in time. When you have scores of israeli officials making their goal clear and the bombs killing dozens of innocents daily, forgive me, but I don't give a shit what their justification for evil is...its still evil regardless whether it has an understandable emotional motivation.
I am pro American and I think there are more important American news story. Israel is overshadowing all the shows.
Very well said. I’ve been feeling the same way. I don’t listen to the Israel coverage from BP because I know what they’re going to say. Israel bad, period. I get it, they think Israel bad. But I would love to hear an Israel point of view. Why do pro Israel people feel the way they do? Understanding how someone with an opposing opinion got there is the first step to finding common ground. I feel completely uninformed in this area because I’m only getting one point of view from BP.
Yes and we can add to this the scrutiny they place on all Israeli and idf information whereas they use the Hamas and PLA information and data in their narrativisation of the conflict. I am not saying all the Israeli information or data is accurate but it comes across as disingenuous when you will only do this with one side and not the other. They may caveat the info from hamas but they still do incorporate it into the content where as they do not do the same with the information coming from Israel.
I'd love to see some more moderate perspectives about this from guests who are knowledgeable of of region and the conflict.
Israel is committing textbook genocide and ethnic cleansing amongst other war crimes. Would you suggest both sidesing Germany's/Hitler's war crimes? Think about it. SMH
I do agree with the sentiment of the first question. Its only one-sided and they aren't really covering it fully, its just pro Palestine view. You don't have to be pro Israel, but at least own your owb bias. Krystal has done 90% of the coverage, so thats really the only perspective and she is pretty far left.
Sagaar: “Anytime we cover this, we can’t be expected to say ‘Remember October 7th.’”
Krystal anytime she covers Trump: “Remember January 6th.”
Sure, genocide is bad. But, what about the feelings of the perpetrators? Nobody likes being called mean names while killing 2.2 million people.
If you are naive enough to believe Norm Finkelstein's take than you can understand Krystal's stance on the situation.
What's wrong about Norman Finkelstein's take?
@@camelopardalis84nothing... He is a wonderful man that provides facts.
I am guessing you also have a problem with Miko Peled, Illan Pappe and Dr. Gabor Mate.
@@jayneyaghmour7320 I replied to you several hours ago. Did you ever see that reply? Do you see it in your notification box?
Please bless us naives with your lifetime of scholarship
As someone who has also been slightly turned off by Breaking Points coverage of this conflict, I can tell you that a lack of constant sympathy for the victims of 10/6 is not what the issue here is. Personally my biggest issue with all of these harsh Israel critics is, what's your purposed alternative solution? You seem to be very keen on being critical of Israel's response to October 6th, but like virtually all critics, you offer no potential solution. In Krystal and Saagar's opinion, what is the correct way forward for dealing with Palestine and Hamas? And sorry, I don't want to hear "I'm not a general and I don't know anything about war." You know enough to be strong critics, so propose something of substance, or ATLEAST admit the fact that you have NO CLUE how to solve this issue, JUST LIKE THE REST OF US.
Maybe there should be more talk about solutions
But it is easy to see what is wrong with Israels response unless you are predisposed to a certain view .
The actions of the IDF show them to be more about making Gaza uninhabitable than any military objective .
Solutions ? Would be resolving the problem by offering fair solutions , not creating another 2 generations who will hate Israel and be willing to die for revenge for what is going on right now .
Talking about real solutions feels naive right now because Israel is not interested and the US seems unwilling to exert influence
There are Israelis that are calling out what their Gov is doing and being far more critical than a lot in the US, esp the politicians.
People really don't know that just shy of 50% of Israelis were against Bibi BEFORE 10/7
Lies. Overwhelming majority of Israelis support their genocide against Palestinians. Israeli Jews are mad at Netanyahu for other reasons.
This is correct & a lot of Israelis have been calling out their gov't long before the Oct 7th attacks on how the Palestinians are treated. The Netanyahu led gov't is a full-on far right gov't.
A small amount of Israelis are to the left....
Most are right wing, Nazi-like.
"A lot". Dude, like 80% of Israelis are good with completely removing the Palestinians from Gaza. You are 100% misreading the situation.
you guys are doing an awesome job, don't fall for the financial blackmail 🙌
In the words of Elon musk. . . .
Financial blackmail? Is the threat of losing one subscriber financial blackmail?
jewish terrorists often try to use this tactic@@susanmiller7560
Blackmail. They are already doing the establishment interests. These guys love the Covid jab.
@@susanmiller7560yes I am sure there will be many others that think the same also
I'm not a big supporter of this channel, in general. But I 100% support your question the humanitarian crimes being committed. The world will never forget what has happened in the Gaza. NEVER. The world has changed, We have all changed. The monsters are in charge of the worlds most dangerous weapons. Shame on those that don't understand what is happening. There is no going back now.
Krystal cannot admit that the goal of the Israeli advance in Gaza is to prevent Hamas from threatening Israel’s citizens, because to do so means Krystal would have to admit that she has been fundamentally wrong about the nature of the conflict, that Israel has been engaged in a defensive war from the beginning. So her only recourse is to define it as an offensive action with the goal of genocide, an Orwellian twisting of reality considering the stated goal and actions taken by Hamas.
Agreeing. They are missing so many elements of the story, adding I find them intellectually limited, especially Krystal, au ras des pâquerettes!
I can get the Israel POV from CNN to NPR to Clear Channel. The alternative view is what BP was supposed to be about.
Israel POV on NPR? Jeez. NPR is so far left that it hurts to listen longer than 2 minutes.
@@iLanFrid They get their money from the same MIC corporations that lobby for war.
What? No,,
I'm not sure what Israeli perspective we didn't hear in this channel, such as bibi saying he supports Hamas so there's no way to have a two state solution, or how majority israelis want to expel the Palestinians, or how only 1.8% israelis' think the IDF is being too brutal .... Like tell me which Israeli perspective we still need to hear.
