Ya, I preferred escape from LA better than New York. It felt more entertaining, more over the top. The story is very similar to New York, to the point where this feels not a sequel, but the final draft of the original. Yeah, the CG and sets look dated and fake, but so did New York.- and ya know with that said, maybe just maybe John carpenter was just trying to make a parody of the first film
Think for a moment about the movie Escape from LA. as a stand alone movie and forget Escape from NY for a moment .. (I've never seen the first one tbh).. It does not deserve such a bad review overall.. I love this movie .. very underrated. As long as you don't take it all too seriously of course... it's an entertaining film and very honest... It's in my top 30... And I have watched 100s / 1000’s of movies
escape from LA still makes no sense to me, escape from NY was iconic, and by the time of the sequel Carpenter was a legend, he could have easily got the funding needed to make a worthy sequel, yet he makes this joke of a movie, and i think joke is the best way to describe it, its not bad like they made mistakes, its bad like they went out of their way to make it stupid, i mean basketball?? its like they went out and made a movie just for people to make youtube videos making fun of it, like i said it makes no sense. what also makes no sense is why russell, who was huge, would agree to be in this.
I actually liked Escape From LA. True, the original is still better (and actually took itself seriously, which LA does not), but it has its moments. You can make an argument, really, that Escape from LA is kind of a parody of Escape From New York. Carpenter wanted to do a second sequel, which he tentatively titled Escape From Earth, but it never happened. Pity. Must say, however, that Stacy Keach is a poor substitute for the great Lee Van Cleef. I could take Van Cleef as a serious threat.
My favorite remakes are John Carpenter's The Thing, the 1978 version of Invasion of the Body Snatchers (I also like Abel Ferrara's Body Snatchers) and David Cronenberg's The Fly. Maybe the word "remake" isn't entirely correct to describe these movies. They're basically entirely new versions of the story on which the original movie was based (all these movies are based on a literary source). The Robert Rodriguez movie The Faculty (1998) is kind of an unofficial remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
That's a pretty impeccable list. Yeah, 'remake' isn't exactly accurate, I struggled with proper verbiage myself for the video. I don't mind revisiting the classics if: There's something worth saying about the characters/universe that wasn't already covered & The source material is respected.
The comment you made about Invasion of the Body Snatchers and communism seems to have never been properly posted... Probably RUclips, I have had issues with Cinema Slayer Reviews and comments as well. I was hoping it would appear after a day or two, but no, only the partial post in my notification bar remains.
@@rosettareviews6531 Yeah, I said that the 50's version seems to be about the threat of communism and the 1978 version is more about alienation in a big modern city. I like to think of the 70's version as the sci fi/horror version of paranoid 70's thrillers like The Parallax View and Three days of the Condor. The 90's version, Body Snatchers (directed by Abel Ferrara), is set on a military base where people already behave impersonally and robotically anyway. That's how you can make an interesting remake, by offering a fresh perspective on a story that we already know.
@@wimvanderstraeten6521 Yes, you nailed it. The Twilight Zone remake of "The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street" is a shining example of this. A new take on an old story. Sadly, we all know the incentive is cash, and there is a ton of easy money to be made strip mining people's nostalgia centers. Sorry about the technical issue, thanks for taking the time to repost. Certainly was worth it from my end.
Thanks Slayer, much appreciated! I'm trying to make them better, hopefully this trend continues. Unlike the comment trend, which could end yesterday, YT you listening? lol
@@rosettareviews6531 Hey wassup man, I do see your comments but for some reason they do not publish. This bull is happening to some other comments I notice as well. No clue why. But just wanted to let you know.
Maybe, just maybe, the movie subjects were way ahead of their time. Probably we didn't do it much Justice. Should rewatch it someday. However, the CGI is still ass.
The movie wasn't great but there have been worse sequels. It's just that the first movie was so great in comparison. It was obvious what Snake would do at the end, but that scene alone was worth the price of admission.
Great review. Love John Carpenter but Escape from New York isn’t even in my top 5 because it’s looks cool but it’s a long boring schlog. Even with low expectations I was ticked when I left the theatre after sitting thru this turd. Can’t understand why so many dopes say “ Rewatch it !! It’s good !! “ NO ... IT’S NOT “
Sorry but I couldn't disagree more. This is one of John Carpenter's most underrated and misunderstood movies imo. I wouldn't even think of comparing it to those garbage Disney Star Wars films. The movie is supposed to be silly, absurd, over-the-top and self referential which is what separates it from the first film. You aren't exactly supposed to take the movie that seriously. Making the movie more of a parody was a brilliant move by Carpenter but most fans just didn't get it I guess
Disney Star Wars is brilliant compared to EFLA. EFLA is one of the WORST films OAT and a slap in the face to Carpenter's fans. Absolute garbage. Beyond garbage. ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK was serious Cold War commentary. EFLA was Johnny Carpenter's drunken, washed-up ''FUCK YOU WORLD!''. Well, Fuck him too. One of the only films I ever walked out of after paying to see.
