Led Zeppelin - Heartbreaker (Isolated Drum Track)
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- ***THIS IS THE REAL DRUM TRACK. KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO YOURSELF UNLESS YOU HAVE REAL PROOF.****
This is the raw track used for this song. The effects are not there like on the recording but it's the real deal.
Anyone who denies this is Bonham doesn't know a lot about Bonham. The only thing that could make it more obvious is if we had film footage of the session. It's hardly worth debating.
Agreed
I'm quite ignorant on the subject I've been crazy about led Zeppelin for about a year now and I've only been interested in instruments for about the same amount of time Im learning piano and guitar I'm curious how you know this is Bonham I don't have an opinion on the subject I only heard about the debate just now I came for the drums but I typically check comment sections just for the heck of it I'm just curious is all Im not going to critique your response
@@rickyjiggens2180 it’s Bonham, from the way the drums are miked, also Bonham had a distinctive style of delaying the 1st beat in the bar sometimes and you can hear it. Also the swing and feel is him, the way it is executed with the ghost notes being slightly out of line, not to the point where it is full swung but just enough. Also the bass drum needs no explaining.
I suggest you subscribe to Bonzoleum and Bonhamology on RUclips. Terry from the Bonzoleum channel frequently does lives streams I think every Thursday and if you tune in he happily answers questions. He’s covered this recording before and he says with out a doubt it’s Bonham. He’s also a really cool and entertaining guy, he has many videos that can help drummers like you and me.
I've been studying Bonham for 30 years and can certify this as him. I've heard many who can play Bonham well, like Dan Zalac, Michael Desrosiers, etc. but none have all the pieces in place to create a perfect copy of the original. If this is not Bonham, then the drummer should come forth and become an instant star.
Yes it is him
It's not Bonham.
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this track can be found Led Zepellin STUDIO MAGIK - SESSIONS - 1968-1980. It IS him.
Yes-this is as the folks above said, without a doubt, the actual Bonham-played track.
There are subtle doubles with the snare and bass I didn't know existed until I heard the isolated track. Bonzo was truly a musical genius!
He was a groovy drummer, thats why I like Led Zeppelin. Heavy rock with a kick ass groove running through a lot of their tracks. Great mix. This track even sounds a bit hippity hop. A pioneer.
This is John Bonham. clean your ears
Yes
Absolutely.
Listen to the Heartbreaker Rough Mix then come back and try again
This is absolutely him. GREAT
@@loeman67 stop
The kick drum triplets are there, very subtle on Led Zeppelin II recording. Got to really listen with headphones. They are 32nd notes in the notation the 3 flags would designate that. The triplet snare coast notes in between the 5 fluffed crashes before the chorus twice in beginning and twice at end are almost silent and the notation transcriber missed that and it is hard to hear as well. Its John Bonham. Nobody has played like that from what I heard. Super Smooth especially the fluffed crashes and kick control the builds and soft parts are luscious as Terry would say. Bonzo 100%
I did not notice before in the song but i heard that crazy bass drum kick. Its real noticable in the first song side one. GTBT
I love how funky this is. Bonzo really makes this song groove.
Definitely Bonham - if anything, the kick drum work gives it away.
It's Bonzo... My guess it's just the bass drum mic, with all the glorious bleed from the rest of the kit. Sometimes the engineer will put the kick mic on the beater side of the drum, which will pick up the bottom of the snare.Great low end from his drum!
T Faulconer
Yeah that was part of the genius of Jimmy Page the bands guitarist and producer.
Most people don't know that.
T Faulconer 16th notes on the bass
@@Braglemaster123 triplets*
This is fantastic! You can hear all those wonderful nuances & ghost notes only drummers hear. I love the ghost notes on the cymbal accents at the end of the verses & right at the end. Thank you :)
I've been so focused in the bass drum that I've never noticed the ghost notes on this track
What Bonham played and DIDN'T play is what made his so great. He was sparing, and knew when to get on top. He remains the All-Around drummer of rock, in my opinion. He had so many unique qualities in one drummer
dang there so many little things bonham does that you don't notice until you listen to his isolated tracks. His parts just blended in that well.
WOW! there are bass drum patterns I never knew existed until now! What a revelation. Thanks for sharing.
How can you not love this drumming man. Drum god.
this is the one and only Bonzo. Take it from a drummer who has been playing almost 40 years. Style, tuning, technique, it's all there and it's all Bonzo!!!!
I checked the encoding BPM and the audio track on a PSGN decoder, this is LEGIT Boham drumming, nice work on isolating the drums!
The best rock drummer of all time!☺
Everything comin'from Mr.Bonham is automatically THUMBS UP!