@@middleagebrotips3454 I think that what you're saying is just the point
(of the pro-Israel side). Those are pro-Palestine talking points that make
the Israelis appear to be monsters. It could also be pointed out that a big
majority of Palestinians support Hamas and mass murder of Israelis. There, now things are a little more balanced.
The only reason I support you guys is I believe you try to be honest
I don’t agree with Saagar but sometimes his perspective is great to hear
Keep up the good work
What a phoney Ball is. Has she "covered" Hamas' charter, its aims, its jihadi philosophy? Do you have any idea how Israel should defend itself, other than clownish suggestions about a "two state solution" that turns East Jerusalem into Gaza? Then Enjeti whines that his right to say whatever he wants is being challenged, which is utterly disingenuous.
Ditto, but I don't agree with Krystal on most things
It's not that they were criticizing Israel. It's that they were criticizing Israel nonstop 24/7 and not even blinking an eye at Hamas, but instead, blindly repeating Hamas talking points.
It's pretty obvious that Krystal runs the show around here and that she is extremely anti-Israel.
Yup
Kudos for doubling down on your stance. But for me, it was a disappointing response. I understand being critical of one side can be deemed "pro-Israel/Hamas". My criticism of Breaking Points is how the news is being reported. Yes, all air attacks are done from Israel -- at this point -- but that is only one side of the war. They mentioned that they have not had any Palestinian people on their show and that, in fact, it is not fair to the Palestinians. I would encourage them to bring on more Palestinians to speak up. Ask the average Palestinian how they feel towards Hamas. Do they support Hamas? What are their feelings towards Jews? What have the Israelis done to harm them and their families? Don't give any guest (Israeli or Palestine) softball questions.
The reason why you had to respond to subscribers -- and make it the headline -- is because Krystal has hijacked the show to spew Palestinian propaganda. Do you think we are that dumb? "We are just reporting the war. And unfortunately, the war at this point is going to paint Israel negatively". But why are we not looking into why the majority of Palestinians SUPPORT Hamas and that Hamas's mission is to kill all Jews (it's in their constitution)?
I don't want "pro" anything I want the facts. The Palestinians are in an "open-air prison" because of their own actions (suicide bombings weekly in the 90s and 00s). Israel has been committing war crimes with a corrupt government. Tell us the whole story....not just Krystal's perspective.
Just so you know, I know Saagar thinks a lot of this is BS. I wish he would speak up and correct Krystal more often. I stopped watching about a month ago. I loved Breaking Points. I thought it was a show where two brilliant people came on to give us an honest take on the news. But Krystal has completely lost the plot with this story. You can tell her emotions have taken over at this point.
This is sooo true.
Nothing but facts said here
100% right.
Why don't you invite Caroline Glick or a pro-Israel historian for a discussion? if you can invite norman finkelstein, you can invite someone with a complete opposite view of the conflict.
It is not a matter of two equal opinions on the matter. Both sides are not right.
Caroline Glick is a biased propagandist and her opinions are the same sort of crap anyone can hear in the mainstream media. Israel is morally, legally, religiously and historically wrong. We need people to tell the truth not obscure the facts.
And then let them speak
Krystal wouldn’t allow that.
Oh shit actually responding to the audience. The mainstream NEVER does that
These people don’t either. You know how long it took them to actually do this???? They only did it on this one subject . What about all the other nonsense Krystal has lied about her audience has criticized her for???
@@lgroots8691 >> What about
Literally whataboutism, lol
@@mbg4681
Oh ok well then ignore that part of the comment little girl. Address the first half
@@mbg4681
Krystal was wrong about everything she reported during Covid….her audience told her for years now!!! Where’s her response to her audience in that??? How dare you defend this shit ass outlet
Selectively
Israel has subjected Palestinians to Oct. 7 for 75 years. Fact: Oct. 7 does not justify genocide.
Thank you for sticking to the truth, frankly I’m sick and tired of being called anti semitic for standing against slaughter of civilians!!!
Wouldnt worry about being called stuff. Its all they have let them get on with it. If it helps them to call me whatever they like i dont care, nothing will change the fact is damn right disgusting what there doing. Ive been called worse and no doubt will in the future, none of it changes anything.
Be less antisemitic then I guess?
@@CitizenPoe Use the word all u like. Ill listen just as much as i do to the stupid ass media.
@@CitizenPoe Are you really making the argument that opposing a genocide is anti-semitic?
@@SirNoxasKrad it’s war. Civilians die in war. Sucks, but that’s the deal. Also, where is your outrage about actual genocides in the world? How about Syria? How about China and its Muslims? Many other issues in the world. Why so focused on this? Should Israel just lie down and get slaughtered?
Keep telling the truth. The people depend on the honesty when the MSM has utterly failed us.
What truth are they telling??? Krystal constantly lies
@@lgroots8691can you give an example?
@porter9494 wait??? You think God saved the Israelis or helped them win any war?? Try my tax dollars, I am personally against all religions regardless of which one it is. However anybody who turns a blind eye to the slaughter of innocent children regardless of where they come from and calls themselves a "child of god" is not only a fool they are also a hypocrite
@@lgroots8691and yet here you are watching this video and commenting on it.
@@lgroots8691
Krystal Hamas.
I never comment on RUclips videos, but thought it important to do so here - when it comes to this issue you are one of very few reliably honest brokers of news. You are doing a great job.
You should go back to not commenting on RUclips videos - Krystal's opinion is not news.
Oh no……you should leave more comments. Maybe it’ll help you snap into reality. Krystal is horrible constantly giving misinformation…..
