The World Is Ugly [Full 2008 Live Demo Version] with Lyrics - My Chemical Romance

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
  • hi all! i'm back with another random video, which is a lyric video for the 2008 live demo version of The World Is Ugly by My Chemical Romance. this version has such a special place in my heart, despite still adoring the Conventional Weapons studio version, i find the lyrics and the emotions of this version so much more powerful. i've looked around on youtube and not many people are making videos about this song at all, and i'm pretty sure only one lyric video exists, and half of the lyrics are wrong (sorry 🙊)
    i still don't think even i have the lyrics 100% since the audio quality is pretty bad at times. but i'd say this lyric video is probably 99.9% accurate.
    and don't freak out at the random switch of audio quality towards the end, just in case you haven't heard this song before now. they played this version only once i'm pretty sure, and literally only like two videos exist on youtube of the actual performance, so to get the full version of this song, both had to be mashed together since the first person (with the better audio quality) didn't record the whole song, le sigh 😣
    but despite wishing we had a high quality recording of this version, i still feel blessed that we have any recording at all!
    enjoy ✨
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Комментарии • 149

  • @MyPetGargoyle_
    @MyPetGargoyle_ 4 года назад +476

    I do not understand why they changed the original. This version is the most beautiful thing I've ever heard

    • @user-op6mp2gl3r
      @user-op6mp2gl3r 4 года назад +57

      it was changed bc gerard wrote songs for how he felt at the time, the thing that changed was bandit's birth which caused the newer version to have lyrics directed towards bandit

    • @scaredbread
      @scaredbread 4 года назад +22

      Zero , yah as much as I like the official version I like this one because it has so much emotion, and energy put into it that is so hard to match.

    • @calebwray5330
      @calebwray5330 4 года назад +1

      producers......

    • @aa.5110
      @aa.5110 4 года назад +2

      Much more emotional

    • @jazz.s-the-name
      @jazz.s-the-name 3 года назад +30

      This version was written when he broke up with his ex gf, and the newer version was written when he started a family and had Bandit Way and Lindsey Way. I don't think he'd want to cry as he was becoming happier and getting better with a woman and a child he loves. The emotion plays a role.
      Anyways, the studio version was probably from perspective of someone rebellious enough to love someone the way they do. They have to leave (possibly forever) and didn't want their lover to cry, so tried to not seem as heartbroken and sad as they leave even though they felt that way.

  • @E_g_MD
    @E_g_MD 4 года назад +221

    You can hear the Raw emotions in his voice. It literally sounds like he is in pain. That's what makes this more special than the Studio version, because you can feel, hear, the emotions by the way he sings.

  • @prollydatboi8841
    @prollydatboi8841 10 месяцев назад +18

    1:29
    Line is “ are you thinking of me? Are you thinking of him? You could say you’re sorry, but I think you both should go”

  • @calebwray5330
    @calebwray5330 4 года назад +102

    this song song makes me remember how much gerard way cares about his fan base,the message behind it,"the world is ugly but your beautiful to me" its so annoying how they blame him when a fan of his commits suicide all of his songs are about not giving up and about "not afraid to keep on living" literally spelled out like in famous last words

    • @3twibles4sweetrevenge
      @3twibles4sweetrevenge Год назад

      Its not his fault who tf says this

    • @DreamsOfLennox
      @DreamsOfLennox Год назад +11

      @@3twibles4sweetrevenge a lot of people. all the time. it was more common back during their prime but id assume it still happens. media outlets in the 2000s were always blaming the "satanic cultish emo bands" for any sort of violence, anger, or suicide that came from teens at the time. it seems silly to anyone who knows about the music and what it means, and how it in fact SAVES people from doing things like that a lot of times, but its incredibly common for people outside of the sphere to use band members and other creators of teenage entertainment as a scapegoat instead of actually assessing the issues they claim to care about

  • @thaisherrera3827
    @thaisherrera3827 5 лет назад +234

    THANK YOU. This version was played during the concert I went to in Sao Paulo in Brazil in 2008 and honestly the official album version will never live up to this. I literally cried back then and it still moves me... I only wish this version made into an album with a decent audio quality ;(

    • @odetoanathema
      @odetoanathema  5 лет назад +21

      Thaís Herrera you were actually there? 😱 aaaah that had to have been SO amazing!! like wow, you were one of the only people to ever hear this version live. how special! i don’t doubt it still does resonate with you like that, i’d feel the same! this version truly is something great and the studio version just is not the same, i agree. it’s basically a whole different song, in my opinion. i love the vibe of this version way more! i wish we had better audio too :(
      hey maybe they did actually record this one and they’ll put it out someday like they did with the living with ghosts album 🤷🏻‍♀️ we can only hope!

