Stormcloak fans lets don't start trouble on the imperial song page lets go to the age of opression song page. Same for the imperials you don't want hate from us stop giveing it to us on our music pages. Amazing job Jeff Winner.
+Luke Turnbull And what RL Stormcloak sympathizers like to forget it that by "The Dominion", they mean their ARMIES, you know, the guys who will kill us all? Yes, the Empire lets a few Thalmor in Skyrim, but if they don't, they'll force their way in D:
All I will say is that this song has that Metalica like feel to it. This is amazing, especially to an epic skyrim fan such as myself. Your music: top notch awesome and total badass. You did good man.
The power in your voice...! That was exactly what this song needed to be perfect. I can't understand why it is not popular, because it's the best version on YT. Congratulations, and good luck.
The legion and the stormcloaks may be at odds. But just think, they both have a common enemy the aldmeri dominion. If skyrim and the empire were to remain on the same side for a while and "put up with" the ban of talos worship until their combined forces were strong enough they could crush the dominion. Afterwards they could leave the empire if they so wished still.
Dude, you really dont have to ask... man we love what you do man, its awesasmical, its amaizing, and more than anything, IT's EPIC!!!!! Greeting from Malaysia :D
FOR THE EMPIRE!!!! DEATH TO THE STORMCLOAKS!! Muito massa seu canal cara, as musicas ficam muito boas :D mandei seus vídeos para a maioria dos meus amigos todos gostaram, você é bom cara, sucesso ai pra você ;)
If you take the main quest to the thalmor ambassy, you'll find a file about Ulfric saying that he's a Thalmor's agent. Plus, Stormcloaks are racist who think that the only race that have the right to live are the Nords. Finally, if you talk to Tullius, Rikke or any Imperials, they will say to you that they don't like the Thalmor. The only ennemy in this game are the Thalmor, not the Empire. So many reasons that led me to join the Legion.
Jaxir Raywhisper it wasent unfair the king was just a noob and after you destroy one of stormclocks or empire you are the same pice of shit for any NPC ... i think they should make a DLC or MOD where you can kill both leaders and take over skyrim
UAU, apenas. Jeff Winner novamente provando sua versatilidade artística. Conheci seu trabalho incrível como vlogueiro (ao qual, não nego, sinto saudades!) e cada vez que entro no seu canal para assistir um clipe da retomada da sua carreira musical, sou agraciado com mais um trabalho fenomenal. Parabéns brother. MUITO FODA. Sucesso!
Why don't you and your traitor friends go back to Cyrodiil and lick your Elven Master's boots? I love his covers, even this one, and it comes from a Stormcloak.
+Maty Navarro Why don't you stay in your Skyrim-centric bubble and ignore the rest of Mundas? The Empire doesn't care about Skyrim, they're a little busy trying to prevent a mass genocide of humans through, and this is probably going to shock you, DIPLOMACY. They care more about all lives than just human lives, and going to war with the dominion will kill thousands of mer and men alike, as well as all non-mer in Tamriel if the Thalmor win, instead of a few dozen men every year.
Mano....Imperial de sangue e osso... "A MELHOR COVER" de age of aggression! Eu simplesmente vou divulgar seu vídeo, e vou por no toque do celular, parabéns mesmo nota 10, botou os outros no bolso... Long life the empire! Sem palavras!
nice combination between the acoustic guitar and the voice at the beginning,gives a medieval feel to the song,I also like the part where the drum starts and the guitar solo
If General Tullius can hold off the Stormcloaks with farmers, just wait for the 2nd war. The Dominion will shit themselves. Hopefully an imperial victory will happen, but knowing Bethesda....
Kinda got that mixed up lol.the empire allied with the thalmor who seeks to end Talos worship lol.me personally I could give a shit less about talos.if I see him I'll put an arrow in his knee for shits and giggles.but in alot of ways the stormcloaks are in the right.skyrim was originally settled by the nords and the empire is an invading force.sent by the thalmor to kill Talos worship.thalmore being the real enimy,empire just being mindless puppets.you get all this info at the last fight of the civil war quest.lore aside,sideing with the stormcloaks is the better way to get the jagged crown.and that is a very useful and powerful helm if you know how to use it.