They’re doing dreadful. They’re being clear? This is a holocaust according to them, and you. Where is the Mengele, where is the Himmler, where are the mass graves? You get your numbers directly from the bad guys.
@@lgroots8691what mis information?
@@frankrosemeck9898hasbara crap getting triggered by truth lol
You have to admit that Krystal has very anti-israeli sentiments. That is quite obvious. She tries to put a spin on that but she can't and comes out very insincere.
When you say "Israeli" is there a distinction between government action and people in your mind?.
( I do believe she has Hardline stances against certain things but Israel I don't believe to be one of them)
"Put a spin on it" The actions of the Israeli gov't speaks for itself. Being critical of the Israeli gov't doesn't make you antisemitic and they are not above criticism especially when committing a genocide.
@@isiahmartin7510 her bias against israel is loud and clear
That means that she is A LOYAL AMERICAN.
@@stevensica89 no connection. being biased against israel doesn't make you a loyal american.
Never watched your show before RUclips started recommending non-stop anti-Israel videos from you. Haven't been impressed, and from the videos I've seen you are frequently searching for criticisms to the Israel narrative and then discounting it wholesale, and then buying the Hamas narrative with benefit of the doubt (not that I'm suggesting you shouldn't scrutinize either, but from what I've seen it's all scrutiny one way and all belief the other). Lots of folks yammer on about how he supposedly is silencing the Palestinian voices, but I think Piers Morgan has clearly been doing the best job of any media figure covering this. It's far more helpful to hear a diversity of voices hashing it out across many interviews than to just hear 2 people spout their own perspective over and over- that's hardly journalism. Piers clearly has his own perspective, but he at least is letting other perspectives be heard, rather than merely asserting his own editorialized stories all day long.
Glad you’re hearing from the people directly
@porter9494free from Israel and free from Zionism which is racism!✊
@porter9494 >> Мuzziеs
Gee, I wonder if you're going to have a balanced take on the issue.
>> lost the war.
So did Jews under Nazi Germany. Does that make it okay?
@porter9494 Spoken like a racist bigot that supports Apartheid Israel, Ethnic Cleansing and Genocide. ☠️ _Shame on you!_ About 10 000 children have now been massacred by Apartheid Israel. ☠️
@porter9494 muzzies 😂😂😂. Love using those on my arrows. Best broadhead for the money. Also early 2000s want their buzzword back
@@mbg4681the Palestinians have all of Jordan.
I am 78 years old, a U S Army veteran, a relatively educated person and I read from various sources to get as broad a view of important issues as is practical for me. All that is to say, I believe your coverage of the Israeli (U S funded and endorsed) military actions in Gaza and other civilian and military actions in the West Bank has been as objective as possible. It seems obvious to me that the Israeli genocide is well established by its government's officials words and its military actions. I appreciate your reporting.
The Case Against Israel - Professor Michael Neumann
"It seems obvious to me that the Israel genocide is well established by its government official's words and military actions". Really?
First, your veteran status confers no special insight into this conflict. Not sure why you brought that up.
Second, the only thing you have established is that you are NOT educated on this topic when you espouse views like the one quoted above. The genocide is "obvious"? That is a pretty extreme conclusion to draw when HAMAS and Iran publicly call for the genocide of Jews and the destruction of the state of Israel. This has been going on for decades, so I'm not sure what "various sources" you have been reading throughout your long 78 years, but you missed a pretty "obvious" component of this conflict.
Thank you for your service!
@@totallyshamanisticThis has become a tired, common tactic to "but Hamas and Iran...." without addressing the original point.
The question wasn't who did what first, or who called for what, we are talking about what is ACTUALLY HAPPENING.
If we operated solely on the words of politicians then we would always be at war. How many times has a US politician called to bomb a country into the stone age?
Hamas never had the power to wipe Israel off the map. But let's keep pretending as if this conflict came out of nowhere and Israel was just peacefully minding their own business.
@@totallyshamanistic The argument for Genocide can be made by comparing IDF operations in Gaza to the following references : Geneva Conventions amended Protocol I (signed in 1977) and when breached, definition of War crimes, genocide, etc. as seen in U.N. adopted “Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court” ( I encourage you to review Part 2, Article 8, section 2).
Please review the references mentioned above and provide some feedback if you can.
Support your takee on Israel. This isn't MSM
Krystal immediately starts the answer to their (really her) Israel coverage by saying we fund Israel and it is our taxes going to this effort…the US has given BILLIONS in aid to Palestine so why isn’t she critiquing that side when those funds are used to build rockets, bombs, and fund terror? Also, her repeating and agreeing with Finkelstein, “You can’t steel man a genocide,” is just intellectually dishonest. The definition of genocide is, “the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.” The fact she and so called intellectuals like Norman Finkelstein will call Israel genocidal but not even say something as simple that Hamas is a terrorist organization shows the level of dishonestly in everything that comes out of her mouth.
Mainstream media has always represented one side over the other and never shed light on the actual issues. Watching Saagar and Krystal has been a pleasant experience. They cover every aspect of the story. I have always been a huge fan of Saagar but I am starting to really like what Krystal stands for. I love this balanced approach in assessing every issue and being objective. It's the difference between watching a network, where the reporters are on a leash and watching Breaking Point, where they have no leash and can present issues more objectively.
Krystal Balanced? Really?
@@papichulo5552Yes. She is rational and intellectually honest.
I can't imagine the amount of pressure they are under from AIPAC/ADL/etc. I bet they are screaming at YT to bury this show with a bad algo. Notice that TikTok has completely changed their once their management was attacked.
It USED to be balanced news. Now it just like a platform. There are plenty of issues to make news. Now it’s all Isreal all the time. Why I unsubscribed. This will be my last BP. I hope they go back to original premise.
