Because training them is a challenge for him. Plus the prophecy of the dark curse, plus he doesn’t think of the consequences properly. At least when he’s too eager to get his hands on more power. At least he’s learnt some lessons. He’s more clever in Storybrooke, he uses his smarts more cunningly and in better ways.
@@ΠανωραίαΓιαννούτσου They fit whoever puts them on, I'm pretty sure. The Silver Shoes fit both Dorothy and the Witch of the East in the book and they fit Zelena, Dorothy and others in the show.
2:08 "I have that effect on women!" Or at least on Mills women. It seems to run in the family, Cora, Regina, Zelena, they all have Rumple issues. If they ever meet, Robin and Zelena's daughter will probably have Rumple Issues.
Turns out, she doesn't show any symptoms of the Rumple effect ;) (they must have met at one point as he was with Robin and Alice when the curse came in s7, where he showed some fatherly protective stance over the young couple)
Regina never had romantic feelings for rumple.....more like distain because of him her mother was obsessed with power and forced her into a life she didn't want
He kind of got scared of her at one point. I mean magic came naturally to her and when she said "I am not naive" he was taken back abit lol. Love Zelena!
Although I agree with you, I must point out that both actors have British accents. Zelena speaks with an ENGLISH accent, specifically. Rumple is Scottish, which is still technically classified as "British". Although lots of people use the term interchangeably, it's actually incorrect - English and British are not the same thing. "British" covers the entire empire; England, Scotland, Ireland, etc.
@@ej3016 I can see why you'd get that impression but no. Belle's accent is Australian. Zelena's is English. Southern English, if we're getting technical.
Zelena, from what I've seen, is a really weak person. Regina and Rumple both had the same situation; they both grew up feeling like they weren't good enough. The difference is that they made something of themselves, and eventually they came to realise that they ARE good enough. Zelena can't do that; she constantly judges herself by others and is unable to handle other people being treated even slightly well around her, because she perceives that as a threat. And when she does get jealous, all she does is get petty and whine. She never would have been able to make much of herself; she has the motivation, but not that inner drive.
People can change. I may get backlash for saying this but I always rooted for Zelena, hoping that she would be able to turn over a new leaf and make a change in herself and for herself. I understand exactly what she went through. What she must have been feeling. Hopeless. Worthless. Not able to trust anyone, even her closest friends. Although my father insists that he loved me, I never felt wanted by him. He chose to stay away. I feel like, although it may not be the case, he chose my younger sister over me. She was there with him through her childhood. It's not that easy to let go...
Actually all 3 grew up the same way; zelena was unwanted by her adoptive father and treated like she was a burden and HE was the first person to call her wicked.
But Zelena made something of herself. She grew up to be strong and powerful, albeit resented. She became the powerful Wicked Witch and she enslaved Rumple and kicked Regina's butt. Sure, she lost in the end, but she did far more than just being "petty". Besides, even Regina had her weakness: she blamed Snow White for what happened to Daniel and then instead of accepting that what happened was only her mother's fault, she unleashed her frustration on hundreds of innocent people. Both the Mill sisters were at some point unable to cope with the unfair things that happened to them. They both took their frustration out on innocent people. What matters is that eventually they both managed to put the past behind and turn over a new leaf.
This is literally completely Zelena's fault. 2 seconds before she threw her fit she was telling Rumple "I'll give you whatever you want" and Zelena could have gotten EVERYTHING out of a deal with Rumple in exchange for those shoes, Regina dead, recognition and power, but she got impulsive and blew it
Zelena says she's not naive but she is😁at least in these flashbacks!I mean Cora was smart,charismatic and someone that could even manipulate Rumple himself!of course she hold a lot of grudge for so many people and had emotions but she wasn't that kind of clingy that makes her unbearable and instead made her more charming!Regina while hating Snow and blaming her for her misery,still only wanted freedom and that made her turn against Cora and while she had nothing to do after that,started avenging Daniel once she couldn't get him back!while even she screwed up as a villain and queen so many times,but still her pride was everything for her and like Cora she used more charm and even taunting Rumple himself rather than being clingy to him!Zelena on the other hand starts everything just for the jealousy which came out of no where?😂I mean I wouldn't blame her for hating Cora but the first thing she did was blaming everything on Zelena!didn't she knew that when Cora gave birth to her,had no idea that someday she's gonna have another daughter named Regina?different of all of that what kind of a terrible mother Cora was to Regina?I mean starting everything just by simply putting all blames on Regina!and in here literally being clingy to Rumple and begging him to be chosen and...I could see she's not gonna be his choice!