    • @thaisherrera3827
      @thaisherrera3827 5 лет назад +9

      Yeah! well, lucky me! haha they played 2 days, I went in the 2nd day, so it might be the other day's recording, but still. Sadly smartphones were not a thing yet and I couldn't record anything cuz my camera battery ran out, plus the audio quality sucked haha. But in my mind I remember like it was yesterday. Small venue so I could watch it really close to the stage which was great, I was on the left side in front of Ray, and once Gerard walked right in front of me and I was SO excited fangirling so hard I even yelled MARRY ME GERARD! HAHAHA - true story. I also remember at Sleep they made a different intro with a drums solo which was awesome. And when this song started I was like 'shIT A NEW ONE??" and it hit me right in the feels. 02/18/2008. never forget. Wow, exactly a month from now today it will be 11 years!! excuse me while I go cry a lot

    • @odetoanathema
      @odetoanathema  5 лет назад +4

      Thaís Herrera that is just so cool! i love hearing about concert experiences, and especially from MCR concerts considering i never got to go to one 😩 so i just live through the stories of others haha and that seemed like such a great one. wow. awesome!! and holy crap yeah, it really is the anniversary of it! that’s wild!!

    • @thaisherrera3827
      @thaisherrera3827 5 лет назад +3

      haha yeah, I guess I know how you feel cuz I feel the same way about LP concerts, lost my chances forever ;( I feel I'll never get over MCR breaking up I guess so I keep watching these videos so I can feel a little bit of how I felt during that time hahaha it kinda hurts bc it's gone but at the same time feels nice in a weird way

    • @thiagosilveira2141
      @thiagosilveira2141 4 года назад +4

      Na verdade este áudio é extraído do vídeo do show que teve em Curitiba! Eu fui e chorei tanto quando cantaram, está música também tem um significado muito forte para mim❤️

  • @matte4562
    @matte4562 4 года назад +130

    I wish they had made a studio version of this. Don't get me wrong, I do love the version they made, but I would love to hear this all cleaned up and raw on an album

  • @CassieMakesArt
    @CassieMakesArt Год назад +21

    2:03-2:44... straight full body chills every time

  • @issycole8256
    @issycole8256 6 лет назад +50

    Don’t mind me WHILE I CRY

  • @karaokekid9025
    @karaokekid9025 5 лет назад +25

    ...the studio version is amazing,but this is.... holy fuck this is a masterpiece.

  • @aliyaafiqah1283
    @aliyaafiqah1283 4 года назад +37

    FINALLY THANKS AFTER ALL THESE YEARS I FOUND THIS VERSION. THE FULL VERSION

  • @Cree_Empire
    @Cree_Empire 3 года назад +29

    The more I listen to this version I feel like it’s about cheating. It sounds like one of them found out they were being cheated on while gone on tour

    • @BellaNat10n
      @BellaNat10n 2 года назад +5

      it’s supposedly about Eliza, Gerard’s ex

    • @benja_girl
      @benja_girl Год назад +2

      @@BellaNat10n i thought it was ab lynz idk where tf i heard that from lol

    • @lauraslade5308
      @lauraslade5308 Год назад +2

      Lindsey apparently had a fiance while on the 2007 Projekt Revolution tour. The same tour she married Gerard on. This is just a rumour tho, so I would recommend doing your own research

  • @jessy5653
    @jessy5653 5 лет назад +42

    i like this version way more than the original i'm sorry can't change my mind... ._.'

  • @albatross9719
    @albatross9719 5 лет назад +119

    the official version of this song is so shitty compared to this version.
    ALSO- If you are looking for a studio version, A youtube musician named Billy Cobb did an epic studio grade cover of this song. He sings very similarly to Gerard, and it's a great alternative to mourning the fact that this version was never finished.

