They both sound good in their own particular way. However, with the Schiit I feel more connected as it provides more soul to the music for me, kind of like being there - in a live performance.
Topping e30 : the thinner regarding sound balance, layers separation not easy. It works fine, but less magic. Modi multibit : More full bodied and natural. Very fluid, presency of a small grain not unpleasant (slight distortion maybe, but well managed). Good holoraphic effect. Chord mojo: Full bodied like Mojo for tonal balance. Very fluid, no grain, very transparent. The best for audible layers/instruments separation.
@andreamyself I used a basic USB cable. I also used a basic Monoprice Toslink cable. I am curious to try a glass Toslink cable. The difference between the USB & optical wasn't night & day. The USB sounded good. It is nothing worth redesigning a system for. I am curious to try the coax input as well so I ordered a new sound card with one but if there is a change that could be the card itself. I actually also just ordered the Shiit Multibit based on mykeldg's videos. I thought the bass on the E30 was incredible compared to the build-in DAC on a Cambridge Audio AVR. From these videos the Multibit bass sounds wildly improved over the E30, especially on the "Jazz Rock" track. For $250 I couldn't resist trying it out.
@andreamyself Thanks I'll check that cable out. I'm using the USB to a Samsung 5v phone charger plugged into the wall. Should I be looking into any other power sources?
To the people commenting on what sounds better state what you're listening on via headphones/speakers/IEM's - identify what source, a comp (with a soundcard/what sound chip)/streamer etc.
Multibit sounds like a natural live performance with better air around the instruments to breathe and travel. Mojo sounds like a smaller studio recording with sound proofing on the walls to dampen the transients. Multibit is balanced if maybe light on the lows. Mojo is bass forward with emphasis on the mids. Stereo separation is superior on the Multibit. The mojo has a center channel focus.
I picked up a first gen Mojo because it sounded great in your comparison video. Thanks! 😊 TLDR: I initially had a Shiit Modi 3+ dac in my home stereo stack, and I thought it was my speakers/amp that gave my music a bit of hardness in the high end. But, when I swapped in my Mojo, everything smoothed out, and my system had a nicer refined musical character to it. I’m amazed how much dacs can make a difference, and I’m now a Chord fan. I picked up a Modi Heresy amp, to play with my Modi 3+, and it initially sounded good with my Sennheiser HD600’s. But, when I listened to the Mojo through my HD600’s, it was a game changer for me. I can no longer listen to my Schiit stack, because it no longer sounds good to my ears. I can’t wait to pick up a Mojo 2 for my headphones, and maybe a Qutest for my stereo system.
I recently picked up a first Gen mojo as well, my local AD still had the demo unit and I got a deal + warranty. It’s awesome paired to my Meze elites, and an incredible value dollar for dollar. I have an RME as well, but haven’t turned it on since I’ve picked up the mojo! Maybe it’s a honeymoon phase, both are incredible but the easy use nature of the mojo is awesome.
Thank you for your videos, which I really appreciate. Even if my comment is a little late for your video. I had a Mojo 2 for a week until last Friday. I returned it because there was one feature that I couldn't get right. Many reviews say that you can use the Mojo or Mojo 2 as a desktop device... just set the volume to 2 or 3 volts and connect it to the preamp. The sound is great, analog, detailed and never tiring in the mids, wonderful. But... Mojo 2 (or Mojo in your case in the video) is bloated, spongy and uncontrolled in the bass. The really low bass has no energy. Even my Node is better and it doesn't boom. I've never heard this criticism on YT or the web. It was strange that everyone was satisfied with the bass as a desktop device, I have no headphones. Now I've heard your video and to my ears it has the same effect. The bass is thickened and the notes have this overhang, they don't stop immediately. It sounds like my at homeI with my Mojo 2. I have Klipschorns that may make this effect even more unbearable due to their efficiency. I tried to get used to it over four evenings with the Mojo 2 as a line-out DAC because the mids and the soundstage are so fantastic. But after an hour I couldn't stand the drone at around 100 Hz anymore. Fortunately, I was still able to return the Mojo 2 for a full refund. My guess as a technical layman is that the headphone amp is simply not designed to match a preamp or integrated amp line in. These headphone amps have less than one ohm output impedance and much more current flows than with a line in signal, even if the volts match. Somehow a line in can't handle that in my perception. I ordered the Schiit Multibit 2 yesterday and I'm as happy as a child. I only got to know the MB2 recently, also with the help of your video (even if it was the older MB), and it has an output that is made for pre-amps. In your video, the bass of the Mode Multibit is much more contoured and powerful, but unobtrusive and without booming.
I couldn't decide which DAC I want to buy, which one will suit me better, but thanks to you and your videos, now I 100% know what I want - it's Chord Mojo 2)
Really cool test, I have a Mimby coming soon and am super excited after listening to this. The Mimby sounded more spacious to me, like the female vocals sounded more like they were recorded in a small bar, whereas the chord sounded like they were recorded in a tiny room. I play a lot of guitar, and the the Mimby guitar sounded slightly more like a real guitar to me with what seemed like extra harmonics that guitarists are always looking for in their overdrive/distortion. Felt more impact from the drums in the Rock music played by the Chord tho
This is also my observation. Overall mimby is a lot more closer to how you would hear a band practicing in a studio with a bit more spaciousness in it. I used to play before so I have a bit of reference. The bass just maybe throws me a bit off since it is not as tightly presented as it is in mojo. But even so, I like mimby's bass better. Also, I find mojo a bit harsher in the highs.
I would be happy with both but the Mojo just begs to be cranked louder for full enjoyment and I mean this is a very good way. Mojo delivers clean, composed and precise sound that it almost wants you to listen to your music louder or just plain loud so as to get yourself in the middle of it all. The Modi Multibit reminds me of the a very good vintage integrated amplifier but with finer details, perfect for a relaxing way of listening to your music.
I agree. The Mojo needs to get cranked up a bit, to hear the definition of vocals more. It’s nicely balanced though, and the sound stage draws you in more to the music. I just need to be more mindful about how loud a listen to the Mojo through my headphones now, because I’m not used to having to listen at higher volumes. Especially, because the Mojo has a rich, non fatiguing sound… even at higher volumes. By contrast, my Schiit stack sounds more forward and hard edged. It’s a lot less refined, and I find myself having to adjust the volume knob up & down while listening to a song.
Really? I find the Mimby to have a warm analog sound. Kids hate my Mimby because it is too laid back. Is the Mojo really more like vinyl? If so, I'll check into it. I have heard that the Mojo doesn't even have RCA outputs?
I find the mimby more "loose sounding" which makes it resonate (perhaps distort/color) in seamingly intended matter to that of an instrument, maybe some additional reverbial color over the more strict but still forgiving mojo. In "Transients", you can hear the mimby slower speed nearly veil the rest of the faster dynamics whereas the mojo keeps up with everything. However, the slower speed makes the mimby generate a nice musical blend that is relaxing more than forceful since the mimby generates a whole lot of space for instruments to expand and shine on their own Vs the Mojo that tries to add every note on top of each other but ends up coughing through the bass and having a hard time to control the fatiguing treble.
as a former musician, I can only say that the modi multibit, atleast to me, sounds closer to what a real instrument sounds like in real life than the mojo (and other DS dacs) which sounds processed smoothed over with various supersampling methods. I also noticed the image size in the modi multibit has the scale of real life. in the mojo the singer & drums sounds smaller. (relatively speaking)
The Shiit takes it. Much wider soundstage. The Mojo sounds small. I only wish the Shiit was a little tighter in the bass. The highs & 3D sound in the Shiit are very pleasant. I have the Topping E30 but I am considering trying this Multibit.
