I've gotten a very similar effect by dying the wood with a medium brown leather dye,, sanding it back, then applying bright yellow dye, with a touch of saddle tan to get a bit of aged look. I finished it with 5 coats of antique furniture oil. You'd swear this guitar was 50 years old.
Hey Pat! I’ve used a few brands using aerosol paint as well ( Oxford and also Stew Mac’s ) and they both worked brilliantly as well. A while back I did a one piece Strat body ( Swamp Ash ), and the TV Yellow really worked so well on that wood. Swamp Ash has some of the most noticeable grain patterns I’ve seen too. ( I guess Oak as well however no one wants a 25 pound guitar either lol ). Anyhow, the grain popped so much I didn’t even need to use a grain fill after the TV Yellow, I just went straight to clear gloss. Now I realize you’re doing a Gibson mock up here so your wood is the obvious choice, that Sapele wood looks identical to Mahogany like a Gibson should be 🤙 Loving this build man, can’t wait to see it once it’s all glossed up and that Ebony board along with the black headstock will certainly be an eye~popper! 😊 Best regards, Tommy~
Cheers Tommy, I would always use a spray gun given the choice but a good quality paint in good rattle can with a fan nozzle will give good results. They have improved a lot over the years.
@@Adventuresfromtheshedofdreamsno doubt. I have a huge air compressor here but I don’t have a proper place to set up a proper booth / area so I’m using these often. Each time I pray a bird doesn’t fly by and either shit on the guitar or my head 🤣
Letting the can sit in hot water will really help with the application process, I saw it on a driftwood/stewmac collaboration project. It makes it so much easier to mix and apply. Looking great!
It seems to me you’ve got the shade of yellow I was expecting, the yellow in the shot of Johnny Thunders’ guitar feels unnaturally bright. I want one 😍
Yes, I think going from screen to camera to screen make the JT guitar look more yellow, I'm happy with the outcome though, might still put a toner coat of lacquer over it, dunno, we'll see...
I'm surprised about the fact that you touch the guitar with bare hands , before & even while spraying it ! But looking awesome already , that yellow piece of Rock'n Roll history !
Not only good to see the progression (excellent) but really like the reasoning and thoughts why you do what you do ... in the order that you do. Great Job
Excellent! I very appreciate your work and your willing to explain and show us the process of your guitar build. Please could you tell me how many cans have you used for two coats of TV yellow color and for clear coat? Thank you very much!
Спасибо за видео, покраска для меня, пока, самый сложный этап. Вы не думали закрепить на потолке блок с тросом и барабан на стене, и за пару оборотов ручки можно будет опустить или поднять инструмент для удобства покраски?
What is that gel stuff you used for grain filler? Is it because you can't get proper grain filler in England due to environmental over protectiveness? It looked as if it did not fill very well but the final product looks quite good. I am actually starting research to do a repair of this type of finish on a record player console from 1956. I have to somehow blend where the finish has chipped with new basecoat, filler and lacquer. Just as a side note, I am no pro on this finish but an observation because I had to gently remove a refinish which was put on top of the original finish, it seems the original finish is very much a creamy lighter shade, so I think that was the first stage, followed by grain fill and then clear lacquer which has yellowed quite a bit. The final result is close to your yellow, but I think it was originally intended to be a creamier color. In the U.S. there was quite a bit of furniture and TV's/Record Player/Radio Consoles finished in this way in the 50's. I will spray amber lacquer which will help me blend in the original finish with my repair. Anyway, just observations and my limited value input. I guess I felt that I should mention that as I stripped the brown paint and was left with what was remaining of an original finish, I could tell that where the lacquer was removed the color was lighter and I believe that the yellow hue may be due to lacquer yellowing over time.
It's aquacoat, a water based grain filler. We can get oil based grain filler still however I really like the Aquacoat. I would normally use multiple coats to get the grain fully filled however with the coloured grain filler I didn't want to effect the yellow so left it quite thin. The guitar has been finished for several months now and still looks great. Good luck with your project.
Hello! If the plan had been a dual pickup model, would you set the neck and then rout the pickup hole; or do at least some routing before setting the neck? Cheers from Alabama!
looking fantastic my friend.. question.. not sure of the temperature in the shed in August.. but did you need to soak those nitro cans in hot water for 15 minutes before using them?.. i hear it prevents clumping..
It's normal to grain fill before paint, in this instance it was done afterwards to give the grain effect I was after. I actually really like the way it has come out.
@@Adventuresfromtheshedofdreams I'm a foreigner and looking at my question now it looks... abrupt to me, I'm sorry. Thank you for the detailed answer anyway. What is the idea behind how many coats one wants to apply? I'm going to finish a guitar body with spray cans at some point in the future and want to avoid making a thick finish factory guitars are notorious for.
