I loved the comparison of growling to Louis Armstrong. I went downstairs and started growling right away and like it more than humming. I also love references to when you both were learning. When we see you play its hard to ever imagine you as a new student trying to figure things out and learning the basics. It helps me believe that I can get from a simple learner to a confident and versatile player down the road.
I love the first growl moment segment. I think any sax player remembers that milestone. Mine was many decades ago, but still fresh in my mind. The late great Bobby Keys was my inspiration to learn this technique. He was in constant growl mode, with amazing tone and control. At first I thought it was that I didn't have the right gear. I was like...what mouthpiece and reed combination is he using? How's he getting that sound to come out of the same horn I've got? I was never taught how to growl, just told. I tried and tried with little success. I almost gave up. One day when visiting a shop on 48th st. I heard a repair tech growling on a tenor. He showed me that it was possible and told me to be patient and keep practicing. He said it'll just come to you. I took his advice. When I was finally able to do it, it was like getting a new toy. You guys are really amazing musicians. The NYC subway system misses you both hehe.
je vous vois depuis tellement d'années et là, en studio... C'est génial..... Merci pour les tuttos... bonne continuation et hellllloooooo de Bretagne FR
Brilliant. I can't wait to see how this ages. This is going to be the next level of awesome in a decade or two. It reminds me of 80s/90s instructional video cassettes. Love it.
Thank you so much for this tutorial and most importantly thank you so much for showing us Grace what it sounds like when a beginner starts and what being on the right track is like!
I loved Louis Jordan's growling on the alto. Such booting rock-n-roll, and raunchy blues sounds. I never thought the alto would suit these styles until I heard Louis! Another favourite was tenorman Willis Jackson.
Watching this right now with my friend (me a bari, my friend a Tenor) and this is so helpful! We've been trying to bend for weeks now and now we've finally got it.
I actually love this video of techniques. Being a trumpet player, everything is so close to what I do except the growl. I've done the growling exercise and like you said, the technique takes a lot of practice. With a little bit of throat issues from years ago, I choose not to incorporate this in my playing. Bending is one of my strongest exercises for warming up, bending up and down throughout the scales. Learning over 45 years ago to work on playing with the tuning slide all the way in and use the throat muscles etc and play in tune. Then when you actually play regularly, it is so easy to hear your pitch and able to adjust a note if playing with someone who might not hear themselves to be in tune. Thank you both for such a wonderful video and I hope you both had a wonderful Easter. Can't wait to hear more music or tutorials. 👌🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🎺
Great video! As an old guy still playing Bari, wish we had this information as a youngster. Love what you are doing for a great instrument Leo! (Grace you are awesome too!!)
That's quite the change. Be warned of the air required from the saxophone family. I started on clarinet and bought a tenor a few months ago. It takes a lot of air, so don't be afraid to use a softer reed.
@@ajhauter5049 other way around for me. I’ve been playing saxophone for 7 years and tenor for 4 but I need to use a softer reed on clarinet because I’m just not used to it and the kinda breath you need
I am barely practicing this and for bending notes going down, I highly recommend engaging your core (imagine as if someone were to hit you really hard in the stomach, that “pressure “ is engaging your core), it makes it a lot easier
Where were people like you 30 years ago? My late teacher, may he rest in peace, had me go through three books of basic saxophone school. Then we played song books with piano accompanyment for two years, then I played alto duets with my section partner in the youth concert band, followed by trios and eventually quartets where my teacher joined three students into the time of two. It was good practise, but I asked him what about the rest: vibrato, bending, altissimo, growl and so on. He gave me a photocopy with a fingering chart of possible altissimo notes and said that technique is so boring/difficult to teach. I would like to add that he was a brilliant jazz musician himself, just that teaching the advanced stuff apparently was not his forte. Eventually I purchased my own book with demonstration tape, Rock & Roll Saxophone by John Laughter with foreword by Scott Page. I never quite got the hang of vibrato, but I figured out some of the other effects somewhat. Perhaps it is not too late to learn (and practise!).