Very interesting; I'm using LCD-X headphones to listen to this comparison. I've only listened to one take and the rock sample stood out. Near the beginning there is an echo like sound of what sounds like a far off guitar whine, and you can really feel it with the mod MB but sounds less so with the Chord. In general it seems like Modi MB sounds closer to natural sound and you can really feel the sound (more 3d?). Neither is bad but I think MB is the winner here.
Have you applied a custom EQ on the mojo, or is it standard factory settings? Which one did you prefer in your setup? In this video i think the multibit feels thicker, warmer, pleasant relaxed presentation. The chord sounds more punchy, revealing, the reverbdecay in one of the songs sounds more textured and present, more air between instruments, to my ear in this particular video. Keep up your good work!
@@mykeldg Hi, do you think the mimby is a keeper? Generally I use the internal dac of my hegel h95, but with chord mojo it add up a little more holographic presentation. Last night I found the mimby on a 135 usd price tag. I went for it as I was courious of it sound as per all the very good reviews, but I don't know if it can add up something to what I alredy got.
Nice review. I just wondering how it would work an audio interface la like the Motu M4 compares with DAC as the Mojo and the Modi. I am using my audio interface as DAC no my desktop gear, and I am quite happy. I use it as DAC, pre-amp, headphone amplifier and of course I use it with my microphone for doing recordings, video-conferences and also to digitalize my records and cassettes. I get balanced outputs too that I could Connect to an amplifier or powered speakers with balanced inputs But, Am I really losing something in quality when I use it as a DAC Compare with DAC like Chord Mojo and Schiit Modi MB? What do you think? Could you do a test like that?
Mojo sounds like bright tracking spot on sound palette. Maybe it is a more turntablish sound, because the needle cannot be in few position or moving infinity fast. Multibit has on other side, all sounds simultaneously, not too delicate and fine but more vivid. By the way switch between this dac like switching between Naim and top Yamaha amplifiers, Japan’s sound technically more correct, but Naim more engaging:)))
Hi Sir, I have a system which consist of a Cambridge Audio CXA81 Integrated Amplifier, Cambridge Audio CXC CD Transport and Tannoy Revolution XT6F Tower Speakers. The only source I use for music are CDs. I just want to get your expert advice if there will be an improvement in sound quality if I use the Schiit Modi Multibit(Mimby) as my external DAC for my Cambridge Audio CXC CD Transport? Currently, I am connecting my CXC CD Transport via the coaxial input of the Cambridge Audio CXA81 Integrated Amplifier which has an onboard ESS Sabre ES9016K2M DAC. Hope to hear your response. Thank you.
HI Manuel, I haven't heard the CXA81 onboard dac but it is supposedly already very decent especially since it is sharing the cleaner linear power supply of the amp. But if you are curious about multibit dacs, in comparison to my previous dac, Topping D50s which had dual ESS 9032, the Multibit is noticeably more life-like / analog and fleshed out compared to the D50s. Vocals are more forward and real. Instrument timbre is better as well. There is more depth and 3d-dimensionality to the mimby. That said, one of the drawbacks of Multibit is it doesn't measure or sound as clean and is limited to 16bit/44khz so hires is out of the question (you can still play hires though). I think I have an old recording here of ESS vs Mimby, see if you like how it sounds : ruclips.net/video/ByV84B54_Xs/видео.html
The differences get more apparent with vocals. Tonally I think I prefer the Mojo, it comes closer to what I feel sounds natural. Like a well balanced photo with the right amount of contrast. I feel the Modi Multibit has slightly less contrast between dark and bright, it is more mid focused. It makes the sound flatter. When it comes to timbre I prefer the Modi Multibit, it is overall softer sounding, there is less hardness and edginess but at the same time, because it is more mid focused the sound is more textured, it has some more grit, but a pleasant kind of grit. It reminds me of the Marantz sound.
With my Philips SHP9500s headphones on my uDAC-3 headphone amp, the Mojo swept all the song clips in terms of performance. The difference in the way the two DACs resolve the clips is VERY apparent with these headphones. In particular, the male and female vocal clips were very three-dimensional; I could sense the air / the sense of space around the performers. It also swept the other categories, but by less of a margin than the aforementioned two categories. When I used my Koss KPH30i, the differences between the two DACs were far less obvious. Although each DAC sounded different on these two sets of headphones, the KOSS do not have enough resolution to recreate the MOJO's 3D effect to same extent it was retrieved by the Philips headphones (again, the Mojo won every category when using the Philips headphones). What does this mean? It means that unless you have high-resolution associated gear, you might be better off saving some dollars and getting the Modi Multi. If you DO have higher-resolution gear, you may want to strongly consider the Mojo over the Modi Multibit. Again, the main benefit of the Mojo is the sense of air around performers it provides, over the relatively 'flat' (by comparison) sound of the MM.
@@mykeldg By the way, I am searching for a DAC to replace one of my uDACs (one that's currently feeding my main system). I want to upgrade that (loooonnng overdue - there's always something else to buy), and was looking at the MM. I was also toying with the idea of the Mojo, but it's a bit more $$ than I want to spend, really. That said, this video of yours has convinced me that I should be looking for a used Mojo. My main system is revealing enough to show the differences for certain, so I'm glad I happened to see this vid of yours. I used to own a high-end DAC from MSB, but those days are long gone, unfortunately. ha! Oh well! Life! Cheers!
The Mojo Multibit renders instruments far better than the mojo. It has the feel of being live. Mojo sort of sends all the instruments to the background and focusses on the vocals
This type of audition is of limited means. You have to consider the limitations of RUclips, YOUR recording mic, and what I am listening to on my end (my system). Cheers!
This is actually just for my personal references. Im not a reviewer and thought id just share it here for my friends and the rest of the internet should they choose to view along for the fun of it. The differences are discernible but only if i use a decent pair of neutral headphones but yes nowhere near how it sounds in real life.
I don’t think this is a disservice at all and have a very different opinion as an actual aspiring audiophile. I have watched a ton of @mykeldg’s videos and appreciate that I can use them as a resource, because they still have value even if they have limitations. My options of comparing gear are to either (1) buy all of the gear all at once to compare in my own home myself (which is not going to happen), or to (2) find a close approximation to that. Im not looking for these videos to be a perfect, exact representation of what the gear themselves would sound like in my home, but instead just want to know how they sound **relative to one other. It’s helped me a lot. Anyways, @mykeldg - thank you for all of the time and effort you put into making these videos! There are some aspiring audiophiles that appreciate it. :) PS, it’s always touching to see your daughter rock out - we have another budding music fan! 🤘🏼
@@DistroUser I find it the opposite. aspiring audiophiles are more encouraged this way without being intimidated from the stigma of snobbery from grumpy "veteran" audiophiles and their high horses. They are free to explore thousands of options, videos, articles and discussions online which all adds up to a more sound decision. Store demos are the best yes but that comes from a place of privilege. As someone from 3rd world country who has limited access to demo hifi gear (especially during pandemic), sometimes demos like this are good enough to factor in as one of the metric. Your mileage may vary.
Mojo sounds like bright tracking spot on sound palette. Maybe it is a more turntablish sound, because the needle cannot be in few position or moving infinity fast. Multibit has on other side, all sounds simultaneously, not too delicate and fine but more vivid. By the way switch between this dac like switching between Naim and top Yamaha amplifiers, Japan’s sound technically more correct, but Naim more engaging:)))
Mojo is lightly better. Cleaner, a bit more accurate listening to headphones on youtube. But I don't feel its twice the price better. Id get the modi if Im in the market for a dac
To me , Mojo never sounded at its best when connected via USB. Last week, I just rediscovered the Mojo after connected them via SPDIF COAX and they sounded like a prior Mojo but more ballsy, richer, dynamics and much more holographic with better separation. Its like I added a high quality power supply to the already great dacs. In case if you have already connected them via Coax, then I take it, this video demo as it is. If not, you should try them via Coax
I agree. even a lowly chromecast audio connected to the mojo (via optical) indeed sounded much more holographic and blacker in background. I can imagine that if connect to a more able source like the poly or a decent streamer / spdif bridge would even further the mojos sq. I also added linear psu to the mojo and it did a tiny bit better as well.
