It still slows you down just the same ... Limit is tire grip , always ... This just allows you to keep braking for longer , so if you are doing a mountain downhill run you can trust your brakes to not overheat ...
@@benjamin.schreiberbicycle and motorcycle tech has come together and diverged for over a century now. You'd be surprised how much they have improved eachother. From the tech to the tricks.
I come from an BMX Background and I am totally happy with my brakes on my new levo. I guess it is due to the lag of comparision and the fact that I have a front brake now. 😂
Have the same set up on my 2021 Santa Cruz V10. But 200mm rotors front & rear. Already have Red & Black V4s & Red ventilated rotors for 2024 V10. 220 mm front 200 mm rear. Love em.
@KeyserSozesoyousay - Totally different comparisons, They're expensive for what they are. Lipo? Did you buy a battery that cost you this much? Or was the motor included?
there are people willing to pay >1k$ for a fucking pulley wheel, $150 is chump change also 150 is not actually that bad to have the best rotors considering hope v4s are like $600, 700, the entire hope brake setup would still be far far cheaper than some higher end alternatives like trickstuff brakes alone are around 2k while I personally stick to my regular hope rotors because vented is overkill, relatively speaking they are still ok'ish
Those are awesome, I was womdering who made them. Unfortunately brake rotor thickness is a standard for most. If you want those, you will need their calipers.
@chrisdague5153 Dirt Bikes/MX usually just short brake bursts before corners etc, not long sustained braking down a mountainside, these will help get rid of the heat
Money grab and marketing ploy! I’ve got over 35yrs of history with MTB’s, sport street bikes, MX and ATV’s. It wasn’t that long ago that DH bike weights were in the high 40’s to high 50’s. If weight of E-bikes is such an issue why hasn’t dual calipers/rotors been implemented? The MTB industry is so backwards, a dual caliper/rotor setup will always work better than any single disc setup!
It got implemented, pretty sure the pressures were too low due to the cable splitter, and because it was at the time of 9mm qr dropouts, the braking force kept pulling wheels out the dropout. It also means manufacturers have to make left and right sided calipers which would be expensive on the tooling side.
@@kingflynxi9420 I recall the attempt. It was just that, an attempt that never gained traction. In a time where seat post cost up to $300 plus, I’d say a dual caliper setup is due. I’ve seen a video here on YT of a guy in the UK that created a dual setup. Looked solid and seems to be on the right path.
Hope themselves market these as having a small increase in heat dissipation and regular discs being enough for most applications. It is a luxury item and marketed as such, nobody is selling these as essential, so I really do not understand why you would complain. Dual rotors would mean more weight and complexity, so no thank you.
Truly beautiful works of brilliance. But, representing something that will become obsolete: disk breaks turn kinetic energy into heat. Why throw away all of that energy? Instead, use it to charge yir batteries, etc.
I had hope E4s on my bike and upgraded to Shimano Saints, there’s no comparison Shimano brakes are so much better than Hope, even though Hopes look very cool.
Normally I'd agree, but it is proven stuff from MotoGP down to high spec cars with channelled airflow to vented discs. Nothing new, just more finessed.
More a novelty thing than actual good engineering. Can't expect much flow with that size slots and wheel rpm. Does not beat the aluminium sandwich of shimano. Thermal conductivity of aluminium is 15x greater than stainless.
Imagine that somebody adds even Bigger discs and wheels,maybe even puts some kind of machine that can drive those wheels better and it uses energy derived from some special liquid...we can call that invention machine cycle or something
remember how Bill Gate say 640k ram is enough forever??? When i first use my MTB disc brake... i though SINGLE PISTON and SINGLE DISC brakes are good enough forever... I was so wrong....
I don't even have a emtb, but I'm large in size. My 203mm Shimano Saint brake callipers with metal pads smell after a long downhill, they are cooking! My carbon frame at the calliper mount is warm to the touch from all the heat transfer. I plan to get a emtb next Year,wish me luck 😅
lets ignore the absurd pricepoint at the moment. i saw those already.... and they are stupid because the amount of additional braking power is VERY LITTLE. 220mm & you double down on the discs? Guys, we dont ride cars, we ride bikes! Those discs will NEVER heat up properly to guarantee good efficiency. Even the most extreme downhill tournament riders dont need that much "passive cooling" on disc brakes. and wow, they even missed to install heat-fins on them. PLUS you will need a custom brake system to use this shit because the discs are much wider then allowed and wont fit in standards. btw, those disc brakes clog up with mud, HAVE FUN cleaning that after EVERY RIDE bro
When I just slapped on my new wheels and Ohlins and think my build is finished, you show me these beauties
Fox 40's, have you heard?
