Advanced Tips For A Successful Bowdrill Fire

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  • Advanced Tips For A Successful Bowdrill Fire
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  • @SurvivalLilly
    @SurvivalLilly  7 лет назад +8

    BIG NEWS: I have designed my own Survival Knife called “APO-1”. You can get it now at my online store: www.survivallilly.at/ Thank you so much for your support

    • @emlillthings7914
      @emlillthings7914 7 лет назад

      Cool vid, liked your little pointers like the notch, as spindle-length, which as you pointed out, most do differently. You play around with axes by any chance? There is an axe-challenge going via the channel 'Skillcult', and we only have one lady swinging. Would be cool if you could join in as well

    • @robertocampostorro8588
      @robertocampostorro8588 7 лет назад

      Survival Lilly

    • @mattrohan7274
      @mattrohan7274 6 лет назад

      when you mentioned native survival video from mitch
      were you referring to mitch mitchell?
      his leaf raft when he was on alone was genius

  • @Scoobydooshoe
    @Scoobydooshoe 9 лет назад +3

    That was the most technical explanation of the bow drill I have seen yet, which shouldn't surprise anyone, I mean you are German after all. Bravo.

  • @woodscrafter1971
    @woodscrafter1971 8 лет назад +2

    Wow, it's amazing how just a few tips can help so much! Just using a longer bow and increasing the size of the notch in the fireboard has helped so much...Thank you!!

  • @Far-North-Bushcraft-Survival
    @Far-North-Bushcraft-Survival 8 лет назад +5

    Very good instructional video. You covered a lot of the basics as well as some things not so well known. Good job Lilly

    • @SurvivalLilly
      @SurvivalLilly  8 лет назад

      +Far North Bushcraft And Survival Thanks Lonnie :)

  • @jasond7176
    @jasond7176 9 лет назад +2

    Wow Lilly, that was the best tutorial I have seen on bow drill. You did an absolutely excellent job explaining all the things that nobody else seems to mention, but are critical to know. Thank you. Much appreciated !!!

  • @budwilliams6590
    @budwilliams6590 2 года назад

    This is, I believe, the most professional and informative video I have ever seen on this subject.

  • @semco72057
    @semco72057 6 лет назад

    The way you start a fire using that technique is fantastic. You are so good at surviving there in Austria, and Canada and hope you have equal success in Africa living in the wild.

  • @binaryglitch64
    @binaryglitch64 2 года назад

    You just made a bowdrill video 6 months ago, but this one from 6 years ago made me a better teacher because you helped me articulate things I knew but didn't know how to explain.

  • @iamdrc227
    @iamdrc227 9 лет назад

    Great Tips! What you say about technique makes a lot of sense. Seen a hundred videos on making a bow drill and no one ever took the time to explain why they do what they do. By explaining the why, it helps to remember the how.

  • @3flashcan
    @3flashcan 9 лет назад

    Lilly and Dax . I've followed you since your first video. And l just wanted to say how much you have evolved since your first one . Awesome! And I like your natural hair color better . I'm a Barber so I notice people's hair . I think that a lot of women have gotten breast cancer and other cancers because of putting the strong dyes and perms on there hair . Bad chemicals that your skin soaks up. And I said once before I think you made a brake through by using the larger spindle to make a bow drill . So many people use small spindles and they never or takes them forever to get a fire started . So please keep up the great videos . I know it's hard to come up with ideas . But it doesn't hurt to go back and cover old ones with improved ideas to the old ones. And Dax what can you say . He is such a ham and a crazy dog . He makes me laugh everytime you show him. Loves rolling around in the woods. And may I say your English has gotten much better . In some of your older videos some words were hard to understand. But not anymore. LOL! I tryed to learn the Germany language . But I have to much trouble speaking English. And I'm from the States. LOL! Thanks Lilly and Dax.

  • @Red19UK
    @Red19UK 9 лет назад +1

    One of the most informative videos Ive seen on this topic, thanks Lilly.

  • @guitymon
    @guitymon 4 года назад

    I've watched at least half a dozen videos on bow drilling and this was bar far the best. Been waiting for an up close detailed shot of a fire board. Good tips as well . Thank you!