    • @Staplegun
      @Staplegun 4 года назад

      Oh snap! I didn't know he did a cover of this, thanks mang!

    • @ashbye1863
      @ashbye1863 3 года назад +1

      I thank you for this, because I am now obsessed

    • @crazypenguindota
      @crazypenguindota 3 года назад

      @@ashbye1863 obsessed with Billy? Welcome to the club

    • @systemfailure8515
      @systemfailure8515 3 года назад +3

      here's the link to it: ruclips.net/video/hHzbR3RpbqE/видео.html

  • @ThePirateWoman
    @ThePirateWoman 4 года назад +74

    This version is the most beautiful song ever written, I was so disappointed when I heard CW version... here you have true emotions, real pain and sadness. So beautiful

  • @НейтральныйМаппер-з2м

    3:36 sounds like one of a highest gee's note

    • @TAB00
      @TAB00 3 года назад +2

      it’s so raw oh my god

    • @standard-carrier-wo-chan
      @standard-carrier-wo-chan 2 года назад +1

      Definitely his highest live voice, or at least pre-Danger Days.

  • @scaredbread
    @scaredbread 4 года назад +18

    Who tf disliked, I wanna have a little chat,

  • @luckieboi7155
    @luckieboi7155 5 лет назад +33

    No dislikes, just as it should be

  • @Landonia_
    @Landonia_ 3 года назад +14

    WOW. This is way better than the released version. Very similar to I don’t love you or a demolition lovers vibe. The other person who said that in the comments credit to you.

  • @catgamerr1414
    @catgamerr1414 10 месяцев назад +8

    I seriously need this version on Spotify rn

  • @z0mb1e.g1rll
    @z0mb1e.g1rll Год назад +10

    This version of this song hits so hard. Mcr saved my life dude

  • @Wutties
    @Wutties 3 года назад +69

    I'm jealous of those who listen to the official version first
    They couldn't be disappointed by the official version like I was

    • @natalie_rose2861
      @natalie_rose2861 3 года назад +7

      I listened 2 the studio version 1st & I liked it but since I heard this I cant listen 2 the other version now. it just sounds weak & lacks soul & depth in comparison.

  • @sweetiedrops5534
    @sweetiedrops5534 4 года назад +14

    "Are you happy now?"
    Well, not really, thanks, I'm crying :'v

  • @user-op6mp2gl3r
    @user-op6mp2gl3r 4 года назад +79

    "But i think its just a phase"
    this is such a powerful line, one that i've thought to myself before i heard this version thinking about depression, sadness and anxiety when i'm lying awake and that line makes me realise how dumb i sound, thank you mcr

  • @kathysaurio
    @kathysaurio 2 года назад +10

    This makes me cry :(
    -The world Is ugly, but you're beautiful to me- Damn I love this phrase.

  • @YungJisatsu
    @YungJisatsu 2 года назад +13

    I hope this demo drops one day

  • @storytimetv1
    @storytimetv1 9 месяцев назад +2

    ok but their sound changed as band members change. the original band made MCR. they were in sync. but as stuff started happening and new guys came in the sound just is not the same. like with the rolling stones. and Way trying to go solo just didn't have the MCR spirit. Poor Bob. he was a damn good drummer the they had and compared to other bands. he could really get the beat. And Frank. yeah and Way were into each other. so what? They didn't not have to force them selves to marry women and have kids. the fans would have been totally cool with them together. When frank left, Way just looked totally blank. he was singing but he was like he lost something. frank could put a light in his eye that wife can't. frank was a great support. My MCR dream is to see the original band i mean the welcome to the black parade band, get back together. They Made MCR. they are MCR. MCR is out on tour again. and that's great. but it's not like the real MCR. but that's just me. regardless, i shell remain a fan.

  • @gr3inf
    @gr3inf 4 года назад +21

    One of the saddest songs and I love it 😭

  • @natalie_rose2861
    @natalie_rose2861 3 года назад +13

    I looove this effing song. So beautiful, powerful, & gut wrenching. My #1 favorite from thier entire catalogue...it deserved so much more than it got. It's so goddamn intense. It grabs your attention & leaves an impact on you right away. U know they gotta have a few versions of this finished. Why didn't we get it on Living W/Ghosts??? 😭 I'd ball like a baby if this got released. My MCR collection doesn't feel complete w/o this version & Stay....