Build will be never fully finished
one must imagine a biker happy
@@p0zy_uwu I’m my happiest on the bike bro, true
Yet on rainy days , I love tinkering on my bikes
ça fait au moins 15 ans que ça existe
regarde le prix, je ne sais pas si tu aura encore envie après 😅
And If you have enough unused parts layin around its time for another Bike 😂
Bro slows down the earths rotation every time he brakes
😑that's not how physics or humor works . . .
@@shaunohare3004its a joke. . .
It still slows you down just the same ... Limit is tire grip , always ... This just allows you to keep braking for longer , so if you are doing a mountain downhill run you can trust your brakes to not overheat ...
❤
😂
I've got it on my turbolevo! Simply amazing braking power. No fatigue or fading also in long down slopes!
Same here, swapped my Maguras out for these
Next step: double vented front-discs?!🙌🏽💪🏽🤘🏽
yes but carbon ceramics
Just like motorcycles.. 🏍
Really? 😂😂😂
Build this years ago in our bike shop.
Hope made those discs for years
@@benjamin.schreiberbicycle and motorcycle tech has come together and diverged for over a century now. You'd be surprised how much they have improved eachother. From the tech to the tricks.
@@samuelsloth6730For example, both have wheels
XTR 203's work fabulously well
Meravigliosi finalmente un disco ventilato degno delle nostre bike
i like it so much... very very nice... perfect😮
nice upgrade for faster, heavier ebikes, where most disc brakes still come up a bit shy under excessive use.
Guys are acting like theyre racing their e-bike while 99% of the time its old fat people driving them, not even braking for red lights.
@@Coldvalor12354 haha, fatties can’t stop for red lights, takes too much energy to get back up to speed…😳
I have 220 mm on my not electric bike, they aren’t only meant for e bikes
@@9gerDownhill Brakes
@@Coldvalor12354
Ошибаетесь.
Я на своём даю жару.
I come from an BMX Background and I am totally happy with my brakes on my new levo. I guess it is due to the lag of comparision and the fact that I have a front brake now. 😂
Like a piece of Art
That combination color of Fox orange and Renthal bars......Beautiful!!!!🤌
Sweet vision design!🏁
Sick.
Because Hope Disc's weren't already pricy enough! :)
Here We gooo! The never Ending stories 😂
Now my Magura brakes looks like trash...
Magura are never trash!
Maguras are never even close to bad
Have the same set up on my 2021 Santa Cruz V10. But 200mm rotors front & rear. Already have Red & Black V4s & Red ventilated rotors for 2024 V10. 220 mm front 200 mm rear. Love em.
Been out for years! I had them back in 2015!
Ebike components are getting really nice
My 200cc bike have unvented rotors 😂
Some cars too
@@pasti07 The vast majority of cars.
But they are much larger in diameter and thicker , so they can dissipate more heat and are more durable
@@deadbirdwalking1159on the rear brakes , sure , fronts have been vast majority vented for like 20+ years
Yup , so does my 1000cc Suprbike ...
Been waiting for some fab breaks to come out with the pro 5 hubs, just right😮😊👌❤️🇬🇧beautiful
149 dollars for a brake disc😂 but what he wants is his business
Chump change, the lipo alone on my build was 600
@KeyserSozesoyousay - Totally different comparisons, They're expensive for what they are. Lipo? Did you buy a battery that cost you this much? Or was the motor included?
there are people willing to pay >1k$ for a fucking pulley wheel, $150 is chump change
also 150 is not actually that bad to have the best rotors considering hope v4s are like $600, 700, the entire hope brake setup would still be far far cheaper than some higher end alternatives like trickstuff brakes alone are around 2k
while I personally stick to my regular hope rotors because vented is overkill, relatively speaking they are still ok'ish
Cool looking
Want me to predict the next hot new iteration of mountain bike brakes? Dual rotor and dual caliper! Soooo unique! .....just like a common motorcycle.
