Since this video was so helpful, I'm going to add something for others that I've learned regarding the clutch orientation, since you really don't want to have to disassemble the clutch assembly after you learn you did it wrong. There are two tabs on the outer race of the clutch. One of those tabs has a dimple in the end of it. That dimple goes toward the front of the reel. Also the crenelated (slotted like the top of a castle wall) end of the clutch basket goes toward the front. (That may be obvious since the white plastic piece has to fit into those slots.)
My assembly on the pinion when all is put together is about 2/16 too tall and not flush with the body for the last piece, the 3 hole plate that secures the pinion . Is what you posted my mistake. Penn BTL 2 1000. Help.
Having done six of these now, here's something else that may be useful if the reel has never been opened before or it is winding quietly and without grind before starting. Penn does not follow the schematic exactly as far as shims and washers are concerned. On two of mine, there was no lower clutch washer installed and there were two washers where the upper clutch washer was supposed to be. Being OCD, I set everything according to the schematic and the reels became very noisy. So, take careful note of the number and location and, if possible, the thickness of each shim and washer and put them back exactly as you found them. I measured all the shims and washers that I took out of these reels and found thicknesses of 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 0.5, 0.8, and 1.00 mm. Sometimes Penn will use multiple shims or washers in place of one, but keep the total thickness the same. Cross shaft shims straight from Penn had actual thicknesses of 0.2 mm and the upper and lower clutch washers were 1.00 mm. But as I said, you may find the lower clutch washer missing entirely. Twice my upper clutch washer was replaced with a 0.2 mm and 0.8 mm washer pair.
Awesome detail and great tip about using the box! I have three suggestions, one is I would recommend using gloves especially when dealing with gas and grease. Second is clean any gas or grease residue off of the external part of the reel very well. Lastly make sure you thoroughly clean your hands before handling the reel bail, you do not want any petroleum products getting on your fishing line. Fish can pick up the slight scent, a few test have shown that petroleum products will keep fish away. Heck I won't even put on mosquito spray anywhere near my fishing gear. Again just my .02
Great video. I just cleaned my Battle 3 using this video as a guide. I definitely got all the gunk cleaned out of everything and put what I think is a good amount of grease all over the proper spots. The reel is definitely smoother than it was and it doesn’t stick in any particular spots as I turn the reel, but the whole thing just feels stiff. Almost like something is rubbing somewhere, causing a little bit of tension or friction when I’m reeling. The only thing I didn’t take apart completely was the bearings. I wonder if that’s causing the issue I’m having now.
You may have gotten one of those real thin washers in the wrong sequence in the stack or perhaps gotten two of them on the same end of a bearing or shaft causing the other end to rub on a non moving surface. Just some thoughts???
I been trying to assemble the pinion and the clutch race assembly, with your video ,it's a Penn BTL2 1000 very similar just less shims in some areas. So after multiple attempts the whole assembly ends up too tall so the last piece the 3-hole plate the one with the spring, it rests about 2/16 above the frame body and someone commented that race housing has to go a certain way. any help S.Radig
Performance wise I can't tell the difference, the Battle is better in Penn's claims. I have and use a bunch of Fierce II's even 8000 size cat fishing and they have performed great. For my money the Fierce is all I need. I think the new Fierce III's would be a great reel.
Do u have a email I could send a photo too now anti reverse don’t work spring ain’t issue I may of lost a part hard to tell from it video though can’t see if I’m missing part or not
I use old cloth to line the inside of the box. That keeps the parts from bouncing out of the box. A piece of an old sheet or t-shirt light in color works well.
Hehe - I hear you there. I will at least give it a try. Save some money and learn a new skill as long as I film it all so I don't forget what goes where ;)
Thanks, with your help I managed to stumble my way through doing a couple of them.
Good deal, thanks for watching.
Great video. Thanks for the info.
Maintenance is key to not having issues while in the fight of a lifetime!
Plus it’s keeps you out the house on cold days!
Since this video was so helpful, I'm going to add something for others that I've learned regarding the clutch orientation, since you really don't want to have to disassemble the clutch assembly after you learn you did it wrong. There are two tabs on the outer race of the clutch. One of those tabs has a dimple in the end of it. That dimple goes toward the front of the reel. Also the crenelated (slotted like the top of a castle wall) end of the clutch basket goes toward the front. (That may be obvious since the white plastic piece has to fit into those slots.)
Thanks for the info, I will make notes and if I do an update will include your information.
My assembly on the pinion when all is put together is about 2/16 too tall and not flush with the body for the last piece, the 3 hole plate that secures the pinion . Is what you posted my mistake. Penn BTL 2 1000. Help.
@@12babyapes59 Sorry, I don't know the 1000 or if it is different, or how.