I've been a bari sax player for over 30 years, but somehow missed out on some advanced techniques along the way and gained some bad habits along the way too. So I'm loving this video and adding it to my collection of instructional videos. I've always struggled with growling. I can't seem to do it when I'm trying to, but I've sometimes done it kind of instinctually. Almost like it's an accident but it's usually in a good place when soloing. Some people have told me to talk or sing to growl, but I find that even harder. I'm looking forward to trying your techniques. I'd love to growl like Ronnie Cuber Also my vibrato seems to come more from the same place my natural vibrato comes from when I sing. But changing it is harder. So I plan on trying those techniques too. (BTW, I love Harry Carney! I grew up listening to big bands, especially Duke Ellington's. My grandmother used to sneak out to go dancing at the Cotton Club back in the day and often talked about his band... and others, of course).
Really good information. Over time i did naturally start to bend using the throat, but i see a lot of newer players (as I had) try or get in a habit of up scooping up/lipping up down. Sometimes it can become a habit too in their reg playing. Wish i had seen this back then . Great class.
I think I can hear the 'hrrra' and 'vooo' sounds distinctively when you both growl. Am I imagining this? Is this a bass/alto thing? Should people start by picking the word they want to sound like?
I've been trying to learn to growl as a singer (and do a little throat singing and subharmonics) - and I'm learning how to engage the false vocal folds to do that. The description of growling here sounds like it requires the false vocal folds. But when I try to growl on the sax, I just create combination tones by adding some voice to my breath. That sounds to me like what Grace is doing, but not so much what Leo is doing. Is it common to growl without using the false vocal folds? How would you describe the difference if so?
Soo great to hear this, see this and hear your directions. Note: for future videos like this: your dialog SOUNDS stiff and overly rehearsed and slightly contrived - even though it's not. It almost sounds like you're speaking to 6-year-olds (harsh to 6-year-olds - sorry). Just throwing a but of loving feedback to ya'll. Teaching doesn't mean yelling louder or speaking s-l-o-w-l-y.......Your students are whip smart - that's why they chose your channel!! Woot, woot! ❤❤❤❤ I'd love it if you'd teach, just like you play: like melted butter sliding down your tongue into the sax, and into my ear! You two are fabulous!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed. It just seemed a bit too awkwardly formal, like they were reading off of a sign behind the camera. Great tips and playing, though. Never heard Leo play classical before - I like it.
Hmm I like the script and clear enunciation. They put a lot of thought into it clearly, and it’s STRUCTURED, instead of riffing off the cuff. I like that!
❤ Hello! Im a brazilian singer that is trying to learn sax for the first time and i dont know how to start, what are the first steps... alto saxophone? I read about xalophoon , is it cool? Thank you in advance! Love ya ❤
I think the first step is listen to lots of old and new saxophone players and then decide which type of saxophone you like the sounds of the best - Alto, Tenor, Bari, Soprano, Sopranino, etc. Next, find a way to acquire one of those saxes that you want to learn first - rent to own might be the best option from a big music store so you could always potentially change your mind as to what instrument you want to learn if you didn't enjoy your first choice. Next, learn very carefully how to hold, carry, clean, and most important set up your instrument for practice and playing sessions, this includes neck / shoulder strap / harness wearing / adjusting, putting the neck on the sax, the mouthpiece on the neck, and maybe most importantly especially for a beginner to avoid unneeded frustrations - putting the reed correctly on the mouthpiece. You will likely want to start with a beginner 1.5 or 2 strength natural cane reed (for Alto - or the equivalents for the others which I'm not familiar with) and later in your sax journey you can reach a point where it makes sense to optimize your brand, type, and cut of reed together with the mouthpiece opening to hone and optimize the sound you want. Once you have all that - it is a great idea to find a good sax repairman to do a full check of the instrument, they might find air leaks with pad issues, or dents or other things that may affect the playability of your instrument. Next, once your sax is pronounced ready to play ---for Alto, learn how to place your mouth - lips, and teeth around the mouthpiece and finally use the left hand to finger the first (pointy finger) key and play a MIDDLE RANGE B (on Alto) by blowing into the mouthpiece. Practice changing the pressure, making slight adjustments with tongue, lips, teeth, inside mouth muscles and jaw if you can (embouchure) to keep the note sound and volume steady as long as possible and then repeat. Next work on that same "long tone" single note exercise but try to start the note (attack) very softly and then slowly make the note louder. Once you have a bit of a grasp of that, move on to learning A and G (the next two fingers on your left hand in Alto) or their equivalents for the left hand on the other sax you choose. Soon enough you'll be practicing your first scales. The Xaphoon (which I have also) uses a Tenor Sax reed but more of a clarinet embouchure so I don't recommend trying to learn Xaphoon until you have already got the saxophone embpuchure pretty good unless you already have clarinet or similar embouchure experience. I don't feel Xaphoon helps much with Saxophones however it is nice to have to play something similar without having to carry around the sax say for the beach. I do recommend Roland or similar brand's Electric saxes though for practice once you have been playing sax maybe for a year or so as it's a great way to practice fingering and some other skills in places you can't normally play loud or late at night etc. I have the Roland Aerophone Go - AE-05 model and loved it but it's fairly outdated now. Good luck.
Anyone heard Up There In Orbit by Earl Bostic - some insane altissimo and some of my favorite growling too. He has a great natural sounding growl in his version of Blue Moon too.
Thanks for this lesson - will be trying this weekend, been working on these 3 techniques with limited success so far as an intermediate level sax student.
Can you please give me a link or links to videos instructing on producing jazz subtone with double lip embouchure. I have been informed that the jszz subtone can only be produced with the the single lip embouchure and this seems to be so as all my efforts at producing the jazz subtone have not succeeded as I play with the double lip embouchure . Thank you for your help.
My student Buescher would let me bend notes really easily. A pity I traded it instead of keeping it. It would also do lovely delicate tones which my exuberant Yamaha also hates to do.
I started on Alto and played bari like 4yrs into alto. Personally, bari took a lot more air to play and controlling my sound in the lower register I found was harder initially. Also being a kid, if I started on Bari - holding it would have been difficult/it is heavy. So i think Alto is easier to start (less air, probs easier to control maybe? not as heavy), but ultimately if u want to play bari and ur old enough (thinking high school or older), might as well go for it :) Find a teacher and see what they recommend - also consider cost and what u have access too! Less bari players compared to alto players as well maybe? Bari parts tended to be technically less challenging tho in terms of finger speed (huge generalisation but thats the case I found). Hope some of that helps!! Might differ to other people too so would be cool to hear others! :) (will say I played more classical sax stuff - but did do some big band stuff/jazz).
So I know Grace is a master so curious why talk about growling with throat without mentioning growl via leaking air around from corners of mouth? That's the only way Eric Merienthal does it so would have loved to hear what you think of that method?
I love how Leo is a pro and he still listens to the instructions and yawns like it's his first time learning. That's what's called passion.
10/10 teaching
11/10 performing.
respect
Well I'm gonna watch this religiously
I will too. And I don't even play an instrument. ❤
Me too it's an excellent lesson
Me too. Thanks a lot Leo P and G. Kelly.❤🇫🇷🍀🤗😊
Same
Surprised by the way they speak, like in classical education movies. I thought his speach should be something like Sid Vicious manner 😂
I loved the comparison of growling to Louis Armstrong. I went downstairs and started growling right away and like it more than humming. I also love references to when you both were learning. When we see you play its hard to ever imagine you as a new student trying to figure things out and learning the basics. It helps me believe that I can get from a simple learner to a confident and versatile player down the road.
Two of the coolest teachers in the universe. These technique videos are great. Thanks Grace & Leo!
I was taught all of this in my first week and it sprung me ahead of my class to a weird level.
But i was just really good at mirroring sounds.
