I’m in a tournament and I’m 11 #1 no chores 20$ 2nd 10$ 1 chore 3rd 5$ whatever chore is disliked the most and I’m winning if I win this cat an ITS OVER THANKS SO MUCH 🙏🙏🙏🙏 editing comment to say if it’s a win or loss
I use SOOO many roads to get to a prime location, and then get all the recource! Sadly, it normally takes longer to do that than for someone else to win.
I always go for the monopolization strategy. I like it because it creates a system where other players depend on you for that one resource, because they know you have a lot of it, and they can just trade whatever they don't want for the one that you have. That means you can essentially ask for any resource that you want
I think players worry far too much about losing cards to the robber. If you try and stay under 8 cards all the time, I often find you are frittering them away on stuff that doesn't really help you win. The cards you get don't always help you buy what you need to advance in the game, so you often need to save them up. I have a buddy who often has 20 cards in his hand, sometimes even more. Occasionally he will flame out because of a badly timed 7, but he also wins far more than his fair share of games, because he has the cards to buy the right stuff at the right time. I typically budget for losing cards to the robber twice per game. More than that and I've either been unlucky or played badly. Less than that and I've either been lucky or played well.
Totally agree. One example is city. It requires 5 and early on in the game, it might take forever to have 2 wheats and 3 ores. I often find myself in the position where I have 6-7 cards including sheep, ore, wheat but not enough to build a city. While development card is helpful in general, you may actually slow down your progress by spending your cards on dev cards too often and keep delaying your city upgrade.
@@su2me2rainAnd there’s always the tradeoff: constantly buying those pesky development cards gets you an early (and often insurmountable) lead in the largest army department. It’s really hard to catch up to and surpass someone who already had largest army because he can see your troop buildup in real time as you can only play one knight per turn even if you have them stockpiled. If you even get close to his number of knights, he can just get another development card, which will most likely be another knight. At least until they’re mostly already in play.
4:52 He says "there is one way to roll a two (2)....or an eleven (11)" which is not correct. Eleven (11) has better odds than Two (2) as there are more than Two ways to roll an Eleven (11).
My mom is in the top 200 players on the planet for online catan. I still have the family winning streak. I find lying is a great tool as well as not focusing on the longest road or the most probable number because I still get the same chances if I have a 5 and 12 on wheat.
It doesn't work all the time for sure, especially with 4 players, but there's nothing worse than not being able to get that last resource you need to build a settlement and everybody at the table starving you of it. I do also like doing the ore wheat development route, but you need a port so you can convert or a monopoly so others will be forced to trade with you. Get one of everything is just more of a general guideline if the board will allow it with a strong pip count.
@@LegendaryTactics I just think that's kinda the most obvious thing to the game. Other than that you've made a great video that I did find helpful tips in.
@@markhamilton2749 I really enjoy the work by Dylighted. He's got some great ideas and I bet he's got something that would help you. We haven't focused too much on the 4p games yet. Although, I did make a catan placement puzzle based on the canadian national game that would be good practice for you.
Thanks Mr. O. This one was intended as a beginner / intermediate guide. We're searching for a World Champion Catan player who we can talk to for the advanced guide. That's certainly on the production schedule. But we really want to find the right expert to offer their ideas.
I absolutely agree. That's part of why I think some people really love the game. The best player isn't always necessarily going to win. For me, that's a drawback. I love when the outcome is as closely linked to the skill of the player as possible. However, it does mean that it appeals to a really wide audience, including people who need a little luck on their side. There are tons of ways to mitigate the RNG and to work with it though, so it still has some value from a strategic perspective. When I play Catan, it feels like the scene from the play Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead where Ros gets heads 95 times in a row. that's my luck in Catan. But it will be the 12s and 2s that come up over and over while I'm sitting on 6s and 8s getting nothing while pondering my Existential lot in life.
Yeah, I just got the game, and have only played it a few times. For me, it's maddening at how much luck is involved. However, I like how simple the game is, so you don't put in a ton of time, just to get destroyed by a streak of horrible luck. It's a simple game, with a healthy dose of skill, but the outcome will typically be decided by who the dice favors.