  • @zekemarzell2861
    @zekemarzell2861 7 лет назад

    Nice job, it brings me back to when I was a kid first learning the ropes of bow drilling, I'm in the process of getting myself a new set together, I would like to hit up the forested areas and will be leaving for New York tomorrow to check out the scenes as well as the forests. Keep on living everyone, stay safe and use your senses, peace

  • @DaDon131313
    @DaDon131313 8 лет назад +1

    Thank you for the info. I've watched your previous videos on bow drilling, and I have to say this is the most informative yet. Some good tips I want to try soon.

  • @leepearce5875
    @leepearce5875 9 лет назад

    Great video as always, Lilly. I made a bearing block using a chip of oak wood and a bearing from a roller skate. Works nice and sweet. Keep the videos coming, and I'll keep sharing them.

  • @garyleelookadoojr4182
    @garyleelookadoojr4182 9 лет назад +2

    Thanks for the tips. My experience with friction fires hasn't been the best do the more I can learn maybe something will click and I'll get it to work. Especially as I'm moving up in years. Thanks again Ms. Lilly. God bless you and your family for all that you do.

  • @alanjohnson1204
    @alanjohnson1204 8 лет назад +2

    Great video, I've only been doing this for a couple of weeks now, the only thing that I would like to add and I saw it somewhere on RUclips, is to use some pre-stretched leather (like from a belt) on your bow. I tried that and it's soooo much easier to adjust to different sizes of spindle. I'm using a strip about half an inch wide and grips very well..

    • @markcash2
      @markcash2 6 лет назад

      I need to try that! Thanks for this tip!

  • @jhenry0615
    @jhenry0615 9 лет назад

    Excellent tips. Just want to add another reason the outside "dust" is hotter than the inside is because the spindle is spinning faster on the perimeter than in the center. Good work!

  • @donbrink1954
    @donbrink1954 3 года назад

    Pretty good video. If I may add a couple of things. I lubricate my hand hold with oil from the outside of my nose and hair , or ear wax (which is the best). I also use a thinner bow with a slight curve and grab the back of the string between my thumb and pointer finger so I can instantly control the tension (increase for slippage or decrease for binding) throughout the process.

  • @bluetickbeagles116
    @bluetickbeagles116 6 лет назад

    Great video. You are the most skilled, experienced and thorough instructor I’ve ever watched. Outstanding!

  • @ShasCho
    @ShasCho 7 лет назад

    Best bowdrill video I've ever seen.
    Excellent instruction!

  • @aktrapper6126
    @aktrapper6126 9 лет назад

    Nice teaching on the bow drill Lilly. The native Americans in the north west coast had to keep constant vigilance to keep the friction fire tools dry because it rained all the time. I think if I was in a survival situation I would make a set before my modern means ran out. Then I would have time to dry the set by the fire before I needed it.

    • @gundog5
      @gundog5 9 лет назад

      +Catherine Perrett You got it. That's the right idea. Freshly found materials usually add to the challenge, depending on the environment. Having multiple proven friction fire sets available is another option if modern means ran out (or weren't available). Drying a set or two by the fire can make life easier the next time around.

  • @dannybaker4641
    @dannybaker4641 9 лет назад

    As long as one wood is softer than the other then one of them has to
    make smoke and therefore an ember.Makes perfect sense.Thanks Lilly.

  • @redriver6541
    @redriver6541 6 лет назад

    Excellent video. Good job. Thank You for sharing this. Love from KY in the USA.

  • @IsleofWightBushcraft
    @IsleofWightBushcraft 8 лет назад +1

    Nice demonstration, I find there are so many variables with bow drill method, it's journey of discovery, and what works for you. Many thanks

  • @RichardBondCreative
    @RichardBondCreative 8 лет назад +5

    hey Lilly, I've been trying to make my first bowdrill fire for 2 days, and you've already addressed all the issues I've been having - and I'm only half way through your video!
    thanks for posting, liked and subbed, looking forward to more!

  • @hangassan
    @hangassan 9 лет назад

    Great video, as usual...primitive fire starting is a lot of work, and takes a lot of skills, practice, and preparation to pull it off...having said that, the only type of primitive fire starting I have never had to use is hand drilling. After starting a fire when the chips are down, you are soaking wet. and hypothermia is setting in, one realizes there is absolutely no reason at all ever to go into the wilds without a lighter...and a waterproof case of matches...and a fire steel...and I usually have a Fresnel lens as well ...if one method doesn't work another will...primitive skills are good, especially in the long-term, but in a pinch those lifeboat style matches that go off like a flare are your best friend ever...