@@papichulo5552gaslighting 🤡
Nothing but hasbera bot accounts promoting and justifying cruel savagery at a level none of us has ever witnessed in live time
Disagree. Your takes have been heavily anti-Israel. It’s really hard to watch Krystal’s bias takes and I didn’t care for Saagar’s attitude during this segment.
Whoever is trying to defend Israel… cmon now.
**( SO, °Hammas Then .???)** 😮
Thanks for your sustained reporting on the horrors occurring in Gaza.
I love how he made a point of saying "premium subscriber" but it amounted to absolute zero with you guys. Kudos to you for sticking to your principles.
Or they made a point of picking out that comment, out of the hundreds available to choose from.. precisely to illicit your "kudos" response. Make no mistake, Krystal & Saagar are chess players. You don't get to the White House Press Corp, MSNBC & The Hill being a nice populist who cares about people. Contemplate that, I mean, I could be wrong but I'm starting to smell something funny in the air.
@@HST33yeah lol they’re trying to bring in more premium subs to counteract the cancelled ones.
@@HST33 absolutely- Alex Jones just talked about this. You’re nailing it
@@HST33 I think a better way is to criticize what's being said instead of who's saying it. In this case, they said good things. Doesn't mean they won't ever say bad things. Complement people when they do good. It encourages them to do more good.
This is how you replace subscribers with different pov with the ones with the same pov, and turn into Alex Jones.
I think that Krystal is a Hamas sympathizer and is extremely antisemitic. I am actually at the point where I watch just to understand how truly absurd the pro-Hamas side has gotten
The only absurd and immoral side is that of Israel. Israel is the aggressor and it always has been
Thank you Krystal and Saagar for highlighting the real news and you are absolutely correct and even handed.
These two are about as crooked as crooked gets. Krystal is a cold calculating Democratic party operative and Saager is the token stooge who's main job is to agree with everything Krystal says.
They provide their own editorial views that often nothing to do with reality.
@@user-je4ct6fn9oHow so?
@anonymousonlineuser6543 So nobody cant criticize Israels atrocities?
you are one naive puppy
Krystal And Saagar you are hitting it out of the park on this issue. Our blind support of Israel will not look good in the years to come. I will not vote for any candidate who does not take a fair minded/humanistic/honest stance on Israel.
Sorry Chad "You can't both Sides a Genocide."😂
No but you can stop lying that a genocide is happening.
Let me begin by saying that I'll keep rooting for the show, I think it's a must for journalism. That said, I made my mind a while back with your foreign policy views, they are naive and weak. This conflict is not the exception. Happy new year btw!!!
We really are lucky, past generations never had such large platforms of dissent aside from religious congregations or a dimly lit tavern lol.
Agree, I eventually unsubscribed due to constantly dropping the ball on foreign policy. The “isolationism over everything” mindset sounds great until you realize if these two were on the air in 1944 they would be in favor of letting the Germans win WWII because it’s not “America’s problem.” It’s extraordinarily myopic and they never have someone on that actually challenges them on this view.
Israel needs to be held accountable
You don’t need to be pro Israel or pro Palestine just look at the facts and be pro justice
and the facts are clear.
"Palestine" is a myth.
if there was a people calling themselves "Palestinians", even the Turkish Ottoman Empire would have had official documents for a group of people called Palestinians living in what is today's Israel/Judea.
or the Bible and even the Quran would have mentioned "Palestinians" because both these books actually mention lots of ancient people and countries.
but there is zero mention of Palestine.
ancient Philistines have ZERO in common with today's people that are just Arabs.
none of that amounts to: therefore it is permissible to blow apart 10,000 children.
dude you're sick in the head
@@LevisH21 You do understand the fact that, by definition, Palestinians and Arabic people are a Semitic people.
I am also sure that, using your arguments, that the Bible, Quran, did not mention any such nation as the United States of America. The problem is that the world has changed exponentially from what it was 1500 to 2000 years ago. The fact is, that now, in the modern world, there is such a thing as the Palestinian people and indeed Palestine.
Your points and arguments are an irrelevance.
@@LevisH21 you are wrong read the history before the Ottoman Empire and you will find the name of Palestine and for your information Jesus was born in Palestine and it is in the holy bible
@@doc636 you make me vomit with your ignorance.
Jesus was born in Judea.
the Roman Empire changed the name of Judea into Syria Palestina in 135 AD, basically 100 years after Jesus's death.
Jesus was Jewish with direct blood Link to King David, the one that built the Temple in Jerusalem and the city itself in fact.
Don't apologize for your commentary. I love you guys and have been a fan since your rising days.
They never apologized, they answered viewer questions... Big difference.
They never talk about their Covid jab propaganda
@@deeznuts3145no because the entire planet wants to talk about the GENOCIDE NATION…aka fakeisrael
Somebody needs to explain to Krystal what a genocide actually is…
Most of the world is calling this a genocide.
@ruthpicon2203 because most of the media is ignorant and hardly anyone understands history.
The problem with their coverage is that Krystal reports anything coming from Hamas as facts and anything coming from Israel as propaganda. Also, is she seriously claiming that only Palestinians are dying right now and that the IDF isn’t suffering any losses with this comment? “All of the action and the killing is happening on one side of the equation”.
Exactly Thank you. She’s been biased with this whole conflict and doesn’t realize it. It’s okay to be critical of Israel but she takes everything Hamas and the other side says as facts. She’ll occasionally throw in there that October 7th was bad and then go full on Israel hate.
So as of Day 82, Palestinians killed by IDF: 29,124; 26,706 civilans, 11,422 Children, and
5820 Women. There are also about 8000 missing people under the rubble. Israeli media is reporting that 401 IDF have been killed. Lastly 101 Journalists have been killed.