Wait for the price tag folks
5k dollars lol, jk
@@nwadillarguethatll be srams next brake
More than the 320 mm ones of my Mercedes?
Someone sounds poor 😂😂
@@mysticabbagerealm Someone sounds in debt.
É de encher o olho d'água, que coisa linda piá.
Those are awesome, I was womdering who made them. Unfortunately brake rotor thickness is a standard for most.
If you want those, you will need their calipers.
Useless. If a dirt bike can go far fast and longer than an ebike and not need vented rotors, I see no need
@chrisdague5153 Dirt Bikes/MX usually just short brake bursts before corners etc, not long sustained braking down a mountainside, these will help get rid of the heat
@@danielstaals6680 Correct, don't usually ride MX downhill for long. Also they use 4mm rotors non vented, these are 3mm vented.
Wenn man mit einem 26" Dirtbike Downhill fährt macht die Scheibe Sinn.
Das machen natürlich nur sehr wenige aber es macht Spaß.
До момента пока не перегрееш
Descenso amigo. Y los frenos son mucho más pequeños
Крыло от самолёта.....👍🤣
Bro just bought the Bugatti brakes
Waiting for carbon ceramic 8 Piston on e-bikes
@@kiwaycanny6522 lol 100% true
It amazes me that they go to this length and continue to put such short levers on.
Money grab and marketing ploy! I’ve got over 35yrs of history with MTB’s, sport street bikes, MX and ATV’s. It wasn’t that long ago that DH bike weights were in the high 40’s to high 50’s. If weight of E-bikes is such an issue why hasn’t dual calipers/rotors been implemented? The MTB industry is so backwards, a dual caliper/rotor setup will always work better than any single disc setup!
It got implemented, pretty sure the pressures were too low due to the cable splitter, and because it was at the time of 9mm qr dropouts, the braking force kept pulling wheels out the dropout. It also means manufacturers have to make left and right sided calipers which would be expensive on the tooling side.
@@kingflynxi9420 I recall the attempt. It was just that, an attempt that never gained traction. In a time where seat post cost up to $300 plus, I’d say a dual caliper setup is due. I’ve seen a video here on YT of a guy in the UK that created a dual setup. Looked solid and seems to be on the right path.
Hope themselves market these as having a small increase in heat dissipation and regular discs being enough for most applications. It is a luxury item and marketed as such, nobody is selling these as essential, so I really do not understand why you would complain.
Dual rotors would mean more weight and complexity, so no thank you.
It’s cause the bike industry and 80% of its customers are coo-coo in the head.
The dual is only on the front. And im a back breaker first. Always
A $120 rotor that does not fit any other caliper! Other than theirs! Smooth move Ex-Lax!
Looking more and more like motorcycle rotors every year….
Looking more and more like motorbike parts every day, Looking trick.❤
Cool bike 🎉
When things are 5hit,
There’s always Hope 😂
cracked me up !!
Best on the market 100000%
Who needs brakes? Just send it!
You sir have the best attitude in the comments section! I salute 🫡 you sir 😂😂😂
Truly beautiful works of brilliance. But, representing something that will become obsolete: disk breaks turn kinetic energy into heat. Why throw away all of that energy? Instead, use it to charge yir batteries, etc.
I knew vented rotors were coming.👍😉
Ya, they came like 25 years ago, from hope. probably others also.
Nice! Good luck with the rubbing 😂
Holy freaking crap those are monsters
I can see a small part of that bike but can tell it's beautiful!
I'm MTB stunt rider from Pakistan ❤
En mi país no hay bicicletas como esta😂👍
E ci voleva tanto? Per me ottimo concetto.
they are cool as hell but if you think no mx bike in the world has vented rotors theres probably reason
I had hope E4s on my bike and upgraded to Shimano Saints, there’s no comparison Shimano brakes are so much better than Hope, even though Hopes look very cool.
Wow nc bike bro
There well cool!
Please make a longer video. After ten times watching it, i had to go to the next video and comme back to see it another ten times..
Thats why they have Tech behind Hope
Is it really necessary for vented brakes? Does the brake really get that hot that braking performance gets affected?
You have to get the Hope wheelset with Hope hubs to complete the setup
Creo que esos discos generan peso adicional a las bicicletas...