  • @gcoutdoors904
    @gcoutdoors904 9 лет назад +10

    i would just like to say that your thumbnail is awesome. it looks like your starting a fire by singing to kindling

  • @Nativesurvival
    @Nativesurvival 5 лет назад +3

    That was very kind of you, thanks Lilly; nice job on the ember and vid. Be well.

  • @donwilson9939
    @donwilson9939 3 года назад

    Thanks for the vid. I have not been able to successfully use a fire bow but hopefully your tips will help. Once again, thank you.

  • @geegnosis8888
    @geegnosis8888 6 лет назад

    That was one of the best explanations of why one way versus another. Thank you Lilly.

  • @HyperJoe
    @HyperJoe 8 лет назад +1

    Great Video Lilly, I've always had problems finding the right wood as I live in the Arizona High Deserts, I see You've listed some that would work for Me, awesome! Also the trick with using a wider notch, I'm anxious to try that, thanks for all the Great Tips! Keep the awesome Vids coming.. :)

  • @TonchyShultz
    @TonchyShultz 7 лет назад

    Lilly ..very good explanation and technik ..looks easy but many people don't have patient ..you are good ! Greeting from AB. Canada!

  • @jimboucher3128
    @jimboucher3128 9 лет назад

    Best tips I've heard yet. You make it look easy.

  • @stevegartman113
    @stevegartman113 9 лет назад

    Lilly I bet you father is so proud of you! the average man doesn't know half the survival skills you've demostrated. love the videos!

  • @alindastar4297
    @alindastar4297 8 лет назад

    Very good tips especially the skate board trick and I loved the way you turned the coal after placing the tinder bundle on top.

  • @breker19er
    @breker19er 8 лет назад

    Great economy of motion with the bow! Haha super cool you did a shout for Mitch with native survival!!

  • @johnbrowniv
    @johnbrowniv 7 лет назад

    Very instructive. So much misinformation on this topic Nothing like trial and error! Thank you.

  • @colemanfarkas5481
    @colemanfarkas5481 Год назад

    love your technique, very dialed and methodical. thanks for the knowledge!

  • @IsleofWightBushcraft
    @IsleofWightBushcraft 9 лет назад

    Thank you Lilly. I like to practice this method and usually do OK, but the tip about the wider notch in hearth board and being not so near to the centre is a tip that I will try next time out. All the best. Regards, Shane , Isle of Wight England.

  • @kensbugoutjourney3556
    @kensbugoutjourney3556 7 лет назад

    Thanks for the video Lilly. My challenge this week is to learn how to make and use a bowdrill. I guess we will find out next week. I'll be sure to pop back over here and let ya know how it goes.

  • @2514ben88
    @2514ben88 9 лет назад

    This one of the best video I have seen for Bowdrill Fire thank-you

  • @sixstring417
    @sixstring417 9 лет назад

    thank you for showing the results of all your research and experimentation it sure has paid off to a technique that works so well!

  • @jimjeffries2735
    @jimjeffries2735 9 лет назад

    Excellent tips, Lilly! You are doing a great job educating us...keep it up.

  • @bluejeans8001
    @bluejeans8001 8 лет назад +4

    Very useful information , thanks a bunch for all your videos.

  • @bushcampat
    @bushcampat 9 лет назад

    Vielen Dank für das informative Video, dein Englisch ist großartig, Alex

  • @roybrauski9409
    @roybrauski9409 Месяц назад

    Ive been working on my first one the bow is made from red oak sapling only hard wood i used besided my berring block the hearth or ember board are pine and th spindle was an even softer wood that makes a strong scent when its being carved or starts warming up on my bow drill and after only like 70 or 80 strokes i began to see smoke and charing when demonstrating to my neighbors what i was doing

  • @EatCarbs
    @EatCarbs 9 лет назад +1

    I was told by someone that my bow was to long... but I was using the whole thing.
    Thanks for the video

  • @kodiakcopilot
    @kodiakcopilot 9 лет назад

    Good tips. Definitely will change my bow drilling game.