Regina was not as powerful as zelena. Zelena was a magic prodigy she could do powerful magic at a young age even when she was just five, and regina couldnt even make a simple firebal as an adult.... but with excesive training regina became stronger than zelena but Zelana's pendant made her super powerful and protected her so that only light magic can hurt her But now that regina has light magic she can easily overpower zelenas magic even with the pendant. And in Season 6 the evil regina almost killed Zelena
I've never understood why Rumple was painted as a coward. The only cowardly thing I remember him doing was abandoning Bae. Him injuring himself before the war actually seems brave to me. He knew that he would die, leaving his son without a father and his wife without a husband if he tried to fight, but he also knew that everyone would shun him as a coward if he chose to live. Even though he knew everyone would hate him, he chose to live. He did the same thing when Hook wanted to fight him, he chose humiliation over the possibility of leaving his son without a father. He did this again when begging the recruiter who wanted Bae to fight in the war. He repeatedly gave up his pride for those he loved, even if they didn't understand or appreciate it. Even when he abandoned Bae he has a defense. The dagger was known to make the person its connected to, feel a dependance on it and it manipulates their minds. So Rumple would have to resist the dagger and get over whatever fear he had (because let's be honest, going through a portal to a unknown world is terrifying, especially given his history with portals). I definitely don't think he was a brave man, but I also don't think he was worthy of being treated like a cowardly pile of dirt.
Zelena first happy ending she rejects of 6. She could of gone and be with her sister. Be with the family she been searching for. Wanting and longing. Instead grew jealous and went to rumple Instead. The beginning of her Wanting everything Regina has.
Wow even without Zelena holding Rumple's dagger he even can't touch Zelena to kill her? Zelena is far more powerful than Rumple is that so. Now with the dagger in Zelena no wonder Rumple can't do anything
It's more the fact that he made the mistake of teaching her everything he knows, which means he has no tricks left up his sleeve - she already KNOWS it all. Plus he underestimated her, so he didn't expect her to teleport on him. That's not really a sign of magical talent; just how bad Rumple can be at judging people.
It's hard to say who's exactly stronger between the two. But aside from that, Rumple knows too much about Zelena. If he were to go against her, he would use what he knows of her against her.
I think Zelena can win a fight with Rumple, also the Snow Queen after gaining her light magic could have beat Rumple! I would just love to see Cora & Zelena to meet!!
@@TTUploads zelena defeated regina what are u talking about and when regina used light magic she barley gave zelena a headache she just fell long enough for them to get the dagger in her pendent
DawntheGreat8 True. Maybe she even changed his memories :O But still if they kiss like that he can't be her father! And he was my first suspect of a father when I learned she was Cora's daughter :/
Cora had Zelena back when she was poor. Cora and Rumple secretly dated while Cora war planning her wedding with Regina's father. If Cora was pregnant with Zelena as a princess I can't imagine why she'd give her up.
Z "You're insane"
R waves his hand away "Besides the point"
He doesn't even deny it. LOLz
"I have that effect on women, you love me"... It's accurate.
i can imagine rumple brushing his hair like regina is doing at his own house lol
@@DoctorPandorica Lol!
I've me you bodnf my own life now that I have a good life and I don't
The moment when Zelena's voice broke when she said "dearie" was hilarious!
Indeed Rample has this effect on women
"You're insane!"
"Besides the point!"
OMG I love Rumple and his incredible randomness.
Yas!
Alison O'Connor Me too
i just wonder why he keeps training random insane girls - everyone of them tries to kill him later!
i guess loving him hurts too much!