I’m not going to lie. I left your platform because Krystal’s takes on Israel and sagger not fighting back and becoming her mouth piece
All your comment shows is that you’re not interested in facts…you just want a channel to reinforce your bias and bigotry against Muslims and Arabs. By the way, a large number of Palestinians being killed are also Christians.
I'm not gonna lie.... but you need to accept the truth may be inconvenient to you and lies we've all been told
krystal discussing a claim made by hamas: “now this is from hamas so take it with a grain of salt”, then presents it as likely true.
krystal discussing a claim by israel: “everything they say is a lie.”
Im not “pro-israel” but there is clear bias in krystals coverage, in how she treats the credibility of sources.
I’m not threatening to quit either….love you guys! But calling it like i see it.
You are right and it's been bugging me too
@@halflife352011Me too.
Perhaps what you see as biased is based in fact. The IDF has been shown time and time again that they use the threat of ha Mas as a scapegoat. Examples being Al Shefa hospital, the journalist a couple years back that was shot by a sniper and IDf blamed ha mas, the snipe and killing of any protesters then calling them ha mas.
In contrast the gazan ministry of health may technically be run by the Hamas government, but it has historically been very accurate in deaths from past conflicts. This accuracy is seen when compared to Official UN figures after the fact.
The coverage on Israel has not been balanced. I have consumed hours and hours of content on the war in Israel and it’s fair to say that Krystal is very pro Palestine. That’s okay, but let’s not pretend it isn’t a pro Palestine perspective.
Maybe it's because Israel has a lot more military capabilities than Hamas? Yes, Hamas rockets are fired indiscriminately, but the that's because they are crudely built and mostly ineffectual. When Israel drops their US supplied bombs, they know exactly where they are going and still killing mostly civilians.
Unfair in the other direction 😂😂😂😂😂 Krystal is delusional
Keep speaking the truth! Love you guys!
What an absolute class act of a news show. Keep up the good work.
Mad respect for you guys on reporting on facts no matter what side it’s for
People are perfectly capable of leaving if they dont like you. I did and you were my #1. I came here from the title. I disagree with you but thats our rights.
Keep up the good work .. Greetings from Ireland .. Free Palestine!
No and you’re defensiveness is informing what you should be talking about.
It’s not a genocide by any legitimate academic or legal categorization. You’re hyperbole of real war crimes serves no one and that is our criticism.
Can you just give us the news without five minutes of editorializing on things you know nothing about?
Maybe the Arab-Israeli Perspective? Or Fatah? Or anyone other than a liberal arts professor?
Israel can commit war crimes and genocide, but we're not allowed to criticise them?
If they did commit genocide. The question is which genus is being cided? I know it's just easier to repeat the nonsense you hear
Not when you overlook the rape and dismemberment of women or beheaded infants, no your criticism is invalid.
Those are lies. Proven to be lies by Israel.@@illcomplywithguncontrolone6149
🇵🇸 Free Palestine 🇵🇸. 🇵🇸 🇵🇸.@@illcomplywithguncontrolone6149
The coverage here is excellent. Great work.
No it’s not hahaha it’s never excellent here.
@@lgroots8691And yet ... here you are. 🤔
@@Daniel-yl5jl1bi6q
Ya bud listening to all sides of the news is important. Don’t feel to dumb though, you still have time
"You have confirmed all my bias, great work." There fixed it for you.
@@lgroots8691 At least I'm smart enough to spell "too" correctly. 🤓
There’s no boss just a team of people working together just to make the best news they can. That’s why you guys are the best
I don’t think their the best at all!
Yeah they're the best. Like when, right up until Russian troops were actually pouring into Ukraine, they were insisting there will be no invasion and it's all just CIA propaganda. Or when they both defended the catastrophic capitulation and withdrawal from Afghanistan, including the abandonment of billions of dollars of military equipment to the Taliban. Or their utter silence when the predictable trampling of women's and girls' rights occurred. Or their grotesque anti-Israel bias, any criticism of which they defend against by whining that they have a right of free speech (e.g. Enjeti in this video, as if anyone is trying to censor them). Dishonest hustlers to the core, always posturing as presenting some amazing alternative to the bogeyman of "mainstream media", from which they nevertheless derive 90% of their stories and information. Only the poorly educated or the not very bright or both watch this regularly.
@@SunVirtuous-vs8rwWho does it better?
Krystal is 100% the boss
@@MrTimberwolfsden To uneducated morons, certainly.
Your coverage of the Hamas-Israel war is the exact reason I unsubsribed. Saagar's take is usually fair and balanced, but Krystal is almost never fair or balanced in my opinion. She's just a pain to listen to every time.
The most honest coverage I've heard so far. Kudos.
I am so proud of you guys. Keep up the good work.
These guys were amazing on rogan then went completely downhill, krystal has become the conspiracy karen, saagar atleast tries to fake being objective. This is now the young turks show.
Great answer on the ridiculous question regarding being “pro-Hamas”.
Krystal Hamas.
@@winstonsyme5899 oh, how primitive you are… Poor thing
The framing of the attacks are infantile. Ignore it!
If someone mildly criticizes ISR or calls for peace and an end to the killing of innocent children and babies, he's called HMS supporter. This game is being played to silence those who oppose this war that is both brutal and unjust.
If someone mildly criticizes ISR or calls for peace, he's called an HMS supporter. This game is being played to silence those who oppose this war, which is both brutal and unjust.
It's great to see you guys stand for your values and not bow down to paid subscribers and allow them to gate keep what you can say. You're one of the few media sources that can speak the truth. The last thing we need is the Censorship to creep into these sites too.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 so glib it is funny
That’s why I am paying as a subscriber to support them. Need news we can trust.
Saager seams like he wants to push back on Krystal’s wacko takes but then shuts down the second she says she disagrees with him. Saager, Grow some balls bro..