I love the first growl moment segment. I think any sax player remembers that milestone. Mine was many decades ago, but still fresh in my mind. The late great Bobby Keys was my inspiration to learn this technique. He was in constant growl mode, with amazing tone and control. At first I thought it was that I didn't have the right gear. I was like...what mouthpiece and reed combination is he using? How's he getting that sound to come out of the same horn I've got? I was never taught how to growl, just told. I tried and tried with little success. I almost gave up. One day when visiting a shop on 48th st. I heard a repair tech growling on a tenor. He showed me that it was possible and told me to be patient and keep practicing. He said it'll just come to you. I took his advice. When I was finally able to do it, it was like getting a new toy. You guys are really amazing musicians. The NYC subway system misses you both hehe.
Thanks to you both for explaining how to growl .. I totally didn’t go there until I watched this .
You guys are great Teachers !
I am not a sax player - but I just love 💕 watching your two -- !!!
je vous vois depuis tellement d'années et là, en studio... C'est génial..... Merci pour les tuttos... bonne continuation et hellllloooooo de Bretagne FR
they're both so good it's actually wild
0:21 If they ever do more Cowboy Bepop, this should be opening theme.
Awesome tunes Grace Kelly and Leo P!
As a trumpet player/teacher, I can say all of this is exactly applicable to brass!
MY SKIN JUST CRAWLED FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE I GOT A HEAD INJURY BECAUSE OF GRACE PLAYING THAT WAS THANK YOU
Brilliant.
I can't wait to see how this ages. This is going to be the next level of awesome in a decade or two. It reminds me of 80s/90s instructional video cassettes. Love it.
Thank you so much for this tutorial and most importantly thank you so much for showing us Grace what it sounds like when a beginner starts and what being on the right track is like!
Wish I had you guys back in high school concert band. I was a bari sax guy I was practically the bass section. You guys rock. Keep teaching.
Technique is everything for any wind based instrument, even the wilder or the more unusual sounds need a lot a practice.
You two are THE BEST. I hope to see you live at some point.
Same!
I learn so much in general composition from you guys. Thank you!
Best Duo TEAching Session on the Planet 🎉
10/10 demonstration
11/10 $tyle + PiZazz 🎆
The two of them are just wonderful. Simply wonderful.
Mais je les adore !!!!!!
Bravo de France pour vos Vidéos,
C'est Merveilleux !
I played a Trumpet about 34 years ago. See if we had this tool back then to learn? |Might have played it again. Top stuff.
I loved Louis Jordan's growling on the alto. Such booting rock-n-roll, and raunchy blues sounds. I never thought the alto would suit these styles until I heard Louis! Another favourite was tenorman Willis Jackson.
Jesus. Quality of content! C’mon RUclips! Millions of subs! Let’s go!!
Watching their videos makes me wish I had learned how to play sax as a kid.
Watching this right now with my friend (me a bari, my friend a Tenor) and this is so helpful! We've been trying to bend for weeks now and now we've finally got it.
I actually love this video of techniques. Being a trumpet player, everything is so close to what I do except the growl. I've done the growling exercise and like you said, the technique takes a lot of practice. With a little bit of throat issues from years ago, I choose not to incorporate this in my playing. Bending is one of my strongest exercises for warming up, bending up and down throughout the scales. Learning over 45 years ago to work on playing with the tuning slide all the way in and use the throat muscles etc and play in tune. Then when you actually play regularly, it is so easy to hear your pitch and able to adjust a note if playing with someone who might not hear themselves to be in tune.
Thank you both for such a wonderful video and I hope you both had a wonderful Easter. Can't wait to hear more music or tutorials. 👌🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🎺
@BudgetGuitarshow. I didn't know what VIA telegram was per this request regarding a prize.
I’ve always found growling easier on brass but maybe just low brass
Great video! As an old guy still playing Bari, wish we had this information as a youngster. Love what you are doing for a great instrument Leo! (Grace you are awesome too!!)