@@mykeldg I connect them out of SPDIF out of my DAP, DX200. Immediately sounds black background. Compared to USB out of computer and my iphone, it sounds relatively flat, muffled and pretty harsh on the midrange with limp dynamic. How do you think Mojo thru Optical connection vs Mimby? Is Mimby still better or on par?
@@boboiboy9350 I think the Mojo is already better than the Mimby via USB where the Mojo is far cleaner, clearer and blacker. Its just preference on the sound sig I guess. The only advantage of the Mimby is in the staging where its is a bit more holographic and extends further beyond the speakers where as the mojo is narrower
Surprised by how much more enjoyable sound of the Modi Multibit is. Instruments sound more complete and powerful. There seems to be an "intentional grit" that is more pleasant, in contrast to the cleanliness of the Mojo.
The Mojo is a LOT better than the multibit, but you might not know it unless you know what to look for or haven't had really good stuff before. For $250 the multibit is a dirt bike going 80mph, gritty skin of your teeth, exciting, very fun. Working out in your garage getting that bike to really buzz (hence the graininess)! The Mojo has way better command of soundstage. Background is darker. Instruments are timed way better. Has better control over everything. That's what you pay $500 for, a reputable DAC from a reputable brand. But of course Schiit is budget stuff, so we enjoy it for what it is. However if your source is all digital, it's hard to argue against the cost of the Mojo. Way smoother, more elegant, will definitely pull you in more "seductively". The question is what headphones it pairs with? Would it be good with a 6xx? Very nice equipment. Thank you for posting.
yup, I agree with you. Mojo does sound superior in lower noise floor and transients. There is just some fun open, more real-life sound from the multibit that may win the hearts of others. I used to play in a band and recorded in studios -- the Modi multibit sounds much closer to the sound of real instruments IMO. For example drums and cymbals, these things can sound extremely raw, unrefined, uneven and can sound harsh in real life with lots of textures, overtones -- all these are preserved in the multibit sound, in my opinion, and not smoothed out by supersampling like the mojo does.
@andreamyself I also thought the Mojo sounded a bit liquid. I can hear that its superior but the Mimby somehow sounds more open, free and engaging, albeit not as well composed and defined as the mojo
I would have stated the almost exactly the same thing. The Mojo presents music more flowing live in my IEM's I have on now. For some music the Schiit will be enjoyable for the in your face more two dimensional image. I would want to buy both - why not.
@@mag4633 I personally wish Chord came into the market with a more budget-friendly FPGA DAC around $200. It makes it hard to buy into their philosophy without first taste testing it. I have the Bifrost Multibit now and I doubt the Mojo can compare. Bifrost is excellent multibit with its own power-in for better power cables, it doesn't run on battery, it has USB-B-in, a phase inverter switch, an on-off switch, and their USB-in is immensely clean. The two are incomparable, Bifrost is many times better for its features. A better comparison might be Bifrost/Gumby with Chord Qutest. Chord is an upscale distributor, so while Schiit sells the Yggdrasil, Chord has the Dave and Hugo. It annoys me a little bit that Chord is taken as utter truth in England, I'd like to see it compared to Schiit by What-Hi-Fi but that will never happen. The English protect their own plus it's all ad-revenue based. I can say that after experiencing Multibit I have no interest in Chord anymore. Maybe if hi-fi shows come back I'll give them another chance. I also read bad reviews of Chord stuff for their being way too analytical over other things you might want in a DAC. Some people call multibit euphonic, but I think it's the best DAC-style I've encountered. It really brings out the best in music, equal to a good turntable without the scratches or mess. Of course, hi-fi is all about money. The more you spend the better you get. You could get a Holo May DAC for $5G ahead of a Yggdrasil. It's really about how resolving your system is. I prefer multibit for now though with my level of budget. Besides, the Mojo is pitched as a transportable DAC presumably for travel.
I definitely hear the difference which is strange at first but very interesting. Modi Multi sounds quite similar to my Fulla 3 (yes I'm a noob) but with Mojo, I feel like I'm in the room rather than songs are playing inside my head, and I hear certain details that I don't pick up from Modi. I don't know... I like both.
youre right. the chord mojo is pretty impressive! mojo sounds technically superior than the MM. its transparent, focused and has superior depth. the MM has less clarity but sounds more open has better timbre and soundstage width IMO.
@@mykeldg Yes, I completely agree with this. That is not to say the MM is not a good DAC; it may be less resolving, but it does have its strengths that still warrant consideration, especially if cost is a factor.
@@mykeldg Yes, that's what I feel listening with a AKG K240M here. The MM sounds more open but rougher if I may. The mid frequency vocal part could be more present than Mojo. That's why I was wondering how it sounds in real environment, could be better or worse. Glad that your description fits what I hear from your recording. I own a mojo, by the way😀
Well i laugh when i read some of the comments still claiming Chord Mojo being the better dac here in this test. I own a couple of DACs including D90 MQA and Schiit Multibit. I just did a side to side test with my brother who was looking for a new dac and we tested Denafrips Terminator. So i would say our ears were kind of trained this few weeks listening to a few quality dacs. So when listen to this recording by @mykeldg it confirm my own assesment too. Yes the multibit is not the quitest dac but then the sound stage is amazingly wide and it gives you the best holographic almost 3D like into the music. The D90 is really a darker & quieter dac thus you hear alot of details from your music. I do also agree multibit bass is not as tight as D90. The terminator is all the above. But i am not ready to spend that level on a dac so for my listening the schiit multibit is my go to dac today. Thanks to @mykeldg work the recording is really helpful. Perhaps i should get a good mic and share my findings.
Michael Lok yeah i actually kept the multibit as it beat the $600 mojo atleast for my taste. I really like r2r dacs alot more but Im still curious about the d90. im just worried it would sound a bit like my other topping dacs which are flatter in depth even though they are super clean.
mykeldg I like the D90 for some other reason e.g. Bluetooth capable sometimes you just want to stream from your phone when you get home or when viewing your RUclips channel LOL 😂. The D90 has a really good and quiet background that gives you the feeling you can hear a pin drop seriously. The D90 emphasis is an overall sound quality that’s what I think why so many people like it. I like the D90 too but it’s not like the R2R dac sound signature where it give you that 3D Holographic image. The D90 is more of a clean and neutral performer with a tighter bass. Many will be as happy and satisfied with getting a D90 becos of that. However like you after I listen to R2R from headphones to a big systems I cannot get away from R2R anymore. And you won’t believe I actually using the multibit from my Schiit Asgard as a Pre Amp to my Hegel H360 and it still sound wonderful although it lack the D90 in terms of background noise. I just added a Musical Paradise 701 tube preamp to blow up the 3D sound of man , it is like as if you standing next to the singer and the band bro !
Hi @@michaellok9918 I have a D90MQA, that's the dac that I own after long absence from hi-fi. Thinking to get another DAC as alternative to D90, any idea? Hopefully not to far from d90 price. R2R?
Hi@@faridmaruf3102 in my humble opinion since you already experience D90 a delta sigma DAC the obvious choice would be to try an R2R DAC. The journey for R2R is going to cost a bit more as quality component matters in R2R construction. Denafrips Ares 2, Schiit Bifrost MB or the Musician Pegasus which I recently switch to are all pretty amazing. These 3 models are price pretty close. I think once you go to R2R its going to be hard moving back to delta sigma DAC. LOL 😂
I use it exclusively for speakers. I feel like the Modi Multibit sounds more open and engaging than the Mojo (which is more than 2x the price). However Mojo is faster, cleaner, clearer, richer mids, blacker background albeit a bit liquid sounding and not as open.