I had to listen to more songs. --Jeff--you are very talented. Keep up with the AWSOME remixes. You and your crew should be known more publicly because ya'll have have talent that should be embraced. I love the vocals, the instrumentals, and the feeling of the remix being a fresh piece. Hard to find these days. Keep up the good work.
nossa!!! já vi pessoas com talento foda, mas nunca tinha visto gente com mais de um talento fodástico ao mesmo tempo, vc e seu guitarrista são fodas, edição muito boa, voz espetacular, meus parabéns jeff
+Vincent Macary until the Dark brotherhood get slaughtered by either the Penitus Oculatus or the Dragonborn which is the right way i am an imperial and i would choose to slaughter the DB
Think I'll make a new build just to sluaghter the emporer in the slowest and most painful way Skyrim will allow me.then I'll claim his soul and use it to make a god teir bow to kill all of his troops while sending the emporer as a dead thrall to help and when no more empire exists to speak of I'll take the emporer body and toss it in the falkreath home basement to feed the skeevers
And how would he make anything good again? by nuke all the other countries he consider a "terrorist"? LOL Both Trump and Bolsonaro here in Brazil just know talk, they only like to talk what stupid peope like you say.
notoriousbig3k actually... just the continent of tamriel. which has provinces, not countries. the rest of the planet Nirn is still unexplained by Bethesda's lore. Infact, the Nords themselves aren't even native to Tamriel, they came by boat and conquered the land with Ysgramore leading them against the native elves of Tamriel.
Hey Bethesda, I just realized somethin, age of aggression, and age of oppression are the exact same song but with very slightly different lyrics. #lazy
***** Was it actually said which came first? I just read on the wiki that it's more or less unknown. I just figured they were both based on a common folk tune, something nursery rhymes, church hymns, etc do a lot.
You know I think the reason the songs are so similar is to show that the stormcloaks and the empire are similar themselves think about it they both worship talos and hate elves the only difference here is... Tulius is a crap general army leader Ulfric is practically the next Talos in terms of battle strategy and the empire needs the Dragonborn to carry them in the war Stormcloaks for life
How do you figure about Tullius? The Civil War was one axe stroke away from ending before the appearance of the Dragonborn and the civil war remains a stalemate until the Dragonborn's intervention one way or another. Prior to that point, Tullius turned the tide for the Empire in Skyrim and masterminded the capture of Ulfric (Hadvar says this outright and Ralof implies it, iirc). That he was able to turn around a losing war and nearly win it after who know how long implies he's actually a good general. And in gameplay, their strategies are pretty much exactly the same. The story seems to be set up to where both Tullius and Ulfric are respectable and talented military commanders who are driven to a stalemate without the Dragonborn's intervention. Either a stroke of genius or the intervention of an extremely powerful third party (the dragonborn) is required to tip the scales one way or another. Literally. No dragonborn, no Alduin, Ulfric loses his head on the chopping block and the rebellion quietly gets its death knell in Helgen.
Well, it is a damn complex issue. Humanity's hope against the Thalmor aggression is to stand united- an effective Empire would be great at that; think Roman Empire under Octavian, Trajan or the like. However, the Empire is old, tired and corrupt- and hence weak. Much like the Roman one was in the 4th century. And they repress the ancient Nord ways at the behest of the Thalmor. This cannot be tolerated by the proud Nords, and perhaps it is time that "Nordic" nations were founded on the ruins of an old tired empire like they historically were in the 5th cenutry, nations that went on to conquer and dominate the world and stop the advance and intrusion of an alien (to them) religion threatening to conquer the world. The parallels are obvious. Skyrim must be independent and rise in power. On the other hand, the Nords themselves repress the Reachmen and are somewhat racist, and Ulfric is nothing but a power-hungry and ambitious upstart (though of course the backstory is more complex than that and he has reasons), who used underhanded means to win a duel and thus commited Nith and should be executed. And the rebellion only serves the purpose of the Thalmor; who seems to be behind it! If Humans kill each other in infighting and exhaust themselves; the road is open for their second attack. Much like East Rome and the Sassanids bled themselves dry against each other and were left open to the invading Arab armies of Islam in the 7th century, and much like the Great Powers of Europe exhausted themselves in WW1-2 and thus lost their world domination. So... what side should one join? I honestly cannot say here on my first run of the game and at lvl 33 I have not chosen yet.