I play clarinet and I'm switching to baritone sax and you've been very helpful
That's quite the change. Be warned of the air required from the saxophone family. I started on clarinet and bought a tenor a few months ago. It takes a lot of air, so don't be afraid to use a softer reed.
@@ajhauter5049 other way around for me. I’ve been playing saxophone for 7 years and tenor for 4 but I need to use a softer reed on clarinet because I’m just not used to it and the kinda breath you need
@@q12aw50 that's wiggity-wack, yo
That's awesome!! Love the Growl!!
I am barely practicing this and for bending notes going down, I highly recommend engaging your core (imagine as if someone were to hit you really hard in the stomach, that “pressure “ is engaging your core), it makes it a lot easier
Also engaging your core sort of works with the vibrato, try to use it to your best 🗿
Thanks
Wow!!! Excellent Master Class and top notch Pedagogy. Thank you Grace and Leo P.
I don't play an instrument although I do sing in a band but I still found this video really interesting to watch. Really professional..
Thanks, very simple but productive, looking forward new lessons.
coolest teachers ♥️🙏🇳🇵
Huge thanks for this!❤ I’m sure, that all the viewers want to see more videos like this one!😊
ABSOLUTELY 🎷🎷♥️
Where were people like you 30 years ago? My late teacher, may he rest in peace, had me go through three books of basic saxophone school. Then we played song books with piano accompanyment for two years, then I played alto duets with my section partner in the youth concert band, followed by trios and eventually quartets where my teacher joined three students into the time of two.
It was good practise, but I asked him what about the rest: vibrato, bending, altissimo, growl and so on. He gave me a photocopy with a fingering chart of possible altissimo notes and said that technique is so boring/difficult to teach. I would like to add that he was a brilliant jazz musician himself, just that teaching the advanced stuff apparently was not his forte.
Eventually I purchased my own book with demonstration tape, Rock & Roll Saxophone by John Laughter with foreword by Scott Page. I never quite got the hang of vibrato, but I figured out some of the other effects somewhat. Perhaps it is not too late to learn (and practise!).
Os dois forma uma dupla fenomenal! Agradável de se ouvir! Parabéns!
Oh, so #SAXY! Thanks for all of those great tips and exercises!
That alto growl was awesome!
She exudes emotion! I'm in love
Love the show.
Wow, wowowowowow! What greaaaaaaat instruction! Thank you!
Thank you for taking the time in making this video. Love the lava lamp...
Sounds of amazing
Very good teaching technique , thank you two both
I've been a bari sax player for over 30 years, but somehow missed out on some advanced techniques along the way and gained some bad habits along the way too. So I'm loving this video and adding it to my collection of instructional videos.
I've always struggled with growling. I can't seem to do it when I'm trying to, but I've sometimes done it kind of instinctually. Almost like it's an accident but it's usually in a good place when soloing. Some people have told me to talk or sing to growl, but I find that even harder. I'm looking forward to trying your techniques. I'd love to growl like Ronnie Cuber
Also my vibrato seems to come more from the same place my natural vibrato comes from when I sing. But changing it is harder. So I plan on trying those techniques too. (BTW, I love Harry Carney! I grew up listening to big bands, especially Duke Ellington's. My grandmother used to sneak out to go dancing at the Cotton Club back in the day and often talked about his band... and others, of course).
Really good information. Over time i did naturally start to bend using the throat, but i see a lot of newer players (as I had) try or get in a habit of up scooping up/lipping up down. Sometimes it can become a habit too in their reg playing. Wish i had seen this back then . Great class.
They’re gods? I feel an awe!
You gotta stick with it... Great message.
Absolutely love this video, definitely going to use these techniques for sure.
I just love these persons, also ready movie-consept for Marvel
That baryton sounds so dope!
Great Technics thank you very much
Great clear tips and advice thank you so much you two maestro's xx
I am currently playing alto sax in the music man Musical I have not yet cleared out how to grow, but hearing a piccolo growl is pretty amusing
Awesome!