All you Americans, if you love isreal, why don't you give it a state in your backyard.
Tell me you don't think Jews should exist without telling me you don't want Jews to exist.....
Didn't America consider it back then and were afraid of exactly what is happening right now over there? I wonder if they knew about their behavior at that time.
They literally did.
That's a really a good point actually. If pro-Israeli Americans want there to be an Israeli nation-state so bad, they should give them one of theirs!
Texas, Florida, Mississipi, Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina.... Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Deleware, I could go on; a plethora of US states would make a GREAT "New Israel".
AND Zionists would finally have their New Jerusalem
Actually reading back on it now....makes more sense why they didn't. The Jews would not be happy being moved away to another country that is far away from their holy land.
Stopped listening to K&S after she takes every opportunity to bash Israel, Completely lacking any balance or neutrality. She takes every Hamas talking point as if it’s produced by a credible agency.
I agree, seems like it's become her personal crusade, every episode for past few months have been about it now and she is outraged in every one
It’s almost like Israel wasn’t invaded.
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8:53 Wow we will..
I think what Chad might be noticing is a direct result of Krystal doing more of the war pieces recently, whereas Sagaar is focusing on other things. If they were both sharing coverage more equally we would see more equally see the difference in their perspective
I agree 💯percent.
Agree. Interviews like the one with Norm Finkelstein, it can't be just Krystal interviewing him without challenging him anything. Either Saagar and Krystal both interview him, or they should have Saagar to solo Norm just to get more critical questions. If what Norm said was true and without omiting anything that goes against his narrative, it doesn't matter how hard he is being challenged, facts still remain.
On another note, I still find the comment section very inorganic and Bot-like whenever Norm Finkelstein is on the show. Hope Krystal and Saagar would looking into it with Google RUclips and address it.
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@@desmondmanhinleung7132agree with OP and your comment as well. Well stated.
Krystal and Saagar have stated they want to bring something new to news media in reporting on all aspects of a story, rather than only what corporate funders want. Have to be very careful on including personal opinions/political perspectives with the news. You definitely want to show how others might read an issue, but I think it's a very narrow line to tread. It can very quickly divert into opinions which aren't always supported by accurate facts.
@cdkablan5677
Not sure why you are coming up with this quote, but the original post is saying both Saagar and Krystal should have spend equal or similar amount of time on this topic, rather than just Krystal weighing more of her narratives into the war.
Regardless, journalists should present both side of the story, and be careful with projecting their own opinions into the issue. It doesn't matter what the Israeli authorities say on what should be covered, and it doesn't matter what the Palestinians say neither.
This is why I watch you guys. Keep it up
Really appreciate this response. As someone who has been critical of Krystal’s stance I do respect her stating it consistently. I feel perhaps Sagaar could have been more vocal about his disagreement with Krystal’s opinion but hey not my show. Also I feel people who comment are not necessarily trolls but perhaps folks who really appreciate the years of content but happen to find this issue not so surprisingly incredibly divisive.
I think the biggest criticism is that everyone knows that Krystal is pro Palestine and is really biased on the issue but you don’t really offer any pushback at all . No one talking about Oct 7 . I have heard more about the Palestine perspective but not really much about the Israeli perspective and why they do the things they do other than some right wing nut who wants to do something crazy and won’t happen.
@@user-ry3nb9lp4b I never said she was pro Hamas . I think she has her own biases on the issue but I don’t think she supports Hamas. I just think she is misinformed on a lot of the history and listens to crank like uncle norm.
@@user-ry3nb9lp4b i don’t care really care who has the media favor. I’m talking about objectivity and how it’s affecting the news people act like Israel is attacking Gaza and they are facing attacks from Hamas as well. They still continue to launch rockets into Israel and no reports that. People say Israel controls the water and electricity Israel only controls 10 percent of the water not all of it and they get half of their electricity from Israel because Egypt doesn’t supply more electricity into the Gaza Strip unlike Israel.
Was awesome seeing you two hold your own as well as stand for the team as a whole, recognizing Counterpoints as a true part of the BP family. I continue to hope that the BP sphere expands ever further into RUclips. There are a lot of fantastic commentators out there that deserve your platform.
The problem with a state policy that says "we will just keep killing people and destroying things until we feel better" has a tendency to fail due to the boomerang effect.
Well if Hamas surrenders and frees the hostages they will stop
Study your history. You cannot find anyplace where Palestine is a nation, state or country. That land never belonged to them. They never liked Israel becoming a state.
Anytime I hear this “the stakes are too high for you to question the official narrative” nonsense, I’m reminded of the WMD/Iraq lies. The stakes are never too high to raise questions….
imagine thinking you are "morally consistent" (Krystal) talking about 'some group is doing genocide' (zero legal basis in international law) and you are defensive of a group with 'genocide' written into their founding doctrine (Palestine/Hamas) and their major error is failing to commit their own genocide successfully; in life there are no take-backs or do overs; how about if you are morally consistent then you be consistent: let Hammurabi and tribal warfare settle the argument because that is the basis by which the region operates...it's not even the correct religion for 'turn the other cheek'
I love Saagar as much as Krystal. They have their own unique style and that’s what makes this program so special
i love Saagars pearly white giant chompers!
How on earth do you like Krystal 🤔🤷🏻♂️
How on earth do you like Saagar?
He's 100% consistent. Even if I don't agree with him, he is consistent with his principles. Krystal fluctuate based on who she thinks should win....which is based on who is lower on her mental totem pole@@soliel5680
If Israel doesn’t think Palestine has a right to exist than I don’t think Israel has a right to exist.
Actually it's the other way around. Neither Hamas nor PLO recognize Israel right to exist
@@larisaagishtein1937 Because Israel doesn’t recognize Palestine’s right to not be colonized.