Maybe it's a bit late to answer to a more than a year old post, but as the elders scrolls VI has been announced I recovered my old skyrim steam account, and I remember joining imperials on my very first adventure, and stormcloacks on the 2nd. Honestly as you said both have their reasons and if it's in terms of righteousness I would say the Nords deserve to rule their homeland but overall the imperials, despite their opressive rule are oddly kinda more "multicultural" as they incorporate other races in their army, whereas stormcloacks are the most racists after the Thalmors. Therefore it's a hard decision but I think the empire serves the greater good overall! And yes both factions are being manipulated by the elves, and they are pretty dumb not to join forces for a while, and probably nords would be aknowledged as good allies and left alone if they were to prove a strong ally…. But I guess just like in real life people are too stubborn and proud to set their personal goals aside and look at the forest instead of the tree. Thank you if you read the whole thing xD! And may Talos guide your path ;)
THIS is exactly why I love The Elder Scrolls! no other game series has made me second-guess my morals, decisions and affiliations as frequently, yet the whole, vast backstory feels plausible and natural. Really epic. On par with many works of literature imho.
Ulfric is and always was a self serving arrogant asshole. The way I see it unless you want the Thalmor to destroy a weakened Empire five years down the line then easily roll over the Stormcloaks too, you kill him as soon as possible.
Prkissymo WhyDoIHaveToFillThisShit well my khajiit is an imperial because that character knows that the empire is just being protective.... and yeah this may sound dumb but i put stories on each of my character just to feel the game yahh know.. xD
Ian Darabos hahaha.....Without being bias, I just felt that The stormcloaks version was better executed :D ......I favour neither the imperials nor the stormcloaks:)
EU TE ODEIO JEFF, TU NÃO SE CANSA DE HUMILHAR OS OUTROS?
TA PERFEITO CARA *-*
PQP MUITO BOM!
O que como assim o que vc ta fazendo aqui kkj
do nada KKKKKKKKKK
Aleatório sksk
Por essa eu não esperava akskaks
IMPERIAL VAGABUNDO
CLAP....
CLAP....
CLAP.....
...The security in whiterun is terrible. Shameful is what it is.
i love you
Only real gamers will understand this
Underrated...
way underrated comment
This man
The only shame is that this awesome piece of work doesnt have the views it deserves
@@JeffWinner i return
Stormcloak fans lets don't start trouble on the imperial song page lets go to the age of opression song page. Same for the imperials you don't want hate from us stop giveing it to us on our music pages. Amazing job Jeff Winner.
"What the rebels like to forget, is that the empire is what is keeping the dominion out of skyrim."
yeah i've heard that too
+Luke Turnbull And what RL Stormcloak sympathizers like to forget it that by "The Dominion", they mean their ARMIES, you know, the guys who will kill us all? Yes, the Empire lets a few Thalmor in Skyrim, but if they don't, they'll force their way in D:
+Luke Turnbull Not to mention most of the Skyrim's food comes from the Empire.
We will wipe out both the empire and the thalmor you filthy milkdrinker
To forsake the soul of your Empire, the Nords and Talos, to appease nazi elves, is to have already lost.
Your voice kind of sounds like the voice most of the male dark elves have, which makes this even better:)
am I the only one who think's
"killer of king's" sound's like a pretty sick title
not a stormcloak, btw
Like "Kingslayer"? :D *four years later*
"killer of king´s" definitely has a ring to it.