Having done six of these now, here's something else that may be useful if the reel has never been opened before or it is winding quietly and without grind before starting. Penn does not follow the schematic exactly as far as shims and washers are concerned. On two of mine, there was no lower clutch washer installed and there were two washers where the upper clutch washer was supposed to be. Being OCD, I set everything according to the schematic and the reels became very noisy. So, take careful note of the number and location and, if possible, the thickness of each shim and washer and put them back exactly as you found them. I measured all the shims and washers that I took out of these reels and found thicknesses of 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 0.5, 0.8, and 1.00 mm. Sometimes Penn will use multiple shims or washers in place of one, but keep the total thickness the same. Cross shaft shims straight from Penn had actual thicknesses of 0.2 mm and the upper and lower clutch washers were 1.00 mm. But as I said, you may find the lower clutch washer missing entirely. Twice my upper clutch washer was replaced with a 0.2 mm and 0.8 mm washer pair.
Thanks again. I found a reel washer on the garage floor, Now I have to figure which reel and where it came from.
Awesome detail and great tip about using the box! I have three suggestions, one is I would recommend using gloves especially when dealing with gas and grease. Second is clean any gas or grease residue off of the external part of the reel very well. Lastly make sure you thoroughly clean your hands before handling the reel bail, you do not want any petroleum products getting on your fishing line. Fish can pick up the slight scent, a few test have shown that petroleum products will keep fish away. Heck I won't even put on mosquito spray anywhere near my fishing gear. Again just my .02
Good tips there, Thanks.
to add to your comment, never apply spray on sunscreen anywhere near your fishing line.
Bout halfway through I decided that dang thing would never back together correctly….. so I bought a new reel 😂
Been there before, several times.
Great video. I just cleaned my Battle 3 using this video as a guide. I definitely got all the gunk cleaned out of everything and put what I think is a good amount of grease all over the proper spots.
The reel is definitely smoother than it was and it doesn’t stick in any particular spots as I turn the reel, but the whole thing just feels stiff. Almost like something is rubbing somewhere, causing a little bit of tension or friction when I’m reeling.
The only thing I didn’t take apart completely was the bearings. I wonder if that’s causing the issue I’m having now.
Usually it is the bearings that give me the grief.
You may have gotten one of those real thin washers in the wrong sequence in the stack or perhaps gotten two of them on the same end of a bearing or shaft causing the other end to rub on a non moving surface. Just some thoughts???
Sometimes a bearing or two do need to be replaced. And do make sure you don't use too much grease. You only need a little.
Man now dats how you deep clean a reel, nice job 👍🏻👊🏻
Very nice video!
Thanks!
Excellent breakdown...thank you!
I been trying to assemble the pinion and the clutch race assembly, with your video ,it's a Penn BTL2 1000 very similar just less shims in some areas. So after multiple attempts the whole assembly ends up too tall so the last piece the 3-hole plate the one with the spring, it rests about 2/16 above the frame body and someone commented that race housing has to go a certain way. any help S.Radig
Not exactly sure of your problem but Penn has the reel schematic breakdown of the reels on line. Maybe that could help.
You said the Fierce and Battle are very similar. Could you compare the Battle and Fierce in terms of performance?
Performance wise I can't tell the difference, the Battle is better in Penn's claims. I have and use a bunch of Fierce II's even 8000 size cat fishing and they have performed great. For my money the Fierce is all I need. I think the new Fierce III's would be a great reel.
Thank you
Thank you for this. Very helpful!
It always amazes me how a tiny dropped screw can bounce completely out of the suspected work area and into a new zip code😫
Anytime you are working over your lawn/grass you are guaranteed to drop and lose something!
Thank you sir, you are a genius!
Nice video
Thanks
Do u have a email I could send a photo too now anti reverse don’t work spring ain’t issue I may of lost a part hard to tell from it video though can’t see if I’m missing part or not
Send me your contact e-mail and I can attach the schematic from Penn.
No way that screw just jumped out of the box 😂
I use old cloth to line the inside of the box. That keeps the parts from bouncing out of the box. A piece of an old sheet or t-shirt light in color works well.
yikes...I will just take mine to the shop
Hehe - I hear you there. I will at least give it a try. Save some money and learn a new skill as long as I film it all so I don't forget what goes where ;)
I'm with ya.
Very nice! Think I’ll give it a shot now 👌🏻👌🏻
how much for you to clean my reels. I'll ship it to you
I am flattered by your offer but I can hardly keep up with my boats and tackle as it is.
Well, I gotta say, I ain't breaking down my reel that far.
Gasoline lol I'd be high as a kite by the time I was done 😂😂😂
Lighter fluid will work plus they sell reel cleaner made just for this.
Please, please, stay in the camera field when making a video like this.