All evil are insane...
Basically he created a small harem of women. Belle is the queen of course, but he's gotta have his side pieces.
Because it was a prophesy that one of Cora’s daughters would cast the dark curse
Because training them is a challenge for him. Plus the prophecy of the dark curse, plus he doesn’t think of the consequences properly. At least when he’s too eager to get his hands on more power.
At least he’s learnt some lessons. He’s more clever in Storybrooke, he uses his smarts more cunningly and in better ways.
"Its ok...I have that effect on women..." BAH BAH HA HA!!!! Gotta love Rumple!
imagine him in those slippers
They would never fit. He'd make Belle wear them for him.
Πανωραία Γιαννούτσου he hadn’t met belle yet
😂😂😂
@@ΠανωραίαΓιαννούτσου They fit whoever puts them on, I'm pretty sure. The Silver Shoes fit both Dorothy and the Witch of the East in the book and they fit Zelena, Dorothy and others in the show.
Wicked which of the west on Oz zelena Mills glass slippers slivers.
2:08 "I have that effect on women!" Or at least on Mills women. It seems to run in the family, Cora, Regina, Zelena, they all have Rumple issues. If they ever meet, Robin and Zelena's daughter will probably have Rumple Issues.
Turns out, she doesn't show any symptoms of the Rumple effect ;) (they must have met at one point as he was with Robin and Alice when the curse came in s7, where he showed some fatherly protective stance over the young couple)
There wasn't time. :lol:
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Thats cos shes a lesbian
X Drive - That might change the details, but it doesn't mean she can't have Issues.
Regina never had romantic feelings for rumple.....more like distain because of him her mother was obsessed with power and forced her into a life she didn't want
Rumple realizing his job could've been so much more easier and he fucked up so hard here lol
He kind of got scared of her at one point. I mean magic came naturally to her and when she said "I am not naive" he was taken back abit lol. Love Zelena!
“You might want to get that checked out”💀💀💀😂😂😂
And the way Zelena says "Dearie!" In her British accent!
Although I agree with you, I must point out that both actors have British accents. Zelena speaks with an ENGLISH accent, specifically. Rumple is Scottish, which is still technically classified as "British". Although lots of people use the term interchangeably, it's actually incorrect - English and British are not the same thing. "British" covers the entire empire; England, Scotland, Ireland, etc.
LordofFullmetal Thanks for pointing that out. :)
Zylice Liddell
You're welcome :) it's a very common mistake - even I occasionally forget and do it.
Zelena’s accent has always sounded Australian to me - but maybe I’m projecting - you know - she’s from OZ / Aus 🙄😁
@@ej3016 I can see why you'd get that impression but no. Belle's accent is Australian. Zelena's is English. Southern English, if we're getting technical.
This is one of my favorite scenes from OUAT. Rumple be getting all the ladies and knows it lmao
at that point the writers were just f*cking with us. They knew
Zelena: "You think I love you?"
Me: *remembers Emma's S1 comment to Snow about "plunging necklines"
2:04 "You're insane!""Beside the point!"Rumple never fails to entertain!
"You love me...That makes you dangerous"
Says the guy that falls in love with Belle...lol
The way Rumpel tried to "kill" her lol! xD
I wonder how different things would've been if Zelena had cast the curse for rumple.
She would have had to kill him.
At least Disney stayed true to the Oz series by doing silver slippers instead of ruby ones.
I think they changed them to ruby cause they wanted to show off the colour in the film.
Because the ruby ones are copyrighted lol
I love how the clock of her sleepers match the soundtrack.
You're Insane!
Besides the point!
Is it bad that I've had this exchange with someone before? (I was the second line)
Zelena, from what I've seen, is a really weak person. Regina and Rumple both had the same situation; they both grew up feeling like they weren't good enough. The difference is that they made something of themselves, and eventually they came to realise that they ARE good enough. Zelena can't do that; she constantly judges herself by others and is unable to handle other people being treated even slightly well around her, because she perceives that as a threat. And when she does get jealous, all she does is get petty and whine. She never would have been able to make much of herself; she has the motivation, but not that inner drive.