I forgot to add, bad ass triplets. :)
I’ve read that sound engineers said Bonzo hit the drums so hard, they couldn’t use traditional drum mics on his set. They would shake or fly off by the third beat. And when one did manage to stay on, his sound was so loud, you’d have to place the mic a foot or more away from the drum!! Bonzo was a BEAST!!
That's partially why engineers only used a pair of overheads and kick mic on most sessions.
This is definitely Bonzo playing here! Most drummers don't realize that an echo effect was added to the hi-hat on the final mix.
Nah, that's ghost notes on the snare
Those aren't hats - you're hearing the ghost notes on his snare. That's a huge part of his genius.
dude what no way he could just play ghost notes like a master...know what you're talking about and fact check before you start talking out your ass
Anyone else hear "Jawohl!" at the very end? 3:50
Jawohl
Jawohl
It's more like a "ya voy" in Spanish, that means "I'm coming".
@@edy680 ...and that's what she said
The best goddamn drummer That Ever Walked the face of this fucking Earth
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE KING OF GROOVE AND THE GREATEST DRUMMER OF ALL TIME!
That is the God given right foot of John Henry Bonham along with the tension created by the groove, after effects are put on the kit, that groove is like a solid 8 lane highway... You can hear the youth in that playing as well.... I believe you are incorrect ...
Bonzo was THE MAN! I miss this dude! I miss Led Zeppelin. It was never the same without him. It was good, but nothing like when Bonzo was with them.
Listen to the album version - the kicks are all there. People who say they're not just can't hear them, they are in the mix. This is legit.
Man, I could listen to his bass drum all day!
He's so far behind the beat, and it's so perfect. His foot singles at the end of the solo are as fast as I've heard single bass with accuracy, and power. I'll enjoy the iso drum track as much as the tune. Too bad they don't have all the tracks iso'd
This is a real take from John Bonham. However, it's not the one that made the final album, I believe. It's from the album "The making of Led Zeppelin II". The bass track of this song is in there too.
I completely agree.
So you’re saying there’s a better version than this one ! Wow this one is awesome !
I like to play this loud and groove on my Fender Jazz along with it
What the hell are you talking about? That sound is definitely Bonham. The cymbal sound matches the cymbal sound in WLL. Just because you don't hear the squeak doesn't mean it's not Bonham. The snare sounds just like Bonham, what are you talking about? That's one pedal for sure. There is an unevenness to it that a double pedal can't achieve. The sound is different because the sound of the drums was changed in post-production. You are completely fucking wrong.
That is very true. Although there is actually film rumored to exist from the LZII mixing sessions.
This sounds like it came from the LZII companion that Jimmy released in 2014 - it's a rough mix that accounts for all the differences we don't hear in the original studio version.
Bonzo Breaker. Very nicely done. I dig hearing this kind of stuff. More please~
Rob/Boston
boston thunderbeats !
Boy am I glad this is in the Autos & Vehicles category
I play that song with the triplets on the kick one foot and have had guitar players tell me there’s no triplets in the song THANKS FOR THE VID
@worldwidekillerz No... the complete multitracks only surfaced for WLL, What is and What Should Never Be, Heartbreaker, and Ramble On.
wow didn't know Bonham was doing little triplet rolls on the kick during the riff. Wild.
His coordination and consistency was unbelievable. Sounds like John Bonham to me.
thx for upload. I'd almost venture to say that this is the kick drum mic only.
Yeah man I get that part.. I keep getting that response from other videos I've posted on too... but the problem is that this is the year 2013 now and "isolated drum tracks" do not have 'bleed'.
Nevertheless, apparently I was a bit over the top with my original comment. It seems I've calmed over the past three months, which is good.
Yeah I'd say this is definitely a kick drum mic or a lower room microphone from the mix.
They weren't really doing 'raw' tracks back then as everything was limited to track count and tones were baked into the tape due to the chain it was running through.
You got the tones at the time of tracking and then adjusted levels after playback.
Pure gold! Thanks for posting.
because of bleed. every drum has a mic on it and they are all picking-up the track in Bonham's headphones, that's probably at least 6 mics.
I would say this is Bonham playing, but obviously it's not the full drum track, it sounds like this was just the bass drum mic. If you added in the room mics and over heads, that would make all the difference. As for the hi-hat pattern, the 16th's you hear on the album are a delay effect, there's no way Bonham would have actually played it like that. Same thing with When The Levee Breaks, there are a lot of extra "notes" that you can hear on the recording which are there due to the effects used on the track. It can be difficult to tell sometimes which notes were actually played and which ones are an echo / delay!