Actually i like more mojo. Maybe its less straight forward and open, but its more organic and smooth, easier to listen to. And in my country Lithuania Mojo has same price as multibit. Both arround 350-400$ with shipping and etc. But Mojo is less timeproof, because of the battery life... one day it will be dead. Anyway, thanks for great videos! P.s. yours dyns has surprisingly much bass, wow.
T. J. Wow the multibit is that expensive in ur country? In my country, i can get both used for around $200. Mojo’s battery can be disconnected and be used as a desktop dac. I saw a YT video of it but haven’t tried it yet since the mojo i have is just a loaner.
I was not going to reply since it's been so long and odd that you are doing so AGAIN. I still stand by what I have written, truth is in the experience and that can only be known IN PERSO N, it has nothing to do with snobbery. I just returned a bed in a box from an online retailer and found that it was very uncomfortable for me. I should have known better, how can you know what the bed truly feels like unless you sleep on it? How can you know what a food taste like unless you eat it? There is nothing else to say here, enjoy your videos...PEACE!
well you can't really audition beds & food on youtube. but hey man this is a fun hobby and I don't see any need for divisiveness on such tiny things. this hobby is mostly for fun & entertainment. If it doesn't work for you -- it doesn't -- its all good and I respect that. Enjoy and keep safe !
Hi. Can write me what song are you playing in this demo. Special the one with the guitar only, it is very good for testing. Thanks in advance. P.s. my younger son saw it as a animation to dance, because he saw your douther doing it. For him misguided video...hahaah.
@@mykeldg, and the other DAC is schiit modi multibit 1 or 2? Or just schiit modi multibit DAC? I already have the mojo, I want to buy the second DAC because it has a power supply, which I believe so.
@@ogunrotimifemi6388 its the multibit v2. I now have mojo 2. Its a bit better than all dacs over tried. But if youre craving for a different flavor, bifrost 2 would be the way to go
Eu estou pensando em comprar um modi schiit óptico para ter a primeira experiência na área dos dacs, quero ligar minha tv no meu receiver denon e meu player de música, você acha que vale a pena ? Para iniciantes? Obs: valor da compra uns 90 dólares
Schiit is absolute winner between these 2 for me. First - attack. Schiit sounds like with studio compessor. Sound engineers will understand me. Second- mids. Shiit is more natural sounding and has more body. Third- transients. They are better with Shiit.
@@mykeldg Hi! Please tell me if there is a difference in the quality of manufacture or sound between devices labeled "Made in USA" and "Assembled in USA"? Or is it the same thing?
Problem with RUclips reviewers is that can't go to very extremes in praising to a particular brand. That won't go very well in long term as they won't get gear from other brands to test. That's the reason products like mojo don't get recognised much against the poorly designed products.
The mojo's performance surprised me. I was expecting it to do on par or below the newer Topping DACs (since those measure excellently and incrementally better than the mojo). But to my surprise, it performed the best out of all the dacs i've tested in giving a blacker background, way better depth, lightning fast transients and doesn't have the usual treble glare. If I would just nitpick, maybe the Mojo has a slightly less-wide/less-open sound and slightly warmer than neutral.
@@mykeldg when im distortion is less it allows for more depth cues since distortion affects both channel. More depth cues means less width perception. That's the reason dacs other than mojo sound wider. It's like cross talk. More cross talk you have wider the perception. Vinyl has this tendency more exaggerated that's why the music earlier used to be recorded with more ping pong effect to compensate for cross talk. Even chord introduced cross feed feature to reduce ping pong effect which brings the sound stage in front from in your head.
@@mykeldg mojo measures better than any topping dac except balance xlr out topping dacs. Don't go by audiosciencereview.com that person is heavily biased against chord.
Multibit is the new technology to rule them all. Maybe needs time to perfect the stupid measurements, but this is uncannily alive. The other DACs are reproduction. The other DACs may be preserved only because multibit is too intimate for public sphere or too engaging for casual listening. Also to have classic sound as from one time.
multibit is not the new technology actually. R2R based conversion has been around for decades. Their measurement are always like that. Hence, explain their unique characters to the sound but objectivists always come at ya for saying it sounds broken and distorted
I feel like the Mojo is the Technically superior one but I enjoy the sound more from the Mimby. More open sound, timbre a bit more natural, more immersive soundstage, more toe tapping despite Mojo sounding superior if you listen for it.
Chord doesn’t give a f to an upper range. Like “eat what we cooked”. That’s a shame. They can do better but for small money you have to be a sht. Will never purchase any Chord
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Jazz Rock: Modi 00:01 , Mojo 1:08
Male Vocals: Modi 2:33 , Mojo 3:25
Transients: Modi 4:22 , Mojo 5:12
Female Vocals Modi 6:09 , Mojo 6:48
Rock Modi 7:39, Mojo 8:32
Ha mojo means turd in spanish. Turd vs Shiit, the ultimate showdown!
lol
They both sound good in their own particular way. However, with the Schiit I feel more connected as it provides more soul to the music for me, kind of like being there - in a live performance.
Topping e30 :
the thinner regarding sound balance, layers separation not easy. It works fine, but less magic.
Modi multibit :
More full bodied and natural. Very fluid, presency of a small grain not unpleasant (slight distortion maybe, but well managed). Good holoraphic effect.
Chord mojo:
Full bodied like Mojo for tonal balance. Very fluid, no grain, very transparent. The best for audible layers/instruments separation.
great impressions; I pretty much agree to all of it.
Fancy power supply will do nothing to improve the E30 dac. It has built in filtering. Don't waste your money.
@andreamyself I have the E30 and I noticed the optical connection is better sounding than USB. More dynamic, less compressed. Try it.
@andreamyself I used a basic USB cable. I also used a basic Monoprice Toslink cable. I am curious to try a glass Toslink cable. The difference between the USB & optical wasn't night & day. The USB sounded good. It is nothing worth redesigning a system for. I am curious to try the coax input as well so I ordered a new sound card with one but if there is a change that could be the card itself. I actually also just ordered the Shiit Multibit based on mykeldg's videos. I thought the bass on the E30 was incredible compared to the build-in DAC on a Cambridge Audio AVR. From these videos the Multibit bass sounds wildly improved over the E30, especially on the "Jazz Rock" track. For $250 I couldn't resist trying it out.
@andreamyself Thanks I'll check that cable out. I'm using the USB to a Samsung 5v phone charger plugged into the wall. Should I be looking into any other power sources?
I love the Modi Multibit. With the Neve headphone amplifier and the Sony CD3000 headphones, I am so happy with it.
they're really good. You can see I have owned and tested many dacs, this is the top one for my taste.
Same setup but with the Beyerdynamic T1 2nd gen and the Sundara's
i'm more than happy and probably this will be end game for the foreseeable future .
To the people commenting on what sounds better state what you're listening on via headphones/speakers/IEM's - identify what source, a comp (with a soundcard/what sound chip)/streamer etc.
1:54 you scared the shit out of me . . . am home alone listening on my headphones have no dog or anything house is totally quiet and then this happens
...let me guess...those voices came from his cute daughter , in the background 😂
Multibit sounds like a natural live performance with better air around the instruments to breathe and travel. Mojo sounds like a smaller studio recording with sound proofing on the walls to dampen the transients. Multibit is balanced if maybe light on the lows. Mojo is bass forward with emphasis on the mids. Stereo separation is superior on the Multibit. The mojo has a center channel focus.
I picked up a first gen Mojo because it sounded great in your comparison video. Thanks! 😊
TLDR: I initially had a Shiit Modi 3+ dac in my home stereo stack, and I thought it was my speakers/amp that gave my music a bit of hardness in the high end. But, when I swapped in my Mojo, everything smoothed out, and my system had a nicer refined musical character to it. I’m amazed how much dacs can make a difference, and I’m now a Chord fan.