Thank you for Lerner❤❤❤
Wow that's so helpful
Great lessons ! Thank You very much guys !
Love your instructional videos! awesome!
Lovely lesson lovely people
You rock!
Dear Mam,Sir. Huge thanks for this video. It's real helpful to me. Thanking you.
Grazie.
you guys Rock!! Hi from Australia.
I think I can hear the 'hrrra' and 'vooo' sounds distinctively when you both growl.
Am I imagining this? Is this a bass/alto thing?
Should people start by picking the word they want to sound like?
Wonderful! Thanks a lot!
I've been trying to learn to growl as a singer (and do a little throat singing and subharmonics) - and I'm learning how to engage the false vocal folds to do that. The description of growling here sounds like it requires the false vocal folds. But when I try to growl on the sax, I just create combination tones by adding some voice to my breath. That sounds to me like what Grace is doing, but not so much what Leo is doing. Is it common to growl without using the false vocal folds? How would you describe the difference if so?
Soo great to hear this, see this and hear your directions. Note: for future videos like this: your dialog SOUNDS stiff and overly rehearsed and slightly contrived - even though it's not. It almost sounds like you're speaking to 6-year-olds (harsh to 6-year-olds - sorry). Just throwing a but of loving feedback to ya'll. Teaching doesn't mean yelling louder or speaking s-l-o-w-l-y.......Your students are whip smart - that's why they chose your channel!! Woot, woot! ❤❤❤❤ I'd love it if you'd teach, just like you play: like melted butter sliding down your tongue into the sax, and into my ear! You two are fabulous!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed. It just seemed a bit too awkwardly formal, like they were reading off of a sign behind the camera.
Great tips and playing, though. Never heard Leo play classical before - I like it.
Totally!
Good Lord a whole paragraph abt it. That’s some serious petty negativity. Just get what you came for and hope that they’ll continue to post more!
@@cici-mama chirp!
Hmm I like the script and clear enunciation. They put a lot of thought into it clearly, and it’s STRUCTURED, instead of riffing off the cuff. I like that!
Great video, thanks.
I’m a freshman but for some reason I can growl pretty decently I just rolled my Rs into a sax and it worked
Somehow I already knew this when I was experimenting alto by myself
Great video
Beautiful information 🎉
Its Fire Boy and Water Girl.
Thank you ❤❤❤
I wish I saw this video when I had to go below the scale for a song while playing Bari sax. I kinda just had to figure it out
I would love to hear urgent by Foreigner with you two on sax. 😊
That’s an amazing suit, bruh.
very good and useful video. Please teach me how to use the tongue and brush it
Awesome lesson ❤❤2 cool
I....have no idea why or how i got to the sax side of youtube, im a bassist, never played anything else,but im gonna watch this entire video
❤ Hello! Im a brazilian singer that is trying to learn sax for the first time and i dont know how to start, what are the first steps... alto saxophone? I read about xalophoon , is it cool? Thank you in advance! Love ya ❤
I think the first step is listen to lots of old and new saxophone players and then decide which type of saxophone you like the sounds of the best - Alto, Tenor, Bari, Soprano, Sopranino, etc. Next, find a way to acquire one of those saxes that you want to learn first - rent to own might be the best option from a big music store so you could always potentially change your mind as to what instrument you want to learn if you didn't enjoy your first choice. Next, learn very carefully how to hold, carry, clean, and most important set up your instrument for practice and playing sessions, this includes neck / shoulder strap / harness wearing / adjusting, putting the neck on the sax, the mouthpiece on the neck, and maybe most importantly especially for a beginner to avoid unneeded frustrations - putting the reed correctly on the mouthpiece. You will likely want to start with a beginner 1.5 or 2 strength natural cane reed (for Alto - or the equivalents for the others which I'm not familiar with) and later in your sax journey you can reach a point where it makes sense to optimize your brand, type, and cut of reed together with the mouthpiece opening to hone and optimize the sound you want. Once you have all that - it is a great idea to find a good sax repairman to do a full check of the instrument, they might find air leaks with pad issues, or dents or other things that may affect the playability of your instrument. Next, once your sax is pronounced ready to play ---for Alto, learn how to place your mouth - lips, and teeth around the mouthpiece and finally use the left hand to finger the first (pointy finger) key and play a MIDDLE RANGE B (on Alto) by blowing into the mouthpiece. Practice changing the pressure, making slight adjustments with tongue, lips, teeth, inside mouth muscles and jaw if you can (embouchure) to keep the note sound and volume steady as long as possible and then repeat. Next work on that same "long tone" single note exercise but try to start the note (attack) very softly and then slowly make the note louder. Once you have a bit of a grasp of that, move on to learning A and G (the next two fingers on your left hand in Alto) or their equivalents for the left hand on the other sax you choose. Soon enough you'll be practicing your first scales.