  • @sunglassesinsidee
    @sunglassesinsidee Год назад +19

    this sounding like it was recorded on a belt buckle is one of the greatest tragedies to have befallen the human race

  • @emipexu2779
    @emipexu2779 Год назад +8

    I like both versions but this is so much better. Wish they didn’t change it. So raw and emotional

  • @snowtrooperlml7372
    @snowtrooperlml7372 4 года назад +16

    Oh Gerard alguien debió lastimarte mucho, un amor te debió doler. Al menos eso está claro :C se siente como, como si en realidad Gerard no fuera nadie, tan solo una linda voz de un don nadie que está enamorado y quiere expresarse.

    • @albatross9719
      @albatross9719 4 года назад +3

      Él suena herido aquí, como si tuviera dolor físico.

  • @itzaquagaming6218
    @itzaquagaming6218 2 года назад +9

    bro this version is so fucking good that when the drums hit i went "holy shit" irl

  • @calebwray5330
    @calebwray5330 4 года назад +9

    thanks for this. This is so awesome. Love this version. The studio version is great but i bet they changed it cus of the second half of the song sounds not as "melodic",and its too raw the whole thing is besides. When producers hear a song like this they always change it.....wish this was on the album.

  • @izzatzaki7627
    @izzatzaki7627 7 месяцев назад +2

    i miss you so much z,

  • @nathalylopez3124
    @nathalylopez3124 3 года назад +11

    I want this to live in my mind rent free forever.

  • @transmissionzone148
    @transmissionzone148 11 месяцев назад +3

    The Supreme version

  • @electriksheep1508
    @electriksheep1508 5 лет назад +10

    i think it's not are you thinking again but are you thinking of me, it makes a lot more sense

    • @cianbellis8096
      @cianbellis8096 4 года назад +4

      I think its sre you thinking of him

    • @pigeondance687
      @pigeondance687 4 года назад

      I also thought that it was 'of him' but then relistened a bunch of times and now all i can hear is 'again'. Mainly because it doesn't sound like he's making an 'i' like in 'him' but rather a 'ai' like in 'againg'. and also I hear the 'g' sound

  • @William-yi2mq
    @William-yi2mq 6 месяцев назад +1

    É assim que devia ter sido o conventional weapons, pra mim, depois de the black parade, my chemical ficou bem mais comercial e com menos alma.
    Aqui parece uma mistura de black parade com bullets, meus dois álbuns preferidos, simplesmente perfeita essa música nessa versão, a letra sempre foi boa, mas o que faltou foi a emoção necessária.

  • @ThanatosSD
    @ThanatosSD Год назад +4

    Most of times the previous to the studio version has more impact and feelings than the more known one. Here you can feel that Gerard is singing with al his feelings and giving everything he got. love this raw and unfinished, yet perfect version.

  • @smurfshady7715
    @smurfshady7715 4 года назад +9

    Are y'all thinking of me like I'm thinking of y'all? Keep the black parade marching 🖤

    • @gemin.r.j
      @gemin.r.j 2 года назад +2

      This song is from Conventional weapons hahahaha

    • @smurfshady7715
      @smurfshady7715 2 года назад +1

      @@gemin.r.j I know that bud

  • @squidy8886
    @squidy8886 Год назад +3

    Plot Twist:
    Listen to the song like it’s about how Frank loves Gerard but, is mad at himself for leaving him behind, the ending being him at an argument with himself, almost like he’s screaming at a mirror.
    Not a Frerardie, but just a thought 🤷

    • @lauraslade5308
      @lauraslade5308 Год назад

      Since this song was written in 2008 (and just under a year after his marriage to Lindsey) I always assumed it was about him leaving Frank behind, but not being able to entirely let go of their relationship, despite him being married ('Well, I think you both should go', and the whole 'are you happy now that you got what you came for')

    • @xavirobinn2788
      @xavirobinn2788 Год назад +1

      this song is about his wife and how she allegedly cheated on him but okay man💀

    • @carla3693
      @carla3693 7 месяцев назад

      Is is about his wife cheating on him or was confirmed she had an affair with Steven from Mai his ex wife also confirmed

    • @squidy8886
      @squidy8886 7 месяцев назад

      i was a newbie when i commented that, i'm sorry if it offended anyone in any way, this comment was inappropriate and i apologize on behalf of my younger self.