It's not the facts you say. It's the ones you leave out.
I absolutely love this, thanks for not bowing to pressure from either side of the aisle. Keep up the amazing work guys.
Keep up the good work, any American Not advocating freedom for anyone human being should just go and move to Russia or Israel and leave us free people is an abysmal reflection of what the God of Abrahamian actually says about Life. Funny the bible I read was about this liberal name Jesus who loves the world, I guess that is also why the Israelites wandered the desert for 40 years YES 40 years for their arrogance of their God, not my story, there story.
@@CitizenPoeJews Muslims and Christians were all from the same God of Abraham, regardless of Jews belief in Superiority.
@@CitizenPoe I thank you for your views you little jewish agent of influence you.Is shitting on polish people like Seth McFarlane and Howard Stern constantly do considered antisemitism or is this just bullcrap made up word?Like i said thank you little agent of influence for exposing yourself.
@@CitizenPoeIsrael is a fraud. Has been for decades! We ALL now GET IT
Bravo Saagar, your integrity and unity with Krystal are well appreciated!
Go to therapy buddy@@triplea7536
Why is Israel so untouchable when it comes to
Criticism? 🤦♂️
It's great to have Krystal and Saagar and Breaking Points reporting the news without the corporate filters and political agenda that the majority of network and cable news employs.
What’s the difference between Krystal and the entire msnbc lineup?
@@aaronhrynyk Apparently nothing.
@@aaronhrynyk Krystal did not buy the Russiagate hoax, which is all MSNBC talked about for 4 years, being the most obvious difference. She is paid by viewers and will actually debunk corporate talking points instead of peddling them. If you like Pete Buttigieg, watch MSNBC. If you think Bernie folded like a cheap lawn chair, here you are.
Maybe Saagar by Krystal always pushes democrat party lies when it comes to issues that could lead to any real change.
@@Aireck174 Like what?
You guys are truth tellers
The Israel Palestine issue is not a balanced issue
It’s an oppressor oppressed issue
If you were covering nazi germany should you cover the Nazi perspective because you had Nazi subscribers?
Please don’t succumb to that kind of pressure.
Continue telling the truth.
Continue doing honest reporting and journalism.
I appreciate this segment as I have been the most critical on the coverage of the war in Israel appearing to be bias toward Gaza. And the response to the criticism was a good one. The best source of news to date and has helped me looked at Israel with more critical eyes.
Couldn't disagree more. The response was terrible. Krystal is insane and empty-headed as usual, and Saagar continues to deflect and cower:
Point 1# "Our government is funding Israel." While true, American tax dollars, in the form of aid, fund HAMAS. HAMAS took money and resources that were for the Palestinian people and converted those resources into weapons and tunnel systems at the US taxpayer's expense. The Palestinian government, HAMAS, used those resources to commit an act of military aggression on Oct 7th. Yet, Krystal is silent.
Point #2 You can't steelman Israel's position. That is insane. You could at least try. As an opinion journalist you should be able to generate....opinions. It would be easy to say something like," The Islamist-political organization HAMAS coordinated military operations with the budding Iranian nuclear power that has vowed to exterminate all Jewish people and the West for decades. The military operation conducted by HAMAS on Oct 7th indicates their commitment to the promise of extermination, so Israel felt obligated to defend itself from future annihilation, right or wrong." She didn't even try to answer the question. Why do you think that is?
Point #3: Krystal equivocates the killings on Oct 7th to the Gazans who are fleeing. The only reason Israel is fighting in heavily populated areas is because HAMAS built its military infrastructure into civilian areas!!! 2.2 million Gazans are fleeing because HAMAS used them as human shields. Also, Oct 7th was a military operation that intentionally targeted innocent civilians for murder or abduction. This has all been admitted on VIDEO!!!! Sheesh...she is a dope.
Seeing comments like yours, like you found something useful in the punditry, is heartbreaking.
If I have missed something or my logic is clouded, please clear things up for me.
@@totallyshamanistic Although I disagree with you on many of your points regarding Israel, I completely agree with you that their response to a good faith question from a subscriber was pretty awful. One of the reasons I stopped subscribing to this show was it started becoming just predictable hot takes from both of them, and their response here sounded like: "Don't like my hot take? Leave then." It's been pretty difficult to get a perspective that doesn't feel completely one-sided (and by the way, one-sided doesn't necessarily mean "wrong"), but the closest I've found is Ezra Klein's show, surprisingly.
@@totallyshamanisticFew basics. Hamas got funding with the blessing of Israel. Either way, who funded Hamas doesn't justify Israel's indiscriminate bombing, targeting of civilian infrastructure and prevention of humanitarian aid.
Whether Iran has nuclear weapons or funds Hamas doesn't justify Israel's crimes.
I can add a few more AIPAC talking points. The Arabic neighbours won't take Palestinians. Hamas leadership are billionaires. Hamas uses human shields. Hamas uses civilian infrastructure for their bases. Israel can't lift the blockade because they would be attacked. Palestinians want to genocide Israel. Blah blah blah.
None of it matters. Israel is currently commiting hideous war crimes that are killing thousands and soon to be tens of thousands of kids. Sorry, Israel is being evil at the moment.
@@betwana yeah...I got busy and stopped listening to the show about a year ago. Recently, I came back to check in. Sadly, I've been disappointed. I think you've diagnosed my disappointment well.
Interesting recommendation though. I'll check it out. I appreciate your thoughts!
And btw, you haven't heard half of my thoughts. If this is the only comment of mine that you've come across, then consider yourself lucky!