The Xaphoon (which I have also) uses a Tenor Sax reed but more of a clarinet embouchure so I don't recommend trying to learn Xaphoon until you have already got the saxophone embpuchure pretty good unless you already have clarinet or similar embouchure experience. I don't feel Xaphoon helps much with Saxophones however it is nice to have to play something similar without having to carry around the sax say for the beach. I do recommend Roland or similar brand's Electric saxes though for practice once you have been playing sax maybe for a year or so as it's a great way to practice fingering and some other skills in places you can't normally play loud or late at night etc. I have the Roland Aerophone Go - AE-05 model and loved it but it's fairly outdated now. Good luck.
😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳👀🎷...Thanks guys!
You remind me of Dennis Reynolds
Please teach about clarinet leo p
Johnny Hodges was the master "bender" .
I ❤️ it, the bending.
Great tutorial lesson 👍
Thanks.
Anyone heard Up There In Orbit by Earl Bostic - some insane altissimo and some of my favorite growling too. He has a great natural sounding growl in his version of Blue Moon too.
Thanks for this lesson - will be trying this weekend, been working on these 3 techniques with limited success so far as an intermediate level sax student.
U guys should go to minnesota
Can you please give me a link or links to videos instructing on producing jazz subtone with double lip embouchure. I have been informed that the jszz subtone can only be produced with the the single lip embouchure and this seems to be so as all my efforts at producing the jazz subtone have not succeeded as I play with the double lip embouchure . Thank you for your help.
My student Buescher would let me bend notes really easily. A pity I traded it instead of keeping it. It would also do lovely delicate tones which my exuberant Yamaha also hates to do.
I have a quick question should I play alto sax first and then go to bari sax or go straight to bari sax? This is my first time playing sax.
I started alto last year and started bari this year, they are both in the same key and it’s easier to start out on alto
Whichever one you like the sound of the most, each of the big 4 have their own distinct flavour
I started on Alto and played bari like 4yrs into alto. Personally, bari took a lot more air to play and controlling my sound in the lower register I found was harder initially. Also being a kid, if I started on Bari - holding it would have been difficult/it is heavy. So i think Alto is easier to start (less air, probs easier to control maybe? not as heavy), but ultimately if u want to play bari and ur old enough (thinking high school or older), might as well go for it :)
Find a teacher and see what they recommend - also consider cost and what u have access too! Less bari players compared to alto players as well maybe?
Bari parts tended to be technically less challenging tho in terms of finger speed (huge generalisation but thats the case I found).
Hope some of that helps!! Might differ to other people too so would be cool to hear others! :) (will say I played more classical sax stuff - but did do some big band stuff/jazz).
Alto alto alto alto alto alto alto. But I 100% support moving to bari it’s a much better instrument but learn on alto please
Why shouldn't I go straight to bari
They play so fucking good.
Like from Brazil ! Haha
So I know Grace is a master so curious why talk about growling with throat without mentioning growl via leaking air around from corners of mouth? That's the only way Eric Merienthal does it so would have loved to hear what you think of that method?
Do these super proficient instrumentalists have anything to offer by way of a no nonsense approach to the Jazz Subtone?
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