Its kind of like saying "motherfucker"
In both A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones and Elder Scrolls it means "backstabber".
**WITCHER INTENSIFIES**
All I will say is that this song has that Metalica like feel to it. This is amazing, especially to an epic skyrim fan such as myself. Your music: top notch awesome and total badass. You did good man.
And plus, ALL HAIL THE EMPIRE
Just when i thought skyrim was enough epic, i was wrong, then u come to make it more strongly epic.
***** awesome keep it up bro
1:17 oh my god. I can imagine a tavern full of Imperials singing that exact part. You've earned yourself a subscriber now :)
WHO IS LISTENING TO THIS IN 2017!!!! TRUE SONS OF SKYRIM DO!
Who is listening to this in 2018!!!!
2019 anyone?
@@sponge5196 2019
2020 bitch please
Mariann Olen 2020 BITCH!!
skyrim belongs to the nerds!!!!!!!!!
The power in your voice...! That was exactly what this song needed to be perfect. I can't understand why it is not popular, because it's the best version on YT. Congratulations, and good luck.
Foda pra caralho.
Viva o Império.
heard this almost 20 times today... straigth to my favourite list... like sir/lady surivall said nice work
sempre por aqui, amo essa versão
Only true Imperials liked this
Jen R. Yeah
FOR THE EMPIRE!!!!!
My ancestors are smiling at me, imperials. Can you say the same?
Peter Joseph yes we can
death to the empire
We're the children of Skyrim and we fight all our lives, and when Sovngarde beckons, everyone of us dies.
This guy is a genius. He litteraly did a cover for both songs then imperials and stormcloaks won't fight in the comments
Death to Ulfric
I enjoy all of your epic metal versions keep making them
Jeff, eu espero que você esteja sendo bem remunerado por essas obras primas!
+Joelma Rod ele é brasileiro ??
+Viktor Reznov ss
Jeff Winner Jeff winner é br? ?????????????
I'm so emotional when listening to this, I miss my adventures in Skyrim :)
The legion and the stormcloaks may be at odds. But just think, they both have a common enemy the aldmeri dominion. If skyrim and the empire were to remain on the same side for a while and "put up with" the ban of talos worship until their combined forces were strong enough they could crush the dominion. Afterwards they could leave the empire if they so wished still.
Yeah totally, but Skyrim belongs to the Empire!
Secret option C, Skyrim belongs to the Spriggans
Fallout_guy88 you do realise that all guards are Nords right?
Coming back a year later to tell you, i still listen to this masterpiece EVERY day when working out, love ya Jeff keep rocking on strong!!
Thanks ❤
I reaploaded the lost Video THE HOBBIT EPIC METAL.
ruclips.net/video/nMTfEdMsROA/видео.html
Como sempre muito foda meu caro! Te admiro pra caramba!
Um abraço do teu brother!
Oh my God, I am looking forward to listening The Age of Oppression.
Once again, great job bro.
Vocês mais uma vez, mandaram muiiito bem!
Força Jeff ! Você merece crescer !
Que som maravilhoso.
Great work man, you and your guys do the song so much justice. Keep up the great work brother.
You should do a classic version of your song !!!
Dude, you really dont have to ask... man we love what you do man, its awesasmical, its amaizing, and more than anything, IT's EPIC!!!!! Greeting from Malaysia :D
This gives me goosebumps.
Ikr?
AMAZING!!!! P.s. Love your Brazilan accent/twang on the lyrics :)
Long Live the Empire
Here here
Here here
Mega produção, muito bom Jeff! Parabéns pelo excelente trabalho!
FOR THE EMPIRE!!!! DEATH TO THE STORMCLOAKS!! Muito massa seu canal cara, as musicas ficam muito boas :D mandei seus vídeos para a maioria dos meus amigos todos gostaram, você é bom cara, sucesso ai pra você ;)
Jeff Winner+Skyrim!? This has to be the best thing on RUclips.