@Matthew Klingerman Proof that you're right is that there are players who consistently dominate at the National and International level. While any player can have a bad game as a result of bad luck, the game does have enough die rolls that eventually probability and good skill will prevail in most cases.
pretty noob tips. in original catan you really don't need a balance of cards to win. if there are good numbers on wheat, rock and sheep thats all you need. development cards will give you the flexibility to expand and the knights will give you control of the board so you're always rolling.
when placing initial settlements, how do you decide who places their first initial settlement? and then there 2nd initial settlement? like whoever rolls the highest number goes first, 2nd highest goes 2nd, etc. and then when placing the 2nd initial settlement the order is reversed? Ex: 1st initial settlement placement in order: Bob, Sally, Sarah, John 2nd initial settlement placement in order: John, Sarah, Sally, Bob
Appreciate the effort, but your tips do not hold up to high level play and are overly generic. Also the sidney crosby analogy makes no sense… you would absolulely take crosby and an nhl level “schlep” over two average players every chance you got… sorry, but this is the opposite of strategy
Legendary Tactics 5 minutes ago Remember that I am not German though, so despite my best efforts, I tend to go with the pronunciation of my region. I have in fact done the video on the proper pronunciation: ruclips.net/video/vycVjAoUeMQ/видео.html. Most Americans also say the name incorrectly (Catawn is not in fact correct). But you're right that my pronunciation "Catanne" is also not correct.
I’m in a tournament and I’m 11 #1 no chores 20$ 2nd 10$ 1 chore 3rd 5$ whatever chore is disliked the most and I’m winning if I win this cat an ITS OVER THANKS SO MUCH 🙏🙏🙏🙏 editing comment to say if it’s a win or loss
Brilliant! That's awesome. I hope you take the prize and dominate.
@@LegendaryTactics Man I lost but I got second place so I’m now tied with my dad and if I win the next apgame it’s all over
did ya win
Did ya win @@Crispy198
thanks for the stock footage of a port, very helpful
Let us know what other strategies you're using to dominate by adding a comment.
I use SOOO many roads to get to a prime location, and then get all the recource!
Sadly, it normally takes longer to do that than for someone else to win.
@@OliverTheAmpersandCat Hopefully you get the longest road title on your journey to the best fishing hole.
@@LegendaryTactics :D
I normally don't go for fishing, I go for somewhere with 8's and 6's
@@OliverTheAmpersandCat Safe bet for sure.
I always go for the monopolization strategy. I like it because it creates a system where other players depend on you for that one resource, because they know you have a lot of it, and they can just trade whatever they don't want for the one that you have. That means you can essentially ask for any resource that you want
The OPEC route 😅
Thank you for this.
Now I can decimate my casual playing friends
Lol. No problem. Though sometimes, it's easier said than done.
I’ve never actually played a game of catan but want to have elite strategies for the off chance someone ever suggests playing
@4:50 There are two ways to get 11. 5+6 and 6+5. There is only one way to get 12, though.
Thanks for the tips. I'm out for revenge this weekend. Everytime my family plays, I'm public enemy number 1 😂
Sounds like you need to turn on the charm and be Mr or Mrs Nice Guy/Gal
I call the robber, The Government. It takes half your stuff and prevents production.
😂
I like that. We call him the buttplug
Should be called the IRS
one of best tips is to block wheat and stone as much as possible because they are needed to create cities - cities are worth 2 points
I think players worry far too much about losing cards to the robber. If you try and stay under 8 cards all the time, I often find you are frittering them away on stuff that doesn't really help you win. The cards you get don't always help you buy what you need to advance in the game, so you often need to save them up. I have a buddy who often has 20 cards in his hand, sometimes even more. Occasionally he will flame out because of a badly timed 7, but he also wins far more than his fair share of games, because he has the cards to buy the right stuff at the right time. I typically budget for losing cards to the robber twice per game. More than that and I've either been unlucky or played badly. Less than that and I've either been lucky or played well.
Totally agree. One example is city. It requires 5 and early on in the game, it might take forever to have 2 wheats and 3 ores. I often find myself in the position where I have 6-7 cards including sheep, ore, wheat but not enough to build a city. While development card is helpful in general, you may actually slow down your progress by spending your cards on dev cards too often and keep delaying your city upgrade.
@@su2me2rainAnd there’s always the tradeoff: constantly buying those pesky development cards gets you an early (and often insurmountable) lead in the largest army department. It’s really hard to catch up to and surpass someone who already had largest army because he can see your troop buildup in real time as you can only play one knight per turn even if you have them stockpiled. If you even get close to his number of knights, he can just get another development card, which will most likely be another knight. At least until they’re mostly already in play.
