That is terrifying! I know I don't have to tell you with your medical background but, you're lucky to be alive and without permanent damage. I can't belive you were calm enough to last that long without medical intervention. Holy Cow!!!!!
That’s must be horrible… BUT Cardiologist your real job ? You’re not fooling me… 🤣🤣🤣 Repairing hearts valves and hearts malformations its your hobby 😂😂
Pretty much sorb is sorb. Not sure how that would change, but CCR manufacturers are always working on ways to keep it away from the loop. To be fair, it is not very common of an issue, but it is possible. Just what we are willing to do and train for in orderr to have longer dives :)
Not all "Sorb" is sorb. ExtendAir cartridges are particularly problematic in regard to water in the loop. Normal granular sorb will absorb a fair amount of water and turn into "mud", thereby holding the water and preventing it from sloshing around and making it to your mouth. ExtendAir cartridges on the other hand don't do that. So even a small amount of water that gets into the loop can make contact with the cartridge, become highly alkaline, and then slosh around to your mouth.
yes, he says the reb was leaking during the first 2 dives, which led to the intake of water and formation of the basic caustic cocktail (CaCO3 dissolved in H2O)
During training we just dabbed the tip of our finger in a little bit of wet sorb. It was overwhelming. Definetely shows you the importance of setting things up. Coreectly
@Navy1977 it's actually not a gas. It is water that gets into the sorb, then back Into the loop which leads to your mouth. We are trained all about caustic cocktail. It is not common for this to happen but it is possible. If you our your gear together wrong or have a leaking o ring this can happen. There are other ways to get water inside the unit but they pretty much all add up to user error.
Is it possible to build in some sort of acid-base indicator that dumps a vanilla acid like acetic acid into the loop or wherever it may need it to neutralise the caustic and create harmless byproducts that can burp out!/be inhaled?
Interesting idea for sure, but personally I think the low revreather ownership/use mixed with the often very imformed proper use by most people making the investment just doesn't really require the additional cost and complexity to be worth adding another possibly dangerous chemical, plus another system to potential fail in the loop of life...Kind of like how too many safety items can actually cause accidents to happen with various equipment types or even people using so much protective equipment a task actually becomes more dangerous than before... But all I can imagine is a big expanding foam cocktail shooting through the system like vinegar/baking soda or elephant toothpaste aka hydrogen peroxide/dish detergent 😂 although if it would block the regulator instead of flowing striaght through that may be an upside 😉👍Although don't think I'm criticizing your ideas or thoughts about inventions! That's always something worth doing, whether the idea is good or bad, as nearly all great inventions started out as "unnecessary" ideas or items in the beginning... 😉👍
That is really scary. A wonder hé didn’t drown after ingestion and coughing. Thank you for sharing.
That is terrifying! I know I don't have to tell you with your medical background but, you're lucky to be alive and without permanent damage. I can't belive you were calm enough to last that long without medical intervention. Holy Cow!!!!!
That’s must be horrible… BUT Cardiologist your real job ? You’re not fooling me… 🤣🤣🤣 Repairing hearts valves and hearts malformations its your hobby 😂😂
Pretty much sorb is sorb. Not sure how that would change, but CCR manufacturers are always working on ways to keep it away from the loop. To be fair, it is not very common of an issue, but it is possible. Just what we are willing to do and train for in orderr to have longer dives :)
Not all "Sorb" is sorb. ExtendAir cartridges are particularly problematic in regard to water in the loop. Normal granular sorb will absorb a fair amount of water and turn into "mud", thereby holding the water and preventing it from sloshing around and making it to your mouth. ExtendAir cartridges on the other hand don't do that. So even a small amount of water that gets into the loop can make contact with the cartridge, become highly alkaline, and then slosh around to your mouth.
Dove with a buddy who is CCR diver too. Had the exact same story except for the talking. Drowning without drowning. Scary stuff.
I'd be curious if Doug had PFTs after all this. That stuff is obviously bad for your vocal cords, but it isn't good for the lungs either.
I'll ask him.
Yes. Before returning to diving I had pulmonary function tests and an exercise stress test with pulse oximetry to make sure there was no lung damage.
Wonderful bonus. Thank you Blue World. raphael nyc
These dive stories have turned out to be so much fun. I never fail to learn something!
But why did this happen? Was there any mistake?
yes, he says the reb was leaking during the first 2 dives, which led to the intake of water and formation of the basic caustic cocktail (CaCO3 dissolved in H2O)
@@mattiafarronato9484 but why was it leaking? Was it faulty or was it a human error?
@@michalpotokfaulty seal. Could have happened when the diver was assembling the unit. So yes, it comes down to diver error.
During training we just dabbed the tip of our finger in a little bit of wet sorb. It was overwhelming. Definetely shows you the importance of setting things up. Coreectly
@Navy1977 it's actually not a gas. It is water that gets into the sorb, then back Into the loop which leads to your mouth.
We are trained all about caustic cocktail. It is not common for this to happen but it is possible.
If you our your gear together wrong or have a leaking o ring this can happen. There are other ways to get water inside the unit but they pretty much all add up to user error.
Yikes!
Douglas "Razor Ramone" "Scott Hall" Ebersole. 😁
Is it possible to build in some sort of acid-base indicator that dumps a vanilla acid like acetic acid into the loop or wherever it may need it to neutralise the caustic and create harmless byproducts that can burp out!/be inhaled?
The vinegar-injecting panic button!
Interesting idea for sure, but personally I think the low revreather ownership/use mixed with the often very imformed proper use by most people making the investment just doesn't really require the additional cost and complexity to be worth adding another possibly dangerous chemical, plus another system to potential fail in the loop of life...Kind of like how too many safety items can actually cause accidents to happen with various equipment types or even people using so much protective equipment a task actually becomes more dangerous than before... But all I can imagine is a big expanding foam cocktail shooting through the system like vinegar/baking soda or elephant toothpaste aka hydrogen peroxide/dish detergent 😂 although if it would block the regulator instead of flowing striaght through that may be an upside 😉👍Although don't think I'm criticizing your ideas or thoughts about inventions! That's always something worth doing, whether the idea is good or bad, as nearly all great inventions started out as "unnecessary" ideas or items in the beginning... 😉👍
You could neutralize the Caustic Soda with acid, but the reaction is extreme. I guess having that blown in your face, you will drown for sure.