@@totallyshamanistic If you think Deep State US and Israel have no clue about where the money is going then you still have no idea what is going on. And if you still think, after many prior warnings given to Netanyahu that the attacks just happened by themselves you need to do some historical research including all the events leading up to the Oct 7th Hamas attacks. These two quotes will give you a big hint. “We need to tell the truth,” Israeli major general Gershon Hacohen, an associate of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, said in a 2019 TV interview. “Netanyahu’s strategy is to prevent the option of two states, so he is turning Hamas into his closest partner. Openly Hamas is an enemy. Covertly, it’s an ally.” Former elite Dutch banker Ronald Bernard who worked with Governments, Intelligence Agencies and Terrorist organizations, "They are actually all friends on the same side. Everybody thinks there are opposites like good and bad guys in the world, but on the higher levels it is just a game and they are all working together. There are about 8,000-8,500 people who run the entire world. You also have governments to deal with, multinationals, you have to deal with secret services, and what they now call terrorist organizations. You get all of those groups that are involved with the big money as clients, then you start seeing the connections. So they might be compartmentalized regarding knowledge, but because I am in the middle I see how they relate to another; you see the money coming from this place, then going to that place, etc. You keep gaining information and thereby overview of what is really going on."
Krystal keeps saying the reason why she's so critical of Israel and not Palestine is that our tax dollars fund Israel. But the UN funds Palestine, and the US is the biggest donor to the UN. So we're funding both. And clearly, Israel does a much better job spending the money we give them on defending and bettering the lives of its citizens, so that's money much better spent. So if we're giving money to both, it's just a question of who someone WANTS to hold accountable.
It's clear that when Krystal actually talks to someone who can deal in specific facts (like RFK) Krystal has no good solution, and 90% of her brain power on this issue is just generating excuses for why she spends so much time criticizing Israel and 0 time actually looking at how to actually deal with Hamas.
Sagaar's point that they covered Oct 7, and most of the action now is Israeli is well taken... but the way Israel's actions is framed in your coverage is biased. For example, Krystal says what Israel is doing is a genocide. Actually, quite literally, it's not. Genocide is "the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group." Palestinian is neither an ethic group (the ethnicity is Arabs, and Arabs can and do live peacefully in) nor a nation (because their government, Hamas has turned down the 2 state solution in favor of a charter that includes exterminating Jews... which actually would be genocide). What is occurring is an on-going military occupation. So this is not just "coverage"; this is constant editorializing and opining that is the problem. The solution is not covering Israel less, or being more favorable, it's just not doing what every airheaded MSNBC or Fox News anchor does and spend more time in BS takes than actual coverage of the facts.
Furthermore, all the criticism of Israel is rather meaningless without one key component you're missing: and actual end goal. I disagree strongly with Israel's approach, and probably would lean into a much more radically "leftist" solution than Krystal. I would agree with Krystal that Israel's current approach is likely to produce more terrorists. However, the striking difference between our positions is that I actually spend time thinking about what would actually deal with Hamas. Krystal doesn't think about this for a moment. She levies criticism after moral condemnation of Israel... but to each criticism, you can ask: "Will this stop Hamas?" and she has no answer for it. Without an answer, all Krystal's criticisms boil down to a belief that Israel should just put up with Hamas killing Israeli citizens and try not to provoke them.
I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and assume she's not doing this because she intentionally hates Jews. This reminds me VERY much of the behavior of teachers at my elementary school. People like Krystal form double standards, taking out their frustrations on how they feel they can control ("we give them money, so they should do what we say"), avoiding the real problem ("let's ignore that we also give Palestine lots of money, because we can't control Hamas"), and then complaining to the world at large about how awful it is that it keeps happening.
Here's how it played out in my elementary school. The teachers would lecture the entire class on how we were the worst grade they'd ever had, there's so much bullying, etc. However, when a bully was picking on a kid and the kid reacted *in any way emotionally,* the teacher would send the kid they were picking on to the office. I don't know what the calculus was in the teachers head. Probably something like "Well the bully's a lost cause / I'm used to the bully acting out... but I'm ALARMED that this well-behaved kid is making a fuss. That's not normal, I need to straighten them out immediately." The message received by the bullies, however was, "Do whatever you like," and by the rest of us was "Teachers don't give a sh*t about you."
I really don't care what Krystal has to say about Israel until she can spend one minute talking intelligently about how to handle Hamas. Sure, cover what Israel does, but if your solution is that Israel should just accept that Palestine is going to bake some Israeli babies every so often... I really don't care what your moral feeling on the subject is. You don't have a solution, shut up and stop opining as if you do.
Nah your coverage of Israel hamas has led me to unsubscribe. Krystal’s emotional left lean has taken over the channel. Sad #unemotional_libertarian
Saagar: 'There is no boss here'
Krystal: Stops giggle. activates Homelander laser eyes...
Saagar: 'Except you! '😳
Krystal: De-activates laser eyes. 16:38
To be fair, about that first point, since October 7th the reporting does give the impression of a single-sided conflict, where there is only one military force engaged in action, namely the IDF. I haven't seen it mentioned a lot that Hamas has been firing rockets at Israel for the past 2 months as well. Of course there's no comparison with what Israel is doing to Gaza, but at least I did have the impression for some time that Hamas had done oct. 7th and since then it was only Israel wreaking havoc on Gaza, which is not entirely accurate either.
I just want to get this straight.. are you comparing one of the world’s top militaries armed by a super power unleashing thousands of tons of bombs including white phosphorous with a group of 20 year olds living under siege for the past 20 years and all their lives under occupation.. who throw a few man made “missiles”?
Yeah the reason you don’t hear about it is because well… there’s a genocide going on and Israel is the overwhelming aggressor… there is no equivalency whatsoever… not in their military might nor consequently in their actions.
Hamas doesent exist or their all doctors or children, havent you heard
Hamas is fighting an occupying force. Israel is doing the occupying. Rockets will not have the same significance in those contexts.