I picked up a Modi Heresy amp, to play with my Modi 3+, and it initially sounded good with my Sennheiser HD600’s. But, when I listened to the Mojo through my HD600’s, it was a game changer for me. I can no longer listen to my Schiit stack, because it no longer sounds good to my ears. I can’t wait to pick up a Mojo 2 for my headphones, and maybe a Qutest for my stereo system.
I recently picked up a first Gen mojo as well, my local AD still had the demo unit and I got a deal + warranty. It’s awesome paired to my Meze elites, and an incredible value dollar for dollar. I have an RME as well, but haven’t turned it on since I’ve picked up the mojo! Maybe it’s a honeymoon phase, both are incredible but the easy use nature of the mojo is awesome.
Thank you for your videos, which I really appreciate. Even if my comment is a little late for your video. I had a Mojo 2 for a week until last Friday. I returned it because there was one feature that I couldn't get right. Many reviews say that you can use the Mojo or Mojo 2 as a desktop device... just set the volume to 2 or 3 volts and connect it to the preamp. The sound is great, analog, detailed and never tiring in the mids, wonderful. But... Mojo 2 (or Mojo in your case in the video) is bloated, spongy and uncontrolled in the bass. The really low bass has no energy. Even my Node is better and it doesn't boom. I've never heard this criticism on YT or the web. It was strange that everyone was satisfied with the bass as a desktop device, I have no headphones. Now I've heard your video and to my ears it has the same effect. The bass is thickened and the notes have this overhang, they don't stop immediately. It sounds like my at homeI with my Mojo 2. I have Klipschorns that may make this effect even more unbearable due to their efficiency. I tried to get used to it over four evenings with the Mojo 2 as a line-out DAC because the mids and the soundstage are so fantastic. But after an hour I couldn't stand the drone at around 100 Hz anymore. Fortunately, I was still able to return the Mojo 2 for a full refund.
My guess as a technical layman is that the headphone amp is simply not designed to match a preamp or integrated amp line in. These headphone amps have less than one ohm output impedance and much more current flows than with a line in signal, even if the volts match. Somehow a line in can't handle that in my perception.
I ordered the Schiit Multibit 2 yesterday and I'm as happy as a child. I only got to know the MB2 recently, also with the help of your video (even if it was the older MB), and it has an output that is made for pre-amps. In your video, the bass of the Mode Multibit is much more contoured and powerful, but unobtrusive and without booming.
I couldn't decide which DAC I want to buy, which one will suit me better, but thanks to you and your videos, now I 100% know what I want - it's Chord Mojo 2)
Really cool test, I have a Mimby coming soon and am super excited after listening to this. The Mimby sounded more spacious to me, like the female vocals sounded more like they were recorded in a small bar, whereas the chord sounded like they were recorded in a tiny room. I play a lot of guitar, and the the Mimby guitar sounded slightly more like a real guitar to me with what seemed like extra harmonics that guitarists are always looking for in their overdrive/distortion. Felt more impact from the drums in the Rock music played by the Chord tho
Good ear! I also used to play drums and did a few studio recordings during my youth and the mimby does sound more lifelike.
This is also my observation. Overall mimby is a lot more closer to how you would hear a band practicing in a studio with a bit more spaciousness in it. I used to play before so I have a bit of reference. The bass just maybe throws me a bit off since it is not as tightly presented as it is in mojo. But even so, I like mimby's bass better. Also, I find mojo a bit harsher in the highs.
I would be happy with both but the Mojo just begs to be cranked louder for full enjoyment and I mean this is a very good way. Mojo delivers clean, composed and precise sound that it almost wants you to listen to your music louder or just plain loud so as to get yourself in the middle of it all. The Modi Multibit reminds me of the a very good vintage integrated amplifier but with finer details, perfect for a relaxing way of listening to your music.
I agree. The Mojo needs to get cranked up a bit, to hear the definition of vocals more. It’s nicely balanced though, and the sound stage draws you in more to the music. I just need to be more mindful about how loud a listen to the Mojo through my headphones now, because I’m not used to having to listen at higher volumes. Especially, because the Mojo has a rich, non fatiguing sound… even at higher volumes.
By contrast, my Schiit stack sounds more forward and hard edged. It’s a lot less refined, and I find myself having to adjust the volume knob up & down while listening to a song.
Mojo is musical , schiit seems to be that clear digital the kids like.
Really? I find the Mimby to have a warm analog sound. Kids hate my Mimby because it is too laid back. Is the Mojo really more like vinyl? If so, I'll check into it. I have heard that the Mojo doesn't even have RCA outputs?
The mojo tone seems smoother and less attacking/shrill
I find the mimby more "loose sounding" which makes it resonate (perhaps distort/color) in seamingly intended matter to that of an instrument, maybe some additional reverbial color over the more strict but still forgiving mojo.
In "Transients", you can hear the mimby slower speed nearly veil the rest of the faster dynamics whereas the mojo keeps up with everything. However, the slower speed makes the mimby generate a nice musical blend that is relaxing more than forceful since the mimby generates a whole lot of space for instruments to expand and shine on their own Vs the Mojo that tries to add every note on top of each other but ends up coughing through the bass and having a hard time to control the fatiguing treble.
as a former musician, I can only say that the modi multibit, atleast to me, sounds closer to what a real instrument sounds like in real life than the mojo (and other DS dacs) which sounds processed smoothed over with various supersampling methods. I also noticed the image size in the modi multibit has the scale of real life. in the mojo the singer & drums sounds smaller. (relatively speaking)
I think that's right on and the Mimby a good match to a system or speakers that are very detailed and lean toward bright - B&W come to mind.
The Shiit takes it. Much wider soundstage. The Mojo sounds small. I only wish the Shiit was a little tighter in the bass. The highs & 3D sound in the Shiit are very pleasant. I have the Topping E30 but I am considering trying this Multibit.
JP Winters ahh finally someone who gets it!
I am starting audiophile which one should I get ? How can I judge both listening in EarPods ?
Very interesting; I'm using LCD-X headphones to listen to this comparison. I've only listened to one take and the rock sample stood out. Near the beginning there is an echo like sound of what sounds like a far off guitar whine, and you can really feel it with the mod MB but sounds less so with the Chord. In general it seems like Modi MB sounds closer to natural sound and you can really feel the sound (more 3d?). Neither is bad but I think MB is the winner here.
To me, when the MoJo is playing, it sounds like the speakers are playing from inside a cardboard box. The Modi sounds more open
Have you applied a custom EQ on the mojo, or is it standard factory settings?
Which one did you prefer in your setup?
In this video i think the multibit feels thicker, warmer, pleasant relaxed presentation. The chord sounds more punchy, revealing, the reverbdecay in one of the songs sounds more textured and present, more air between instruments, to my ear in this particular video.
Keep up your good work!
no eq used on any of my vids. tone controls in the amp are in bypass /
direct mode. I too love the multibit sound more and really miss it.
@@mykeldg Hi, do you think the mimby is a keeper? Generally I use the internal dac of my hegel h95, but with chord mojo it add up a little more holographic presentation.
Last night I found the mimby on a 135 usd price tag. I went for it as I was courious of it sound as per all the very good reviews, but I don't know if it can add up something to what I alredy got.
The BEST , mojo. For me.
Modi has the details, Mojo aces vocals/mids.
Nice review.
I just wondering how it would work an audio interface la like the Motu M4 compares with DAC as the Mojo and the Modi.
I am using my audio interface as DAC no my desktop gear, and I am quite happy.
I use it as DAC, pre-amp, headphone amplifier and of course I use it with my microphone for doing recordings, video-conferences and also to digitalize my records and cassettes.