If you take the main quest to the thalmor ambassy, you'll find a file about Ulfric saying that he's a Thalmor's agent. Plus, Stormcloaks are racist who think that the only race that have the right to live are the Nords. Finally, if you talk to Tullius, Rikke or any Imperials, they will say to you that they don't like the Thalmor. The only ennemy in this game are the Thalmor, not the Empire. So many reasons that led me to join the Legion.
I dont know nothing about this, but the fact dragonborn actualy met the person ulfric murdered in unfair fight speak for itself.
yeah he is a dormant asset because the thalmor need to keep the civil war in a stalemate
Jaxir Raywhisper it wasent unfair the king was just a noob and after you destroy one of stormclocks or empire you are the same pice of shit for any NPC
... i think they should make a DLC or MOD where you can kill both leaders and take over skyrim
***** There is a mod that lets you become the high king on nexus.
Cyborguy L :O Are you a WIZARD? :D
That.....was....... Epic! You definitely gained a new sub, and long live the Empire!
Hail the Emperor, hail the Empire!!!
Maravilhoso!!!👍👍
UAU, apenas. Jeff Winner novamente provando sua versatilidade artística. Conheci seu trabalho incrível como vlogueiro (ao qual, não nego, sinto saudades!) e cada vez que entro no seu canal para assistir um clipe da retomada da sua carreira musical, sou agraciado com mais um trabalho fenomenal. Parabéns brother. MUITO FODA. Sucesso!
..la tua voce è una cosa meravigliosa !
....è sarcastico ...?
ok,......ma ognuno ha i suoi gusti,vivi e lascia vivere .scusa non voglio fare polemica.
...è bello vedere che ancora siamo capaci di essere "persone".
The most amazing thing is that you are brazilian. Oh, that's awesome. Really.
Down with the killer of kings!
Why don't you and your traitor friends go back to Cyrodiil and lick your Elven Master's boots?
I love his covers, even this one, and it comes from a Stormcloak.
+Maty Navarro Why don't you stay in your Skyrim-centric bubble and ignore the rest of Mundas? The Empire doesn't care about Skyrim, they're a little busy trying to prevent a mass genocide of humans through, and this is probably going to shock you, DIPLOMACY. They care more about all lives than just human lives, and going to war with the dominion will kill thousands of mer and men alike, as well as all non-mer in Tamriel if the Thalmor win, instead of a few dozen men every year.
Ulfric deserves to go to Savargarde
Mano....Imperial de sangue e osso... "A MELHOR COVER" de age of aggression! Eu simplesmente vou divulgar seu vídeo, e vou por no toque do celular, parabéns mesmo nota 10, botou os outros no bolso... Long life the empire! Sem palavras!
hail imperial legion hail emperor tidius mede 2
hail him no more ,his dead now :D
@@Auron447 spoilers
nice combination between the acoustic guitar and the voice at the beginning,gives a medieval feel to the song,I also like the part where the drum starts and the guitar solo
saporra me deu calafrio só de ouvir mano oloko :') q foda
Just stumbled across this on Spotify. Absolutely awesome man, I love it.
long live for the empire
you have to do that with a little more feeling
"FOOOAR THE EMMPIAAAAAA, TO GLOOOORY!!!!
TONIGHT, WE DINE IN SOVNGARDE!
Or Aetherius, depending on what your position on the war is.
Epic Return of Jeff!
Muito Boa, Belo Trabalho!
This is so much better than Malukah's.
Amazing! Both music and video were very well made! It feels good again to stand for the empire!
Who's still watching this is 2019? FOR THE EMPIRE! WE WILL DRIVE OUT THE ELVES AND REGAIN TALOS AS A GOD!
If General Tullius can hold off the Stormcloaks with farmers, just wait for the 2nd war. The Dominion will shit themselves. Hopefully an imperial victory will happen, but knowing Bethesda....