  • @alaskankare
    @alaskankare 9 лет назад

    great tips! I have just seen a couple of videos from a guy in my neck of the woods on native alaskan techniques where they cut a ledge into the board to hold them ember at Far North Bushcraft and Survival. Thanks for your tips Lilly

  • @Coltrabagar
    @Coltrabagar 7 лет назад

    Great tips. A lot of "little" things that make a big difference.

  • @patrickgermond2750
    @patrickgermond2750 7 лет назад +1

    I was just thinking how far you've come. I remember when you just looked like a kid going camping. Now you are a peer reviewed, award winning, expert in woodcraft, prepping, and all around survival skills. And a an expert on a dozen other topics too.
    I feel old

  • @nickdunbar2967
    @nickdunbar2967 8 лет назад

    Cool Lilly. I'm going to have a go over the weekend. Thanks!

  • @sparkyfromel
    @sparkyfromel 4 года назад

    Love the roller-skate wheel , all old time hunters would be drooling thinking about it
    here in Australia , they pack the drill with dry grass to keep all the heat

  • @NorwegianWoods
    @NorwegianWoods 9 лет назад +2

    Thanks for the tips. I have done this a few times and it gets easier every time. After watching this it probably gets even easier :)
    - Martin

  • @badbadbob1
    @badbadbob1 9 лет назад

    I love you. Oh wait, I love your roller blade bearing block Idea. Its round, fits your hand so well and never needs adjusted. When I use my bowdrill set with the new improve roller blade wheel. I will tell them Survival Lilly who I am now Subscriber to taught me this. Thankyou.

  • @geneschindler9537
    @geneschindler9537 2 года назад

    Very good video I had good luck like 5 times but lately I don't know what I'm doing wrong now, but I'm going to keep trying Thanks for the demo

  • @kennethjones3887
    @kennethjones3887 8 лет назад +1

    Congratulations, another great video and more great tips! Have you ever used a cord drill or a pump drill? They seem much easier to me.

  • @wesleytillman9774
    @wesleytillman9774 6 лет назад

    Excellent video. Very useful information. You're the best.

  • @arciafrench993
    @arciafrench993 8 лет назад

    Just found your channel & really enjoy it. I passed it on to my siblings. Love the outdoors but finding it increasingly frustrating because of the growing amount of ticks here in N.H.

  • @Sirskibumsalot
    @Sirskibumsalot 9 лет назад

    Hey Just wanted to say I have never made a fire this way before ....I watched your video and and saw what I was doing wrong and got a good fire going today ....so thanks for the tips !!

  • @munchh2007
    @munchh2007 9 лет назад

    great tips Lilly. i will be giving it a go as soon as i am able. the skate wheel is perfect!

  • @TheIbkiss
    @TheIbkiss 6 лет назад

    excellent instructions again, I was struggling when I started trying to use a bow drill. after watching this video I have fire!!! Thank You.

  • @davidmashburn9243
    @davidmashburn9243 9 лет назад

    Very instructive, especially the part about spindles. Two suggestions, when not using
    the spindle, put it in a pocket so as to keep it as dry as you can. Laying the spindle on
    the ground is not good. It just takes the slightest bit of moisture to mess things . If you
    are using paracord for a bowdrill string, boil it in water for 3-4 minutes. This will eliminate the stretch which helps. David Mashburn

    • @gundog5
      @gundog5 9 лет назад

      +David Mashburn It's a good idea to keep the set as dry as possible. Although, surface moisture is usually negligible. There's been several videos where folks would dunk the spindle & fireboard in a bucket of water, shake the water off and still get good success. It's the moisture content already in the wood that makes it challenging.
      I don't think it's necessary to boil the bowstring (paracord or any other type of cordage). Stretch is not necessarily a bad thing. Working with the bowstring is a better strategy.

    • @davidmashburn9243
      @davidmashburn9243 9 лет назад

      +gundog5 I learn a new thing everyday, thanks to folks like you. I am the result of my experiences. Will definitely try that. Fire is an inexact science and I strive to learn as much as I can through experience. David Mashburn

  • @skeledon
    @skeledon 6 лет назад

    Awesome video and very informative. Awesome job Survival Lilly 😊

  • @Bushcraftnic
    @Bushcraftnic 9 лет назад

    Yeaaaahhh A nice and good video about using a bowdril!!! hard to find! you are sharing a lot of good knowlege Lilly.
    Thank you

  • @amrasurvival5580
    @amrasurvival5580 9 лет назад

    great video thanks for breaking it down to the basics easy to understand directions thanks for sharing

  • @drutgat2
    @drutgat2 7 лет назад

    Hi Lilly,
    I really enjoyed this video, and thought that it was full of wonderful tips for making and using a bow drill.
    I noted in one of your other videos on this subject that you had a problem using tree roots as 'string' / cord for the bow; I am mentioning this because I do not think that you mentioned that in this video, and it seems to be an important consideration.
    Many thanks.