  • @ikalman6664
    @ikalman6664 Год назад +16

    This version blows the other out of the park, the chord progression mixed with the vocals fucking kills me. God please let them redo this

  • @amandaf7249
    @amandaf7249 Год назад +3

    Sounds kinda like angels and emily

  • @justynamcr
    @justynamcr 3 месяца назад +1

    This song should be recorded, it must be recorded! this is the most beautiful version of a heartbreaking song ever created ❤

  • @harpercollins2003
    @harpercollins2003 2 года назад +4

    they saved my life time and time again

  • @TAB00
    @TAB00 3 года назад +14

    this version of the song sounds like it could make it into the bullets album

  • @samd7023
    @samd7023 Год назад +2

    Keep coming back to this (almost daily for years) Glad they both exist but this version is so much better.

  • @ashbye1863
    @ashbye1863 3 года назад +4

    I just wish they released the original demo of the worlds ugly (a.k.a. This) on living with ghosts along with all the other original demos of songs

    • @gemin.r.j
      @gemin.r.j 2 года назад

      Living with ghosts are demos from the black parade, and they were recorded in 2005, this song is a demo from 2008

    • @ashbye1863
      @ashbye1863 2 года назад

      @@gemin.r.j Then they should have put it on convention weapons as its own different song! Because it sounds nothing like the one they officially released.

  • @winnmadsen2260
    @winnmadsen2260 14 дней назад

    This version was much better than the official studio version..

  • @aa.5110
    @aa.5110 4 года назад +3

    So painful, this version was so much better.

  • @lennykai1298
    @lennykai1298 3 месяца назад

    I think its "Are you thinking of him" because then he proceeds to say "I think you bot should go" and also he could be saying " But I think its just a fling" because then he proceeds to say "are you happy now that you got wat you came for?" I thin the song was originally about loving someone whos in a relationship but cheated with you and only wanted a fling, which is why i think they rewrote the lyrics as its not really their style. Ultimately, i think the song, and most people agree, suffered for it

  • @melynn_0355
    @melynn_0355 Месяц назад

    Legit wondering why this wasn't the official version it's a literal masterpiece

  • @_yuhkami
    @_yuhkami Месяц назад

    this is honestly alot more better than the conventional weapons one, id LOVE to see a produced version of this demo,,,

  • @okay7173
    @okay7173 4 года назад +4

    I feel so much pain. I miss them so much.

  • @itzEmilyxx3
    @itzEmilyxx3 Год назад +2

    This song means so much. ❤️ I wish they would have kept this version. It's truly beautiful.

  • @hotdoggitydig
    @hotdoggitydig 5 месяцев назад

    I like the raw sound but it just sounds like a gibberish rip off of a tbp song imo

  • @elizabread8796
    @elizabread8796 Год назад +1

    I’ve heard that he wrote this about Frank.

  • @ClaraSosaFaccioli_
    @ClaraSosaFaccioli_ 3 месяца назад

    I love this version even if it's noisy

  • @ClaraSosaFaccioli_
    @ClaraSosaFaccioli_ 3 месяца назад

    It's visceral

  • @the.jetset.life._
    @the.jetset.life._ 4 месяца назад

    i wanted to be there...

  • @MetalSR.
    @MetalSR. Год назад +1

    Holy Fuck, Gerard is amazing

  • @magdalenedyson1771
    @magdalenedyson1771 2 года назад +2

    this honestly shouldnt be as good as it is, but it is

  • @BenWitya
    @BenWitya Год назад +1

    cryin in the club listenin' to the world is ugly 2008 live demo

  • @vexorion6577
    @vexorion6577 3 года назад +1

    Gerard sounds like he took some of Billie Joe's voice and morphed it with his voice

  • @Xianpaul0523
    @Xianpaul0523 2 года назад +1

    The only thing I like about the newer version is the intro.