I get balanced outputs too that I could Connect to an amplifier or powered speakers with balanced inputs
But, Am I really losing something in quality when I use it as a DAC Compare with DAC like Chord Mojo and Schiit Modi MB?
What do you think?
Could you do a test like that?
love for mojo
I hope this is not placebo but I am listening in EarPods and multibit sounds more alive and wide
The multibit is more tangible. The mojo seem to be more airy
Mojo sounds like bright tracking spot on sound palette. Maybe it is a more turntablish sound, because the needle cannot be in few position or moving infinity fast. Multibit has on other side, all sounds simultaneously, not too delicate and fine but more vivid. By the way switch between this dac like switching between Naim and top Yamaha amplifiers, Japan’s sound technically more correct, but Naim more engaging:)))
Hi Sir,
I have a system which consist of a Cambridge Audio CXA81 Integrated Amplifier, Cambridge Audio CXC CD Transport and Tannoy Revolution XT6F Tower Speakers. The only source I use for music are CDs. I just want to get your expert advice if there will be an improvement in sound quality if I use the Schiit Modi Multibit(Mimby) as my external DAC for my Cambridge Audio CXC CD Transport? Currently, I am connecting my CXC CD Transport via the coaxial input of the Cambridge Audio CXA81 Integrated Amplifier which has an onboard ESS Sabre ES9016K2M DAC. Hope to hear your response. Thank you.
HI Manuel, I haven't heard the CXA81 onboard dac but it is supposedly already very decent especially since it is sharing the cleaner linear power supply of the amp. But if you are curious about multibit dacs, in comparison to my previous dac, Topping D50s which had dual ESS 9032, the Multibit is noticeably more life-like / analog and fleshed out compared to the D50s. Vocals are more forward and real. Instrument timbre is better as well. There is more depth and 3d-dimensionality to the mimby. That said, one of the drawbacks of Multibit is it doesn't measure or sound as clean and is limited to 16bit/44khz so hires is out of the question (you can still play hires though). I think I have an old recording here of ESS vs Mimby, see if you like how it sounds : ruclips.net/video/ByV84B54_Xs/видео.html
@@mykeldg thank you so much, Sir. Your advice was really helpful. More power to your channel. Keep safe! :-)
Remember on the schiit you have the option Of OS or NOS.
Schiit natural sound, Chord artificial sound!
The winner is (in my opinion) Schiit. 😉 ✌️
I hope my ordered Asgard 3 w/Multibit sounds as good at this Schiit. No pun intended.
Anyone tried a Pi2eas with Modi multibit ?
I owned both but i like the controled sound of mojo.
can a sony walkman compete with mojo ?
If you need to choose one of them. What will you choose and why?
@@Navneetvaio WM1A beat mojo with 4.4 balanced
The differences get more apparent with vocals. Tonally I think I prefer the Mojo, it comes closer to what I feel sounds natural. Like a well balanced photo with the right amount of contrast. I feel the Modi Multibit has slightly less contrast between dark and bright, it is more mid focused. It makes the sound flatter. When it comes to timbre I prefer the Modi Multibit, it is overall softer sounding, there is less hardness and edginess but at the same time, because it is more mid focused the sound is more textured, it has some more grit, but a pleasant kind of grit. It reminds me of the Marantz sound.
With my Philips SHP9500s headphones on my uDAC-3 headphone amp, the Mojo swept all the song clips in terms of performance. The difference in the way the two DACs resolve the clips is VERY apparent with these headphones. In particular, the male and female vocal clips were very three-dimensional; I could sense the air / the sense of space around the performers. It also swept the other categories, but by less of a margin than the aforementioned two categories.
When I used my Koss KPH30i, the differences between the two DACs were far less obvious. Although each DAC sounded different on these two sets of headphones, the KOSS do not have enough resolution to recreate the MOJO's 3D effect to same extent it was retrieved by the Philips headphones (again, the Mojo won every category when using the Philips headphones).
What does this mean? It means that unless you have high-resolution associated gear, you might be better off saving some dollars and getting the Modi Multi. If you DO have higher-resolution gear, you may want to strongly consider the Mojo over the Modi Multibit.
Again, the main benefit of the Mojo is the sense of air around performers it provides, over the relatively 'flat' (by comparison) sound of the MM.
Awesome impressions. Thank you for sharing.
@@mykeldg My pleasure - I can't get enough of audio / audio gear.
@@mykeldg By the way, I am searching for a DAC to replace one of my uDACs (one that's currently feeding my main system). I want to upgrade that (loooonnng overdue - there's always something else to buy), and was looking at the MM.
I was also toying with the idea of the Mojo, but it's a bit more $$ than I want to spend, really.
That said, this video of yours has convinced me that I should be looking for a used Mojo. My main system is revealing enough to show the differences for certain, so I'm glad I happened to see this vid of yours.
I used to own a high-end DAC from MSB, but those days are long gone, unfortunately. ha! Oh well! Life!
Cheers!
The Mojo Multibit renders instruments far better than the mojo. It has the feel of being live. Mojo sort of sends all the instruments to the background and focusses on the vocals
Both lovely in slightly different ways, a much smaller difference in musicality compared to that baby topping.
This type of audition is of limited means. You have to consider the limitations of RUclips, YOUR recording mic, and what I am listening to on my end (my system). Cheers!
This is actually just for my personal references. Im not a reviewer and thought id just share it here for my friends and the rest of the internet should they choose to view along for the fun of it. The differences are discernible but only if i use a decent pair of neutral headphones but yes nowhere near how it sounds in real life.
@@mykeldg Sadly, I find it a disservice to aspiring audiophiles and yet there are other channels doing the same thing! Almost like fake news.
I don’t think this is a disservice at all and have a very different opinion as an actual aspiring audiophile. I have watched a ton of @mykeldg’s videos and appreciate that I can use them as a resource, because they still have value even if they have limitations. My options of comparing gear are to either (1) buy all of the gear all at once to compare in my own home myself (which is not going to happen), or to (2) find a close approximation to that. Im not looking for these videos to be a perfect, exact representation of what the gear themselves would sound like in my home, but instead just want to know how they sound **relative to one other. It’s helped me a lot. Anyways, @mykeldg - thank you for all of the time and effort you put into making these videos! There are some aspiring audiophiles that appreciate it. :) PS, it’s always touching to see your daughter rock out - we have another budding music fan! 🤘🏼
@@carter7036 thanks, man! appreciate it.
@@DistroUser I find it the opposite. aspiring audiophiles are more encouraged this way without being intimidated from the stigma of snobbery from grumpy "veteran" audiophiles and their high horses. They are free to explore thousands of options, videos, articles and discussions online which all adds up to a more sound decision. Store demos are the best yes but that comes from a place of privilege. As someone from 3rd world country who has limited access to demo hifi gear (especially during pandemic), sometimes demos like this are good enough to factor in as one of the metric. Your mileage may vary.
Mojo sounds prettier, Mimby sounds better.
Mojo sounds like bright tracking spot on sound palette. Maybe it is a more turntablish sound, because the needle cannot be in few position or moving infinity fast. Multibit has on other side, all sounds simultaneously, not too delicate and fine but more vivid. By the way switch between this dac like switching between Naim and top Yamaha amplifiers, Japan’s sound technically more correct, but Naim more engaging:)))
@@ElemianSDS yeap I agree
Mojo is lightly better. Cleaner, a bit more accurate listening to headphones on youtube. But I don't feel its twice the price better. Id get the modi if Im in the market for a dac
Love your choice of Vinnie Colaiuta 🤘
To me , Mojo never sounded at its best when connected via USB. Last week, I just rediscovered the Mojo after connected them via SPDIF COAX and they sounded like a prior Mojo but more ballsy, richer, dynamics and much more holographic with better separation. Its like I added a high quality power supply to the already great dacs. In case if you have already connected them via Coax, then I take it, this video demo as it is. If not, you should try them via Coax
I agree. even a lowly chromecast audio connected to the mojo (via optical) indeed sounded much more holographic and blacker in background. I can imagine that if connect to a more able source like the poly or a decent streamer / spdif bridge would even further the mojos sq. I also added linear psu to the mojo and it did a tiny bit better as well.