  • @CrankyPantss
    @CrankyPantss 9 лет назад

    Always full of great information. Thank you for sharing your time with us.

  • @sammyboy1024
    @sammyboy1024 9 лет назад

    Awesome tips and your shelter is amazing

  • @JuggoJuggo
    @JuggoJuggo 9 лет назад

    So that large notch would also increase the pressure by removing some of the surface area, creating more friction along with catching the better embers. Just a thought, cool videos.

  • @burtonator
    @burtonator 9 лет назад +1

    Great video. You're right about forward to back instead of side to side. Forward to back uses your back, chest, tricep and bicep muscles which are very strong. If you go side to side you're using your deltoids (shoulder muscle) which is about 1/3rd to 1/5th as strong. Plus you might injure yourself.

  • @davesakievich9657
    @davesakievich9657 7 лет назад

    Also for the cap 'stone' some areas have these really large acorns that have shells about 1 to 1 1/2 inches wide. These can make good cap. Just either spit into it for a lube or get it wet. This works in case you don'e have or can't locate a good cap stone or board.

  • @christopherellis2663
    @christopherellis2663 7 лет назад

    very good exposition! I found that one needs to have a floating arm by which the hand moves in a line, not a curve. Never push and pull, simply allow it to move back and forth. That's my two cents worth.

  • @Darignobullseye
    @Darignobullseye 7 лет назад

    Thank you. This has been the best help EVER!! I so needed all these details. Thank you!!

  • @dannym332456
    @dannym332456 8 лет назад

    Thank you. I've learned a lot from your videos. Keep it up, please

  • @Stevetaylor099
    @Stevetaylor099 9 лет назад

    Very informative and highly important information for survival Lilley, thank you for sharing

  • @gundog5
    @gundog5 9 лет назад

    I agree, finding suitable wood materials high and dry is the way to go. Dead wood on the ground is typically harder to get success with than dead wood suspended up off the ground.
    Wood combinations - I agree, it doesn't really matter whether the spindle is a harder wood than the fireboard or vice versa. Dead & dry is the key (and in a reasonable state-of-decay). Neither is right or wrong. I use mixed wood combinations all the time. Just gotta know how to work with what ya got; hardwood on hardwood, softwood on softwood, or anything in between.
    Stout (not flexible) bows are the way to go in most cases. A more flexible bow could be considered when using natural cordage with a lower tensile strength. I prefer to use a stout bow and hold the bottom end of the bowstring with my bow-hand when using more delicate cordage bowstrings (ie. natural cordage, standard shoelaces, strips of clothing, etc...). You can feel the tension in your hand and adjust accordingly. The other thing to consider is a flexible bow may become even more flexible when going for the ember (having to apply less downward pressure to avoid bowstring slippage, but then not enough friction get an ember). The stress on the bow itself could even warm-up and become more flexible as one goes for the coal (ie. becomes more flimsy). It's a balancing act between adequate downward pressure, speed, and avoiding bowstring slippage (ie. bowstring breakage).
    Short bow strokes - Generally speaking, I don't think it makes much of a difference between short or long bow strokes. Getting at least one rotation between direction changes is typically well enough; So the hot dust particles get pushed into the notch.
    Sideways bowing (awkward right to left) - It's not as bad as it looks. I do it most of the time as the notch tends to break on me when doing the more traditional front to back bowing. Neither way is right or wrong. Though, I think the set needs to be prepared accordingly. The ability to go either way is more adaptable when using freshly found unproven materials.
    Notch - I usually go with a wider notch as you've suggested, but I watch for how the dust particles flow in/ through the notch that helps me determine whether it's too narrow, too wide, or just right.
    Freshly found wood materials - With good tools & materials, it shouldn't be much harder than using an ideal proven bow drill set from home, unless in inclement weather. It's when using less than ideal tools & materials that it gets more challenging. Especially in inclement weather.