Even if he meant it to be meta and camp it still has to be entertaining and it wasn’t. Also looks cheap as hell. Even managed to screw up a Bruce Campbell cameo !! We all get to like what we like but at least admit it’s not a misunderstood gem. That’s just being pretentious.
A parody that doesn't come across as a parody? Yeah those have never worked... I don't think this is some meta thing, this was simple-minded, from whatI can tell... I'd like to say "I'll rewatch it and see if maybe it is a parody", but I had to watch it a couple years ago when I made this video. Another viewing so close will result in depression.
I like the score and the songs in the film plus Snakes uniform is cool and lots of cool actors but they could of brought better than basketball and surfing doesnt work and since Kurt and Carpenter where haven so much fun making like comic book style they sould of brought the original actors back too and play different Characters!Duke from original would president and Brain could be the bad guy and Maggie could be Trans!Lol i turn it on not bad late nite action film!
This movie is misunderstood. It’s a satire not meant to be taken seriously.
exactly and have pretty cool scene ! i sincerely HOPE that Carpenter/Russell finish the trilogy with ESCAPE FROM EARTH !
Ya, I preferred escape from LA better than New York. It felt more entertaining, more over the top. The story is very similar to New York, to the point where this feels not a sequel, but the final draft of the original. Yeah, the CG and sets look dated and fake, but so did New York.- and ya know with that said, maybe just maybe John carpenter was just trying to make a parody of the first film
Think for a moment about the movie Escape from
LA. as a stand alone movie and forget Escape from NY for a moment .. (I've never seen the first one tbh).. It does not deserve such a bad review overall.. I love this movie .. very underrated. As long as you don't take it all too seriously of course... it's an entertaining film and very honest... It's in my top 30... And I have watched 100s / 1000’s of movies
It's a sequel.
escape from LA still makes no sense to me, escape from NY was iconic, and by the time of the sequel Carpenter was a legend, he could have easily got the funding needed to make a worthy sequel, yet he makes this joke of a movie, and i think joke is the best way to describe it, its not bad like they made mistakes, its bad like they went out of their way to make it stupid, i mean basketball?? its like they went out and made a movie just for people to make youtube videos making fun of it, like i said it makes no sense.
what also makes no sense is why russell, who was huge, would agree to be in this.
It's a sequel.. not a reboot. Smh
Yup!
I think he means that its just a copy of the original = Remake
I’m not going to say it’s a great movie. That makes sense but I did enjoy watching it yesterday.
I actually liked Escape From LA. True, the original is still better (and actually took itself seriously, which LA does not), but it has its moments. You can make an argument, really, that Escape from LA is kind of a parody of Escape From New York. Carpenter wanted to do a second sequel, which he tentatively titled Escape From Earth, but it never happened. Pity.
Must say, however, that Stacy Keach is a poor substitute for the great Lee Van Cleef. I could take Van Cleef as a serious threat.
Escape From L.A. is awesome WTF!
My favorite remakes are John Carpenter's The Thing, the 1978 version of Invasion of the Body Snatchers (I also like Abel Ferrara's Body Snatchers) and David Cronenberg's The Fly. Maybe the word "remake" isn't entirely correct to describe these movies. They're basically entirely new versions of the story on which the original movie was based (all these movies are based on a literary source). The Robert Rodriguez movie The Faculty (1998) is kind of an unofficial remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
That's a pretty impeccable list. Yeah, 'remake' isn't exactly accurate, I struggled with proper verbiage myself for the video. I don't mind revisiting the classics if:
There's something worth saying about the characters/universe that wasn't already covered
&
The source material is respected.
The comment you made about Invasion of the Body Snatchers and communism seems to have never been properly posted... Probably RUclips, I have had issues with Cinema Slayer Reviews and comments as well. I was hoping it would appear after a day or two, but no, only the partial post in my notification bar remains.
@@rosettareviews6531 Yeah, I said that the 50's version seems to be about the threat of communism and the 1978 version is more about alienation in a big modern city. I like to think of the 70's version as the sci fi/horror version of paranoid 70's thrillers like The Parallax View and Three days of the Condor. The 90's version, Body Snatchers (directed by Abel Ferrara), is set on a military base where people already behave impersonally and robotically anyway. That's how you can make an interesting remake, by offering a fresh perspective on a story that we already know.