Kinda got that mixed up lol.the empire allied with the thalmor who seeks to end Talos worship lol.me personally I could give a shit less about talos.if I see him I'll put an arrow in his knee for shits and giggles.but in alot of ways the stormcloaks are in the right.skyrim was originally settled by the nords and the empire is an invading force.sent by the thalmor to kill Talos worship.thalmore being the real enimy,empire just being mindless puppets.you get all this info at the last fight of the civil war quest.lore aside,sideing with the stormcloaks is the better way to get the jagged crown.and that is a very useful and powerful helm if you know how to use it.
I had to listen to more songs. --Jeff--you are very talented. Keep up with the AWSOME remixes. You and your crew should be known more publicly because ya'll have have talent that should be embraced. I love the vocals, the instrumentals, and the feeling of the remix being a fresh piece. Hard to find these days. Keep up the good work.
Only true imperials request this one ... 🤘
nossa!!! já vi pessoas com talento foda, mas nunca tinha visto gente com mais de um talento fodástico ao mesmo tempo, vc e seu guitarrista são fodas, edição muito boa, voz espetacular, meus parabéns jeff
Long live the Emperor!! Long Live his Legionnaires!
+daniel bules Until the dark brotherhood comes.
+Vincent Macary until the Dark brotherhood get slaughtered by either the Penitus Oculatus or the Dragonborn which is the right way i am an imperial and i would choose to slaughter the DB
Algot Karlsson no... They will always return.
Think I'll make a new build just to sluaghter the emporer in the slowest and most painful way Skyrim will allow me.then I'll claim his soul and use it to make a god teir bow to kill all of his troops while sending the emporer as a dead thrall to help and when no more empire exists to speak of I'll take the emporer body and toss it in the falkreath home basement to feed the skeevers
@@richardpeterson3753 you should use that necromancy to revive your grammar
I'm an imperial at heart... my dad is independent, meaning he doesn't side with any side, we both like this song. Nice job bro.
34 stormcloaks disliked this video
Some of those dislikes were from Ulfric
Thank you very much for doing these songs! I've always wanted to hear an Epic Metal version ^^
98 Stormcloaks disliked this video
hahaha
50 dislikes were spammed by Ulfric.
Some of that could also be thalmor
XD
With our blood and our steel we will take back our home !
Skyrim will ultimately fail without the imperial economic and military resources
Amazing work!
along with some pretty epic Skyrim Gameplay. I Really enjoyed this song!
Hello, I'm Donald Trumpborn, and I'm here to make Skyrim great again. All I need is a small loan of a million Septims.
Huh, no.
And how would he make anything good again? by nuke all the other countries he consider a "terrorist"? LOL
Both Trump and Bolsonaro here in Brazil just know talk, they only like to talk what stupid peope like you say.
I don't think we have any Brazilians in Tamriel, but if I have to build another word wall I will.
are you gonna build a wall, and make cyrodill pay for it?
serio vc e br... se canta de mais
And none of the awkward pauses between lines! Awesome work!
FOR THE EMPIRE!!!.....FOR SKYRIM!!!
This is my favorite version of this song! Very well made
ALL HAIL THE EMPIRE!!! ALL HAIL THE THALMOR!!!!
ALL HAIL TO THE TITUS MEDEEEE!!!!
Nononono- Thalmor, that is quite unnecessary
Parabéns belíssimo trabalho!
SKYRIM BELONGS TO THE NORDS!!!!!111
Tell this to Gelebor
Parabéns Jeff,como sempre mostrando seu talento,Continue sempre assim,curti mt!!!
FOR THE IMPERIUM OF MAAAAAAN-Waaaait.....Wrong Empire...