Awesome looking so far!!! Congrats ! I'm just not a huge fan of the tuner tips. They are too green. I much more prefer having the white plastic tips, like the vintage ones, but that's a matter of taste. Otherwise, it's looking very good, and i'm very impressed by the tv finish!
All this work and you used rattle cans for the finish? Disappointing. Using a proper spray rig with a good spray gun and an air compressor gives you access to all the premium paint systems in existence. And it doesn't cost that much. Particularly when rattle cans of nitro are so horribly expensive and you get so little actual usable paint out of them due to the thinners and the wasted overspray.
This is the first time with rattle cans on this channel. I usually use a gun but couldn't get my hands on the colour paint I needed. I thought it would be good for those that haven't got access to a spraying set up to see it can be done with a rattle can. Expensive and harder to achieve but possible :)
Many say, "That's what I'm talkin' about." Well, that's what I'M talkin' about! Very nice work!
Thanks buddy, I'm pleased with how this is going.
This video gives the spray-gun-less man that I am joy and hope for finishing guitars :) Great video, lovely looking Junior
I don't use cans often simply because I have the means to do it with a gun but if you take your time you can get a good finish with them.
@@Adventuresfromtheshedofdreams Great, I’m going to try them on my next project (coming in 2030, at this rate)
I've gotten a very similar effect by dying the wood with a medium brown leather dye,, sanding it back, then applying bright yellow dye, with a touch of saddle tan to get a bit of aged look. I finished it with 5 coats of antique furniture oil. You'd swear this guitar was 50 years old.
I can see that givinga nice result, there are a million ways to get the finish you want :)
Hey Pat!
I’ve used a few brands using aerosol paint as well ( Oxford and also Stew Mac’s ) and they both worked brilliantly as well. A while back I did a one piece Strat body ( Swamp Ash ), and the TV Yellow really worked so well on that wood. Swamp Ash has some of the most noticeable grain patterns I’ve seen too. ( I guess Oak as well however no one wants a 25 pound guitar either lol ). Anyhow, the grain popped so much I didn’t even need to use a grain fill after the TV Yellow, I just went straight to clear gloss.
Now I realize you’re doing a Gibson mock up here so your wood is the obvious choice, that Sapele wood looks identical to Mahogany like a Gibson should be 🤙
Loving this build man, can’t wait to see it once it’s all glossed up and that Ebony board along with the black headstock will certainly be an eye~popper! 😊
Best regards,
Tommy~
Cheers Tommy, I would always use a spray gun given the choice but a good quality paint in good rattle can with a fan nozzle will give good results. They have improved a lot over the years.
@@Adventuresfromtheshedofdreamsno doubt.
I have a huge air compressor here but I don’t have a proper place to set up a proper booth / area so I’m using these often.
Each time I pray a bird doesn’t fly by and either shit on the guitar or my head 🤣
It's looking great. The tinted filler really makes it pop.
Cheers mate, it really has come out nice (IMO)
Satisfying.
cheers :)
Looks really great Patrick! Gonna be a sweetie.
Cheers Dane, I'm pleased with the colour.
Letting the can sit in hot water will really help with the application process, I saw it on a driftwood/stewmac collaboration project. It makes it so much easier to mix and apply. Looking great!
Yep, however it has been quite warm here for a few days, not before time I might add!!
Looking excellent. Nearly there…!
Cheerss bud, so close!
You made that look much easier than is suspect it actually is.
Haha, it was pretty straight forward. Just need to keep the can at a good distance and keep it moving or it will run in a second!!
It seems to me you’ve got the shade of yellow I was expecting, the yellow in the shot of Johnny Thunders’ guitar feels unnaturally bright. I want one 😍
Yes, I think going from screen to camera to screen make the JT guitar look more yellow, I'm happy with the outcome though, might still put a toner coat of lacquer over it, dunno, we'll see...
I'm surprised about the fact that you touch the guitar with bare hands , before & even while spraying it ! But looking awesome already , that yellow piece of Rock'n Roll history !
Cheers, with nitro paint/lacquer the coats melt into each other as you lay them down. Any slight oil/sweat contamination won't cause a problem.
Looks fantastic!
Cheers :)
Excellent!
Cheers :)
I recommend using a garden variety table fork for mixing the goop and other thicker viscosity semi-liquids. The guitar is looking very fine!
Cheers, that is a great idea :)
Looking good!!!
Thank you :)
That finish has come out brilliant Pat. Love it.