People can change. I may get backlash for saying this but I always rooted for Zelena, hoping that she would be able to turn over a new leaf and make a change in herself and for herself. I understand exactly what she went through. What she must have been feeling. Hopeless. Worthless. Not able to trust anyone, even her closest friends. Although my father insists that he loved me, I never felt wanted by him. He chose to stay away. I feel like, although it may not be the case, he chose my younger sister over me. She was there with him through her childhood.
It's not that easy to let go...
Actually all 3 grew up the same way; zelena was unwanted by her adoptive father and treated like she was a burden and HE was the first person to call her wicked.
Zelena was ABANDONED BY EVERYONE.
Anton-Constantin and treated as a monster as a freak
But Zelena made something of herself. She grew up to be strong and powerful, albeit resented. She became the powerful Wicked Witch and she enslaved Rumple and kicked Regina's butt. Sure, she lost in the end, but she did far more than just being "petty". Besides, even Regina had her weakness: she blamed Snow White for what happened to Daniel and then instead of accepting that what happened was only her mother's fault, she unleashed her frustration on hundreds of innocent people. Both the Mill sisters were at some point unable to cope with the unfair things that happened to them. They both took their frustration out on innocent people. What matters is that eventually they both managed to put the past behind and turn over a new leaf.
This is literally completely Zelena's fault. 2 seconds before she threw her fit she was telling Rumple "I'll give you whatever you want" and Zelena could have gotten EVERYTHING out of a deal with Rumple in exchange for those shoes, Regina dead, recognition and power, but she got impulsive and blew it
That’s the point. Zelena wanted that naturally, not by contract. The same jealousy Regina had with her kingdom preferring Snow
Zelena says she's not naive but she is😁at least in these flashbacks!I mean Cora was smart,charismatic and someone that could even manipulate Rumple himself!of course she hold a lot of grudge for so many people and had emotions but she wasn't that kind of clingy that makes her unbearable and instead made her more charming!Regina while hating Snow and blaming her for her misery,still only wanted freedom and that made her turn against Cora and while she had nothing to do after that,started avenging Daniel once she couldn't get him back!while even she screwed up as a villain and queen so many times,but still her pride was everything for her and like Cora she used more charm and even taunting Rumple himself rather than being clingy to him!Zelena on the other hand starts everything just for the jealousy which came out of no where?😂I mean I wouldn't blame her for hating Cora but the first thing she did was blaming everything on Zelena!didn't she knew that when Cora gave birth to her,had no idea that someday she's gonna have another daughter named Regina?different of all of that what kind of a terrible mother Cora was to Regina?I mean starting everything just by simply putting all blames on Regina!and in here literally being clingy to Rumple and begging him to be chosen and...I could see she's not gonna be his choice!
Regina was not as powerful as zelena. Zelena was a magic prodigy she could do powerful magic at a young age even when she was just five, and regina couldnt even make a simple firebal as an adult.... but with excesive training regina became stronger than zelena but Zelana's pendant made her super powerful and protected her so that only light magic can hurt her
But now that regina has light magic she can easily overpower zelenas magic even with the pendant. And in Season 6 the evil regina almost killed Zelena
Don’t forget that Regina’s evil side has proven to be stronger than Zelena too. She nearly killed her after a short fight.
If she had calmed down and not been a hot head, she'd have gotten Rumple to choose her because of the slippers. Blind rage/jealousy smh
Regina: Love is weakness
Zelena: Love is dangerous
Zelena's actress is incredibe love her❤❤❤❤
Zelena actually looks like Mila lmao
So does she love him like a daughter loves her father? Or love him like ...? I'm confused. Just watched this episode. Please no spoilers : )
I think she's in love with him because there is a scene between between Rumple and Regina that makes Zelena jealous
COOLEST CHARACTER IN THE WHOLE SHOW !