@@mykeldg I connect them out of SPDIF out of my DAP, DX200. Immediately sounds black background. Compared to USB out of computer and my iphone, it sounds relatively flat, muffled and pretty harsh on the midrange with limp dynamic. How do you think Mojo thru Optical connection vs Mimby? Is Mimby still better or on par?
@@boboiboy9350 I think the Mojo is already better than the Mimby via USB where the Mojo is far cleaner, clearer and blacker. Its just preference on the sound sig I guess. The only advantage of the Mimby is in the staging where its is a bit more holographic and extends further beyond the speakers where as the mojo is narrower
Surprised by how much more enjoyable sound of the Modi Multibit is. Instruments sound more complete and powerful. There seems to be an "intentional grit" that is more pleasant, in contrast to the cleanliness of the Mojo.
so should every dac add some grit ? :)
как вы подключили chord mojo к стереоусилителю???
using 3.5mm to RCA adapter.
I had the Mojo and i remember that was very detail, is the multibit better for revealing micro details?
yes but more on textures and open-ness. I think mojo is much more black background, more clarity & depth, smoother. the multibit is more euphonic.
@@mykeldg which headphone amp you recommend with it?
The Mojo is a LOT better than the multibit, but you might not know it unless you know what to look for or haven't had really good stuff before. For $250 the multibit is a dirt bike going 80mph, gritty skin of your teeth, exciting, very fun. Working out in your garage getting that bike to really buzz (hence the graininess)!
The Mojo has way better command of soundstage. Background is darker. Instruments are timed way better. Has better control over everything.
That's what you pay $500 for, a reputable DAC from a reputable brand. But of course Schiit is budget stuff, so we enjoy it for what it is. However if your source is all digital, it's hard to argue against the cost of the Mojo. Way smoother, more elegant, will definitely pull you in more "seductively".
The question is what headphones it pairs with? Would it be good with a 6xx? Very nice equipment. Thank you for posting.
yup, I agree with you. Mojo does sound superior in lower noise floor and transients. There is just some fun open, more real-life sound from the multibit that may win the hearts of others.
I used to play in a band and recorded in studios -- the Modi multibit sounds much closer to the sound of real instruments IMO. For example drums and cymbals, these things can sound extremely raw, unrefined, uneven and can sound harsh in real life with lots of textures, overtones -- all these are preserved in the multibit sound, in my opinion, and not smoothed out by supersampling like the mojo does.
@andreamyself I also thought the Mojo sounded a bit liquid. I can hear that its superior but the Mimby somehow sounds more open, free and engaging, albeit not as well composed and defined as the mojo
I would have stated the almost exactly the same thing. The Mojo presents music more flowing live in my IEM's I have on now. For some music the Schiit will be enjoyable for the in your face more two dimensional image. I would want to buy both - why not.
Not the same price. Shouldn't the Mojo be compared to the Bifrost?
@@mag4633 I personally wish Chord came into the market with a more budget-friendly FPGA DAC around $200. It makes it hard to buy into their philosophy without first taste testing it. I have the Bifrost Multibit now and I doubt the Mojo can compare. Bifrost is excellent multibit with its own power-in for better power cables, it doesn't run on battery, it has USB-B-in, a phase inverter switch, an on-off switch, and their USB-in is immensely clean. The two are incomparable, Bifrost is many times better for its features.
A better comparison might be Bifrost/Gumby with Chord Qutest. Chord is an upscale distributor, so while Schiit sells the Yggdrasil, Chord has the Dave and Hugo. It annoys me a little bit that Chord is taken as utter truth in England, I'd like to see it compared to Schiit by What-Hi-Fi but that will never happen. The English protect their own plus it's all ad-revenue based.
I can say that after experiencing Multibit I have no interest in Chord anymore. Maybe if hi-fi shows come back I'll give them another chance. I also read bad reviews of Chord stuff for their being way too analytical over other things you might want in a DAC. Some people call multibit euphonic, but I think it's the best DAC-style I've encountered. It really brings out the best in music, equal to a good turntable without the scratches or mess.
Of course, hi-fi is all about money. The more you spend the better you get. You could get a Holo May DAC for $5G ahead of a Yggdrasil. It's really about how resolving your system is. I prefer multibit for now though with my level of budget.
Besides, the Mojo is pitched as a transportable DAC presumably for travel.
I definitely hear the difference which is strange at first but very interesting. Modi Multi sounds quite similar to my Fulla 3 (yes I'm a noob) but with Mojo, I feel like I'm in the room rather than songs are playing inside my head, and I hear certain details that I don't pick up from Modi. I don't know... I like both.
youre right. the chord mojo is pretty impressive! mojo sounds technically superior than the MM. its transparent, focused and has superior depth. the MM has less clarity but sounds more open has better timbre and soundstage width IMO.
@@mykeldg Well said, I totally agree.
Is fulla or hel having good soundstage
@@mykeldg Yes, I completely agree with this. That is not to say the MM is not a good DAC; it may be less resolving, but it does have its strengths that still warrant consideration, especially if cost is a factor.
@@mykeldg Yes, that's what I feel listening with a AKG K240M here. The MM sounds more open but rougher if I may. The mid frequency vocal part could be more present than Mojo. That's why I was wondering how it sounds in real environment, could be better or worse. Glad that your description fits what I hear from your recording. I own a mojo, by the way😀
Well i laugh when i read some of the comments still claiming Chord Mojo being the better dac here in this test. I own a couple of DACs including D90 MQA and Schiit Multibit. I just did a side to side test with my brother who was looking for a new dac and we tested Denafrips Terminator. So i would say our ears were kind of trained this few weeks listening to a few quality dacs. So when listen to this recording by @mykeldg it confirm my own assesment too. Yes the multibit is not the quitest dac but then the sound stage is amazingly wide and it gives you the best holographic almost 3D like into the music. The D90 is really a darker & quieter dac thus you hear alot of details from your music. I do also agree multibit bass is not as tight as D90. The terminator is all the above. But i am not ready to spend that level on a dac so for my listening the schiit multibit is my go to dac today. Thanks to @mykeldg work the recording is really helpful. Perhaps i should get a good mic and share my findings.
Michael Lok yeah i actually kept the multibit as it beat the $600 mojo atleast for my taste. I really like r2r dacs alot more but Im still curious about the d90. im just worried it would sound a bit like my other topping dacs which are flatter in depth even though they are super clean.
mykeldg I like the D90 for some other reason e.g. Bluetooth capable sometimes you just want to stream from your phone when you get home or when viewing your RUclips channel LOL 😂. The D90 has a really good and quiet background that gives you the feeling you can hear a pin drop seriously. The D90 emphasis is an overall sound quality that’s what I think why so many people like it. I like the D90 too but it’s not like the R2R dac sound signature where it give you that 3D Holographic image. The D90 is more of a clean and neutral performer with a tighter bass. Many will be as happy and satisfied with getting a D90 becos of that. However like you after I listen to R2R from headphones to a big systems I cannot get away from R2R anymore. And you won’t believe I actually using the multibit from my Schiit Asgard as a Pre Amp to my Hegel H360 and it still sound wonderful although it lack the D90 in terms of background noise. I just added a Musical Paradise 701 tube preamp to blow up the 3D sound of man , it is like as if you standing next to the singer and the band bro !
Hi @@michaellok9918 I have a D90MQA, that's the dac that I own after long absence from hi-fi. Thinking to get another DAC as alternative to D90, any idea? Hopefully not to far from d90 price. R2R?