  • @lithiumpistol2897
    @lithiumpistol2897 5 лет назад +9

    1:38 you sure the lyrics accurate? the other video got lyrics in the comments it says are you thinking of him

    • @odetoanathema
      @odetoanathema  5 лет назад +4

      yeah, i’m pretty sure. when i made this video i listened to the song like 5 times very closely just to get my take on it all lol and even listening to it again right now i can very clearly hear the “g” in again. i mean yeah i could still be wrong but i personally do think it’s again 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @lithiumpistol2897
      @lithiumpistol2897 5 лет назад +1

      @@odetoanathema ok thanks for uploading

    • @thekingslayer4608
      @thekingslayer4608 4 года назад +8

      @@odetoanathema In my oponion he says "are you thinking of him" because than he says "but ı think you both should go"

    • @natalie_rose2861
      @natalie_rose2861 3 года назад +1

      ya he is saying are you thinking of him. it's super clear. I heard it the 1st time I listened to it. then I saw it in another video that confirmed it. rest are 100% accurate though. & it does say 99% accurate @ the start. It makes sense to "are you thinking of me, are you thinking of him, I think you both should go"

  • @hydethepenguin
    @hydethepenguin Год назад +1

    AAAAAGH TVIS VERSION

  • @hydethepenguin
    @hydethepenguin Год назад +1

    oh god

  • @allthelovex3340
    @allthelovex3340 5 лет назад +2

    ♥️

  • @chasingthebaby
    @chasingthebaby 2 года назад +3

    Who hurt you, Gee? 🥺

    • @carla3693
      @carla3693 2 года назад +1

      probably linz he wrote this during BP tour after they got married in project rev on 2007 this was written 2008

    • @stinkarely
      @stinkarely Год назад +1

      @@carla3693that’s what I think too. She had an off tour fiancée at the time she married Gerard

    • @lauraslade5308
      @lauraslade5308 Год назад

      @@stinkarely she had a WHAT now?

    • @carla3693
      @carla3693 7 месяцев назад

      Yeah she had a boyfriend Danny who was her fiance until she decided to pick Gerard he found out they married on social media. So basically she was with them both at the same time

    • @chasingthebaby
      @chasingthebaby 7 месяцев назад

      @@carla3693 wait, what?! That was wild!

  • @lithiumpistol2897
    @lithiumpistol2897 5 лет назад +1

    ive been searching for this thank you!!!!!!

  • @takemetoyoujayb22
    @takemetoyoujayb22 7 месяцев назад

    Wow, finally I've found it the full version with the lyrics, thank u so much. I like the studio version but listening to this version is so heart wrenching, it's like that I can feel the hurt n the pain so much

  • @ElvisHablich
    @ElvisHablich 5 месяцев назад

    2008 em Curitiba, foi phoda 😢

  • @carla3693
    @carla3693 2 года назад

    lyrics are are you thinking of him, thats why late is i think you both should go

  • @Fer-xy2xl
    @Fer-xy2xl 3 года назад +1

    Hola Sofi
    Te amo muchísimo conejitaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    Eres el amor de mi vida, gracias por estar conmigo, siempre estaré a tu lado, amándote y apoyándote, gracias por darme tanto amor, te prometo que yo te amo y amaré como nunca nadie te amó. ❤️❤️😽

  • @hydethepenguin
    @hydethepenguin Год назад +1

    its one of those nights

  • @deemamubarak1466
    @deemamubarak1466 8 месяцев назад

    Thank you so much for this

  • @halutalsaid9767
    @halutalsaid9767 3 года назад

    Randomly sang this song
    Remember use to have it on my iPod nano

  • @ssh8960
    @ssh8960 Год назад

    OH NO I’M CRYING

  • @carla3693
    @carla3693 2 года назад

    I like this one better

  • @phauzsiena3523
    @phauzsiena3523 3 года назад

    Beautiful

  • @AHMEDALI-zz4jj
    @AHMEDALI-zz4jj 2 года назад

    ❤❤

  • @donnahuscroft1
    @donnahuscroft1 4 года назад +1

    lyrics all wrong but it's beautiful

  • @bell5372
    @bell5372 3 года назад

    Uhm I was born 2008🥺

  • @soloyolorolo
    @soloyolorolo Год назад +1

    Joe le Uber

  • @TengkuAhmadFikri
    @TengkuAhmadFikri Год назад

    2013

  • @livmustdie
    @livmustdie 2 года назад +1

    I like this version so much better