  • @parjacpar3077
    @parjacpar3077 9 лет назад

    Thanks for those tips Lilly never tried it myself now I will

  • @sventhomas1181
    @sventhomas1181 9 лет назад

    Thanks Lilly your tips are useful to me . Try it several times but failed . But i keep on trying .all the best from munich Dante

  • @scottb1019
    @scottb1019 7 лет назад

    Nice vid. I liked the thorough step by step. However, I'd like to point out to anyone trying to figure this method out, that what works for some, may not work for others. I for one do almost everything different when I use a bow drill.(except the socket, I use my old skateboard wheel) But that doesn't mean my way is right, it's just right for me. Everyone moves and thinks different, so try all kinds of ways in different combinations and see what sticks. And most important, don't give up!

  • @wesg6243
    @wesg6243 9 лет назад

    Great video. lots of good info! have you tried using the lanyard hole in your SRK as a berring block?

  • @michaelkarloff8117
    @michaelkarloff8117 Год назад

    Best bow drill instructions

  • @E.lectricityNorth
    @E.lectricityNorth 9 лет назад +2

    Great instructions and demonstration Lilly, thank you!!

  • @manuelhernandez7225
    @manuelhernandez7225 9 лет назад

    great video as always, just had one question, what's the rope your using for your bow.

  • @dajoker51
    @dajoker51 8 лет назад

    Lilly, have you made a video yet on how you make char cloth? I've seen other vids on youtube on the subject but would like to see your take on it.

  • @TheRebel531
    @TheRebel531 9 лет назад +1

    Great and informative video, Lily (as usual, LOL). I have tried bow drilling with not much success in the past. I don't think it is my technique or construction as much as my choices of the woods I use. It's almost like getting the right combo is harder than it seems. How do you (and other "pros" get your spindles so perfect? I usually end up with one that has an arch to it no matter what I do. Maybe I just need to practice more all around. Keep up the great vids (how bout an over-nighter in a snow storm???) ~ Vinny

  • @soldtobediers
    @soldtobediers 9 лет назад

    Lilly... best tips yet on capitalizing every aspect of bow-drill usage. from dialing in it's fire components... to maximizing the techniques, of less for more in the overall performance measure efforts. length of the bow and shoulder throw, less drill friction at the top, means more down pressure friction at the base. larger aperture at drill's hearth = more fire frictional material to ember up.
    and the best comically impressive imprint i'll be left to remember... is to work that bow it's full length like a mad cellist performing the william tell overture at high speed minus any breaks in the notes.
    now for the most important part to know... just where in the cat hair, chittity chaw hell... has the Dax gone and gotten off to in this section?? -gilpin 2-10-16

  • @michaelsupple6081
    @michaelsupple6081 8 лет назад

    I love your videos and I appreciate your honesty as in the last minute of this video. :) I do believe you are the real deal. Thanks.

  • @echosquest
    @echosquest 9 лет назад

    very nice id liek to try and make one. about how long usually does it take for you to keep at it before you get a ember? im sure it varies but you must of've done it enough to get an idea.

  • @e.whawkins7211
    @e.whawkins7211 9 лет назад

    Thanks! im going to have to try that wide notch now

  • @pek5117
    @pek5117 9 лет назад

    Is the blue whistle on your back pack a dog whistle for dax or a signal one?

  • @hangswithraccoons
    @hangswithraccoons 9 лет назад

    These are some great tips! Thanks a ton! I love your channel!

  • @donaldgarmon7368
    @donaldgarmon7368 9 лет назад

    Another Great Video Lilly! Thank You!

  • @jackhicks5904
    @jackhicks5904 9 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the amazing tips! I definitely plan on using some of these!

  • @mikedebell2242
    @mikedebell2242 8 лет назад

    Your form is very good. I see you have been practicing.

  • @stephensimone6569
    @stephensimone6569 7 лет назад

    Well done. You're awesome. Love your channel.

  • @meawoodsman8321
    @meawoodsman8321 9 лет назад

    All good tips, what do you use for the string.

  • @jrnumex9286
    @jrnumex9286 5 лет назад

    i am wondering if a few tinder grasses added while smoking hot drill in acton will light?

  • @ivanhita4726
    @ivanhita4726 9 лет назад +2

    Took ur advice and it worked! Ur awesome!!!