Thanks buddy :)
Not only good to see the progression (excellent) but really like the reasoning and thoughts why you do what you do ... in the order that you do. Great Job
Thanks, I'm sure I'm trying to convince myself sometimes :)
👌
cheers
Excellent! I very appreciate your work and your willing to explain and show us the process of your guitar build. Please could you tell me how many cans have you used for two coats of TV yellow color and for clear coat?
Thank you very much!
Спасибо за видео, покраска для меня, пока, самый сложный этап. Вы не думали закрепить на потолке блок с тросом и барабан на стене, и за пару оборотов ручки можно будет опустить или поднять инструмент для удобства покраски?
What is that gel stuff you used for grain filler? Is it because you can't get proper grain filler in England due to environmental over protectiveness? It looked as if it did not fill very well but the final product looks quite good. I am actually starting research to do a repair of this type of finish on a record player console from 1956. I have to somehow blend where the finish has chipped with new basecoat, filler and lacquer. Just as a side note, I am no pro on this finish but an observation because I had to gently remove a refinish which was put on top of the original finish, it seems the original finish is very much a creamy lighter shade, so I think that was the first stage, followed by grain fill and then clear lacquer which has yellowed quite a bit. The final result is close to your yellow, but I think it was originally intended to be a creamier color. In the U.S. there was quite a bit of furniture and TV's/Record Player/Radio Consoles finished in this way in the 50's. I will spray amber lacquer which will help me blend in the original finish with my repair. Anyway, just observations and my limited value input. I guess I felt that I should mention that as I stripped the brown paint and was left with what was remaining of an original finish, I could tell that where the lacquer was removed the color was lighter and I believe that the yellow hue may be due to lacquer yellowing over time.
It's aquacoat, a water based grain filler. We can get oil based grain filler still however I really like the Aquacoat. I would normally use multiple coats to get the grain fully filled however with the coloured grain filler I didn't want to effect the yellow so left it quite thin. The guitar has been finished for several months now and still looks great. Good luck with your project.
Hello! If the plan had been a dual pickup model, would you set the neck and then rout the pickup hole; or do at least some routing before setting the neck? Cheers from Alabama!
If I was going for a two pickup build I would have routed before setting the neck, you could probably do it after but it wouldn't be as easy.
Looking awesome!
Cheers :)
Great series. Thanks. Please tell me how many coats of clear you put on
I didn't put too much on this one, probably four coats of clear.
Nice work Pat. Is this build for anyone in particular? I'm sure they'd be happy with how it's progressing 😊
Thanks, this one is for my little collection :)
looking fantastic my friend.. question.. not sure of the temperature in the shed in August.. but did you need to soak those nitro cans in hot water for 15 minutes before using them?.. i hear it prevents clumping..
As it happens if it was quite hot for a few days while I was spraying, the paint was plenty warm :)
What would be the difference between grain-filling before painting, vs after painting? I'm completely new to all this. Thanks.
It's normal to grain fill before paint, in this instance it was done afterwards to give the grain effect I was after. I actually really like the way it has come out.
How many layers of clean coat do you put and what is the time between coats? Asking as a complete noob
I did six in the end over the course of two days, I gave it an hour or so between coats and left it overnight before the last three coats.
@@Adventuresfromtheshedofdreams I'm a foreigner and looking at my question now it looks... abrupt to me, I'm sorry. Thank you for the detailed answer anyway. What is the idea behind how many coats one wants to apply? I'm going to finish a guitar body with spray cans at some point in the future and want to avoid making a thick finish factory guitars are notorious for.
Awesome looking so far!!! Congrats !
I'm just not a huge fan of the tuner tips. They are too green. I much more prefer having the white plastic tips, like the vintage ones, but that's a matter of taste.
Otherwise, it's looking very good, and i'm very impressed by the tv finish!
Yeah, I'm not too sure about those tuners either. I'll see how they look and if I hate them it's not a big deal to change them.
So how many coats of clear are you going to spray?
I did about six in the end, it's a thin finish but I like how it looks.
Yeah. I'm first. hee hee
Good job buddy :)
Thanks. Making silly comments is a tough job, but I'm happy to be of service. 😁@@Adventuresfromtheshedofdreams
All this work and you used rattle cans for the finish? Disappointing. Using a proper spray rig with a good spray gun and an air compressor gives you access to all the premium paint systems in existence. And it doesn't cost that much. Particularly when rattle cans of nitro are so horribly expensive and you get so little actual usable paint out of them due to the thinners and the wasted overspray.
This is the first time with rattle cans on this channel. I usually use a gun but couldn't get my hands on the colour paint I needed. I thought it would be good for those that haven't got access to a spraying set up to see it can be done with a rattle can. Expensive and harder to achieve but possible :)