Actually...the Empire of Tamriel is kinda the Empire of Man within Tamriel.
dude The Empire means all the countries
Elseweyr
Hammerfall
Morrowind
Orsinium
high rock
summerset isle
vallen wood
notoriousbig3k actually... just the continent of tamriel. which has provinces, not countries.
the rest of the planet Nirn is still unexplained by Bethesda's lore. Infact, the Nords themselves aren't even native to Tamriel, they came by boat and conquered the land with Ysgramore leading them against the native elves of Tamriel.
notoriousbig3k Technically just Cyrodill, High Rock and Skyrim (Contested)
NO TO THE ALMIGHTY CHAOS!!!!! NURGLE
tu é foda mano, valeu vc ajudou a voltar a jogar skyrim, que nostalgia...
WE LIVE FOR THE EMPIRE!!!!!!!!!
The talent is SUPERB....... Loved the video as well....
This one finds both versions very loveable, however khajiit support the empire.
This one has wares if you have the coin, skooma anyone.
Heh. Yes. Khajiit must have skooma. I'll buy any for 1000 septims.
Even though I can never really decide which side I side with this is one of my fav songs, and this was IMO executed perfectly!
Skyrim belongs to the stormclocks
Velho, a cada vídeo uma surpresa... boa claro ;) parabéns Jeff
HAIL THE EMPIRE!!!!!
I can give many reasons to join the empire, not 1 single reason to join the stoormcloacks!
nem lembro se ja comentei este video, mas é simplesmente incrível. Parabéns de novo, Jeff :)
Hey Bethesda, I just realized somethin, age of aggression, and age of oppression are the exact same song but with very slightly different lyrics. #lazy
***** Was it actually said which came first? I just read on the wiki that it's more or less unknown. I just figured they were both based on a common folk tune, something nursery rhymes, church hymns, etc do a lot.
You know I think the reason the songs are so similar is to show that the stormcloaks and the empire are similar themselves think about it they both worship talos and hate elves the only difference here is... Tulius is a crap general army leader Ulfric is practically the next Talos in terms of battle strategy and the empire needs the Dragonborn to carry them in the war Stormcloaks for life
How do you figure about Tullius? The Civil War was one axe stroke away from ending before the appearance of the Dragonborn and the civil war remains a stalemate until the Dragonborn's intervention one way or another. Prior to that point, Tullius turned the tide for the Empire in Skyrim and masterminded the capture of Ulfric (Hadvar says this outright and Ralof implies it, iirc). That he was able to turn around a losing war and nearly win it after who know how long implies he's actually a good general. And in gameplay, their strategies are pretty much exactly the same.
The story seems to be set up to where both Tullius and Ulfric are respectable and talented military commanders who are driven to a stalemate without the Dragonborn's intervention. Either a stroke of genius or the intervention of an extremely powerful third party (the dragonborn) is required to tip the scales one way or another.
Literally. No dragonborn, no Alduin, Ulfric loses his head on the chopping block and the rebellion quietly gets its death knell in Helgen.
+Lumer Arkenstone No shit
+Elechicken i see you are a stormcloak i am with the Empire so watch out
I'd definitely want a mod that used this for a Main Menu Replacement. This has such a calm start, but really breaks into the strong spirit of Skyrim.
Well, it is a damn complex issue. Humanity's hope against the Thalmor aggression is to stand united- an effective Empire would be great at that; think Roman Empire under Octavian, Trajan or the like. However, the Empire is old, tired and corrupt- and hence weak. Much like the Roman one was in the 4th century. And they repress the ancient Nord ways at the behest of the Thalmor. This cannot be tolerated by the proud Nords, and perhaps it is time that "Nordic" nations were founded on the ruins of an old tired empire like they historically were in the 5th cenutry, nations that went on to conquer and dominate the world and stop the advance and intrusion of an alien (to them) religion threatening to conquer the world.
The parallels are obvious. Skyrim must be independent and rise in power.
On the other hand, the Nords themselves repress the Reachmen and are somewhat racist, and Ulfric is nothing but a power-hungry and ambitious upstart (though of course the backstory is more complex than that and he has reasons), who used underhanded means to win a duel and thus commited Nith and should be executed. And the rebellion only serves the purpose of the Thalmor; who seems to be behind it! If Humans kill each other in infighting and exhaust themselves; the road is open for their second attack. Much like East Rome and the Sassanids bled themselves dry against each other and were left open to the invading Arab armies of Islam in the 7th century, and much like the Great Powers of Europe exhausted themselves in WW1-2 and thus lost their world domination.