It's be cool if it turned out that rumpelstiltskin was the lion from the wizard of oz (and it'd make sense cos he has no courage)
I've never understood why Rumple was painted as a coward. The only cowardly thing I remember him doing was abandoning Bae.
Him injuring himself before the war actually seems brave to me. He knew that he would die, leaving his son without a father and his wife without a husband if he tried to fight, but he also knew that everyone would shun him as a coward if he chose to live. Even though he knew everyone would hate him, he chose to live.
He did the same thing when Hook wanted to fight him, he chose humiliation over the possibility of leaving his son without a father. He did this again when begging the recruiter who wanted Bae to fight in the war.
He repeatedly gave up his pride for those he loved, even if they didn't understand or appreciate it.
Even when he abandoned Bae he has a defense. The dagger was known to make the person its connected to, feel a dependance on it and it manipulates their minds. So Rumple would have to resist the dagger and get over whatever fear he had (because let's be honest, going through a portal to a unknown world is terrifying, especially given his history with portals).
I definitely don't think he was a brave man, but I also don't think he was worthy of being treated like a cowardly pile of dirt.
He was Scarecrow, tho.
Can you even stab someone with a knife like that?
I think it's a cuthroat razor. If so, just ask Alan Rickman in Sweeney Todd!
Zelena first happy ending she rejects of 6. She could of gone and be with her sister. Be with the family she been searching for. Wanting and longing. Instead grew jealous and went to rumple Instead. The beginning of her Wanting everything Regina has.
Wow even without Zelena holding Rumple's dagger he even can't touch Zelena to kill her? Zelena is far more powerful than Rumple is that so. Now with the dagger in Zelena no wonder Rumple can't do anything
It's more the fact that he made the mistake of teaching her everything he knows, which means he has no tricks left up his sleeve - she already KNOWS it all. Plus he underestimated her, so he didn't expect her to teleport on him. That's not really a sign of magical talent; just how bad Rumple can be at judging people.
It's hard to say who's exactly stronger between the two. But aside from that, Rumple knows too much about Zelena. If he were to go against her, he would use what he knows of her against her.
Rumple nearly killed Zelena later on. She only survived because of the deal they made.
I'm just like zelena and green with envy and older than my younger sister
Guess I couldn't cast his curse either.
Me I've me you bodnf my own brother and my sister is in a coma for me and I don't have can😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃🖤🖤🖤
I think Zelena can win a fight with Rumple, also the Snow Queen after gaining her light magic could have beat Rumple! I would just love to see Cora & Zelena to meet!!
There is no way she could defeat the Dark One in a head on fight.
Considering she lost to Regina (both her light and dark versions), I think not.
@Francisco Leyva Martin fuck you
@@TTUploads zelena defeated regina what are u talking about and when regina used light magic she barley gave zelena a headache she just fell long enough for them to get the dagger in her pendent
@@jamainegardner4193 i really feel like she could but we never seen rumple fight another person with magic
JOHN 14:6 JESUS SAITH UNTO HIM, I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE: NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE FATHER, BUT BY ME."
Rumplestiltskin's my favourite character but it's good to see him outmaneouvred for once.
The Wicked And The West She Stay Away Rumplslstkin
King finally
Dear grumpy
So I'm guessing she's the wicked witch of the because 1)u have to kill her to get the shoes 2) she has the shoes 3) It makes sense
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So do we ship them or is he her father?
Rumpzel! Rumpzel! :L
My thoughts exactly
DawntheGreat8 Ikr? Well, after seeing that picture of them two kissing I'll take a wild guess he's not her father :L
unless of course she controlled him and made him do it. that's always a possibility
DawntheGreat8 True. Maybe she even changed his memories :O But still if they kiss like that he can't be her father! And he was my first suspect of a father when I learned she was Cora's daughter :/
Cora had Zelena back when she was poor. Cora and Rumple secretly dated while Cora war planning her wedding with Regina's father. If Cora was pregnant with Zelena as a princess I can't imagine why she'd give her up.
rumple is fun,e as all git out
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Know ingkl and
Wishing I was zelena
Did it not rain in the enchanted forest?
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Go Zelena!
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