Gotta love that maple Bonham kit. Perfection. Like Buddy rich set up just larger drums.. (And a huge Gong and 2 huge "Tympany"(?!) drums of course..;)
This guy was an absolute monster.
if it was bleed audio from the song youd definately hear plants vocals!
that single kick drum is absolutely mental lol
i like hearing the isolated tracks because you catch some subtleties that are missed when the song itself is playing
you can hear the bleed of the guitar track very faint in the room mic for sure wear headphones its real
Categorically, this is Bonham. All the little nuances in the drumbeat that I would associate with this song is being played out. Either that or someone has studied this to death...
"but the problem is that this is the year 2013 now and "isolated drum tracks" do not have 'bleed'
- yes, but you do realise this wasn't recorded in 2013 right? and that's what matters.
Just a great, feel player like no other!!!! God bless him. :)
that right foot and easy crash, it think it's him
By the way, this is obviously Bonham. No one can duplicate his "feel," it is pretty self-evident.
Could someone get the drum track for Kashmir? I'd love to hear the drum effect on its own.
That’s him
Is this just the bass drum mic?
Another way to prove the people that think this Isn’t Bonham is if you go and listen to John Paul Jones’s isolated base track, you hear the same distorted voice in the end or whatever it is.
Very Cool! More going on than I thought!!
Always is with Bonzo. In 'Good Times, Bad Times', he never repeats a measure.
0:14 How is that even humanly possible?
Heel to toe
Search George Kollias. 😆
He's a machine.
Isolated bass drum mic. I get it now.
Listen to the Bass (Kick) drum......you only need two bass drums a) for show Or b) if your right foot isn't fast enough.....
He changes his bass pedal beats with Jimmy’s guitar changes.while snare stays in same pattern. Most drummers would change the snare patters.
This is called genius. That’s why they say Bonham plays for Jimmy. This is studio proof.
He nailed it.
Damn Bonham is a drum God !
Those kick triplets damn
Definitely Bonzo!
Man, this was recorded in 1969. Not 2013. It's not going to be exactly isolated drums. You don't hear the bleed in the original, right?
Great snare sound
If anyone's looking for the Ramble On tracks, I put them on my account. I might put the Whole Lotta Love tracks on there too.
Utter fucking genius of a man.
Those double-kicks, though. O_o
Awesome..RIP Bonzo
É a bateria isolada da gravação original, depois o Jimmy Page acrescentou o solo em outro estúdio.
this IS bonzo,its from a bootleg called studio magik
i can't prove it, but this is that which does not suck.
We may never know where this came from. I heard an alternate Stairway track yesterday that is NOT Sunset. Page was relieved of a hell of a lot of tape over an 18 month period, by his daughter's nanny and friends. I figure that's where all this stuff is coming from.
No..The recorded LIVE - even in an isolated room, there's always leakage
It's John Bonham. Because I'm sure it's John Bonham. Anyway I don't care about if it's John Bonham or Who Bonham. This is satisfying me
Now I can hear what he did with the bass drum
It is. ;) Sounds pretty good, eh?
I've never thought of them as a rock band. They've always seemed more funky and jazzy to me. English wabisabi
they were the vanguard of heavy metal. many styles were incorporated into their songs, but they were best known as the leading heavy metal band in a time that defined heavy metal emergence. the group had studio chops for most types of music.
only bonham could drag two cymbal hits so far out of time and still make you keep his beat.
is that guitar from the bleedthrough of the headphones?
@worldwidekillerz ....? It's on bootleg...
For sure Bonham
.....I can guess this is authentic, but how did this amazing recording get out...how did this get recorded, why, when??? I would love to know more.
The people who deny these tracks remind me of the old gag of a guy seeing the actual Satan at a Halloween and saying "terrible costume". It's funny how skepticism can produce flat out ignorance a lot of the time.
Most of the early recordings only used 3 mikes for the drum kit !
Yeah...and he was listening LIVE through headphones.
A lot of the doubt probs comes from no ambience on the snare and no tape echo on the hi-hat.
When I first listened to this track in low volume, I didn't hear "Heartbreaker"... I just heard the drums and I was about to jam on the beat. I put headphones in with the audio up, and suddenly heard Paige playing his part in the background... it effectively ruined any original ideas I may have had while approaching this beat.
..to do this kind of stuff v=2EKfOvmrzHM
It's difficult to find anything isolated that isn't a beat loop...
Reason it sounds odd is because you're not hearing the overhead Mics
Witches Brew!!!
Okay
Were those triplets always there?
I can't hear double bass drum hits on the recording. But then again the mix is not clear for the bass drum..
+Joe Nocella If you listen hard enough, they are there.
a lot of people are great at drumss...but no one can play like Bonzo!!