Hi@@faridmaruf3102 in my humble opinion since you already experience D90 a delta sigma DAC the obvious choice would be to try an R2R DAC. The journey for R2R is going to cost a bit more as quality component matters in R2R construction. Denafrips Ares 2, Schiit Bifrost MB or the Musician Pegasus which I recently switch to are all pretty amazing. These 3 models are price pretty close. I think once you go to R2R its going to be hard moving back to delta sigma DAC. LOL 😂
Thanks @@michaellok9918 just pull a trigger on Musician Pegasus. Hopefully can hear that baby sometimes next week.
Nice video. Very impressed with the sound of the modi multibit for the price. In person, do you feel the difference more using speakers or headphones?
I use it exclusively for speakers. I feel like the Modi Multibit sounds more open and engaging than the Mojo (which is more than 2x the price). However Mojo is faster, cleaner, clearer, richer mids, blacker background albeit a bit liquid sounding and not as open.
Actually i like more mojo. Maybe its less straight forward and open, but its more organic and smooth, easier to listen to. And in my country Lithuania Mojo has same price as multibit. Both arround 350-400$ with shipping and etc. But Mojo is less timeproof, because of the battery life... one day it will be dead. Anyway, thanks for great videos!
P.s. yours dyns has surprisingly much bass, wow.
@@mykeldg It is reliable to buy the Schiit modi on your page because Amazon is out of stock
T. J. Wow the multibit is that expensive in ur country? In my country, i can get both used for around $200. Mojo’s battery can be disconnected and be used as a desktop dac. I saw a YT video of it but haven’t tried it yet since the mojo i have is just a loaner.
Tomas Alegre if ur in the usa, try ordering directly from schiit. Or better try to look for used units
I was not going to reply since it's been so long and odd that you are doing so AGAIN. I still stand by what I have written, truth is in the experience and that can only be known IN PERSO
N, it has nothing to do with snobbery. I just returned a bed in a box from an online retailer and found that it was very uncomfortable for me. I should have known better, how can you know what the bed truly feels like unless you sleep on it? How can you know what a food taste like unless you eat it? There is nothing else to say here, enjoy your videos...PEACE!
well you can't really audition beds & food on youtube. but hey man this is a fun hobby and I don't see any need for divisiveness on such tiny things. this hobby is mostly for fun & entertainment. If it doesn't work for you -- it doesn't -- its all good and I respect that. Enjoy and keep safe !
I picked the Schiit Modi
Schiit is better,full sound, spacious,music flouw naturally
Slightly better Mojo.
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I owned a Chord Mojo. I think I like the Schiit better. The Mojo sounds a bit fuzzy to me.
I think so too. Mojo is pretty good too IMO. much better than all of my other well-measuring DS dacs.
Hi, what's the male vocals track starting at 2.33 called....Thanks
Got to Keep Moving by Hand Theessink & Terry Evans
@@mykeldg Thank you ever so much
Hi. Can write me what song are you playing in this demo. Special the one with the guitar only, it is very good for testing. Thanks in advance. P.s. my younger son saw it as a animation to dance, because he saw your douther doing it. For him misguided video...hahaah.
Did you use the Chord Mojo in an in-line mode or otherwise?
Which amplifier did you pair with it?
@@ogunrotimifemi6388 yes i did. In this video i think it was the onkyo 9150
@@mykeldg, and the other DAC is schiit modi multibit 1 or 2? Or just schiit modi multibit DAC?
I already have the mojo, I want to buy the second DAC because it has a power supply, which I believe so.
@@ogunrotimifemi6388 its the multibit v2. I now have mojo 2. Its a bit better than all dacs over tried. But if youre craving for a different flavor, bifrost 2 would be the way to go
@@mykeldg, now you want me to order Mojo 2 lol.
Hi. Do you ever tried the Topping DX7 pro? This one should be a real contester
probably sounds similar or slightly better than the topping d50s which I made a comparison video last year.
Mojo dá uma encorpada nos graves e o modi dexa o som mais cristalino o som mais aberto , OBS: Excesso de graves também é ruim.
Eu estou pensando em comprar um modi schiit óptico para ter a primeira experiência na área dos dacs, quero ligar minha tv no meu receiver denon e meu player de música, você acha que vale a pena ? Para iniciantes? Obs: valor da compra uns 90 dólares
Modi low end sound boomy sometimes
Even in these videos mojo has lot cleaner and rounded edges to instruments. Voice is lot more effortless.
Schiit is absolute winner between these 2 for me. First - attack. Schiit sounds like with studio compessor. Sound engineers will understand me. Second- mids. Shiit is more natural sounding and has more body. Third- transients. They are better with Shiit.
Chord Mojo best sound
Hi, which won?
hi! do you have modi multibit of the first version or the second? is there a significant difference between the first and second versions ?
this one is the 2nd with the upgraded firmware. yes according to a friend who tried both, its a decent improvement.
@@mykeldg Thank you dear friend!
@@mykeldg Hi! Please tell me if there is a difference in the quality of manufacture or sound between devices labeled "Made in USA" and "Assembled in USA"? Or is it the same thing?
Title of Jazz Rock song?
Hi. Could you please say what speakers and amp are you using in this video?
Dynaudio x18 and onkyo a-9150
Problem with RUclips reviewers is that can't go to very extremes in praising to a particular brand. That won't go very well in long term as they won't get gear from other brands to test. That's the reason products like mojo don't get recognised much against the poorly designed products.
The mojo's performance surprised me. I was expecting it to do on par or below the newer Topping DACs (since those measure excellently and incrementally better than the mojo). But to my surprise, it performed the best out of all the dacs i've tested in giving a blacker background, way better depth, lightning fast transients and doesn't have the usual treble glare. If I would just nitpick, maybe the Mojo has a slightly less-wide/less-open sound and slightly warmer than neutral.
@@mykeldg when im distortion is less it allows for more depth cues since distortion affects both channel. More depth cues means less width perception. That's the reason dacs other than mojo sound wider. It's like cross talk. More cross talk you have wider the perception. Vinyl has this tendency more exaggerated that's why the music earlier used to be recorded with more ping pong effect to compensate for cross talk. Even chord introduced cross feed feature to reduce ping pong effect which brings the sound stage in front from in your head.
@@mykeldg mojo measures better than any topping dac except balance xlr out topping dacs. Don't go by audiosciencereview.com that person is heavily biased against chord.
Not the same price. Shouldn't the Mojo be compared to the Bifrost?
@@mag4633 yup it should be. though the bifrost 1 multibit is pretty much the same as the mimby with internal LPS. (mimby has outboard PSU)
Mojo...definetly !
Multibit is the new technology to rule them all. Maybe needs time to perfect the stupid measurements, but this is uncannily alive. The other DACs are reproduction. The other DACs may be preserved only because multibit is too intimate for public sphere or too engaging for casual listening. Also to have classic sound as from one time.
i love multibit & r2r in general. kudos to schiit for making it available to the masses for a relatively low cost of entry.
multibit is not the new technology actually. R2R based conversion has been around for decades. Their measurement are always like that. Hence, explain their unique characters to the sound but objectivists always come at ya for saying it sounds broken and distorted
Mojo bad, Schit amazing
Who is here because of dank pods?
So the winner is... Mimby?
I feel like the Mojo is the Technically superior one but I enjoy the sound more from the Mimby. More open sound, timbre a bit more natural, more immersive soundstage, more toe tapping despite Mojo sounding superior if you listen for it.
Speakers need toe-in.
Are they connected by optical ?
usb
mojo is mutch betterFaact
mojo version , I heard a little girl & cat sound in between in the first song. Sound wise, Mojo is not my cup of tea, boring sound.
Chord doesn’t give a f to an upper range. Like “eat what we cooked”. That’s a shame. They can do better but for small money you have to be a sht. Will never purchase any Chord
ultra slow and boring dacs