So... what side should one join? I honestly cannot say here on my first run of the game and at lvl 33 I have not chosen yet.
Maybe it's a bit late to answer to a more than a year old post, but as the elders scrolls VI has been announced I recovered my old skyrim steam account, and I remember joining imperials on my very first adventure, and stormcloacks on the 2nd. Honestly as you said both have their reasons and if it's in terms of righteousness I would say the Nords deserve to rule their homeland but overall the imperials, despite their opressive rule are oddly kinda more "multicultural" as they incorporate other races in their army, whereas stormcloacks are the most racists after the Thalmors.
Therefore it's a hard decision but I think the empire serves the greater good overall! And yes both factions are being manipulated by the elves, and they are pretty dumb not to join forces for a while, and probably nords would be aknowledged as good allies and left alone if they were to prove a strong ally…. But I guess just like in real life people are too stubborn and proud to set their personal goals aside and look at the forest instead of the tree.
Thank you if you read the whole thing xD! And may Talos guide your path ;)
THIS is exactly why I love The Elder Scrolls! no other game series has made me second-guess my morals, decisions and affiliations as frequently, yet the whole, vast backstory feels plausible and natural.
Really epic. On par with many works of literature imho.
Very well done. Especially love the opening.
the singer has great dental hygiene !
Your version is the best I've heard by far.
A masterfully performed song, it is however blasphemous as Ulfrik is the one true king of Skyrim!
***** Glorious, just subbed, great songs! :)
hes just a xenophobic usurper!
Ulfric is and always was a self serving arrogant asshole. The way I see it unless you want the Thalmor to destroy a weakened Empire five years down the line then easily roll over the Stormcloaks too, you kill him as soon as possible.
Pow Jeff... assim nao da... toda vez que vejo seus videos sinto vontade de jogar Skyrim mais uma vez xDD Parabens pelo trabalho! Sucesso! =)
hah, you are all wrong. HAIL SITHIS!
Hail Nocturnal!
Sorry I killed all of DB for the emperor.....
Chakkrapong Rattanavong I did it because they kept sending assassins after me
I don't understand how there was no metal in the official soundtrack it's just so fitting. Awesome job \m/
73 Stormcloaks disliked that
81 now.. we need them out of our lands.
***** the song was good, I'm not sure why people would dislike it. Keep up the good work
I choose stormcloaks because the empire is evil and has many secret and for fcks sake they tried to cut my head just because of crossing the border
+KeshinAsura God of Madness go learn lore kid, then you come back and choose side, because all stuff you wrote is utter nonsene
Prkissymo WhyDoIHaveToFillThisShit well my khajiit is an imperial because that character knows that the empire is just being protective.... and yeah this may sound dumb but i put stories on each of my character just to feel the game yahh know.. xD
Saudade desse tipo de conteúdo 😢
Vou fazer um canal só para isso
Não vai demorar
Skyrim belongs to the empire
And the empire belongs to Skyrim
It belongs to it's people
And the empire sold it to the dominion
Desolation King Lol!? When did skyrim create the empire?! Tiber septim did, he was from cyrodiil. Learn the lore dude.
***** Tiber Septim was born on the island kingdom Alcaire
Muito bom Jeff , sempre um otimo trabalho!!!
Great song! The stormcloaks version is even better though :)
no way, fuck the stormcloacks
Ian Darabos
hahaha.....Without being bias, I just felt that The stormcloaks version was better executed :D ......I favour neither the imperials nor the stormcloaks:)
well pick a side you breton!
Ian Darabos death to the stormclocks!
***** Long live the Emperor!
Sempre gostei e gosto desse Jeff, nerd, músico, excelente cantor...