4:52 He says "there is one way to roll a two (2)....or an eleven (11)" which is not correct. Eleven (11) has better odds than Two (2) as there are more than Two ways to roll an Eleven (11).
I think he meant to say twelve.
My mom is in the top 200 players on the planet for online catan. I still have the family winning streak. I find lying is a great tool as well as not focusing on the longest road or the most probable number because I still get the same chances if I have a 5 and 12 on wheat.
That's awesome! There's some Catalent in your family. Nice handle by the way.
@@LegendaryTactics Ty!
you in fact dont have the same chances of getting a 5 and a 12, not even close
@@spock69enterprise If I have one on a 12 and one on a 5 I get 5 dots
@@spock69enterprise they're saying a 5 and 12 is equivalent to one 6 or one 8
YOP actually has a better trade value than ports. ports can give you 2:1 but YOP gives 3:2 (1.5:1)
This is the second Catan video I've watched telling us to place our initial settlements to get every resource. 🙄
It doesn't work all the time for sure, especially with 4 players, but there's nothing worse than not being able to get that last resource you need to build a settlement and everybody at the table starving you of it. I do also like doing the ore wheat development route, but you need a port so you can convert or a monopoly so others will be forced to trade with you. Get one of everything is just more of a general guideline if the board will allow it with a strong pip count.
@@LegendaryTactics I just think that's kinda the most obvious thing to the game. Other than that you've made a great video that I did find helpful tips in.
@@raymondspogo I'm glad there was some value in it for you. Thanks for watching and taking the time to give us some feedback.
@@LegendaryTactics I only play with 4 players and just starting out. Is there another video which helps the 4 player game? Great vid BTW
@@markhamilton2749 I really enjoy the work by Dylighted. He's got some great ideas and I bet he's got something that would help you. We haven't focused too much on the 4p games yet. Although, I did make a catan placement puzzle based on the canadian national game that would be good practice for you.
Did you know your settlements are too close to each other? In the rules they say 2 road spaces from each settlement.
That is correct. My editor grabbed the wrong footage there.
It’s 4:35 AM and I’m strategizing my game tomorrow… I blame the booze but 🤷🏼♂️
You know you're in too deep when all you can think about at 4:30 am is Catan. Good luck.
9:11 you can not place a settlement in front of an another
That editor was promptly fired and never spoken to again for this transgression.
@@LegendaryTactics I can't tell if that was sarcasm or not 😭
I have two older games and the 5-6 player expanse that have all separate tiles. including ports and water.
Expecting advanced strategy but getting explanation of the basic game. Good presentation tho.
Thanks Mr. O. This one was intended as a beginner / intermediate guide. We're searching for a World Champion Catan player who we can talk to for the advanced guide. That's certainly on the production schedule. But we really want to find the right expert to offer their ideas.
@@LegendaryTactics i know intermediate/advanced tactics
I have a question about trading, can only the active player initiate trades with others? can others initiate a trade with the active player as well?
Correct.
Super new to this game. But I feel like there is too much RNG. Thoughts?
I absolutely agree. That's part of why I think some people really love the game. The best player isn't always necessarily going to win. For me, that's a drawback. I love when the outcome is as closely linked to the skill of the player as possible. However, it does mean that it appeals to a really wide audience, including people who need a little luck on their side.
There are tons of ways to mitigate the RNG and to work with it though, so it still has some value from a strategic perspective. When I play Catan, it feels like the scene from the play Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead where Ros gets heads 95 times in a row. that's my luck in Catan. But it will be the 12s and 2s that come up over and over while I'm sitting on 6s and 8s getting nothing while pondering my Existential lot in life.
Yeah, I just got the game, and have only played it a few times. For me, it's maddening at how much luck is involved. However, I like how simple the game is, so you don't put in a ton of time, just to get destroyed by a streak of horrible luck. It's a simple game, with a healthy dose of skill, but the outcome will typically be decided by who the dice favors.
I completely agree, but I feel like there is no other option
@@E3Wandz Indeed, that's an intrinsic part of why people love this game.
@Matthew Klingerman Proof that you're right is that there are players who consistently dominate at the National and International level. While any player can have a bad game as a result of bad luck, the game does have enough die rolls that eventually probability and good skill will prevail in most cases.