Hope Tech 3 V4 with vented discs...best setup. Use this on my Ghost 9000
wonder why they don't use rim brakes seeing people scream how good they are 😂😂
👍Nice for heavy bikes😋
Is there a point to this? Wouldn't it be more suited to DH racer bikes?
У меня стояли такие на моем giant glory. Отличные тормоза.
Could use this on our tandem!
Top
Pensa numa máquina linda
This has to be in the top most pointless things I've ever seen for bikes.
Ever lost your brakes overheating Them mid trail ? Not funny at all
Great for a Ebike.
You definitely have never rode at a dh park
Normally I'd agree, but it is proven stuff from MotoGP down to high spec cars with channelled airflow to vented discs. Nothing new, just more finessed.
Ya, but do you know why cars and motor bikes need that? And why normal bikes do not?@@lt1eg6
More a novelty thing than actual good engineering. Can't expect much flow with that size slots and wheel rpm. Does not beat the aluminium sandwich of shimano. Thermal conductivity of aluminium is 15x greater than stainless.
Too bad shimano doesnt make them havier and thicker.
I can feel the shuddering already
C est beau ❤
When you think, you got nothing left to pimp😂
Imagine that somebody adds even Bigger discs and wheels,maybe even puts some kind of machine that can drive those wheels better and it uses energy derived from some special liquid...we can call that invention machine cycle or something
Vented and "Floating"👍
NOBODY NEEDS TO STOP THAT QUICKLY 😳
@robridesemtb how do these V4's feel on your Crestline compared to the new SRAM Mavics?
The distance between the my 2.3mm rotor and the brake caliper mount is less than the distance that the pad is. Will these even fit?
Less smart cyclists would complain about 50 grams of extra weight.
203mm is 288 grams....so 50 gram heavier if u have rotors that weight 238...for each one. But emtb weight doesn't matter as much as mtb weight.
Nice Upgrade for heavier Riders with E-Bike over 100kg or 120kg.
What's next? Carbon ceramic brakes? Gearqueens will buy even that.
Next stop Carbon Carbon disks & pads but these are superb effort love them
remember how Bill Gate say 640k ram is enough forever???
When i first use my MTB disc brake... i though SINGLE PISTON and SINGLE DISC brakes are good enough forever...
I was so wrong....
Where you buy that discs ? And the adaptator
Para que quieras un disco que se va a doblar con la mirada y te va a frenar a rueda?
I don't even have a emtb, but I'm large in size. My 203mm Shimano Saint brake callipers with metal pads smell after a long downhill, they are cooking! My carbon frame at the calliper mount is warm to the touch from all the heat transfer.
I plan to get a emtb next Year,wish me luck 😅
Muita sorte e determinação, parabéns pelo hábito de caminhar
Nice 👍
Is ebike brake fade a problem?
Wow 😮
lets ignore the absurd pricepoint at the moment.
i saw those already.... and they are stupid because the amount of additional braking power is VERY LITTLE.
220mm & you double down on the discs? Guys, we dont ride cars, we ride bikes! Those discs will NEVER heat up properly to guarantee good efficiency.
Even the most extreme downhill tournament riders dont need that much "passive cooling" on disc brakes.
and wow, they even missed to install heat-fins on them.
PLUS you will need a custom brake system to use this shit because the discs are much wider then allowed and wont fit in standards.
btw, those disc brakes clog up with mud, HAVE FUN cleaning that after EVERY RIDE bro
Sweet that rotor, I've got those brakes on my bike aswel with a floating 180 hope rotor in the same colour.
Наконец сделали нормальные ротора к моим Густавам!
overkill? looks heavy but solid
На велосипеде это очень актуально, когда средняя скорость 15 км/ч))
Wow
So... whi makes them? Who has them? How much are they ? Will they fit on my 3 year old trek marlin 6 ?
Let's goo break may good 🇧🇷
Maybe overkill unless you’re staunchly opposed to any brake fade whatsoever
Ese disco son grueso😮hay tiene vida como una moto!
How do the wheels turn without a chain on it or a belt
I❤😂🎉 want these on a regular schedule MTB_+
Machine!
how about double disc front and rear?
Istimewah..
I see a face plant in our future!!
I need these