@@wimvanderstraeten6521 Yes, you nailed it. The Twilight Zone remake of "The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street" is a shining example of this. A new take on an old story.
Sadly, we all know the incentive is cash, and there is a ton of easy money to be made strip mining people's nostalgia centers.
Sorry about the technical issue, thanks for taking the time to repost. Certainly was worth it from my end.
Dude, this is your best so far-that bit at the end about your ex is GOLD, you had me dying 😆 great work Rosetta lol
Thanks Slayer, much appreciated! I'm trying to make them better, hopefully this trend continues.
Unlike the comment trend, which could end yesterday, YT you listening? lol
@@rosettareviews6531 I've got plenty of work to do myself-we both just need to keep chipping away at it 👍
@@cinemaslayerreviews4130 True dat sir true dat
Hilarious review. I had pretty much blocked 99% of this movie from my brain. But if anyone had to dredge it back up, glad it was you.
Thanks Fever, it is an abomination, sorry to remind you of the evils that still exist on this earth XD
@@rosettareviews6531 Hey wassup man, I do see your comments but for some reason they do not publish. This bull is happening to some other comments I notice as well. No clue why. But just wanted to let you know.
@@FeverDreamlandTheater Thanks man, don't know what I did to make that happen but YT seems to have taken issue with me commenting :/
The only good thing about this movie is Tool playing 'Sweat' being on the soundtrack.
Rosetta the final battle is not a city street it's mainstreet from Disneyland....er..Kingdom by the sea...
7:14 I think it was a recording of a Peace type Summit.
LA is a worthy sequel. Not great as New York but a fun ride. There are a lot of worse sequels, prequels, remakes and "reboots".
I was 9 when this came out and to 9 year old me Snake was the coolest person around.
Maybe, just maybe, the movie subjects were way ahead of their time. Probably we didn't do it much Justice. Should rewatch it someday. However, the CGI is still ass.
The movie wasn't great but there have been worse sequels. It's just that the first movie was so great in comparison. It was obvious what Snake would do at the end, but that scene alone was worth the price of admission.
3:27 CGI discussion
The riding on the wave part at the end was really really bad. Now they're talking about a sequel of the first film.
FFS... NO!!!
The surfing was the best part you are deluded
@@anima6035 Gen X expects more. Don't crap on my 80's.
It was soul-crushing back in the day. Unexpectedly bad.
L.A. is way cooler than New York!
this was not a remake it is a sequel. And its a lot of fun. 👍👍👍👍
Great review. Love John Carpenter but Escape from New York isn’t even in my top 5 because it’s looks cool but it’s a long boring schlog. Even with low expectations I was ticked when I left the theatre after sitting thru this turd. Can’t understand why so many dopes say “ Rewatch it !! It’s good !! “
NO ... IT’S NOT “
Wrong opinion
I enjoy it myself, but the sequel smells like teen spirit to me.
Sorry but I couldn't disagree more. This is one of John Carpenter's most underrated and misunderstood movies imo. I wouldn't even think of comparing it to those garbage Disney Star Wars films. The movie is supposed to be silly, absurd, over-the-top and self referential which is what separates it from the first film. You aren't exactly supposed to take the movie that seriously. Making the movie more of a parody was a brilliant move by Carpenter but most fans just didn't get it I guess
Disney Star Wars is brilliant compared to EFLA. EFLA is one of the WORST films OAT and a slap in the face to Carpenter's fans. Absolute garbage. Beyond garbage. ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK was serious Cold War commentary. EFLA was Johnny Carpenter's drunken, washed-up ''FUCK YOU WORLD!''. Well, Fuck him too. One of the only films I ever walked out of after paying to see.
@Ben Dover I've seen much worse sequels
Even if he meant it to be meta and camp it still has to be entertaining and it wasn’t. Also looks cheap as hell. Even managed to screw up a Bruce Campbell cameo !! We all get to like what we like but at least admit it’s not a misunderstood gem. That’s just being pretentious.
@@Lunchladydoyle no you are
A parody that doesn't come across as a parody? Yeah those have never worked... I don't think this is some meta thing, this was simple-minded, from whatI can tell...
I'd like to say "I'll rewatch it and see if maybe it is a parody", but I had to watch it a couple years ago when I made this video.
Another viewing so close will result in depression.
Mad film
I like the score and the songs in the film plus Snakes uniform is cool and lots of cool actors but they could of brought better than basketball and surfing doesnt work and since Kurt and Carpenter where haven so much fun making like comic book style they sould of brought the original actors back too and play different Characters!Duke from original would president and Brain could be the bad guy and Maggie could be Trans!Lol i turn it on not bad late nite action film!
You lost all credibility by calling the sequel a reboot. I sincerely doubt you have any taste in movies.