Is this screen grab on the video from a place you can play online?
Indeed it is! This is tabletop simulator on Steam
pretty noob tips. in original catan you really don't need a balance of cards to win. if there are good numbers on wheat, rock and sheep thats all you need.
development cards will give you the flexibility to expand and the knights will give you control of the board so you're always rolling.
Indeed, we intended this as an introductory strategy guide. I've been trying to track down a world champion to do an advanced guide.
i heard you should look at YOP as the best port deal in the game. I'm never unhappy with a YOP however i do think it falls off later in the game :)
I don t understand what u mean about being able to trade with 8 cards. If I have a port 3:1 i need at least 11 resources to be sure that i can trade
He said build, not trade. If you're on a 3:1 then you can at least build a road or development card
yes, correct
Why mention going for 3:1 tile as a strategy over the 2:1 tile?
when placing initial settlements, how do you decide who places their first initial settlement? and then there 2nd initial settlement? like whoever rolls the highest number goes first, 2nd highest goes 2nd, etc. and then when placing the 2nd initial settlement the order is reversed?
Ex:
1st initial settlement placement in order: Bob, Sally, Sarah, John
2nd initial settlement placement in order: John, Sarah, Sally, Bob
You all roll the die and go from highest to lowest number
You roll the dice who gets the highest number starts
Remember you can play a knight before you roll.
Ore Wheat Sheep is stronger than 1 of everything. OWS Hybrid is strong too especially with Brick
very high quality
Brilliant! Hopefully it's helpful.
Huh what dude!?
@@Petero1947 big time.
I wish this would work but my brother will do anything toget me to loose he once got everyone to turn against me
One of this game's pitfalls is that it's easy for players to gang up.
anyone know the source for the background video at 6:50 ? thanks
Yes! We use WeVideo and subscribe to their archive of stock footage.
You can’t place a settlement one space away from another settlement or city
Our editor was a complete rookie when we made this
@@LegendaryTactics 😅
What is "adjacent"?
Next to, or beside
Where are you playing online?
The images your see in the video are from Tabletop Simulator in Steam. Catan Universe is a much better platform though.
what electronic version are you using to show the game?
That's tabletop simulator on Steam. You need to subscribe to the Catan workshop to access it.
@@LegendaryTactics Is there a discord for catan players in table top simulator
what version of the game is this?
what digital version is this it doesn't look like catan universe
That's tabletop simulator on Steam
Good information
I'm glad it was helpful. Thanks for taking the time to let us know.
@@LegendaryTactics ; I just played for my first time today and found your video very helpful!
If u can’t get all 5 resources on nice numbers then aim for a 2 for 1 port. If ur having a shitty game then just aim all development cards
This video just states the obvious
You simply have superior Catan knowledge. But yes, we were aiming for introductory to intermediate level players.
I have only played the game 4 times in 3 years. NO, it was not all obvious and I rewatched several times to understand what he actually meant.
@@edbrackin you sound like a very slow learner
@@edbrackin There's a lot of nuance with this game if you haven't lived and breathed it for a long time.
@@jameslongmire13 you seem like a very real a…
There are 2 ways of getting an 11.
what this is not advanced this is the beginner strategy
😁
The real trick is just development cards
It certainly is one path to victory, but I think it's best used in combination with other strategies
Thanks
12 not 11 there are two ways to get 11.
The unfortunate reality of catan universe is its obviously rigged in too many ways.
That's a shame.
Appreciate the effort, but your tips do not hold up to high level play and are overly generic. Also the sidney crosby analogy makes no sense… you would absolulely take crosby and an nhl level “schlep” over two average players every chance you got… sorry, but this is the opposite of strategy
I hate sheep
Ha ha, don't we all!
You are pronouncing the game incorrectly!
Legendary Tactics
5 minutes ago
Remember that I am not German though, so despite my best efforts, I tend to go with the pronunciation of my region. I have in fact done the video on the proper pronunciation: ruclips.net/video/vycVjAoUeMQ/видео.html. Most Americans also say the name incorrectly (Catawn is not in fact correct). But you're right that my pronunciation "Catanne" is also not correct.
@@LegendaryTactics bro you have a completely normal american accent lmao good job
@@largebowl289 I try to blend in.
@@LegendaryTactics haha you’re doing perfect😎
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